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Tenet Healthcare Corp (THC 2.32%)
Q4 2020 Earnings Call
Feb 10, 2021, 10:00 a.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Welcome to Tenet Healthcare Corporation's Fourth Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call.

I will now turn the call over to Regina Nethery, Vice President of Investor Relations for Tenet.

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Regina Nethery -- Vice President of Investor Relations

Thank you. We're pleased to have you join us for a discussion of Tenet's fourth quarter 2020 results, as well as a discussion of our financial outlook for 2021. Tenet senior management participating in today's call will be Ron Rittenmeyer, Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Saum Sutaria, President and Chief Operating Officer; and Dan Cancelmi, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Our webcast this morning includes an accompanying slide presentation, which has been posted to the Investor Relations section of our website, tenethealth.com.

Listeners to this call are advised that certain statements made during our discussion today are forward-looking and represent Tenet management's expectations based on currently available information. Actual results and plans could differ materially. Tenet is under no obligation to update any forward-looking statements based on subsequent information. Investors should take note of the cautionary statement slide included in today's presentation, as well as the risk factors discussed in our most recent Form 10-K, subsequent Form 10-Q filings and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Ron.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Regina, and thank you all for joining us this morning. I would like to briefly highlight the results of the fourth quarter, and then take a few minutes to discuss our current broad thinking on the business units, our plans for 2021, and establish the basis for how we see the continuing transformation of the Tenet enterprise continuing in '21 and forward. Tammy will spend time on the details of the fourth quarter in a few minutes.

I did want to highlight a few points worth mentioning as outlined on Slide 3. Our overall results for the fourth quarter, adjusted EBITDA of $832 million, which excludes grant income, and has a $19 million gain from the sale leaseback of a medical office building, was notable better than forecast. This performance was achieved, while we remained under a COVID surge. It started around Thanksgiving and remains, although trending down, with us today.

We closed the year with approximately 2,700 cases that are active inpatient. And today, we're at approximately 1,900 active inpatient cases across our system. Having peaked in January, at about 3,000 cases, which was actually greater than our July surge.

Our hospital segment achieved its budget in the fourth quarter, excluding grant income. The grant income we received covered losses throughout the pandemic, not just the fourth quarter. And we remain with an overall loss of hospital revenue of approximately $500 million, which is not covered and which to date we have absorbed. We are very appreciative of the grants, which had helped mitigate the losses to our system due to COVID, allowing us to remain stable and focused on patient needs.

While admissions remained below 2019 driven in large part by the COVID spike continuing and the reluctance of patients who seek care by delaying it or simply ignoring it, acuity remains very strong. We also benefited from the improvements we've made in managing the segment, utilizing database predictive analytics, the addition of new service offerings, ongoing strong cost controls, and the additional specialists we've added throughout our hospital system.

Ambulatory equally had a very strong quarter. Although cases were down due to the pandemic by 5.5%, our revenue per case improved by 5%, driven by improved acuity. USPI business performance has recovered in earnings and is pressing beyond the 2019 levels. And as lower acuity cases return, should grow earnings even further. The cost controls, as well as the revenue per case improvements more than offset the case loss. And we expect the transition to lower acuity cases to follow the pattern set by the vaccine distributions.

We do expect the current activity to remain high than in the past. Overall, the combination of solid continued performance with the core of USPI, and the addition of the SCD facilities, which have performed very well, have continued to make the ambulatory segment a very strong performer.

Conifer also had another excellent quarter, with increased revenues by 3.6%. Additionally, revenue from third-party clients increased 5.2% from the fourth quarter of 2019. The year-to-date revenues remained slightly below 2019, due to divestitures of hospitals by Tenet and other clients, and the pandemic impact across all clients.

Conifer's EBITDA performance for 2020 was very strong. And while down 4.9% or approximately $19 million, their margin in 2020 was 28.1%, which is the same as 2019. The cash collection process, very well executed as were the services provided to our clients. The amount of disruption from the pandemic and the management changes made this a difficult year for managing Conifer, but we are very pleased with the resiliency and their commitment to the entire client base.

Altogether, as you can see on Slide 4, we delivered $399 million of net income in 2020 and $3.1 billion in consolidated adjusted EBITDA. And what's impressive is the steady improvements we've been making over time and how this has translated to our continued growth, particularly as it relates to EBITDA.

Taking a look at some of the key elements of our balance sheet as outlined on Slide 5, we've made significant improvements. Today, we have approximately $2.9 billion of secured capacity, which is a significant improvement from the last few years. We ensured our liquidity was solid during the pandemic, and we issued some additional notes, as well as expanded our revolver.

We actively reduced our capital budget across the entire system and we benefited from the focus on free cash flow, delivering excellent results. Conifer's focus on cash collections was a significant driver of our free cash flow. This clearly tied to our decision on the cash acquisition of the 45 ambulatory centers from SCD in December, and has also strengthened our financial profile, and we have announced the retirement of approximately $478 million in debt.

It's important to realize we're very engaged in determining our debt strategy, its relationship to our acquisition and divestiture strategy, and deciding what actions are best for our shareholders and for the long-term stability of the Company. Today, our leverage ratio for the quarter is 4.7 times, and we expect to finish 2021 below 5 times, despite paying back a large portion of the Medicare advance funds.

These are important milestones in our transformation. This does not imply that we are satisfied, as we will continue to actively evaluate every mechanism possible to improve these measures. It does mean we are in a different place than we were at the end of 2017, and our decisions are based on the best possible set of actions driven by data and a deeper understanding that we believe with our Board provides the best outcome long-term for our investors, suppliers, employees, communities we serve, and most of all our patients.

Our debt trading levels remain very strong, and speak to the financial strength that the debt markets have on our business.

As I mentioned recently at the JPMorgan conference and as you can see on Slide 6, over the next three years, we expect the portfolio mix of our hospital segment to move from 53% of the portfolio mix of EBITDA to 35%. We also expect the segment to continue to provide higher quality of earnings from the higher acuity cases we expect based on our expansion of specific specialty service lines and our focus on the chronically ill patient.

We are continuing our strategy of trimming the hospital portfolio of assets that we believe do not fit our strategy. Memphis as an example was an opportunity, and we decided not to press back on the FTC's decision. Given the potential of Memphis, we're equally pleased to have it in our portfolio. There are others however, we are -- there are others however that we should consider, and we'll continue to act accordingly.

When we make these decisions we do so thoughtfully and within the transformational envelope we have created. It's a very active part of our strategic platform and process. Again, so we're clear. We're not on a selling campaign, but we remain active in selection and decision based on several attributes tied to alignment of our markets to our overall goals.

We also expect USPI to continue to expand its footprint. We plan to continue with de novo placements, tuck-in acquisitions, as well as considering large actions that are available and justified. We have successfully completed the recent SCD buy, and to date remain extremely pleased with performance and the opportunities these units have added to our portfolio. We've also added over 3,500 new physicians on staff across USPI and included 73 new service line starts in 2020. We expect the portfolio EBITDA mix of this segment to increase from 33% to 50% or greater going forward. These are the stats and the progression of the business we are investing in, and plan to continue to ensure it remains a leader in its category.

Our presence in the Global Business Center has also proven to be very successful. We developed this additional business unit during the pandemic and staff trained and deployed most of the associates during the lockdown in the Philippines. The design remains to provide 24/7 support to the entire organization, and we have been successfully growing and operating it since February 2020. Their support has proven invaluable across our system, as we can process and react in shorter time frames with quicker response providing our field teams with efficient and effective information that ensures they can execute their roles successfully.

At JPMorgan presentation, we noted the plan to double the number of associates by 3,000 -- to 3,000 by the end of 2021 and to 5,000 by the end of 2023. These individuals perform many revenue cycle tasks for Conifer across all of their portfolio offerings. They perform many Tenet tasks, like payroll accounting, audit support and marketing. We will expand these offerings and others in the coming months, and we see a path to potentially provide these services to other clients since we've proven they are effective, and the value of a 24-hour operation and providing support is truly significant.

So before I hand this over to Dan to focus on the quarter guidance and other important areas, I'd like to discuss Conifer. Move to Slide 7. The decision on the future of Conifer was a debate long before I took over as Chairman and CEO. When I first spoke at JPMorgan in January 2018, I clearly stated we're going to initiate a process to determine the viability to sell Conifer. We spent the greater part of the year engaged with potential buyers, whose offers were at the low end of our expectations, and frankly were not a reasonable return for our shareholders.

Throughout 2018, we remained true to our commitment, and spent significant time focused on the best pathway. At the same time, realizing the value contained in Conifer had not yet been realized. We made significant improvements. Not distracted by a potential sale or another alternative, we ran Conifer to succeed and not to be taken by another party, a loss to Tenet and thus to our shareholders. The results were a $74 million improvement in EBITDA in 2018 and a margin that went from 17.7% to 23.3%.

In every case, not a single party was interested in paying for the improvements or even acknowledging they were sustainable. We then researched potential merger candidates which proved not effective, and determined the best potential course of action was a tax-free spin. We announced the tax-free spin in July 2019 and set a timetable of late second quarter 2021. Our plan was to use the time to address what we believe were gaps necessary to close before spin would be successful. These included new leadership, assessment of the Tenet contract that needed to be renewed, determination of how we could reignite the growth trajectory that has really been stagnant for a couple of years, and a clearer assessment of the overall technology, including the current use of outsourcing.

Conifer ended 2019 with an improved EBITDA of approximately $386 million and a 28.1% margin, which substantiated our improvements were sustainable, and our decision was correct not to accept that buyers would not include these improvements to be valued in a potential sale. We ended 2020 with a strong start in Conifer. And we believed it was a clear path forward. We also initiated start-up of the Global Business Center, and began to place approximately 600 new associates in the center, which covered Conifer and Tenet activities that we began to relocate. By late February, we entered the pandemic. Conifer was forced to trim its teams to begin to move call center personnel to the home-work possible.

Our entire focus turned to cash collection, and maintaining the various administrative services they provided to ensure hospitals continued to function properly. The Philippines also went into a lockdown, but we were able to hire, train and initiate work with 1,000 new associates in and around Manila. They were up to speed quickly and provided much needed support during these very hectic days.

We are proud of how quickly and effectively the whole Conifer team reacted to support our hospitals and other clients and ensure our patients received the attention they needed. We also hired a new CEO for Conifer in December 2020, and were fortunate to find someone who had a solid background, a clear vision on growth and performance. He understands the business, and is engaging in developing the pathway for growth and service to our clients.

From summer of 2020, we also added a new COO, and a COO Client Services. Both individuals bring experience in their respective areas and are going to be additive to our new CEO. Muscle building the leadership during COVID was difficult, but our results have been excellent, and we're really excited about these additions.

We are aligning our priorities to develop credible point solutions that are ready to take to market. We realize the development of the GBC also offers the opportunity to potentially create another offering for Conifer that could be taking the selected clients focused on their administrative areas that are fully functional in the GBC, supporting Tenet's field operations and expanding as a live case study. These new offerings will be a strong addition over time to Conifer's portfolio, as we develop and implement them using the Tenet experience as a roadmap.

And as we return attention to the expired Tenet contract, we've also determined there were opportunities to potentially move Tenet's mid-cycle business support to Conifer during 2021. The Tenet contract is close to being finalized. It's an arm's length and fully negotiated commercial agreement, designed to be between two fully independent companies.

Previously, I stated we remain on track for the spin in late Q2 or early Q3. And while we continue to make solid progress on this front, the reality is after we reviewed the number of open issues we must complete, many driven by delays in COVID, we realized the rush to spin the business in the next few months was simply not the right decision. We have work remaining on the growth plan, including the launching of the point solutions, potential movement of the other Tenet business to Conifer, as well as a new agreement being in place.

Continued discussions to further develop new opportunities and segment existing opportunities were CommonSpirit, scaling up the GBC which is a critical linchpin, and settling the new management into a cadence that would allow us to make this move seamlessly. We know there are opportunities in new third-party contracts and growth, new lines of business and financial outsourcing and the GBC expansion. We also know the areas we are not fully closed, due to the distraction in delays of COVID. As such, we believe it is prudent to take an additional 12 months from Q2 2021 to prepare Conifer for a highly successful and sustainable spin.

We have proven for the last three years that Conifer is a very valuable asset, and is adding value to our shareholders every day. We believe the decision is in the Company and shareholders' best interest to successfully spin Conifer, maximizing the value of the importance of this business unit. We expect 2021 will be a solid year for Conifer, and we expect the changes we outlined to improve the stability and scope of the business are truly value-enhancing and necessary.

Remember, Conifer is a 28% margin business, which has demonstrated sustainable performance. Conifer is still positioned for a strong apples-to-apples, EBITDA growth of 9%, excluding the projected $35 million recontracting with Tenet and the $9 million AR recovery in 2020.

So with that, let me turn this over to Dan, who can discuss more details in the quarter and our guidance. And then I'll have a few closing comments. Dan?

Daniel Cancelmi -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Ron, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin this morning with Slide 8. Our net income in Q4 was $414 million compared to a loss of $3 million last year. Our adjusted EBITDA in the quarter of $832 million, excluding grant income, was significantly better than our pandemic revised internal forecast, notwithstanding the surge in COVID in our markets.

Also our Q4 EBITDA, excluding grants, was better than the consensus estimate of $773 million at the time we previewed our Q4 results in January, even if you exclude a $19 million gain from the sale of a medical office building, and a $9 million bankruptcy bad debt recovery in Q4 that we disclosed.

As you can see from the chart, our fourth quarter EBITDA has grown quite a bit over the past several years. Q4 2020 EBITDA was 4% higher than last year and 20% higher than Q4 2018, even though volumes were substantially lower due to the pandemic. This strong performance was due to continuing solid cost management, investments in new service lines and very high patient acuity cases, which contributed to historically high net revenue per case growth. Including grant income of $446 million, our fourth quarter EBITDA was $1.278 billion.

In our third quarter Form 10-Q, we did disclose that we anticipated recognizing approximately $100 million of grant income in the fourth quarter. However, as we previewed in January, the additional grant income is primarily attributable to the revised guidance and the Consolidated Appropriations Act enacted in December for determining lost revenues and the ability to transfer grant funds received among subsidiaries within a hospital system that are most impacted by the pandemic.

The grant income we recognized in 2020 was approximately $500 million less than the amount of lost revenues we incurred as a result of the pandemic. However, we appreciate the funding and the revised guidelines as they help healthcare providers partially mitigate the impact of the pandemic. From an earnings per share perspective, our U.S. GAAP EPS in Q4 was $3.86 versus a loss of $0.03 in Q4 2019.

Turning to Slide 9, you will see we produced $334 million of EBITDA in the month of December, excluding grants, compared to $259 million in November, and $239 million in October, demonstrating strong sequential growth throughout the quarter. Particularly encouraging was the fact the month of December results excluding grants was about $15 million better than our pre-pandemic budget, despite substantially lower volumes due to COVID.

We are pleased with the performance of each of our business units during the quarter. Beginning with the hospital segment, although COVID cases surged in all of our markets, our hospital business achieved its original EBITDA budget for the quarter, even when you exclude grant income. The strong performance was primarily attributable to a commercial payer mix, more favorable than aggregate volumes, very high patient acuity, as our case mix index increased 11% year-over-year, and continuing effective cost management, which help mitigate the impact of incremental expenses from the pandemic such as higher temporary labor, premium pay and PPE costs.

Turning to our USPI platform. The ambulatory business continued to perform very well, as USPI outperformed our expectations for the quarter. Surgical volumes for the quarter were 95% of 2019 levels, despite a difficult year-over-year comp as we produced over 3% growth in Q4 2019. Our Conifer business also delivered a strong quarter, producing EBITDA of $111 million, compared to $94 million in Q4 2019, growth of 18%. Conifer's results exceeded our original budget and its favorable performance was attributable to continuing cost efficiency actions, as well as the receipt of $9 million related to receivables we had to fully reserve in 2019 due to a client's bankruptcy.

Next, let's turn to Slide 10, where we present our monthly volume statistics during the quarter. Despite another surge in COVID cases, hospital volumes held steady compared to Q3. Our USPI surgical volume trends improved slightly, recovering to about 95% of 2019 levels. As we've discussed in the past, more complex and emergent procedures have recovered from the pandemic at a stronger pace than less critical lower acuity care. Our COVID inpatient cases were approximately 11% of our Q4 hospital admissions, compared to about 10% in the third quarter.

Slide 11 summarizes the actions we've taken this past year to improve our financial position, including Conifer's improved cash collection performance, issuing $1.3 billion of notes to enhance our liquidity during the pandemic, refinancing $2.5 billion of debt that eliminated any significant debt maturities until June of 2023 and we increased our line of credit capacity by $400 million. Also, the sale of medical office building for $60 million in December, and the anticipated sale of our urgent care business by the end of the first quarter of this year for about $80 million provides us approximately $140 million of additional liquidity.

We're also going to retire in the first quarter $478 million of 7% debt with cash on hand that will save us about $33 million of interest annually. Based on our performance during the year and the various actions we've taken, we've reduced our leverage to under 5 times adjusted EBITDA at year-end, coming in at 4.7 times compared to 5.3 times at December 2019.

Let's Let's now turn to Slide 12 and discuss cash flows during the quarter and the year. This slide is an analysis we've been presenting since the beginning of the pandemic to demonstrate we have not been burning through cash from operations.

For the year, we generated approximately $1.2 billion of free cash flow when you exclude the Medicare advances we received and the deferred company payroll tax match under the stimulus legislation that will have to be repaid over the next two years. The $1.2 billion of free cash flow compares to $563 million in 2019, which is growth of over $600 million.

The strong cash collection performance by our Conifer team was a key contributor to the significant year-over-year increase in our free cash flow. We currently have sufficient cash resources and available liquidity under our $1.9 billion line of credit. At year end, we had over $2.4 billion of cash on hand and no borrowings outstanding under our line.

Turning now to our 2021 guidance. Slide 13 provides a walk forward of our 2020 EBITDA to the midpoints of our expectations for this year. Although, there are various uncertainties as to how the pandemic will impact us this year, we believe we have sufficient visibility and confidence as to how our business will perform during the ebbs and flows of the pandemic to enable us to provide investors an outlook of our projected results this year.

On this slide, we point out various EBITDA puts and takes in 2021 compared to last year. USPI's acquisition and de novo development activity will add approximately $240 million of EBITDA including the SCD centers acquired, and we anticipate year-over-year growth in hospital admissions and USPI surgical cases compared to last year of about 5% and 18% respectively will also be a key driver of EBITDA growth in 2021 as well as continued cost actions.

Compared to volumes in 2019, we are projecting hospital admissions and USPI surgical cases will be about 93% and 101% of 2019 volumes. While we are encouraged by the recent decline in COVID cases and the distributions of vaccines across the country, our volume estimates incorporate the possibility that varying strains of the virus could result in the volume recovery not necessarily being linear during the year.

Although, we would expect that as more vaccines are provided, our volumes and results could strengthen as we move through the year. Other important points about our guidance include our hospital net revenue per adjusted admission and per surgical case will moderate this year as lower acuity procedures continue to recover. We anticipate $45 million of additional revenues related to the Arizona Medicaid program. As we discussed on our third quarter call, Medicaid funding for providers throughout the state increased over 30% as a result of the new supplemental program that went into effect on October 1 last year.

We will have a few headwinds this year. The Medicare sequestration 2% revenue reductions are scheduled to be restored effective April 1, which will result in a revenue decline of about $46 million. Also we recognized a $19 million gain from the sale of the medical office building in December that obviously won't repeat this year.

The other item I want to mention on the slide is that we are revising the pricing and scope of services under our new revenue cycle contract to be finalized between Conifer and our hospitals. The new contract once finalized is anticipated to result in a $35 million EBITDA reduction for Conifer this year. The previous contract between Conifer and our hospitals was implemented many years ago and these revisions appropriately reset the rates and scope of services going forward, which will continue to be on a commercially reasonable arm's length basis.

On Slide 14, we provide our 2021 EBITDA outlook for our three business segments compared to 2019. The portion of our EBITDA mix from our USPI business is expected to be over 40% of the total enterprise compared to about 33% in 2019. Before the USPI acquisition in 2015, our ambulatory business represented less than 5% of enterprisewide EBITDA; the phenomenal growth story. Conifer is expected to generate growth of 9%, excluding the Tenet contract adjustment and the bad debt recovery I mentioned earlier.

As for cash flows in this year, we anticipate generating free cash flow of about $1.2 billion and adjusted free cash flow of $1.325 billion this year, before taking into consideration the repayments will make in 2021 of approximately $700 million for the Medicare advances and the deferred company payroll tax match. Our anticipated free cash flow of $1.2 billion minus expected cash NCI payments of $470 million results in positive cash flows of $730 million approximately or about $7 per share. While we will have to repay the $700 million of Medicare advances and deferred payroll taxes this year, we already have sufficiently reserved that amount in our balance sheet cash.

The recurring underlying free cash flow generation of our business has significantly improved over the past several years. And we have sufficient liquidity to continue to support growth initiatives such as continuing to invest in the core business in addition to supporting growth initiatives in our faster growth, higher margin ambulatory business.

With respect to the Medicare advance payments we received in 2020 in our hospital segment. We anticipate that over $500 million will be repaid by us throughout 2021 via claim payment offsets beginning in April. We are exploring the possibility of early paying $500 million in a lump sum payment prior to April rather than repaying the amount over the last nine months of the year through claims payment offsets. This will require the approval of HHS. We'll keep you posted on this.

In summary, we are very proud of everything that our employees were able to accomplish in 2021, amid an extremely difficult environment. We believe the numerous actions taken over the past several years position us well, the continued successful growth this year and beyond. With that, I'll end by saying that our strong performance is due to the steadfast dedication of our patient caregivers and employees throughout the enterprise.

I'll now turn the call back over to Ron.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Dan. In summary, I guess, I just hit a couple of points. We had a solid Q4 in 2020. I think we've responded incredibly effectively in the quarter to the spikes we had and generally to the overall pandemic. Our performance improvements are sustainable. We've proven that, and we believe they will carry us forward. Hospital segment is performing very well across all major areas. USPI continues to provide sustainable and positive trends with greater opportunity to expand further and that's where our focus is. Conifer remains a very strong performer. And we have an opportunity to now as hopefully the pandemic winds down, really get aggressive about the growth portfolio and develop a stronger team overall.

The spin is viable. It is still going to occur slight delay of the year, but in the scheme of things that is not a big delay because it will give us an opportunity to get past COVID and be prepared to do this in a much more effective manner.

So net, we're pleased with the results we've delivered, and we're very proud of the team's throughout this entire Company that have performed and this performance has simply been outstanding.

So with that operator, we'll turn it over to open for questions.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Thank you. The Tenet management team is now ready to take your question. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Kevin Fischbeck with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Hey, Kevin.

Kevin Fischbeck -- Bank of America -- Analyst

Hey. Thanks. I just wanted to dig into your guidance on hospital volumes. It's kind of interesting to me that from the outpatient visit perspective, your [Technical Issues] in Q4 at the low end. It doesn't really seem to be assuming a lot of ramp or improvement there, and even the inpatient number doesn't seem to be assuming improvement, I guess. Are you thinking about volumes getting back to normal? I mean will it be a straight line? It seems like your volume guidance would be a little bit low, much less if there was pent-up demand, particularly if we're talking about 2019, where you think the years of population growth demand might actually overall be higher. So is there anything to think about there as far as your view? You provided a little bit of color on timing of volumes, but anything you're thinking about there or the economy impacting volumes or I don't know I just -- it seems like it's a conservative outlook.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Good question. Saum?

Saum Sutaria -- President and Chief Operating Officer

Hey, Kevin. It's Saum. There is a few things impacting it. First of all, we are still in the middle of a winter COVID surge at this point across the country. And obviously, it's affecting a number of our markets. As you know, throughout the pandemic, we've put a lot of effort into ensuring we have adequate capacity, so that we could simultaneously maintain access for patients to surgical and other procedural care they need, given all the other chronic illnesses people have as well as accommodate the COVID-related volumes.

As we look forward, we had a few thoughts in mind. First of all, in the midst of this uncertainty, we've guided toward improved volumes in 2021 relative to what we look back at as a 2019 year. But there is still a range of uncertainty around that because we don't know exactly how the COVID situation will evolve. We don't yet know if the COVID vaccines will be effective all the way into next winter. We really don't know the answer to many of those questions.

We're obviously pushing appropriately to continue our strategy of expanding services for patients with chronic illness, and in particular, the higher acuity strategies that we have been pursuing all along. In the fourth quarter alone, I mean, we opened up and expanded a significant cardiac surgery program at our Children's Hospital in Michigan. We expanded robotics programs in three or four markets. We received stroke certification at three hospitals. As you know, that's a very important designation going forward in terms of how stroke care will be administered based upon EMS run. So, we are continuing to progress on those strategies. But we are careful right now because of the COVID activity about what that volume picture could look like for the whole year.

From an outpatient perspective, the biggest factor driving again our guide upwards, but not a return to 2019 type of volumes is really the emergency department outpatient visits, which have slowed. And we've talked about this before. If schools and sports and other things open up, the categories that have had the most decline in demand, the types of sports injuries kids needs for either respiratory illness or other things that begin to come back, that will make a big difference.

And again, we just don't have any way to predict right now into the middle and the end of the year what will happen. We have not made any major adjustments to our volume projections on the basis of predictions around the macro-economy and or enrolment status.

So again, a lot of detail there, just so that you have a sense of where we are. But we've been thoughtful and conservative about these projections. Most important to note by the way is we are bullish on our ability to generate earnings even with those volumes because of our cost control and focus on high acuity.

Kevin Fischbeck -- Bank of America -- Analyst

That's helpful. Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Pito Chickering with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Pito Chickering -- Deutsche Bank -- Analyst

Good morning, guys. Question here on capital deployment. Capex, as a percent of revenue, is trending a tad higher in the last few [Phonetic] years. Are you guys finding better ROI for capex investments? Or does the cash flow generation simply provide more ability to invest? And also on capital deployment, with the retirement of the 7% notes, most of your debt is pretty reasonably be priced. How should we think about free cash flows going forward to M&A versus debt reductions? And as you delever that next year, is it primarily to EBITDA growth? Thanks so much.

Saum Sutaria -- President and Chief Operating Officer

Hey, Pito, it's Saum again. I'll start off and then pass it to Dan. In line with the comments that I just made, we continue to be thoughtful about the capital investments in the service lines in the hospitals that we think have growth potential based upon the underlying demographics and opportunity to create better and more profitable service lines for the community in those markets.

So yes, we are -- our strategy that began two or three years ago to move toward that range of services has played out pretty well, and we have more confidence now being able to look back at which investments worked and which investments maybe didn't work, where we can deploy that capital into which service lines with higher returns. So, we do have a greater degree of confidence in that.

It has also obviously generated a set of opportunities for us at the intersection of our ambulatory and hospital business in terms of high return capital deployment. As you know, beyond the SCD type transactions, Brett and the team have a very robust development pipeline and the activities and opportunities there will only grow, given our ability to manage these centers in a best-in-class way.

So, what I would say is that, as we find those opportunities in our priority markets that have a higher return, we have been deliberate about making more investments that will strengthen our portfolio and have the discipline of delivering high returns.

Daniel Cancelmi -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Hey Pito, it's Dan. Good morning. In terms of overall capital allocation and leverage, obviously, the earnings growth will continue to be a key driver of the strategy to delever, as well as reducing outstanding debt in totality. And this was -- as we took a step forward when -- last night, we announced that we have sufficient liquidity, 7% notes. We think it makes all the sense in the world to retire that, saves us interest of over $30 million, improves free cash flow.

We do have other tranches that are out there that we could retire. The rates aren't bad, but they are callable at reasonable prices. And we also have a 7.5% note tranche that next spring we can take out at a reasonable rate. So, we're looking at a lot of various options in terms of how to deploy capital from a standpoint of reducing our debt.

Listen, we're going to continue to allocate capital to obviously the USPI ambulatory business. The guidance we have in here, it assumes $150 million, $200 million of M&A type of activity. But as we demonstrated with the SCD transaction, if there is the right opportunity out there, we will invest more capital in that side of the business. We're also investing capital very diligently with very good returns, with returns that we think are appropriately risk adjusted in the hospital business and growing higher acuity type of services in various markets.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

And Conifer. Also in Conifer.

Daniel Cancelmi -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

And Conifer.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Looking at these point solutions, some of the other things. So I think we're doing it thoughtfully and appropriately and very, very focused on data to support the decision making. So...

Daniel Cancelmi -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So to your other point about free cash flow growth. I mean, this year, it will be about $1.3 billion before we pay back some of the stimulus monies and even when you back out the cash NCI payments, that creates a lot of excess free cash flow and we would expect that to continue to grow as we move beyond 2021.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Because our earnings are growing. And as we make the shift into the ambulatory etc., they're growing. So, we've changed the profile of the quality of earnings. So anyway, thanks for the question.

Operator

Our next question comes from Justin Lake with Wolfe Research. Please proceed with your question.

Justin Lake -- Wolfe Research -- Analyst

Thanks. Good morning. Wanted to follow up on -- you mentioned some comments that you've seen COVID volume has moderated a little bit in January. Wanted to see if you could give us any color there. I think there is a debate out there in terms of how quickly the deferred care might come back, as COVID obviously seems to be moderating pretty significantly across the country. So we'd love to hear kind of any commentary you can give us on January. And then just bigger picture, how do you kind of see that? Do you think there is a delay before some of that ER comes back? How much do you think is structural? Thanks.

Saum Sutaria -- President and Chief Operating Officer

Yeah. Hey, Justin. It's Saum. So a couple of things. I mean, as we noted, our COVID volumes in January exceeded on a given day 3,000 inpatients, which is higher than where we were in July. And it was a sustained increase over the month of January. And it has started to come down and come down rapidly. It's down by at least a third of that peak at this point, which obviously for us has put us in a situation where there might have been some capacity constraints in January. We're free of those capacity constraints in all of our markets at this point and actively engaged in the same recovery playbook that we've used twice before very successfully in bringing patients back. That by the way includes the approaches that we've taken to really quickly managing access for doctors for inpatients for deferred care, including the monitoring of cases that were deferred and reengaging with their offices to get those scheduled very, very quickly.

In addition, because we've been able to open up our operating rooms quickly, we've been offering capacity there to physicians that may not be utilizers of our hospitals full time, but they're looking for places to bring their patients and we've been able to offer them the opportunity to come back in earlier. So from a procedural standpoint, we're moving very, very quickly to address the deferred care that patients need. One of the unique things about kind of the December, January time frame was that some states did have softer executive order type things that slowed down care -- surgical care a little bit. Those have all been lifted at this point.

The deferred ER care, I would point out a couple of things, one is that the admissions through the ER have been strong, continue to be strong through January on a non-COVID basis and are strong going into February. What's really slower are the lower acuity visits that patients have been a little bit nervous about coming back to the hospitals. And I think as COVID dissipates, we'll do the work to begin to convince the community that the hospitals are safe settings for those lower acuity cases.

And while we're on the COVID topic, I'll make one other point about the cost management and COVID management that we've put into place. Last quarter, I mentioned that we had noted that both from a contract labor perspective and a patient day capacity perspective that length of stay in the COVID patient environment had increased because of the acuity and illness there.

One of the things that drove the fourth quarter results from a cost containment standpoint is we've successfully from that period of time forward managed our length of stay very well on the COVID side and we maintained our performance on the non-COVID side. That helped to create capacity, alleviate some of the staffing challenges, and also get patients healthier further. So, we're getting better at the management of the COVID care even as we look into this quarter with all the COVID that we have. I think it's a pretty important cost management point from a COVID standpoint that is important to address.

Justin Lake -- Wolfe Research -- Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jamie Perse with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

Jamie Perse -- Goldman Sachs -- Analyst

Hey. Good morning, guys. I wanted to follow up a little bit on the volume assumptions you're making. You're assuming a lower revenue per adjusted admission this year. 3% to 5% lower is your range. I just wanted to tie that back to how you're thinking about volumes. I assume there is lower acuity care and in your model coming back, but it doesn't seem like the pressure you're assuming for revenue per adjusted admission is commensurate with the volume, or slight volume increases you're seeing. Maybe just talk about those two variables and how you're thinking about both?

Daniel Cancelmi -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Hey, Jamie. It's Dan. Good morning. In terms of pricing, let me say a couple of things. First that the overall metric that you mentioned 3% to 5% decline in net rev per adjusted admission. I mean that is largely -- it's a function of the fact that there is going to be lower acuity volume coming back. That's our expectation at this point. I would tell you -- but the core base rate, so, let's go through by payer. From a commercial perspective, we have very good visibility into commercial pricing. We have over 90% of our commercial book business under contract this year. We've talked in the past and it continues to be the same. We would expect rate increases, 3%, 4%, 5%, it depends on acuity as well.

Medicare pricing on the inpatient side, about almost 2% year-over-year increase. On the outpatient side, Medicare is actually about 3.5%. And from a USPI perspective, the Medicare rate updates are about a little over 2% as well. So the aggregate pricing is negotiated rate basis or with the government payers is very solid. We've got strong visibility into that. We feel very good about that. The metric is being impacted. We are assuming that lower acuity business does come back. And it's a math exercise. It does have an impact on the overall metric, but we feel really good about the pricing and not only in aggregate by service line, by market etc.

Jamie Perse -- Goldman Sachs -- Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks for the color.

Operator

Our next question comes from Frank Morgan with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Frank Morgan -- RBC Capital Markets -- Analyst

Thank you and good morning. I guess I'll ask more of a higher level question here. I'm curious, your guidance includes the run-off of the sequester and some of the other programs under the previous stimulus bill. But I'm just curious, what are you hearing and are seeing out of the Biden administration and their COVID relief bill? Is it your belief that any of these existing programs like sequester, relief, DRG payment add-ons, any of those have a possibility of actually being extended under this legislation?

And then just back to the cash flow question. I'm curious if you do factor in the cash flow from ops and the capex and the NCI, I think you said $600 million or $700 million, but you also said you called out Conifer several times as being a big contributor to that. So I'm just curious of that net number, that $600 million or $700 million number, would you attribute half that to Conifer? A quarter of that? Any kind of color there, I would appreciate. Thank you.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

All right. So, there's two questions there. On the administration, look, I don't think we have the crystal ball to answer all your questions about -- that you just asked about the administration. If we did, we'd be in much better mindset than we are. We just don't know. We obviously spend a lot of time trying to sort through the messages that are coming out, but I think there is currently just a lot of cloud covered by the vaccine, vaccine distribution, what's going to happen in COVID, how fast the changes that are being made seemingly every week in terms of the plan, in terms of how they're going to deal with it. These other noise points, I don't think have totally surfaced yet enough for us to get a really clear fix. But clearly our government affairs team, which is very good, is spending time on that and working with the federation, etc. So I think all I can say, Frank, honestly, is more to follow, but I don't want to venture a guess to that thing [Phonetic].

Dan, do you want to talk about the free cash flow question?

Daniel Cancelmi -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. Hey, Frank. In terms of, as I mentioned in my remarks, when you -- even when you consider the cash NCI payments to our minority partners, predominantly in our ambulatory business, we're going to generate free cash flow of about $700 million, which provides again a lot of optionality and I would tell you the key drivers of -- that's the aggregate net cash generation anticipated by the business. Conifer's a big part of that. They did a great job in 2020. Really driving improved cash collection performance in the midst of the pandemic and in midst of incredible hurdles and obstacles. We expect that to continue. Very impressed with how the year closed out from a cash perspective. There's also -- we got to do better. We know that. We're going to continue to drive on that, but yeah, Conifer will be a big part of that in terms of helping us to continue to enhance our free cash flow generation.

Frank Morgan -- RBC Capital Markets -- Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Whit Mayo with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Whit Mayo -- UBS -- Analyst

Thanks. Just have two quick ones here. Looking at the portfolio mix that you outlined for 2023 on Slide 6, does the 35% coming from acute contemplate additional divestitures? And does the 50% from USPI contemplate any larger than normal acquisitions? And the last question I have is, I think you have one last put call outstanding on the USPI with Baylor. Is that something that we should be considering for 2021? Thanks.

Daniel Cancelmi -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. Hey, Whit, it's Dan. Good morning. Yeah, in terms of the mix, in driving the ambulatory portfolio to 50% of the enterprisewide earnings. We will continue to invest appropriately in that business, whether it's $200 million a year or if the right opportunities are there, we will invest more than the $200 million. We'll not going to say there is one specific transaction we said that's going to happen, and that's what's embedded in there. But we believe that the pipeline is robust, and we're going to continue to pursue opportunities that makes sense economically. So, I would say generally speaking, and Ron mentioned in his remarks, we'll continue to look at the hospital portfolio. You could see some instances where it may make sense to redeploy some hospital capital and into the ambulatory business. So that will be part of equation.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I'll just add to that. Look, obviously, we're not going to get specific. It's not good business. I think Tenet had a history of getting specific and then getting killed, especially on the hospital side. So if we reach definitive agreements and there is things we want to -- things that need to be announced, we'll announce them, but we are active. We are actively looking at everything. We've said that for the last couple of years and I think we've proven that we're doing it.

So we're actively looking at hospitals that makes sense. Do they fit? Do they not fit? And how long will they fit? We have people that spend a lot of time on this. And the same on the USPI side, which I think Brett, who is sitting here, would comment on that. We are very engaged in looking at everything. But you've got to look at price, you've got to look at the market, you've got to look at what you think is going to happen next. So as we get to the point of closing in on something, then we'll announce it and before -- other than that, I think you just got to look at our track record and realize it we are not limited by capital in terms of making decisions relative to USPI, if it makes sense.

And at the same time, we're not married to any of our systems. Our systems have to stand on their own and have to provide us with returns, etc. that we think. We also aren't against adding things to our systems. Rock Hill, I think is a great example of that. San Antonio market, we're looking at things. I mean, where there is things to do, Fort Mill -- not Rock Hill, Fort Mill I guess, which is right there. We're building that hospital, that small hospital. Those are valuable additions to a very strong portfolio on the hospital side. So we are going to continue to be thoughtful about that.

Same in Conifer by the way. If there is something we want to add to Conifer that makes sense, we'll do it, even before it spins. Our goal is to strengthen and muscle strengthen all of our portfolios. And then I think you had a question, Brett, that you were going to deal with.

Brett Brodnax -- President and CEO of USPI

Hey, Whit. Hope all is well. This is Brett. Yeah, as we discussed related to the put call -- Baylor put call in the past, I think we disclosed this in the SEC filing. The first tranche of the put call option with Baylor becomes effective in April of this year. And of course, we'll be discussing that with Baylor and keep the investors updated at the appropriate time. But our assumptions in 2021 assumes the status quo on Baylor's ownership in USPI.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

They're a great partner and we're very satisfied with the relationship.

Brett Brodnax -- President and CEO of USPI

Absolutely.

Whit Mayo -- UBS -- Analyst

Okay, thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Josh Raskin with Nephron Research. Please proceed with your question.

Josh Raskin -- Nephron Research -- Analyst

Thanks. Sticking with the ASC side, does the recent SCD acquisition change the trajectory of either development or de novo or M&A in the next year or so? Meaning, does this increase your pipeline, potentially accelerate new centers, or are you more concentrated on the integration? And then sort of last part would be, can you just remind us your strategy and where that's evolved around working with other non-Tenet health systems to develop their ASC footprint?

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Brett, go ahead. I was just going to be say that our strategy is the strategy we've talked about.

Saum Sutaria -- President and Chief Operating Officer

Yeah, let me make a couple of high level comments. Josh, this is Saum. And then, I'm going to pass it to Brett. First of all, I would -- I personally I would step back and say, it's the track record that USPI has developed with physicians and building successful partnerships with physicians that actually enabled the SCD transaction. That is -- and so therefore, the success of that transaction and what we do with it and it's performing very well so far, will only strengthen what I think has been USPI's distinctiveness for the better part of a decade or more in terms of its ability to have those kinds of relationships with physicians that are very successful.

We noted at the time that we presented the transaction to the marketplace that this also expanded -- again an existing strategy, but expanded a strategy of two-way partnerships in addition to what has historically been a very, very strong foundation of three-way partnerships with other not-for-profit, non-Tenet based health systems with really the most distinctive health system brand names around the country.

That work continues. It doesn't change in terms of the expansion in those partnerships and even new partners that continue to come to the table, but I do think that increasing the option pool for USPI in two-way partnerships and the robust pipeline of de novos that the team has built based upon the integration work that we've done with Tenet, creates a platform for future growth that is much, much more attractive than perhaps a few years ago.

Brett, I don't know if you...

Brett Brodnax -- President and CEO of USPI

No, no. Saum, well said. And the only other thing, Josh, I would add and I think your point was, are we going to get distracted based on the integration of the SCD facilities, when we think about our M&A for 2021? And the reality is that we did a significant amount of pre kind of integration planning prior to closing. As a result of that, the integration is going very smoothly and we continue to hit key milestones from an integration perspective. So I don't think that's going to be a distraction. That work stream is moving very well and very smoothly. Obviously during Q4, we spent a lot of time on the SCD transaction. At the same time, we continue to focus on building our pipeline going into 2021, so it's robust for both acquisitions and de novos. And as a result of that, I think we're well positioned to have a strong year from an M&A perspective in 2021. And of course, we will be building the pipeline for 2022 as well throughout the year.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think it's important that we realize our development focus, our integration focus, our operating focus. I mean they're not mutually exclusive right. I mean we are operating, and we are integrating without regard to slowing down or changing our development focus, which is a machine on its own. So...

Brett Brodnax -- President and CEO of USPI

Correct.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

One more?

Daniel Cancelmi -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Two more.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Okay.

Operator

Our next question comes from A.J. Rice with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.

A.J. Rice -- Credit Suisse -- Analyst

Thanks. Hi everybody. I may go back to just a couple of things on Conifer real quick. Part of their revenue is tied to claims processing and revenue of the underlying hospital customers, including yourselves into the extent that volumes are down year-to-year because of the COVID crisis and the deferrals and so forth. There could be a potential snapback, just as we return to normal. To what extent, if at all have you factored that into the Conifer outlook or does that sort of sit out there as upside potentially if that does play out?

And then the broader question on Conifer. Going back to Ron's prepared comments, you said that when you embarked on the spin-off, you guys went out and tested the waters from an acquisition, or a divestiture standpoint and people weren't willing to pay you for what you saw as the potential for margin improvement and cost savings. Obviously, it's two years later, almost at this point, or18 months later and you've still got another 12 to 18 months. I wonder are you laser-focused on the spin off or now that you've actually realized some of that upside, is it worth it or would you be open to testing them -- testing the waters again and seeing if people pay you for now which you've actually accomplished?

Saum Sutaria -- President and Chief Operating Officer

Hey, A.J. This is Saum. Let me get started. And then I'll offer Ron and Dan a chance to comment in addition. Your question on the revenues and how that impacts Conifer is a very good one. Not all of our contracts at Conifer are revenue sensitive. And so, yes, there is some impact there, but it is factored into our guidance. Remember, it's -- because the services are end-to-end, the activity that Conifer pursues in the front and mid-cycle have a substantial effect in return for our clients, including Tenet. I mean, again, many of those are less revenue sensitive than others. But to answer your question directly, what revenue sensitivity there is, it's factored into the 2020 guidance.

And yeah, before I pass it off, the one thing I would say is I mean we're laser focused on creating value in Conifer. I mean, we see significant opportunity to expand our services, our point solution business for example in the eligibility, or small balance AR space has already hit the market. We have new clients and new expansion that we are in the midst of confirming right now. We believe that has a fair amount of runway. So, I would just think about what we're laser focused on in this period of time is expanding our Global Business Center, expanding our growth trajectory, taking those point solutions to market and managing our relationship with our largest customers where there may be expansion opportunities as they expand their portfolios.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

And I would just add that, look, we're a public company. If somebody shows up with a credible offer that's at a level that we think is appropriate as compared to the levels we saw in the past, realizing that, we've proven that the company has more growth, which we also still believe that's true. Then obviously, we consider -- I mean you have to consider whatever comes forward. I can't sit here and say we wouldn't consider things, we will. That's just the nature of the business.

But I'm not out looking to do that. I'm out -- as Saum said, we're out trying to stay focused on getting out of the pandemic, getting things back where there's some reliability in what's happening and going ahead and further in the growth at Conifer and doing the things that I mentioned in my remarks. So I hope that helps clarify the answer.

A.J. Rice -- Credit Suisse -- Analyst

Yes, that's good. Thanks a lot.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Sure, A.J. One more?

Daniel Cancelmi -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, one more.

Operator

The last question comes from Ralph Giacobbe at Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Hey, Ralph.

Ralph Giacobbe -- Citi -- Analyst

Thanks. Hey, thanks for letting me in. Can you maybe just discuss the labor line? It looks like you managed it pretty well in the fourth quarter. There have been more questions I think of late around higher wages as well as turnover and burn out. So maybe just want to understand how you've managed it and maybe what's embedded in guidance for '21. Thanks.

Daniel Cancelmi -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Hey, Ralph. It's Dan. I'll start and then turn it over to Saum. And when Saum was talking before about improvement in contract labor costs, he's being modest. Our contract labor cost came down quite a bit in the fourth quarter due to him and his team really managing it appropriately. So that was a key driver in terms of our labor management in the quarter.

Saum Sutaria -- President and Chief Operating Officer

Yeah, Ralph, only thing I would add is, as I said before, I mean we really took note of the fact that as the COVID surges happened in both April and July and August time frame, we stepped back with our operational and our clinical team and identified what were the things that really weren't patient care related that were causing us delays in being able to get patients back home or into other care settings that were more appropriate for them.

And you can imagine there is a myriad of things there. How rapidly we got patient safely out of the ICU, strengthening our relationship with our post-acute providers, strengthening up some of the things that we need to do in the home health environment to get patients home, if that was more appropriate. And so, those things in addition to other things. That was just an area of focus for us, obviously for the right reasons, patient care. But the collateral benefit of that is that we provided a bit of relief from the tight -- really tight nursing market.

Look, our nurses have done an incredible amount of work, day and night heroic. I can't say that we took all the stress off the situation, given how high the COVID environment had gotten, but we did our best to alleviate some of that pressure in the markets, given the work that they were doing. And it worked. I mean I think it shows up in the line items that you're looking at. We have to keep that focus going forward, if there are other COVID spikes.

Ralph Giacobbe -- Citi -- Analyst

All right. Thank you.

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

All right, operator. Thank you very much. I think that concludes our time.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks]

Duration: 73 minutes

Call participants:

Regina Nethery -- Vice President of Investor Relations

Ronald A. Rittenmeyer -- Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Daniel Cancelmi -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Saum Sutaria -- President and Chief Operating Officer

Brett Brodnax -- President and CEO of USPI

Kevin Fischbeck -- Bank of America -- Analyst

Pito Chickering -- Deutsche Bank -- Analyst

Justin Lake -- Wolfe Research -- Analyst

Jamie Perse -- Goldman Sachs -- Analyst

Frank Morgan -- RBC Capital Markets -- Analyst

Whit Mayo -- UBS -- Analyst

Josh Raskin -- Nephron Research -- Analyst

A.J. Rice -- Credit Suisse -- Analyst

Ralph Giacobbe -- Citi -- Analyst

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