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Stock Market Apocalypse: Coming Soon?

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The euphoric stock market rally that rocketed us off the lows of the crash has come to an abrupt, painful end. Talking about a "V-shaped" recovery is now one of the fastest ways to end up the butt of jokes. Stocks have once more fallen out of favor, replaced by gold, ammo, and farmland.

Of course, folks better have some farmland and ammo, if the predictions of Elliot Wave International's Robert Prechter come true. Last Friday, The New York Times covered Prechter's apocalyptic view:

The Dow, which now stands at 9,686.48, is likely to fall well below 1,000 over perhaps five or six years as a grand market cycle comes to an end, [Prechter] said. That unraveling, combined with a depression and deflation, will make anyone holding cash "extremely grateful for their prudence."

"Grateful for their prudence" is a massive understatement, since 10% unemployment would likely be positively enviable at Dow 1,000, and extra cash would be invaluable for purchasing necessities like food. That is, if the currency even has value at that point. Otherwise, the only prudent people would now be pulling their money out of stocks and putting it into cows, chickens, and cornfields.

But perhaps it's easy to shake off Prechter's bleak prediction. I'm about as likely to rely on Elliott wave theory -- which underpins much of Prechter's work -- for my investing as I am to rely on Miss Cleo for my love life. Indeed, The Hulbert Financial Digest found that Prechter's guidance has actually led to market underperformance since 1980.

A bull gets bearish
However, I paid closer attention to the recent abrupt about-face from Wall Street mainstay and manager of the Traxis Partners hedge fund, Barton Biggs.

Back in March, I covered some of Biggs' bullish sentiments, which centered on his expectation that the market would gain another 10% to 15% by year's end, and that large-cap technology names like Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT  ) and Cisco (Nasdaq: CSCO  ) were some of the best bets available.

Fast-forward to last week, when those bullish sentiments seemed long gone. In an interview on Bloomberg Television, Biggs said:

I sold stocks pretty aggressively in the U.S., and we had a lot in tech ... I've taken basically all of it out in the U.S., and we had a broader exposure to consumer stocks and just, in general, I've reduced my net long position by about 30 or 40 percentage points.

At the end of March, Traxis had nearly 17% of the fund in the tech-heavy PowerShares QQQ (Nasdaq: QQQQ  ) and another 8% in the iShares S&P 100. The fund also held positions in a laundry list of individual large-cap U.S. stocks, including roughly 6% of the fund in Cisco, EMC (NYSE: EMC  ) , VMWare, Microsoft, and Google (Nasdaq: GOOG  ) -- all of which have presumably been jettisoned.

That'd be quite a change in direction in just three months. That is, if it actually happened over three months. In fact, Biggs had this to say to Bloomberg just three days prior:

"I'm definitely not a seller," Biggs told Bloomberg News on June 29. "All things considered, I'm going to stay where I am unless the market really comes down some more. Then I'd be inclined to be a buyer."

Sure, he did also say "I can change my mind very quickly." And sure, I believe in John Maynard Keynes' quip, "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"

But three days? Really?

Just as confused as the rest of us
Though Biggs' track record probably earns him the benefit of the doubt, it's hard not to see his rapid about-face as a sign that many big-time investing veterans are having as much trouble figuring this market out as the rest of us.

Certainly, economic data hasn't been helping. While most data points look much better today than they did in early 2009, the direction and speed in which they're moving looks a bit worrisome. And with the government engaged in a stimulus-austerity tug-of-war, it's impossible to say whether the economy will be flooded with government cheese, or whether Washington will be ripping up its checkbooks.

Yet I still find it very hard to get on board with sellers like Biggs and start unloading my portfolio. As my fellow Fool Morgan Housel pointed out yesterday, corporate profits have been very strong. While an economic pinch could stunt further growth, it seems like the market has been particularly harsh in pricing in a potential profit slide.

While Biggs and others have been scared out of the market by the recent declines, I hang on the view that the risk in stocks declines as prices drop. That means I've been getting a bit giddy watching the S&P slump 15%-plus over the past couple of months. With solid blue-chip companies like ExxonMobil (NYSE: XOM  ) and Hewlett-Packard (NYSE: HPQ  ) now fetching single-digit forward P/E multiples, and a great many stocks sporting attractive dividend yields, now seems like a good time to be getting more interested in stocks -- not less so.

Does Barton Biggs have the right idea? Should we all be running for the hills? Head down to the comments section and share your thoughts.

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  • Report this Comment On July 07, 2010, at 4:51 PM, gfbjohn wrote:

    The market is responding to a "jobless recovery". What that phrase intimates is that the economy is missing a major segment's economic votes - people with no money cannot spend to induce more production of what people actually want. It is time to start experimenting to create a new type of system that:

    - proactively aggregates actual demand, based on what people would buy if they had big money,

    - provides tools to determine and design the infrastructure (robotics, energy, communications, medicine, etc.) to yield such a panacea, and

    - provides the training to help produce that infrastructure.

    Our current system passively (laissez faire and all that) puts demand behind supply - we wait for businesses to make their best guesses as to how people will spend income, and that is what they gear their production to supply. This would be OK if we all already had and spent big money to register our economic votes what to produce. In fact far too many are unemployed or under-employed in predominantly piddly-paying service jobs (particularly the estimated 37% of the Gen Y's). If people thought their efforts would garner the type of life they could register that they want, they might just be more motivated to participate more wholeheartedly.

    As thinking, "rational" beings with technology of dizzyingly great potential at our command, it is an abysmal failure of our kind that there is so much poverty and hunger, that the US deficit is ballooning the national debt to the point where the interest is crippling today (and will be catastrophic in the near future when we have to raise interest rates), that people have stopped caring about the future, that terrorists can point at the US with its ever-widening gap between haves and have-nots and claim we have a broken system because of these shortcomings.

  • Report this Comment On July 07, 2010, at 4:58 PM, plange01 wrote:

    the collapse has started....

  • Report this Comment On July 07, 2010, at 5:33 PM, TicoHombre wrote:

    gfbJohn

    You really should put more effort into speaking to people's hearts and stop trying to appear so stinking intelligent by your style of writing. It's a turnoff.

  • Report this Comment On July 07, 2010, at 5:50 PM, kedo76 wrote:

    Buy. The Dow will be over 14,000 by August 12, 2011, drop a little and then be aroung 15,000 by mid-2012. You can print this out and send me a "how did you ever know this? But in any case, Thank you!!" card later if you wish.

  • Report this Comment On July 07, 2010, at 6:41 PM, DDHv wrote:

    We have been doing: backyard garden; inexpensive hobbies; improving the house for lower heating & cooling costs; buying high MPG vehicles, also bikes for local usage; making things last until actually worn out; and investing where it makes sense. As a result, we are spending only about 50% of our gross income, and reinvesting about 25%. And just think, only fifteen years ago, our interest expenses ran around U$9,000/year! Economizing works better than anything else we've tried! We can live well on less, and enjoy life just as much. It has worked out well to have various ways to work for ourselves whenever a paid job isn't available to us. ;-))

  • Report this Comment On July 07, 2010, at 7:09 PM, ChrisBern wrote:

    gfbjohn-- in 2 words, "no thanks".

    Besides, haven't you noticed the inherent contradiction in your last paragraph?

    (Hint: the relationship between poverty and U.S. debt.)

    One would think that poverty would be outright eliminated in a country that has indebted its citizens so heavily. But no, that debt has largely gone to partially fund OTHER "entitlements" and immutable government "programs" that will cause even more stress on the system in the coming years.

    So entrust more responsibility to the U.S. government? No thanks. I've seen no historical evidence that this would be a prudent decision.

  • Report this Comment On July 07, 2010, at 7:30 PM, ibitegirls wrote:

    Today was more of like a Rallycalypse LMAO

  • Report this Comment On July 07, 2010, at 8:41 PM, xetn wrote:

    gfbjohn:

    It is mostly government intervention (regulation) and taxes that has resulted in most of the high paying manufacturing jobs off-shore.

    All the government's spending has not produced one single sustainable private-sector job. The only sector increasing jobs is government.

    http://nakedlaw.avvo.com/2010/06/government-vs-private-secto...

  • Report this Comment On July 07, 2010, at 10:42 PM, SeeknDestry wrote:

    Most people lose out on the major bull rallies after severe economic distress because they are too timid to invest again.

    Buy stocks for cheap when you can. Don't let the market tell you what to do, exploit the market to your own advantage.

  • Report this Comment On July 08, 2010, at 12:40 AM, paulstewart2 wrote:

    The last few days and the end of last week was definitely the time to buy. It is possible there will be other opportunities like this. I think the balance of probabilities are against it. This happened because of a convergence of bad news against low trading volumes combined with hangover fear from the last year and a half. There is no basis for stocks to go as low as they did. I took advantage of the situation. I might live to regret it, but I am thinking probably not.

  • Report this Comment On July 08, 2010, at 9:01 AM, ewent0 wrote:

    A market driven on the basis of unmitigated greed is a market destined to fail. Wall Street is at the end of the line and they are just like gamblers in a casino. Their chips are down but they'll pawn their Rolexes if need be to make it appear that what they are investing in has substance.

    How does any corporation have substance when its less focused on product and service than it is on which corporation out there is up for grabs at the cheapest price?

    When Enron bilked its own employees out of their 401K retirements all while Lay and Shilling were already selling Enron stock in the hundred millions, what would make anyone have faith in Wall Street when it can't police its own?

  • Report this Comment On July 08, 2010, at 3:31 PM, marsconi wrote:

    I think a crash is going to happen, but it might take a while until it sets in. Housing is weak, people are walking away from their mortgages. I read somewhere that 9.2% of all people with mortgages are behind in payments. The housing weakness will propagate through the banking system and the rest of the economy, ultimately reducing corporate profits and increasing unemployment, which will, in turn, will lead to even more people with mortgage problems, more foreclosures, and reduced hosing prices ... we're in a downwards spiral.

  • Report this Comment On July 08, 2010, at 4:14 PM, SquaredHedge wrote:

    We've got problems but below 1,000??? Horse hockey. A retracement to the March 09 low would probably foretell a collapse that would shut down all markets long before the stock market reached 5,000 much less 1,000. We will stumble along at these levels until well into next year and maybe 2012 but there will be no apocalypse. For all who disagree with me read a little history. We've been here before - several times and we have always bounced back. We will again. In fact, I would bet that before Obama leaves office in 2013 (ahem!!) unemployment will be below 8% with GDP growth in the mid single digits. (4-6%)

  • Report this Comment On July 08, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Lordrobot wrote:

    The only clowns calling for a market meldown are the technical tea leaf readers. Biggs just made a mistake and he is entitled to an occasional mistake; he has made them before. But hedge funds at large have been in total disarray since March 2009 and they continue to want to go back in time to buy a market bottom that only occurs every 30 years or so. It's over.

    More recently hedge funds tried to fill the financial press with doom and gloom over Greece, the euro etc. and in doing so scared their own subscribers into redemptions. How utterly stupid. So that is when they sold off oil to hold the short line on the euro. That was stupid. Then they had redemptions and sold of tech. Again stupid. So Hedges are in a shambles.

    Business will struggle under obama but the courts are chipping away at the heavy liberal hand especially in off shore drilling and likely in Obamacare too. It is not at all a settled matter that a gov can order citizens to purchase insurance policies under a guise of a tax that of course all Legislators are exempt from paying.

    With the weakening of Obama and the weakening of his liberal soldiers, it is possible especially over immigration to have liberals lose total control of both houses of gov. That to a great extent will result in some much needed tax relief and more favorable business treatment. Most recently Obama eliminate all rapid depreciation for small businesses buying equipment. That is insane and Obama is rewarded with excessive unemployment and huge gov. bloat. Anyone could argue if they want the merits of Obama but I think Jeff Immelt got it spot on.

    If I were dealing with Obama as a stock, I would continue to sell short and in fact double down but there will be no business meltdown in the US. Business has learned a lot from these professional politicians. Companies are flush with cash, all have plans on the deck to move manufacturing overseas and alter corporate structure to avoid Obama taxes. The real trouble with arrogance and ego, is that it leave little room for the assumption that a lot of others are much smarter. I would regard Obama some kind of bipolar egocentric character that is running out of popcorn. A lot of politicians are unpopular but Obama is also highly unlikable so I place obama's future inversely to the economy. As his poll numbers crash, the Capitalist instinct gets stronger. In eight months Obama will be irrelevant sitting out his last two years packing his bags.

  • Report this Comment On July 09, 2010, at 11:43 PM, rmiers wrote:

    The barbarians will be at the gate if the naked shorts and leverage guys continue to sell stuff they don't own and don;t pay for it if things go bad. They gamed the system to a worldwide recession and not one went to the slammer.

    The very senators who were responsible for the mortgage fiasco were the same who rushed to fix the "system"

    Give us a break. They are about to kill the golden goose with their greed.

    This financial bill (the fix) simply does not address any issues that caused the crash.

    Normal depositors cannot protect their money from being used to buy and sell paper not concerned with their accounts.

    The simple Glass Stegal act protected us for almost 70 years and the banking interests want no part of it. It is not even mentioned.

    They own or control the law and the media.

    Better protect that goose methinks. O yes, if you sell insurance, you should have the wherewithall to pay the claim. Or go to the cement hotel.

  • Report this Comment On July 10, 2010, at 12:20 AM, rmiers wrote:

    Where does fools go to purchase Credit Default policys and Derivatives on USA bonds, States of Illinois, California, New York, Ohio, Michigan, and other like city and state bonds?

    Where can WE short these well run enities? Maybe buy a little insurance that the terminator cannot keep his fingers (massive plural) in the dikes (massive plural)?

    Surely the financials so adept at issuing and purchasing these so-called complicated instruments can make a market for us.

    Methinks a share of the greek airport departure tax would be a good one also. But if someone can just point me toward the California bond defaults I would be happy.

    Disclaimer, I wish no harm on any American city or state whatsoever. In fact, I wish them well and support any and all help given to them. I am just pointing out the ludicrous financial bets/and the useless insurance issued to hurt our country and economy. That means US, the USA family.

  • Report this Comment On July 10, 2010, at 3:21 PM, car1020 wrote:

    Well, guys, here's the deal. We are going to be surprised and hopefully prepared.

    Wondering where this person ,writing this article, was and how prepared he was in the Fall of 2008????

  • Report this Comment On July 12, 2010, at 12:57 PM, altruria wrote:

    We have to get control of this run-a-way criminal -lacky institutiion called congress! They do nothing to help (only to line their own pockets). We need to unload this bunch of vermine in Nvember!

  • Report this Comment On July 12, 2010, at 7:37 PM, jimswhims wrote:

    Policy makers are pulling out all the stops to get us back to economic growth. They will probably succeed.

    However, the economic growth model is currently fueled by oil, and thus constrained by its availability. Two scenarios that could be played out:

    1) The transfer to renewables takes place in time, we get economic growth until the next limit to economic growth is encountered (and, hopefully, resolved). That next limit would likely be a clash of population and land/water/agricultural capacity.

    2) The transfer to renewables is too slow to compensate for reduced oil supply. Oil price shocks and recession ensue, causing food prices to rise and conflicts to start up....

    If 1) occurs, then investing now is at least somewhat sensible, though radical repricing could occur in a sustainable economy. If 2) holds, we get at most 5-10 years of economic growth, before rocky markets make buy-and-hold investing too risky.

    By the way, what one would hope would happen is that we could transition to renewables in time to wean our economies off oil and developing countries could sustainably bring their living standards to "western" levels. At this point population pressures would drop off and we could reach some kind of balance where there is enough land/air/water to sustain a steady population. At this point, of course, economic growth would be dead! :-D

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