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i3 Verticals Inc (NASDAQ:IIIV)
Q2 2021 Earnings Call
May 11, 2021, 8:30 a.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the i3 Verticals Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Today's call is being recorded, and a replay will be available starting today through May 18. The number for the replay is 412-317-0088, and the code is 10155829. The replay may also be accessed for 30-days at the Company's website.

At this time, for opening remarks, I would like to turn the call over to Scott Meriwether, Chief Operating Officer. Please go ahead.

Scott Meriwether -- Chief Operating Officer

Good morning and welcome to the second quarter 2021 conference call for i3 Verticals.

Joining me on this call are Greg Daily, our Chairman and CEO; Clay Whitson, our CFO; and Rick Stanford, our President. To the extent any non-GAAP financial measures discussed in today's call, you will also find a reconciliation of that measure to the most directly comparable financial measure calculated according to GAAP by reviewing yesterday's earnings release. It is the Company's intent to provide non-GAAP financial information to enhance understanding of its consolidated financial information as prepared in accordance with GAAP. This non-GAAP information should be considered by each individual in addition to, but not instead of, the financial statements prepared in accordance with GAAP.

This conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 including statements among others regarding the Company's expected financial and operating performance and the expected and potential impact of COVID-19 pandemic. For this purpose, any statements made during this call that are not statements of historical fact, may be deemed to be forward-looking statements. You are hereby cautioned that these forward-looking statements may be affected by the important factors among others set forth in the Company's earnings release and in reports that are filed or furnished to the SEC including risk and uncertainties associated with the COVID-19 pandemic. Consequently, actual operations and results may differ materially from the results discussed in the forward-looking statements.

Finally, the information shared on this call is valid as of today's date and the Company undertakes no obligation to update it except as may be required under applicable law.

I'll now turn the call over to the Company's Chairman and CEO, Greg Daily.

Greg Daily -- Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Scott and good morning to all of you.

We are pleased to report our second quarter 2021 results as we set new record highs across the board. Our net revenue, adjusted EBITDA, software revenue, payment volume and integrated volume were all at new highs. We exited the quarter with incredible momentum and are excited about what the future holds. Despite facing a more difficult year-over-year comparison as the pandemic did not affect our business until mid-March 2020, we demonstrated substantial growth in 2020. We could not be more pleased with what we delivered in the second quarter as our adjusted net revenue increased 26% to $49.4 million in the second quarter and our adjusted EBITDA increased 25% to $12.4 million, when compared to the second quarter of 2020.

Year-to-date, our software-related revenue has increased 36% -- to 36% of our net revenue and our recurring software revenue has more than doubled since the second quarter of 2020. 59% of our payment volume in the second quarter was integrated. Recurring revenues represent more than 80% of our net revenues. This is the first quarter that our adjusted EBITDA from proprietary software segment exceeded the adjusted EBITDA from our Merchant Services segment. We are delivering on our software-based focused strategy and this quarter is a major milestone in our company's development. Our long-term vision is to be a leader in software and payments and we have been making major advancements in achieving our vision. In particular, public sector vertical delivered record growth. This vertical now represents around half of our company. I feel like we hit the nail in the head by betting big on this vertical. Our acquisitions in this space have been phenomenal and I'm continually impressed by the talent we have on our team.

The public sector vertical has tremendous opportunity for expansion both in technological spending and in payments. And we're in the right place at the right time. We expect the federal stimulus under the American Rescue Plan Act will accelerate software advancements within the public sector vertical and will provide significant opportunities for us to partner with our customers over the next few years.

The $350 billion available under this plan is available for both state and local governments, and our software meets many of the needs of the rescue plan was intended to help local governments address. We have a solid pipeline of projects to deliver to our customers and we anticipate the pipeline will continue to grow as our customers access the funds available to them under the rescue plan. We've seen an increased cross-selling products within public sector, as our product teams and our sales teams begin to converge.

For example, one of our Texas-based products has over 200 court customers in Texas. During 2021, this product has now been sold in Arkansas, Georgia and Ohio. This momentum in new states opens up hundreds of new court opportunities for this product. Additionally, one of our court case management systems has a significant presence in Georgia. During the past quarter, this software expanded into Alabama, Mississippi and has opened up new markets for us in that territory. We have also significantly expanded our geographic footprint within public sector. We now have statewide agency or court agreements in California, Texas, Michigan, Florida, Delaware, Alaska, Minnesota, Wyoming, Arizona, Kansas, North Carolina and Tennessee. Our public sector product teams have made great advancements and integrated many of our products such as law enforcement and paperless court products within our court platforms. We expect continued growth, as we increase our distribution of these integrated products.

We've been very busy on the M&A front this year, as we pursue our verticals-focused strategy. This quarter included two months of BIS, our largest acquisition to date and the first full quarter of ImageSoft. In April, we announced two acquisitions in the healthcare software space. We have now made three healthcare acquisitions. We're confident in our current product suite, which we will continue to develop, and we are looking forward to expanding our presence in that vertical. We most recently completed an acquisition of software in the utility space. This company serves Tier 1 sized customers and will marry nicely with our existing utility billing platform. Rick will provide more details on the most recent acquisition in a moment. We're excited about what we can achieve in that market going forward.

Across the rest of the Company, we saw continued improvement and reason for optimism. Our non-profit vertical continues to outperform expectations as it continues to contraction within Text-to-Give product. Our Merchant Services sector continues improvement sequentially quarter-over-quarter. Our education vertical saw an uptick, as more schools begin in-person scheduling. Although, this product remain -- although this vertical remains suppressed. Within the hospitality sector, we are the number one reseller in the NCR channel and recently have completed the largest Aloha Essentials installation in the history of that product. Overall, we saw a significant payment volume rebound in March and it continued in April and the first part of May. The progress in vaccinations and reduction in government-mandated restrictions had a direct effect on our customer base. As the restrictions continue to ease nationwide, we expect a continued recovery in our payments volume and revenue. We also anticipate software sales to accelerate from more in-person demos and trade shows. I cannot be more excited about the momentum that we carry into the close of our fiscal year.

Now, I'll turn the call over to Clay and he will provide some more details on our second quarter fiscal performance and then Clay will turn the call over to Rick for an M&A update.

Clay Whitson -- Chief Financial Officer

Thanks Greg. The following pertains to the second quarter of fiscal 2021 which is the three-month period ended March 31, 2021. Please refer to the press release and slide presentation titled Supplemental Information on our website for reference with this discussion.

We had a great quarter with record adjusted net revenues and adjusted EBITDA. For the second quarter ended in March, adjusted net revenues increased 26% to $49.4 million from $39.3 million for Q2 2020, reflecting organic growth and acquisitions. It feels great to cite a number like 26% again and to return to somewhat normal economic activity. Like most of our peers, we experienced a weak January and February with strong March and April. Almost all of our metrics we track are headed in the right direction.

For companies we've owned for at least two years, we have recently been comparing our monthly payment volumes to 2019 periods because 2020 comparisons have distortions stemming from the pandemic. For March and April, these companies increased volumes in the mid-20%. Our integrated payments percentage hit a new high of 59%, helping our adjusted net revenue yield improved to 116 basis points for the quarter from 110 basis points for Q2 2020.

Adjusted net revenue yield is defined as adjusted net revenues divided by payment volume. Software and related services continued strong growth, representing 36% percent of adjusted net revenues for the first half compared to 23% for the first half of fiscal 2020, reflecting the heavy software weighting of recent acquisitions. This percentage gained despite the beginnings of a rebound in payments. Acquisitions, almost exclusively in the Proprietary Software segment, contributed $11 million to growth and adjusted net revenues for the second quarter. i3 or IPOS declined $1 million, reflecting not only the COVID impact in California, but also our ongoing transition to a SaaS offering. The purchased portfolios declined $0.3 million.

Adjusted EBITDA increased 25%, in line with adjusted net revenues to $12.4 million for Q2 2021 from $10 million for Q2 2020. The March quarter marked a milestone in our history when the adjusted EBITDA from our Proprietary Software segment surpassed the contribution from the Merchant Services segment. Our Proprietary segment continues to be the growth engine for the future. Corporate expenses increased about $500,000 in Q2 2021 compared to Q2 2020, reflecting higher compensation costs, but increased at a slower pace than adjusted net revenues leading to a decline in the expense ratio from 8.2% for Q2 2020 to 7.5% for Q2 2021.

We had a one-time gain of $2.4 million we recognized in Q2 from a minority investment in a company named AxiaMed. We invested $100,000 in 2016 and received cash from the sale of $2.5 million in early April. We have excluded this gain from adjusted revenues, adjusted EBITDA, and pro forma adjusted diluted EPS. Pro forma adjusted diluted earnings per share increased to $0.23 for Q2 2021 from $0.20 for Q2 2020. Again, please refer to the press release and supplemental slide presentation for a full description and reconciliation.

Segment performance. In our Proprietary Software and Payments segment, adjusted net revenues increased 70% to $24 million for Q2 2021 from $14.1 million for Q2 2020, principally reflecting growth in our flagship public sector vertical. The results included ImageSoft for a full quarter and BIS, our largest acquisition to date for two months. Our non-profit vertical continued to outperform expectations with its text-to-give technology and healthcare turned in a solid performance. Adjusted EBITDA increased 47% to $8.6 million for Q2 2021 from $5.8 million for Q2 2020, reflecting mainly public sector growth, but also the non-profit and healthcare acquisitions.

For Q2, public sector represented over 90% of adjusted EBITDA in the segment. The adjusted EBITDA margin fell to 36% for Q2 2021 from 41% for Q2 2020 reflecting a drop in education profitability and the inclusion of ImageSoft, which carries a margin below 20%. As expected, the margin did improve sequentially from 30% in Q1 with the inclusion of BIS, which carries a margin close to 50%. The one laggard in the segment remains education. Although schools are beginning to return to the classroom, the USDA has extended its free lunch program for all students through next year. Going forward, we will need to rely more on software revenues and non-lunch fee payments, but we believe education will return as a high-growth vertical. Fortunately, public sector is by far our largest vertical and is over performing sufficiently to overshadow any weakness in education. With the resumption of trade shows and in-person demos we think every vertical in our Proprietary segment has a room to run.

Net revenues for our Merchant Services segment increased 1% to $26.1 million for Q2 2021 from $25.7 million for Q2 2020. The numbers for Merchant Services were muted for the quarter, but they masked an underlying trend. January and February were weak, while March and April have been strong. Vaccination progress and less government-mandated restrictions have favorably impacted our customer base. Beginning in March, California resumed permitting indoor dining with a phased occupancy approach and our SaaS transition in hospitality is progressing more successfully than expected. We think the transition will ultimately lead to a better business model with more favorable competitive positioning and better profit margins.

Our B2B vertical has been resilient during the pandemic that has benefited in March and April from higher activity in its customer base. Adjusted EBITDA for our Merchant Services segment increased 3% to $7.6 million for Q2 2021 from $7.3 million for Q2 2020. The adjusted EBITDA margin was 29% for Q2 2021 versus 28.5% for Q2 2020, reflecting higher revenues in relation to fixed costs.

Balance sheet. Our strong balance sheet has allowed us to continue to execute our acquisition strategy. On March 31, we had $83 million net of cash borrowed under our revolver which is a $275 million facility. The face value of our convertible notes are $117 million. Our total leverage ratio at quarter end which includes the convertible notes was 3.8 times, while the current constraint is 5 times. After quarter end, we have paid approximately $37 million for three acquisitions. The multiple pay-in on the three acquisitions conformed to less than 10 times adjusted EBITDA. We expect our total leverage ratio to remain below 4 times for fiscal Q3, our June quarter. The interest rate for the convertible notes are 1%, while the interest rate for the revolver is currently less than 4%. Over time, we expect to convert roughly two-thirds of adjusted EBITDA into free cash flow which can either be used for more acquisitions or debt repayment.

Outlook. Looking forward, we have increased our outlook for fiscal 2021. It excludes future acquisitions and transaction-related costs and adjusts for writedowns of deferred software revenues in connection with purchase accounting. Adjusted net revenues $204 million to $220 million, adjusted EBITDA $52 million to $58 million, depreciation and internally developed software amortization $4.25 million to $4.5 million. Cash interest expense $4.75 million to $5.25 million, pro forma adjusted diluted shares $33 million to $34 million, pro forma adjusted diluted EPS $0.98 to $1.08.

From a vertical standpoint, we have not updated our percentages this quarter, but wanted to highlight that our public sector vertical remains the clear leader representing roughly half of our current business and over half of our acquisition pipeline. Healthcare has become our second largest vertical resulting from three acquisitions during the past year that all lead with software. Changes to our presentation. In response to the pandemic and discontinuing guidance last spring, our supplemental presentations included monthly charts of payment volume and software revenues. We've now resumed guidance and feel like the economy is more stable and predictable now, so we have discontinued the monthly data.

We have one more change that will commence next quarter, our fiscal Q3 ending in June. We have historically always included in our reported adjusted net revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and pro forma adjusted diluted EPS and add back to reverse the effect of purchase accounting writedowns of deferred revenue in connection with software acquisitions. We have also always included an estimate of this same adjustment excluding future acquisitions and our guidance for adjusted net revenue adjusted EBITDA and pro forma adjusted diluted EPS.

The earnings release we issued last night which includes the guidance I just mentioned includes this adjustment to these metrics, consistent with our historical approach. Our historical practice has been based on a belief that such an adjustment was a necessary for investors to understand an acquisition performance in the first year and its true growth in the second year. The adjustment is consistent with the treatment and the financial covenants of our senior secured credit facility as well as adjustments made by some of our peer companies and their disclosures. However, as part of the ordinary course SEC common process we have agreed with the SEC to discontinue adjusting net revenue, EBITDA, and pro forma diluted EPS to remove the effect of purchase accounting writedowns of deferred revenue, beginning with our third fiscal quarter ending June 30.

As a result of this change, in the third quarter earnings release, we will present adjusted net revenue, adjusted EBITDA and pro forma diluted -- pro forma adjusted diluted EPS without the impact of this add-back for the three months and the nine months ended. As we believe the adjustment continues to represent material information to investors, we will continue to provide separately as part of our earnings release, the non-GAAP revenue omitted as a result of the purchase accounting writedown of deferred revenue. We will also continue to provide an estimate of this amount for the remainder of the fiscal year, along with our outlook. Please refer to the final slide in the presentation titled Supplemental Information on our website for an illustration of how the presentation will change in the third quarter.

I'll now turn the call over to Rick for an update on the Company and M&A activity.

Rick Stanford -- President

Thank you, Clay. Good morning everyone. I'll start this morning with an update on a few operational items including updates on things I've addressed on previous calls. We continue to make steady progress on our unified product offering or UPO in our public sector vertical. We have recently designed a cohesive product category marketing package for use across all public sector entities. This marketing package will assist with client education and cross selling efforts.

There are three levels of cross-selling: one, our direct sales team marketing to and coordinating solution sales across entities; two, key product category additions by unit ensuring new product categories are embraced at the unit level and are supported across all multiple entities, for example, kiosks that came with the BIS acquisition are being deployed across multiple product categories by multiple entities; and three embedded proprietary software. We are embedding i3 Verticals proprietary software into core offerings and seamlessly bundling them as part of city, county and state solutions. We can already see this working. The past quarter we secured contracts in five new states. Contracts in three of the five new states were driven by UPO activity. We are motivated and excited by these early UPO win and our cross-selling continues to pick up stream.

On the ISV front, our total number of signed and integrated ISVs at the end of the second fiscal quarter was 78 with three more in the process of integration. Our pipeline for ISVs continues to grow quarter-over-quarter and we're actively pursuing additional integrations. I'll now speak relative to our M&A efforts. On Monday April 5, we announced two additional acquisitions in our Healthcare vertical. The first acquisition is of the business based in the upper Midwest that provides software and services in multiple states to healthcare customers.

The software improves operational efficiencies, so customers can securely access patient information and streamline the process from admittance to discharge. Their solution accelerators are designed to optimize business processes and drive digital transformation. Their products include accounts payable, accounts receivable, contract management and human resources. The second acquisition is of a business that offers medical practice management software and other related solutions to its customers. This 30-year-old business is headquartered in the Southeast and serves customers across the country. Their products include a practice management system, revenue cycle management, a patient payment portal, inventory management and appointment reminders. As you know, many of our recent acquisitions have been in the public sector vertical. However, these two April acquisitions with a combined 51 individuals will help us build momentum in our existing healthcare vertical, which is an extremely large market that we would like to develop further as we move forward.

Yesterday, we announced our latest acquisition. This business is located on the East Coast and has customers across the country. This is a public sector deal with a focus on utilities, specifically gas, power and water. Notably, they have some of the largest utility companies Tier 1 companies across the country in major metropolitan areas. This deal brings with it several additional products to cross-sell into our existing utility line of business. The company is 18 years old and comes with 45 employees and 53 contractors. Their product and services include a deep customer portal for improved customer experience. They specialize in cutting-edge digital engagement.

A CSR product that allows for optimization and life extension for utilities' existing CIS or Customer Information System, mobile application development that is device agnostic, CIS data integration between multiple meter vendors, back-end systems and portals, financial balancing and rate case analysis and mobile service order dispatching. We continue to be disciplined in our approach and all three deals were completed within our standard multiple range.

Finally, our M&A pipeline is still very healthy and has an emphasis on public sector, healthcare, non-profit and education, and we look forward to sharing more on the acquisition front in the near term.

This concludes my comments, Andrea. At this time, we'll open the call for Q&A please.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

We'll now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from John Davis of Raymond James. Please go ahead.

John Davis -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Hey. Good morning, guys. Yeah, I think first, I wanted to start on April -- March and April trends versus 2019. I think if I heard you right, Clay, you said mid-20s growth on a two-year stack basis. So, that would kind of imply a meaningful acceleration from what you guys have historically grown organically in the high single digits? I'm just wondering where the strength is? How much of you think it's stimulus driven? And do you expect maybe 10% type growth on the other side of this or just any kind of commentary on current trends would be great.

Clay Whitson -- Chief Financial Officer

Well, it's hard to know how much stimulus had to do with this. This year for the -- during -- when we're comparing the COVID periods, I think it won't be difficult to have double-digit growth. The question is when we lap these current periods, a year from now, what will growth would be? And our target is double digit. We've continued to guide to -- on a long-term basis to high single digit, but that could change as that -- those time periods come into view.

John Davis -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And then just on the net revenue yield. Obviously, you guys are shifting more toward software. I think if I look back at 2020, it was about 105 basis points. I think it came in at 116 basis points this quarter. I think some volume comes back, maybe that normalizes, but is it right to think that that net revenue yield should be higher or potentially creep higher over time maybe not at 116 basis points but maybe 110 basis points to 115 basis points on a normalized basis given all the addition of software revenue?

Clay Whitson -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. I don't see any reason for it not to. In fact, this quarter we had a fair amount of ACH associated with back-to-school at our University without which we would have had a little bit better yield this quarter.

John Davis -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Okay. And then, Greg, you talked a lot about the American Rescue Plan Act and all this money sitting out there. How long do you think it will be before those governments actually get the money and more importantly start implementing the upgrades where you could see the revenue? Is this something that is like six months to 12 months out, 12 months to 24 months? Just curious how quickly you think you'll start seeing some revenue from it?

Greg Daily -- Chief Executive Officer

I think we'll see some by the end of the year. It's -- we're -- we contacted all of our customers when it first came out and they didn't even know about it. That's been seven or eight weeks ago. It's been dramatic, the increase in activity in the last three weeks. So, I think the end of the year will be very busy for us. And then there'll be a second tranche probably as early as next spring.

John Davis -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Okay. And then last one for me guys. Clay, just remind us I think when you updated education, I think it was 5% EBITDA last quarter. And I think historically you said lunches were maybe 50% of revenue in that sector. So just curious A, just want to double check those numbers and also want to clarify the free lunch program has been extended through next school year or just through the end of this calendar year?

Clay Whitson -- Chief Financial Officer

Through the next school year. And to give you an idea of size, this quarter our education group had about $2.5 million of net revenues and about a little over $600,000 of EBITDA. So, it's become a pretty small part of our company now. It'd be even less than 5% today with government going up a little and healthcare going up. But it is -- that level is about the trend, we expect for the next several quarters. Well, opposite lunch, which -- absent lunch, which is -- I mean absent the summer months, which schools are empty, but we don't really see that changing meaningfully for the fourth quarter for example.

John Davis -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Okay, all right. Thanks guys.

Operator

The next question comes from Peter Heckmann of D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Peter Heckmann -- D.A. Davidson -- Analyst

Hey, good morning. I just wanted to get a little bit more color if you could on signing up new independent software vendors. How does the increase in i3's proprietary software play? Does that increase the attractiveness of integrating for some vendors? And conversely for some vendors, is it a negative point in that they view as partially competition?

Greg Daily -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Peter. We haven't seen any disruption in our ability to sign up ISVs. They don't see us as a competitor. As a matter of fact, our technology infrastructure is seen as a positive, the things that we can bring to the table for them. So, we're not getting any pushback, if that's what you're meaning to say.

Peter Heckmann -- D.A. Davidson -- Analyst

Yeah. That was right. I was trying to figure out if there were some that viewed it as a bit of a conflict or conversely do others view it as an advantage and maybe a better reason to integrate with i3 versus maybe another vendor.

Greg Daily -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Again, it's all about the technology. Our verticals are so large. I don't think that -- I'm not on the ground every day, but I haven't heard any pushback from our ISV partners to date.

Peter Heckmann -- D.A. Davidson -- Analyst

Great. Great. And then Clay, just on the deferred revenue writedown figure, does that include the three deals that have been announced so far in the fiscal third quarter?

Clay Whitson -- Chief Financial Officer

The guidance we gave does include the -- if you look at the last page of the supplemental information, we gave an estimate for the entire year and it does include the three deals we just announced.

Peter Heckmann -- D.A. Davidson -- Analyst

Got it. Okay. That's helpful.

Operator

The next question comes from George Mihalos of Cowen. Please go ahead.

George Mihalos -- Cowen -- Analyst

Hey, guys. Good morning and congrats on the solid results. Clay, you touched on this and I think you answered it, but just as a point of clarification, if we just look at the payment volume within Proprietary Software, that increased more than two times sequentially. I understand there's probably some BIS volume in there, but it also sounds like maybe you had a big contribution on the education side from higher education. I'm just curious can you kind of break that out for us to give us a sense of what drove that increase? And it also sounds like sequentially, the revenue yield should go up in the segment as we go into the third quarter. Is that a fair assessment?

Clay Whitson -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. So, last quarter or the second quarter of 2020, we only had $44 million of ACH volume in that segment. And this quarter 2021, we had $196 million in that segment. And that's the back-to-school activity for the university, which happens twice a year. So yeah, I think it is fair revenue yield could go up this coming quarter.

George Mihalos -- Cowen -- Analyst

Okay. Thank you. Thank you for that. And then just another follow-up just sort of sticking to the Education vertical. I know Rick, you mentioned I think Education was sort of third in line as you were talking about prospects within the pipeline. I'm just curious, are you guys -- you guys want to do an education acquisition, given the -- I guess uncertainty or pressure next year on school lunches or are you guys looking to potentially go after something catering more to private schools or more higher education? I guess, are you looking at something beyond kind of the core market that you've serviced in the past?

Rick Stanford -- President

Yeah, it's a good question, George. As I think about the pipeline and the prospects that are in it, there's no lunch today. Most of it is what I would call marketplace, which is other payments that take place in the school, whether it's K-12, private. And then, there's ancillary products that we wanted to have for several years now like nutritional software and that sort of thing. So, I can't think of one that has lunch today. That doesn't mean we won't talk to them, but I don't see that being an issue with what we've got in our pipe today.

George Mihalos -- Cowen -- Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And just one last one. Clay, if you can break out for us the percent of revenue today that is non-payments related so license fee or Saas? Thank you. And I'll hop off, guys.

Clay Whitson -- Chief Financial Officer

Okay. For the -- well, I think we gave -- yes, we gave 36% as a six months number for software revenues, 57% were payment revenues for the six months and 7% were in the other category equipment or things of that nature. Is that what you were looking for, George?

George Mihalos -- Cowen -- Analyst

Yeah. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Chris Donat of Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Chris Donat -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Good morning, gentlemen, thanks for taking my questions. Just wanted to think about the ACH volume from education going forward. Is it safe to use that $196 million number from the quarter and just kind of like a ballpark -- with a reasonable ballpark assumption to be that you'll get sort of the incremental $200 million bump every other quarter because of tuition-related payments? Is that a safe way to think about it or am I thinking about it wrong?

Greg Daily -- Chief Executive Officer

No, that's exactly right. One of them happens in January and one of them happens a little bit July, but mainly August, so in the -- our fiscal fourth quarter.

Chris Donat -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Okay. And then, with sort of the economic recovery and getting back to in-person sales and trade shows, do you expect sort of a step function in sales here, or is this going to be more of a gradual thing, as you're calling on customers who might not have been willing to take meetings or is it really a dramatic change in what's going on with your customers there?

Greg Daily -- Chief Executive Officer

I feel like the last 30 days has been like a rock concert and I think that will continue for six more months. So, obviously, a little pent-up demand, but we have increased our offering through acquisitions and different -- the work that we've done internally, added salespeople. So, it's been crazy the last 30 days and I don't see it slowing down till Thanksgiving.

Chris Donat -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Okay. Sorry, I'm just trying to convert rock concert into my model, but I'll figure it out.

Greg Daily -- Chief Executive Officer

It's huge.

Chris Donat -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Yes, it sounds good and it's good to hear. And then, just last question from me on a -- from a modeling perspective, as we look at the GAAP income statement. In the quarter you had a downtick from the fiscal first quarter in other cost of revenues, but an uptick, a pretty meaningful one in SG&A. Just anything to call out there? Is that more of the timing acquisitions and where they're landing on different expense lines or anything else?

Greg Daily -- Chief Executive Officer

Well. Yeah, so BIS is more payment-oriented, less software-oriented. And so, that will impact some of those numbers and we'll get three months in the next quarter, not two months. On the corporate line you mentioned, we did resume bonus accruals this quarter. And have begun reinvesting in -- with some selective hires our -- some of our companies are getting concerned that they can't keep up with installations, if things continue at this pace. And so, we definitely want to enable any revenue we can. And so, we went through a year during COVID of being very tight with compensation and hires and we're beginning to reinvest now.

Chris Donat -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Okay. And then -- these hirings are, dealing more with implementations, not so much on the sales side, because it sounds like, if you will, that's where the rock concert is?

Greg Daily -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. It's a little bit across the board. We did lay off 12% of our staff last spring. And a lot of -- some of that was muscle. So, we've been putting people off for a year and we're just finally letting them make the hires they wanted to make.

Chris Donat -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Okay. Okay, that's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And the next question will come from Josh Beck of KBCM. Please go ahead.

Maddie Schrage -- KBCM -- Analyst

Hey. This is Maddie Schrage on for Josh. First, I was wondering, if you guys could talk about the timeline that you expect the American Rescue Plan Act to provide a tailwind on your government modernization projects? And secondly, I was wondering, if you could provide an update on how you expect the vertical mix to evolve this coming year. Thanks.

Clay Whitson -- Chief Financial Officer

So, on the stimulus money, we're thinking for the end of the year, the December quarter, it's hard to really predict exact, but we are seeing more RFPs, more demos, more close sales that usually takes us, three months to six months to install. And so I think, you'll see that quarter pick-up. And it should continue for the whole year of 2022. Our software package is very well received with our existing customers, new customers. So we're optimistic, I think, we'll know a lot more, by the end of our June quarter.

Rick Stanford -- President

For the second part of your question, I think, next year you'll see more public sector deals. Over 50% of our pipeline is public sector. We did I think eight deals, in eight months -- in the last eight months and six of those were public sector too in healthcare. So I'm looking for that momentum in public sector to continue.

Greg Daily -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think public sector will be at least 60%, especially until education bounces back, and so, that will change a little bit. It's all good.

Maddie Schrage -- KBCM -- Analyst

Super helpful. Thanks guys.

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Greg Daily for any closing remarks.

Greg Daily -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, guys for joining us this morning. We do feel as if the pandemic is over. We're seeing momentum in all of our verticals, except education, but thank you for your interest and stay tuned. Thank you.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks]

Duration: 47 minutes

Call participants:

Scott Meriwether -- Chief Operating Officer

Greg Daily -- Chief Executive Officer

Clay Whitson -- Chief Financial Officer

Rick Stanford -- President

John Davis -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Peter Heckmann -- D.A. Davidson -- Analyst

George Mihalos -- Cowen -- Analyst

Chris Donat -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Maddie Schrage -- KBCM -- Analyst

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