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I had an enlightening chat with Blockbuster (NYSE: BBI  ) CEO Jim Keyes yesterday afternoon.

We discussed what I perceived as threats to the DVD rental giant. With marksman's precision, he shot them down.

Getting to the point, the MediaPoint
I first asked him about the MediaPoint set-top digital delivery solution that his company rolled out last month. It was actually my sharp critique of the box -- where I called it "redundant, unnecessary, and ultimately inferior" -- that triggered the phone call.

I was expecting a blunt defense of the device. Instead, Keyes threw me a curve.

"We think there's like 100 people in the world that are really serious consumers of this," he joked, before taking a more serious turn. In his opinion, there are "legitimate limitations" of digital delivery at the quality level that consumers expect. He estimates that roughly 10% of the homes are equipped with the means and broadband speeds to make it viable, and he doesn't see that changing for at least another five years.

Having some skin in the digital game is important -- whether it is the MediaPoint box or the NCR (NYSE: NCR  ) machines that load Archos digital media players with flicks, which Keyes demo-ed during this year's annual shareholder meeting -- but it's still a niche market.

"Should we put shareholder money at risk in a market that's at best five years away from being commercial," he rhetorically asked. "I don't think so."

The evolution of celluloid
Blu-ray has extended -- and enhanced -- the life of the optical disc as a movie-serving platform. As an early adopter, I begrudgingly settle for a digital download in a pinch, but I prefer the quality, flexibility, and special features that come with a DVD or Blu-ray rental.

Keyes doesn't know if countrywide bandwidth will be there to digitally deliver quality movie experiences by the time Blu-ray discs run their course. He sees an opportunity to fill the gap, providing in-store servers loaded with high-quality releases that can be transferred to flash memory cards in 30 seconds. In the end, it's all about getting folks into his stores or even to potential Blockbuster kiosks at train stations and airports to serve up speedy celluloid.

He's the only one who sees it that way, and he relishes being a contrarian.

"Let everybody fight it out, kill each other, and spend lots of money on set-top boxes tethered to big screen TVs," he says. He prefers a portable solution as the heir apparent to the DVD, and one that hopefully entails a trip out to your local Blockbuster store.

More in store
Keyes' main goal is for Blockbuster to succeed as a media retailer. When I asked him if he perceives his biggest competitive threat to be Netflix (Nasdaq: NFLX  ) or RedBox -- the DVD rental kiosks bankrolled by McDonald's (NYSE: MCD  ) and Coinstar (Nasdaq: CSTR  ) that are popping up all over the country -- he dismissed them both.

"Neither RedBox nor Netflix are even on the radar screen in terms of competition," he said. "It's more Wal-Mart (NYSE: WMT  ) and Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL  ) ."

It wasn't the only time during our chat that Keyes leaned on Apple as an aspiration. When I asked him where he sees the Blockbuster concept in five years -- if it will be more in the mold of 7-Eleven or Circuit City -- he pointed to Apple.

He's certainly not out to "out-Apple Apple" but it's a tech-driven vibe with plenty of hard-media goods and players that fit right into his vision of where Blockbuster stores -- Blockbuster Media, not Blockbuster Video -- are heading. He's also fond of France's Fnac and Japan's Tsutaya as media-based concepts worth paying attention to.

Ultimately, Keyes wants Blockbuster to be nimble enough to ride the trends of media consumption. This finds him placing many small bets in the near term, but he thinks reports of the death of the optical disc are greatly exaggerated.

"DVDs are a melting glacier," he said. "Yes, it's melting, but it's a slow melt."

Maybe Keyes is in the same groove, confident that by the time the DVD itself does erode away into the sea, Blockbuster will be paddling its way on a lifeboat to something bigger and better.

Come back on Friday, when I'll discuss Keyes' plans to be the master of all media.

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  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 4:29 PM, zagrebzagreb wrote:

    Funny stuff... Here in Denver, one of the most profitable and busy Blockbuster stores in the entire region - during the heyday that is - just closed its doors. And (this is important) NOT due to nearby competition.

    My humble opinion is that if Blockbuster wants its grove back, it needs to completely re-visit its pricing strategy and look for other in-store revenue streams. $4 plus to rent a flick is just too much, especially when you can't even count on a decent selection.

    When a guy wants to watch Under Seige 2 for no aparrent reason, it needs to be there... taste be damned!

  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 5:15 PM, seethruU wrote:

    Rick...hats off to you for finally talking to Keyes in person..you should check out the new store designs if you can...I'll keep reading your stuff as I do the filthy critic...which you should check out...Stephen King's favorite site!

  • Report this Comment On December 11, 2008, at 3:25 AM, dividendgrowth wrote:

    Blockbuster is going out of business.

    With a crushing debt load, with an obsolete business model, in this kind of economic environment?

    No way, no how!

  • Report this Comment On December 11, 2008, at 9:28 AM, JudasTouch wrote:

    Keyes may have garnered a lot of respect for his work at 7-Eleven, but the following quote tells me he is either dishonest or deluded: "Neither RedBox nor Netflix are even on the radar screen in terms of competition."

    I would not invest in a company whose CEO spoke so disingenuously about a core issue facing his firm.

    I have other issues with his vision. For instance, the B&M model obviously has legs for any number of businesses, I just don't think delivering movies to the home is one of them. The fact that he thinks he can make that workable is admirable. I appreciate the gumption. But frankly, once I read the line about Netflix and Redbox, everything else is viewed through the lens of self-delusion.

  • Report this Comment On December 11, 2008, at 10:30 AM, jhaw wrote:

    I agree with most of the other comments. DVD's may be a slowly melting glacier, but in-store DVD rental is melting a whole lot faster than DVD rentals as a whole. To dismiss Neflix as serious competition is delusional. And what new market will spring up to replace DVD rentals as the primary means of delivering digital movies? According to Keyes it isn't direct delivery over broadband, but in-store digital downloads. Are there really people out there that want to go to a Blockbuster store to purchase digital video to download to their iPhone? Not me. I use iTunes almost every day, but I haven't been in a Blockbuster store in over a year. I guess Keyes is right about one thing: Apple is a serious threat to his business plans.

  • Report this Comment On December 26, 2008, at 8:35 AM, ArizonaEd wrote:

    Regarding in-store digital downloads to flash memory: Blockbuster has to address the issue of piracy (copying). No problem?

  • Report this Comment On March 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, MoneyRube wrote:

    I have BlockBuster's solution...Find an unserved/underserved market and tap it.

    Jim Keyes should take 5 minutes out of his undoubtedly busy day and read this forum.

    http://community.netflix.com/forum/topics/1993323:Topic:5003

    Pages of people discussing their love for the video game console. the Nintendo Wii.

    They are also expressing their desire for broadband vidoe on demand facilitated by their beloved Wii.

    They're shocked that NetFlix doesn't yet support the Wii and may not.

    "Netflix founder Reed Hastings is a member of Microsoft's board, so you take a wild guess which console will be the first (and probably only) to get support".

    If this quote from the page at the above link is accurate,then this is BlockBuster's opening to handing NetFlix it's azz in this market.

    The Wii is outselling the XBox by a substantial margin all over the globe....You do the math.

    Mr. Keyes......Support broadband video on demand on the Wii and in 10 years people won't know what NetFlix was.

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