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GE's Pick-and-Roll on GE Capital's Earnings

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Yesterday, General Electric (NYSE: GE  ) held an investor day that included a much-anticipated "deep dive" into GE Capital. Investors have battered the conglomerate's shares this year, sending them down nearly 40%, over concerns about the exposures and profitability of its lending arm. While GE did reaffirm its 2009 earnings estimate for GE Capital of $5 billion – a figure that is widely considered to be inflated -- GE's own presentation shows that number is at significant risk.

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Indeed, the $5 billion corresponds to GE's base scenario, which has unemployment peaking at 8.5% and US GDP declining by 1.8%. GE looked at two other cases based on the Fed's base and adverse scenarios for the U.S. economy, under which it estimates GE Capital would earn $2-$2.5 billion and zero, respectively. Unfortunately, there isn't much to separate GE's base scenario from the Fed's base case which is characterized by unemployment peaking at 9.3% and U.S. GDP dropping by 2%.

Even the Fed's adverse scenario (peak unemployment: 10.1%, U.S. GDP: (3.3%)) looks remarkably achievable. Investors who are focused on a single point estimate ($5 billion) in that context are setting themselves up to be disappointed – I think the likelihood that GE will achieve that number is almost zero.

Take commercial real estate, for example...
In its fourth quarter, Goldman Sachs (NYSE: GS  ) , applying mark-to-market accounting, wrote the value of its commercial real estate equity investments down by 25%. Meanwhile, GE's writedowns on its commercial real estate holdings last year totaled less than 1% of their value.

Unlike Goldman, Morgan Stanley (NYSE: MS  ) or Merrill Lynch (now part of Bank of America (NYSE: BAC  ) ), GE doesn't mark its commercial real estate portfolio against market values, arguing that these are long-term holdings. Instead, it values the assets on the basis of projected cashflows. In principel, I have no problem with that choice, but the discrepancy here is too large to simply put down to Mr. Market's depressive mood.

Who would you rather lend to: Turkey or GE Capital?
Either way, the credit default swap market took some comfort from GE's extra disclosure. The cost of insuring GE Capital's debt fell to 7.5% upfront yesterday (from 9% on Wednesday) and 5% annually (in order to insure $10 million of GE bonds against default over five years, one would need to pay $750,000 upfront and $500,000 annually).

In terms of the annual cost, that is a lot cheaper than that for insurers Metlife (NYSE: MET  ) , Prudential (NYSE: PRU  ) or Hartford Financial (NYSE: HIG  ) , which ranged between 8.5% and 9% on Wednesday. GE Capital is hardly off the hook yet, though – the Republics of Hungary and Turkey are both considered to be better credits. I think stock investors should take a cue from credit default swap traders (here, but not always): the risk that earnings at GE Capital will deteriorate beyond management's expectations are very significant.

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  • Report this Comment On March 22, 2009, at 11:06 AM, richovertime wrote:

    Well I am sure your correct about the ratings of turkey and hungary but the banking crisis hasn't really hit in Europe yet. I have read in different sources that European Banks are leveraged 50 times as much as ours were. Coupled with the subprime they bought from us and the leverage ratio of the Eastern European countries that are going to have trouble funding their banking systme becasue their loans and risk are greater then their yearly GDP. I am not sure the credit default analysts are correct on their risk valuations at this time.

    GE is a titan and one that is still packing a great punch. even if they go lower from here in the near term the long term prospects for this are tremendous.

  • Report this Comment On March 22, 2009, at 3:08 PM, TMFAleph1 wrote:

    richovertime,

    Thanks for your interest. One comment, though: European banks are definitely NOT fifty times more leveraged than US banks.

  • Report this Comment On March 23, 2009, at 10:55 AM, pondee619 wrote:

    " I have read in different sources that European Banks are leveraged 50 times as much as ours were". richovertime

    "European banks are definitely NOT fifty times more leveraged than US banks." TMFMarathonMan

    Do either of you have a source to cite, or should we take your thoughts as gospel?

  • Report this Comment On March 24, 2009, at 9:05 PM, UltraContrarian wrote:

    pondee - http://economistonline.blogspot.com/2008/12/bank-leverage-ra...

    According to that chart from a few months ago, the European banking system is about 2.5x as leveraged as the US.

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