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Social Security, Ponzi Schemes, and a Little Optimism

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Texas governor and Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry isn't shy on Social Security.

"It is a Ponzi scheme to tell our kids that are 25 or 30 years old today, 'You're paying into a program that's going to be there,'" he said last week. "Anybody that's for the status quo with Social Security today is involved with a monstrous lie to our kids, and it's not right. You cannot keep the status quo in place and call it anything other than a Ponzi scheme."

Them's fightin' words. But are they accurate?

I'm the umpteenth person to pick apart Perry's Ponzi comments. Most so far have concluded either yes, he's absolutely right, or no, he's utterly wrong. I don't think it's that simple. There are elements of both hard truth and hyperbole to his statement.

Perry is completely right that, based on the status quo, Social Security can't pay all of its promised benefits. "A monstrous lie," in his words.

But this isn't a secret, and I don't know anyone who has argued otherwise. There's no reason to. The numbers are in the open for all to see: Social Security paid out more benefits than it took in from payroll taxes last year for the first time since 1983. It made up for the gap though interest on Treasury bonds held in the Social Security trust fund -- something it can continue doing through 2022. Then, trust fund assets will go into net liquidation, covering benefits through 2036. After that, payroll taxes will cover 75% of promised benefits through at least 2085.

Those are the numbers. But what is a Ponzi scheme? Lately, the term has become a synonym for anything in the financial world that you're unhappy with. But it does have a specific definition. First, existing investors are paid with money raised from new investors. Second, the number of new investors has to increase geometrically to pay old investors. Finally, it has to be a scheme to defraud that will fall apart when the curtain is raised.  

Social Security really only fits one of those -- one group receives benefits from cash raised by another group.

But that alone doesn't make it a Ponzi scheme. It's how all insurance companies work. When I pay my car-insurance premium, the money goes to pay for someone else's accident. Someday down the road I'll be in an accident, and the money to pay for my repairs will come from someone else's premium. Does this make GEICO a Ponzi scheme?

Of course not. But the reason some think Social Security is Ponzi-like while approving of GEICO is that GEICO isn't forecasting to hit a breaking point in 2036 where it can pay out only 75% of claims, as Social Security is. Instead of calling it a Ponzi scheme, calling Social Security a poorly managed insurance company run by terrible actuaries may be more accurate.

Private pensions may be a better comparison. The majority of private pensions work well and are sustainable. Others, as the histories of General Motors (NYSE: GM  ) , United Airlines (Nasdaq: UAUA  ) , and YRC Worldwide (Nasdaq: YRCW  ) have shown, do not and are not. But this doesn't mean they're Ponzi schemes, lies, or frauds. Some things just aren't managed as well as others.

The good news is that there are relatively easy fixes to get Social Security's head on straight. Perry notes that the program is doomed based on the status quo. He's right. But shifting that status quo to a sustainable path isn't nearly as difficult as some might think.

Every few years, the Congressional Budget Office issues proposals on how to put Social Security back on track. One solution is so simple that most would hardly notice a change.

Currently, initial Social Security benefits are determined with a calculation that considers how much you earned in the past adjusted for real wage growth. They call it wage indexing.

If Social Security switched to price indexing -- a process where initial benefits are calculated by adjusting past wages only for inflation, not real wage growth -- the Social Security trust fund would never become exhausted. Ever. The program becomes permanently viable.

Importantly, this would fix Social Security without the political venom of raising taxes. It would, of course, mean that future benefits would be incrementally lower than are currently promised, but this is inevitable without raising taxes.

It's a reasonable fix. It's even reason for optimism. By no means is it a Madoff.

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  • Report this Comment On September 12, 2011, at 5:16 PM, DonkeyJunk wrote:

    I'd never thought of publishing the same article twice on one page to hammer home my point. Still, I liked it just as much the second time. Have at it, naysayers.

  • Report this Comment On September 12, 2011, at 5:22 PM, djemonk wrote:

    Dear Mr. Housel,

    Can you please, in the future, stop bringing rational thought, facts, and reason to a political debate? It is clear that these things have no seat at the Republican/Democrat table and so your sound thinking and analysis are unfortunately worthless in this discussion.

    Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. It's a fact and I know it because it was on FOX news. It was on MSNBC when Bush was president, so we all agree.

    Sincerely,

    djemonk the Plumber

  • Report this Comment On September 12, 2011, at 5:47 PM, MaxTheTerrible wrote:

    +100 for comment #2

  • Report this Comment On September 12, 2011, at 5:50 PM, kirkydu wrote:

    As I have been telling DinQ in my blog. Fixing Social Security, which is a baseline pension program which is good for society, hence "social" security, is not that hard. Tinker with the details, i.e. only allow age 62 retirement for blue collar workers, flatten COLA a bit more, increase age a year or two, and put the money into a diversified global bond portfolio,

  • Report this Comment On September 12, 2011, at 6:10 PM, rtichy wrote:

    Morgan,

    (this is a separate issue, not related to this article)

    Have you considered writing about the argument that the high income earners are the "job creators" (John Boehner's words (today)?

    I don't believe that the CEOs of the Russell 2000, who are almost all "high earners", make any decisions about job creation or hiring based on their own personal income tax rates. After all, they are preoccupied with managing a company, and they have no time to be "entrepreneurs". This is the argument-- that high earners are entrepreneurs, but I bet the stats do not bear that out... the high earners are too busy being highly paid to be entrepreneurial.

    The entrepreneurial "class" could probably be better found in the owners of "micro"-businesses, not "small" businesses.

    I certainly believe that entrepreneurs should be encouraged to create jobs-- just don't lump in a bunch of other people who make a lot of money.

  • Report this Comment On September 12, 2011, at 6:11 PM, TMFHousel wrote:
  • Report this Comment On September 12, 2011, at 8:21 PM, whereaminow wrote:

    If Paul Samuelson, Keynesian god for 30-40 years, says it's a Ponzi Scheme, then it's a Ponzi Scheme. Here's the quote:

    "The beauty of social insurance is that it is actuarially unsound. Everyone who reaches retirement age is given benefit privileges that far exceed anything he has paid in -- exceed his payments by more than ten times (or five times counting employer payments)!

    How is it possible? It stems from the fact that the national product is growing at a compound interest rate and can be expected to do so for as far ahead as the eye cannot see. Always there are more youths than old folks in a growing population.

    More important, with real income going up at 3% per year, the taxable base on which benefits rest is always much greater than the taxes paid historically by the generation now retired.

    Social Security is squarely based on what has been called the eighth wonder of the world -- compound interest. A growing nation is the greatest Ponzi game ever contrived." -Paul Samuelson, Newsweek, 1967, http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2011/09/paul-samuelson-on-soc...

    So guess what? It's a Ponzi Scheme! I love when the Regressives turn into deniers. :)

    David in Qatar

  • Report this Comment On September 12, 2011, at 8:27 PM, CaptainWidget wrote:

    Better idea. How about letting people opt out. Then the true market value of social security can be revealed, I can stop throwing my money down the drain for benefits I'll never receive, and we take a step away from fascism in demanding that American's buy a service that they don't want.

    Your criteria for a Ponzi scheme are well intentioned, but wrong. A ponzi scheme is just any fradulent investment that's cash flow negative where investors are paid off with new investments. That's it. That's why Insurance doesn't qualify, it's not fraud. The books balance. SS doesn't...is it transparent.....maybe. Do you consider trillions of dollars of IOU's written by the fed, to the fed, in the fed's lockbox to be fraud? If the average American really understood the "lockbox" do you think they would voluntarily invest their own cash?

  • Report this Comment On September 12, 2011, at 11:40 PM, wolfman225 wrote:

    Morgan, have you looked into the Chilean model?

    I've read that they moved from a SS-like model to a more private account based plan for citizen retirement security and have proven that it could out-perform government-run plans.

    Also, the numbers you reported may soon no longer apply. Obama last year cut the employee side of the payroll tax and is now proposing cutting all payroll taxes (employee and employer) by 50%! I've posted elsewhere that this seems, to me, to be the height of stupidity. It makes no sense to take a program that is proven to be unsustainable in its current form and cut the only method of funding it by 50%. How much will such a funding cut accelerate the timetable of SS becoming insolvent? 10 years? 15? Or will the government simply give up the pretense of the "lock box" and include SS in the general budget and fund it with the income tax (they've been raiding the fund for the general budget for decades, anyway. May as well make it official)?

    The cynic in me whispers in my ear that this is a political maneuver designed to put Republicans in a no-win situation. If they block the plan, they're against relief for "working families"; if they allow it to go through, they are putting the SS "trust fund" in jeopardy. When the underfunding becomes critical, they'll face a choice of a)severely reducing benefits or b)letting the payroll tax cuts expire and getting blasted by the Dems for a tax hike on the poor and middle class.

    On the positive side (for Obama) he can intentionally underfund the program now, in the name of giving the "working class families" a tax break, thereby setting the stage for the next "crisis" that will be an excuse for a broad-based tax increase to "save" SS either in his second term or during the term of a future Dem President. This will, of course, be justified by the claim that they "tried the Republican's model of tax cuts to stimulate the economy, but it just doesn't work. Now, government needs to step in to protect American families."

  • Report this Comment On September 12, 2011, at 11:48 PM, TMFHousel wrote:

    <<Also, the numbers you reported may soon no longer apply. Obama last year cut the employee side of the payroll tax and is now proposing cutting all payroll taxes (employee and employer) by 50%!>>

    The shortfalls are paid into the SS trust fund w/ money from the general fund. The cuts increase the deficit, but SS solvency dates stay the same.

  • Report this Comment On September 13, 2011, at 11:23 AM, salrycapcasualty wrote:

    I think in practice the second requirement for a Ponzi scheme can be accomplished through a geometric increase in new funds (geometric increase in new participants not required). Social Security accomplished this via an expanding taxable base and an increased tax rate. Safe to say that the 3rd requirement will never be met because Congress is not going to collectively prosecute themselves.

    The decisions made during the last 40-50 years concerning the SS trust fund are in my mind more disconcerting than whether or not SS is a Ponzi Scheme. A business owner and/or corporate executive does not get to use company pension assets for personal or business purposes without running the risks of jail time and fines. Were the SS trust funds diverted to useful projects? Maybe, but so what?

    Doug

  • Report this Comment On September 13, 2011, at 1:07 PM, BMFPitt wrote:

    "The shortfalls are paid into the SS trust fund w/ money from the general fund. The cuts increase the deficit, but SS solvency dates stay the same."

    That type of statement would make even someone from Goldman Sachs blush.

    It's kind of like buying something on eBay that costs $0.01 and $50 for shipping, and saying that you bought it for a penny.

  • Report this Comment On September 13, 2011, at 1:12 PM, TMFHousel wrote:

    ^ I think I stated pretty clearly that the cuts add to the deficit. The comment I was responding to was in reference to how the payroll tax cut impacts trust fund assets.

  • Report this Comment On September 13, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Itocx wrote:

    Morgan, there are other definitions of a ponzi but, using the definition that you used, the SS trust fund fits each of the three criterion:

    "First, existing investors are paid with money raised from new investors."

    You ceded the point.

    "Second, the number of new investors has to increase geometrically to pay old investors."

    The number of SS "investors" HAS increased geometrically (take a peek at the population charts for the US since SS inception). While, as another poster noted, SS funding increases as the US economy grows, the US economic growth has been tied to it's population growth. It is only now that Boomers begin to retire that SS suffers insolvency if nothing is done.

    "Finally, it has to be a scheme to defraud that will fall apart when the curtain is raised."

    While you point out that the figures for the SS trust fund are out "in the open" the fact remains that most "investors" don't even know that their employers contribute an equal amount (i.e. that their real contribution is double what their pay stub suggests it is).

    While everything is out "in the open" the vast majority of contributors have no idea what they are contributing toward--the money is just taken from them. SS does NOT send out quarterly statements nor do the yearly statements that they do send out provide actual information (you have invested X and your nest egg is now X). There is a REASON that SS is not required to provide the kind of statements that everyone else is required to provide--it helps keep everyone in the dark about how poorly managed "their" contributions are.

    What would have happened to Madoff if "investors" were forced, by law, to contribute to his funds? He wouldn't have been found out until the population growth declined (just like SS).

    What would happen if "investors" in SS were given a choice to invest their own 13% of income and invest it in private funds? Not only would SS crumble faster than Madoff (i.e your third rule) but those investors would have a MUCH better return for 13% of their lifetime earnings.

  • Report this Comment On September 13, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Itocx wrote:

    "Importantly, this would fix Social Security without the political venom of raising taxes. It would, of course, mean that future benefits would be incrementally lower than are currently promised, but this is inevitable without raising taxes."

    "Fixing" SS--at heart a woefully managed "fund"--by lowing future benefits would make it even more criminal than it already is. There is no reason that portions of funds for future retirees (those, say, 45 and under) could not be invested into newly created, stable investment vehicles (as someone mentioned Brazil has been doing for some time). As time passes, all funds could be invested in that fashion. The current "investment" isn't one at all.

  • Report this Comment On September 13, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Itocx wrote:

    "The comment I was responding to was in reference to how the payroll tax cut impacts trust fund assets."

    Whether taken from your left-hand pocket or your right-hand pocket is immaterial. Either way it screws with the younger generation's fiscal security.

  • Report this Comment On September 13, 2011, at 3:48 PM, BMFPitt wrote:

    "I think I stated pretty clearly that the cuts add to the deficit. The comment I was responding to was in reference to how the payroll tax cut impacts trust fund assets."

    That was my point. The "Trust Fund" is nothing more than expected future tax revenues. The general fund is nothing more than current and expected future tax revenues. That there are two line items instead of one doesn't change the bottom line.

  • Report this Comment On September 13, 2011, at 3:55 PM, TMFHousel wrote:

    True, although "nothing more than expected future tax revenues" is a damn powerful asset when the govt has the power to tax.

  • Report this Comment On September 14, 2011, at 12:25 AM, cmiles3 wrote:

    Given the reluctance to change anything that might politically be construed as cutting Social Security, it might be considered a Ponzi scheme. Considering the way price indexing is conducted, it might be that the suggested change is just another attack on benefits already paid for. Given that the rates of return on the "investments" by the SSA/Treasury are so low, it might be concluded that the SSA is raiding the pension funds... or it might be that sanity will return and Congress will find the will to fix the problem? Nahhhh....

  • Report this Comment On September 14, 2011, at 8:19 AM, lrmacds wrote:

    "True, although 'nothing more than expected future tax revenues' is a damn powerful asset when the govt has the power to tax."

    You have to choose, then. Either you want to argue that the "Trust Fund" raiding the general fund will increase the deficit or the "Trust Fund" doesn't exist and the program cannot cover its own expenses right now, today.

  • Report this Comment On September 14, 2011, at 8:46 AM, TMFHousel wrote:

    The Trust Fund does exist, but it's filled with Treasuries, not cash. If people want to assume those assets are worthless, they have to also subtract $2.5 trillion from the national debt. You can't consider a bond someone's liability but no one's asset.

  • Report this Comment On September 14, 2011, at 8:53 PM, TiaCyn wrote:

    Morgan, I would argue that the connotations of the term "scheme" are not nearly as important as "Ponzi" when relating that to SS payouts. Whether or not anyone thinks there's an intent to fraud, the bottom line is people will receive more than they contributed and the payouts depend on the continuing contributions of new payers.

    Insurance seems to me more like legalized gambling. You bet you're going to need it; the insurance companies bet you're not. But in the end, you only get paid if it's deemed you need it. However, the difference between SS and insurance is that with SS everyone gets a payout, not just the unfortunate few.

  • Report this Comment On September 15, 2011, at 12:46 PM, wolfman225 wrote:

    "<<Also, the numbers you reported may soon no longer apply. Obama last year cut the employee side of the payroll tax and is now proposing cutting all payroll taxes (employee and employer) by 50%!>>

    The shortfalls are paid into the SS trust fund w/ money from the general fund. The cuts increase the deficit, but SS solvency dates stay the same."

    -----------------------------

    Isn't this the same thing I included in my post?

    "Or will the government simply give up the pretense of the "lock box" and include SS in the general budget and fund it with the income tax (they've been raiding the fund for the general budget for decades, anyway. May as well make it official)?"

    If covering future shortfalls out of the general fund was really a solution to the problem of the future insolvency of Social Security, why all the articles warning of the looming crisis? We've been warned for over a decade that SS is unsustainable as currently structured. If the solution was as simple as increases in the income tax to cover future shortfalls, it would be a political non-issue. There would be no talk of delaying eligibility, raising the income level subject to FICA, means testing, etc.

    If SS is to remain viable in any form it needs to be restructured. Sooner better than later. Perhaps some combination of the Paul Ryan plan that protects those 55+ from any changes and the idea from Gov. Perry that control of the system be given to individual states could be phased in over the next decade. Citizens would then be free to determine for themselves the type of safety net they want, as well as the level of benefits offered. Whether a state decided on a defined benefit program (pension), 401k-type personal accounts, or some sort of pension/private acct. hybrid, the citizenry would have been given a say in how such plans would be administered and funded.

  • Report this Comment On September 16, 2011, at 3:33 PM, kloud4377 wrote:

    Since the government has already spent the lock-box contents, that fix is off the table. However, one good idea to help SS last would be to only send checks to those who have actually retired. You might be amazed at the number of the currently employed are receiving checks.

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