Is it Time for Mel Karmazin to Go?

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Few CEOs watch their stocks crater by 95% in a calendar year and live to tell the tale, but Sirius XM Radio's (Nasdaq: SIRI) Mel Karmazin is still standing.

Karmazin has been spared the brunt of shareholder venom, since loyal investors don't necessarily blame him for the satellite radio provider's predicament. It's a whole lot easier to blame the FCC. Regulators took a year and a half to approve the merger between Sirius and XM, releasing the new company into the wild just months before the first of many costly debt-refinancing hurdles.

Unfortunately for Karmazin, he did blow last month's channel shakeup, and this time, there is no scapegoat.

Picking at last month's scab again
Killing off many niche music channels, and replacing them with somewhat similar content, may have been a shrewd cost-shaving move. But is it coming at a price?

"We've gotten hundreds of people who hated it and claimed they were going to cancel," Karmazin said at last week's Reuters Media Summit, as recounted in the Reuters MediaFile blog. "If we took the most aggressive number of people who cancelled, and we take that (away) the $120 a year (they pay) it doesn't get to a $1 million as compared to the significant amount of cost savings as a company that needs to make money."

That sounds to me like a flawed argument. For starters, cyberspace is littered with accounts from subscribers who called to cancel, but were offered three free months of service if they reconsidered. For a cash flow-hungry company like Sirius XM, that could be a significant loss. Where is the math on that? How many called and were swayed by a move that will cost the company on the top line?

More importantly, why do we assume that the knee-jerk reactionaries were the only customers irked by the move? Others who lost their favorite channels are probably just waiting until their subscriptions run out before bolting. We may never know the full impact of this move, but it's likely to be far more than the $1 million annually in immediate cancellations that Karmazin is reporting. If churn inches higher and conversion rates suffer over the next few quarters, will Karmazin simply blame the economy, or will he concede that last month's move played an alienating role?

Arrogance at the $0.15-a-share mark
There's a brash cockiness in Karmazin's tone that worries me. "We've analyzed all the cancellations since the rationalization," he explains. "It's hard for me to understand what they don't like. We're going to pick the best channels."

Karmazin is an old-school radio guy, with terrestrial-radio experience from when Viacom (NYSE: VIA) ran radio giant CBS (NYSE: CBS). At first, I assumed that was a blessing. After suffering through the endlessly identical playlists of commercial-laden FM and AM radio, I hoped Karmazin would relish the open-ended opportunity to program dozens of niche-specific stations.

However, instead of appreciating that different listeners have different tastes, even within the same genre of music, he's apparently assuming that the choice between XM and Sirius is basically down to picking between Howard Stern and Oprah Winfrey, or NFL vs. MLB. It's not. If Sirius and XM are identical in musical variety, where will the consumer turn?

There are certainly plenty of choices out there. Even automaker partners like Ford (NYSE: F) and General Motors (NYSE: GM) are stuffing CD-ripping hard drives into their latest models. Even more car manufacturers are including audio input jacks into their receivers, perfect for SanDisk (Nasdaq: SNDK) digital media players or the Internet radio-streaming prowess of Web-surfing phones like Apple's (Nasdaq: AAPL) iPhone.

In the end, the customers unhappy with Sirius XM's pared-down lineup are just another round of scapegoats for Karmazin to blame if the current quarter's numbers prove sloppy. Sooner or later, the Teflon will wear out, and there will be fewer forces to take the fall.

I don’t think Karmazin should go. Last month's mistake was his first real blunder. However, for a guy running a company with a sobering $3.4 billion in total debt, I doubt Mr. Market will give him too many more chances to slip up, with shareholders and creditors watching intently.

Ease up on the battering rams. Blow out the torches. Lay down the pitchforks. But don't stray too far from where you left them. Even though I predict that Sirius XM will make it through next year's challenges in one piece, Karmazin will have his hands full as he defends his company against creditors and critics.

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  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 4:32 PM, simsasa wrote:

    These last couple pieces reek of a subscriber disgruntled by losing his favorite station. Unfortunately, the subscriber happens to be in a position of power and can't resist the opportunity to bash the company publicly. Do you not agree there's a strong undertone of personal dissatisfaction here?

    Put yourself in Mel's shoes. He hears you both ripping on the stock dropping 95%, but also that you're upset because he yanked your favorite 80s channel and replaced it with another 80s channel. You can't please everyone.

    In a nutshell, people hate change, and since people generally don't have a CEOs perspective, they can't appreciate it when tough choices have to be made.

    I've been a Sirius subscriber since 2002, and I too lost a couple of my favorite channels. But I'm much more interested to see satellite continue to be an option for audio in the car than to take it personally and make matters even worse for the company.

    Please no more substance-less articles just to keep letting everyone know you miss Fred.

  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 4:52 PM, tostrhed wrote:

    I use a Zune in my wifes car, but its no substitute for my Sirius. Totally different.

    I agree with simasa this writer has an angry overtone.

    The only thing that could hurt Sirius is if Howard left, and i'd bet my shares he'll sign up for more years after his contract ends..

  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 5:10 PM, ByrneShill wrote:

    I think SIRI will leave the NYSE before karmazin leaves SIRI.

  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 5:14 PM, ildirector wrote:

    I'm going to agree with this writer in regard to how Mel is handling the channel lineup.

    Essentially, what I feel that Mel is saying to me as a customer is "subscribers who’ve lost a favorite channel should continue to pay a monthly fee to Sirius so that it can continue to not provide them with that channel." -Paczkowski, Ditigal Daily

    I understand that the Sirius subscribers lost a lot less in the changeover than the XM subscribers; hence the stronger support/less grumbling of Sirius subscribers.

  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 5:39 PM, luvsiriusxm wrote:

    i loved the consolidation of channels. do you really need 2 80's station? i actually ordered another subscription because of it.

  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 6:19 PM, siri4life wrote:

    I have had just about as much as I can take from the FOOL.You guys cram SIRI in every single article written just to get extra hits on them. You complain about the stock price and how some sort of action needs to be taken for months and now that they are doing things to help the companies synergies you throw it back in there face as if there were any other options. We all new they would get ride of some of the channels based on the merger and yet all you can do is act like they could have cancelled some channels and EVERYONE would love there decision. I HATE YOU

  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 6:35 PM, joeradio wrote:

    As someone who has also been involved with this equity since the early 2000's, I initially thought Mel would be a wonderful leader based upon his past accomplishments and my expectations were high. He may still be one, but right now I'm disappointed. Admittedly, much of what is on his plate was inherited, including the very delayed approval process by the FCC which was out of his control. That said, I'm starting to worry that the real problem here is one of the things you allude to in the article regarding executives hailing from-fill in the blank with radio, cable or tv- who are running this company like a cable company instead of a new, creative and buzz-worthy company like is the case at Apple, for example. It's as if they aren't concerned with making a connection with their customers. For as long as the merger took to be consummated, I'm that much more disappointed that there wasn't a big splash marketing campaign to help establish and create a buzz around the new company. "Sirius XM Radio" is a weak choice of names to begin with, and if you watch the car company commercials (only current advertising), you still see the respective Sirius and XM brands which blur the new brand. Also, with quite a captive number of subscribers already, why not raise cash and reward loyal customers at the same time with a genuine lifetime subscription holiday promotion that would be void of the fine print that exists today ($75 transfer fee x 3 maximum transfers of hardware during the lifetime which dulls the deal). Doing so would generate much needed cash, build the brand, reduce churn, generate some excitement and create revenue on future generations of hardware. Most of all, it would show they care.

  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 6:55 PM, cmorr504 wrote:

    sirius is a dog.

  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 7:09 PM, AMadeMan wrote:

    what are you guys talking about?

  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 7:48 PM, Recondo72 wrote:

    Thanks for the article. As a multi-year subscriber to XM & a Sirius stockholder I was opposed to the merger but hoped for the best. Unfortunately what I feared has come to pass. Loss of some of the best XM channels and substituted for inferior Sirius channels (ex:XM's Soul Street vs. Soul Town & XM's "The System" vs. that terrible excuse "Area"). Most mergers that I recall resulted in a decline in customer satisfaction and product/service.

    Mr. Karmazin & staff displayed unbelievable arrogance in not informing subscribers of the change and then in a press conference last week displayed an attitude of "take it or leave it" when asked about elimination/substitution of certain channels. Mr. Karmazin does not seem to truly understand the dynamics of SatRad. It is SUBSCRIBER based!!

    I think he should be relieved of command and the past president of XM should take his place.

    I have been a rabid fan of SatRad since 2002 but I fear that Mr. Karmazin & most of the Sirius management staff may cause the complete failure of SatRad.

  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 9:10 PM, mrbigpants01 wrote:

    All you babys need to be quiet and cry to yourselves. I would like to see you cancel your subscription and go back to good ol radio.

  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 9:22 PM, jbottaNJ wrote:

    MAN!!!! Get over it already. What did you expect them to do with all the duplication? I think the changes were not only necessary, but well thought out. I have XM in one car and SIRI in the other and was happy to see the convergence.

    On another note, I recently added the best of SIRI to my XM subscription. Why don't you investigate how many subs have added a best of package in the last few months and maybe you'll have something positive to write about.

  • Report this Comment On December 10, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Hartleib wrote:

    10 CEOs To Go For 2009: Mel Karmazin of SIRIUS XM (SIRI)

    It is December, and it is time for many companies to review their existing plans and decide to make some major changes in 2009. SIRIUS XM Radio Inc. (NASDAQ: SIRI) now stands at a critical juncture, and this is a call which will not come about easily. It is also a call which may be one of the more controversial calls out there. It is time for a major change at SIRIUS XM, and that change needs to be the ouster of Mel Karmazin as CEO.

    For a backgrounder on criteria, we do not name a CEO with the title of "one who needs to leave" just on share price alone. This call is also not just because the growth ahead will be less than many have hoped and less than what Karmazin had predicted. The call isn't even based upon the great possibility that even that lowered growth target may have to be reduced again. This is also not personal because we have had no dealings with the company nor with Mr. Karmazin. But there has been serious destruction of investor wealth here which cannot be ignored. The only recent investors who have made money are those who sold shares short.

    If you go through the list of 2008 CEO's to go, almost all of those called out have moved on by now. If you go through our list of 2007 CEO's to go, you'll see that most have hit the road.

    Mel was deemed a hero when he came over and was credited as the key reason that Howard Stern landed at SIRIUS. So he does deserve a large part of the credit for the company's early growth. But Stern's massive pay package came when shareholders were already feeling a major pinch, and that may have been the first straw putting pressure on the camel's back. That prior success was short-lived and has since turned into a shareholder disaster.

    We predicted the path to merger in late 2006 and even suggested that either XM head Hugh Panero or Karmazin would go when the new company launches. Panero was the one who left. And Mel Karmazin either miscalculated the time that the merger would take or he just assumed that the merger would get approved since every other merger was approved. You can look through our "satellite" sector and see his comments we have noted over and over on this. The result was a disaster because the merger took so long and came at such a cost that now the company has some serious viability issues if it cannot secure ample financing. The company just wrote off enough value from the XM merger that the current numbers are now almost numbing.

    Mr. Karmazin has been giving far fewer interviews and it seems that he has been making far fewer public appearances lately. We noticed in one of his recent interviews how Mr. Karmazin sounded far less confident than in past reports. At the last earnings report, we were flabbergasted about how the company handled the reporting.

    We have commented on market rumors in the recent past about Karmazin possibly taking Sirius private. It seems that the current LBO/MBO financing is not there for Karmazin to orchestrate this, but if the company does get to effect its reverse stock split and then trades off again, then he might be able to pull it off if the access to capital starts to come more easily.

    SIRIUS needs to lock up its key talent and it needs to do so at new market rates rather than past rates that are not reflective of the current media climate. While we think that Karmazin needs to go, our prediction differs than what we feel should happen. We think that Karmazin is on a track to buying enough time until the ability to secure financial partners is easier, and then he can make his move. Karmazin "may" try to acquire SIRIUS and if that occurs we do not believe it will be at anything close to favorable terms for today's existing shareholders.

    While we do not like to only harp on share prices, the value destruction here has been enormous and the efforts from holders to ouster the company might actually have a shot at achieving their goals here. Michael Hartleib, an individual leading SaveSirius.org and suing Sirius, offered up comments on this. He noted specifically, "What's transpired during Mr. Karmazin's leadership is nothing more than criminal and I'd like to remind you of the CNBC piece Mr. Karmazin did entitled "I am American Business" in which he states "the reason I like to be the CEO of a publicly traded company is because the shareprice is like a report card." News Flash Mr. Karmazin.... I and members of SaveSirius.org give you a big fat "F" which I guess is appropriate considering the way you ____ us (edited over)."

    Satellite radio is easily considered one of the great consumer products of today, and therefore we are saying that SIRIUS XM is one of the great consumer products. If the company can implement what we think it wants to implement ahead, then it will be an even greater consumer product. Whether or not a growing army of the unemployed and whether a horrible auto sales and slower consumer spending market may affect the future numbers is not what we hold against Karmazin. But the facts speak for themselves, and we think that SIRIUS XM needs to be run by someone who is more aligned with its investors of today rather than a manager who did great and then gave it all back and then some.

    In 2004 at the start of the run, the stock did go from $2.00 to almost $8.00. But after shares broke under $6.00 in 2006 they never recovered. Sirius stock peaked around $4.00 throughout 2007. Shares now sit around $0.20. So even a 500% gain from here would do little for the very long-term investors. The pure destruction of value here has just been too great and it seems that the outcome for shareholders is looking more dire by the week. Karmazin has already said he wants to pursue a reverse stock split, and our caution to the public here is that reverse stock splits do not have the greatest history after the split is effected.

    One important issue in Mel leaving his post is that it might make getting the financing package more difficult. An investor might be unwilling to loan the company capital if there is management turmoil. But you could also argue that a new financial package might come with the stipulation that the backers get to name their own CEO at the helm.

    While we think that Karmazin should go, we put the odds that he will leave on his own accord at less than 50%.

    Jon C. Ogg

    December 1, 2008

  • Report this Comment On December 11, 2008, at 12:28 AM, keroyk wrote:

    Mel K. did not after getting approval for the merger at any time contact share holders of any type merger costs or loans to be negotiated until after the merger was approved by the FCC at that time I feel we should have been notified of what was to happen but he did not feel it was important to let us know what we were in for.His arrogence is what has happened to our shares which is as of today 0.1566 today and I feel HE should BE FIRED and a new Board Be nominated and new elections be held NO new stock issued also NO reverse Split NO on election of Board. WE need leadership who knows how to communicate what our needs are to keep SIRI on an even keel and above board company that can solve the problems in programming, substance the company needs to succede for the share holders.Thanks KEN.

  • Report this Comment On December 11, 2008, at 7:02 AM, riroon wrote:

    The writer is 100% correct. For example, my favorite station, FRED, had a record collection over 2000 songs deep; the same ARTIST was rarely heard more than once every three days. The songlist was ecclectic, with bands like Chameleons UK and Sisters of Mercy. It was replaced with its 'duplicate', FIRST WAVE, with a 400 song playlist and SONGS that repeat more than three times per day. (Yes, there are guys out there that track this stuff).

    More than that, many of the songs played there are not even New Wave. The GoGo's? Power Station? Joan Jett? Pretenders? According to the programmers, this is 'new wave.' All songs played by these artists were their top 40 hits, nothing deep or rare.

    Next, they CENSORED the rap stations, where one would be used to hearing the F-Bomb fly, but replace X-Country with OUTLAW COUNTRY, where DJ Mojo Nixon lets such talk flow often from his lips.

    So, no cursing in rap, but cuss all you want on the country channels.

    I called to cancel, and was offered the extra months for free. I took it, but then told them to shove it once Mel K said “You as a subscriber, though you may miss your channel, you need to make sure we make money" at the Reuters media conference last week.

    Sorry, Mel. You are not a charity or utility. You are a frivilous expense... one I didn't mind paying for as long as they served my needs. So chalk me up to one of the '100s' of bitter subscribers out of 19mil. You took away the product; I will not pay the sub fee out of fear or sympathy.

    'Scuse me while I turn on my internet radio and peruse iTunes.

  • Report this Comment On December 11, 2008, at 10:56 AM, krimsonk wrote:

    Mel and Scott both definitely need to be ousted. They have killed satellite radio.

    http://www.SiriuslyScrewed.com

  • Report this Comment On December 11, 2008, at 11:09 AM, jpb64 wrote:

    I agree with this article...the comments are spot on.

    Niche stations/offerings should be a significant part of what a subscription service is all about.

    Howard is crap, though he helped bring the stock from a few bucks to $9+. Paying the bills brought it to 15 cents. Call it hype deflation.

    There are enough free sources of banality out there. Like my friends told me in 2002, why pay for radio? Turns out they were right!

  • Report this Comment On December 11, 2008, at 11:10 AM, DogNapster wrote:

    Yes, Mel should go--and quickly--before any shareholder equity vanishes completely with further dilution, a reverse split and a bankruptcy.

    The primary Mel mistake was chasing the merger.

    At the beginning of February, 2007, Sirius had momentum in subscriber growth and national awareness. XM had a heavier debt load.

    Without the merger, Sirius could have used the 18 months to agressively expand it consumer reach and product development.

    With the merger, it couldn't do so. No one could agree on what the technical merger would mean. And consumers were exceedingly wary of buying a product that might be made obsolete by the merger. So they waited.

    18 months of inaction will stop even the speediest runaway train. And it did.

    Had there been no merger attempt, it's very possible that XM would have gone bankrupt by now or next year, achieving the same goal as the merger in the Sirius eye.

    Secondly, if there was to be a merger, why after 18 months wasn't Sirius ready to hit the ground running as soon as the FCC said yes?

    No plan, no channel alignment for half a year. Mel's responsibility. He didn't get it done.

    The actual channel choices are reason three. They chose less variety in almost all cases, even though higher XM listening numbers and lower churn rates indicated strongly that their approach was preferable.

    And they didn't let paying customers know until the week of the change. Nice planning.

    It was a parochial choice, not a logical one. Logic would have dictated using DC for programming where the studio space was expansive and the rent was low.

    Instead, Sirius chose its costly, cramped quarters at Rockerfeller Center.

    It's not about stations that someone liked. It's about mismanagement.

    Mel should go, before the additional dilution of shares, the reverse split and a bankruptcy put the company solely in his hands.

    (My personal salute to the Fool who said he bought an additional radio because there were fewer choices available. Uh huh, sure fella.)

  • Report this Comment On December 11, 2008, at 11:54 AM, DogNapster wrote:

    Okay by me.

    Winers love the bubbly. I do.

    Whiners, however, are a different kettle of fish.

    Kick there ass? Brilliant.

    Get in touch when you've mastered the English language.

  • Report this Comment On December 11, 2008, at 11:59 AM, Recondo72 wrote:

    Examples of inept Sirius based programming since the merger(under Mel's control):

    1.Sirius' "Soul Town" which replaced XM's "Soul Street":

    5th Dimension,Grover Washington & Earth Wind & Fire songs - I happen to like all these performers but 5th Dimension was NEVER a MoTown oriented group,same for Earth,Wind & Fire. Grover Washington is a JAZZ musician for crying out loud

    2. Sirius' uncensored"Raw Dog" which replaced XM's "Comedy XL": I've heard Bill Cosby a number of times on "Raw Dog" I like 'ol Bill but he belongs on the family comedy channel. This channel is so disjointed it's pathetic. The playlist on "Raw Dog" & "Blue Collar" is so limited. That NEVER happened with XM's "Comedy XL". I don't know who payed the programmer to feature some of these comedians on "Raw Dog". Never heard of a bunch of them, a lot are sub par and no where near the big names I used to hear on "Comedy XL".

    3. They just plain gutted 'techno" with that piece of crap "Area"

    4. Ditto for "Spa" which is a poor substitute for "Audiovisions"

    5. "DJ's" on the '70's channel need to shut the hell up. They are WAY too chatty and talk over the songs.

    The above examples demonstrate inattention to detail and is indicitive of poor management. I really believe Mr. Karmazin & other post merger staff do not have a clue on how to administer the niche channels and are focusing on turning SatRad into terra radio without commercials.

    Seeing how they are screwing up SatRad so far, I predict he will try to justify commercials/sponsors on what's left of the music channels and some subscribers will blindly lap it up.

    Yep, he needs to go and be replaced by XM's chief.

    I'll keep my subscription for now because I have 1 year plus on my multi-year contract but it ain't looking good under Mel's watch. I would as soon see Sirius/XM fail than to see it flounder in mediocrity.

    SatRad subscriber since 2002 & Sirius stockholder who voted Karmazin (and others) out via proxy last night.

  • Report this Comment On December 11, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Recondo72 wrote:

    riroon:

    Thank you for bringing up Mel's arrogant statement "you as a subscriber...need to make sure we make money..."

    I ment to mention that as well. That statement really frosted me.

    I read that last week as well as his comment to a reporter questioning him on the elimination of some rap station. His comment was: "there are other Rap stations available"

    Now I don't care a bit about Rap but what he's saying to me is: "take it or leave it"

    The man and some of his upper staff (ESPECIALLY the chief programmer) don't have a clue. They are locked into the commercial radio mindset.

    They need to go. Period

    Mr. Karmazin, I will support SiriusXM IF you give me something worth paying for. The way I see things presently you OWE ME for gutting channels and moving SatRad into a position of mediocrity and possilbe extinction.

    If you want to make some money, fire the "Mega-Stars" and other obnoxious talkers(or offer them as an option;then you'll see how much they are REALLY worth).

    Sir, its the music,information and QUALITY entertainment that matter.

  • Report this Comment On December 11, 2008, at 2:54 PM, ClassicXM wrote:

    For a CEO that decided to save money by cutting out most of XM's superior Classical Music, dumping VOX in favor of the NY Opera, and dumping most of the great stuff XM programmed on their old 110 channel, including Black & White Blockbusters,(great piano pieces), and broadcasts from various Symphonies, such as Detroit, Cleveland, Berlin, Baltimore,etc & then mixing vocal with Symphony on their new Channel 78 Symphony Hall, yes I think its time to say goodnight Mel. You sucessfully ruined XM programming just in the classical music sphere!

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