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Buy and Hold Is Dead? Read This!

Listen: If I hear one more Warren Buffett wannabe blurt out, "It all depends on what you buy, and at what price you buy it," I might fling myself from the roof.

So how about we skirt the unpleasantness and recast this whole "buy and hold is dead" debate right now? We can start with a question I found a while back on Jim Cramer's blog that hits it right on the head. The CNBC star wrote: "Does the market work? ... Can it be counted on to do what it used to do, which is create wealth by investing in good companies and holding them over time?"

That's what I'm talking about!
See, I'm like you. I didn't need some "black swan" event to tell me that blue chips like Bank of America (NYSE: BAC  ) can be a rough ride -- or even blow up altogether, a la Citigroup (NYSE: C  ) and AIG (NYSE: AIG  ) . I saw it with my own eyes in 1991, and I've read about it in books and watched it on Frontline.

I also know that Internet stocks got pricey in 1999 -- and when priced for perfection, even tech stalwarts like Oracle (Nasdaq: ORCL  ) and Cisco (Nasdaq: CSCO  ) struggle to deliver "expected" returns over the next few years. I didn't know this then -- after all, it seemed just as "true" in 1995 as in 1999 -- but I knew it was a possibility.

In other words, who cares whether the share prices of individual companies go up or down at intervals? Or whether (or when) they might go to zero -- which logic and history assure us they will do. I want to know whether investors looking to build wealth over the long term should be buying and holding common stocks.

It takes guts to answer yes
It's been tough, so I understand that. I don't understand the fluffiness of the debate (one guy directed me to an article showing how bonds beat stocks over a 10-year period, for Pete's sake). Ken Solow takes a more thoughtful tack in his new book, Buy and Hold Is Dead (Again). Solow makes a cogent plea for active portfolio management, though even he falls into a few traps I'd appreciate your thoughts on -- like when he insists that buy and hold doesn't work in bear markets, or when he compares buy-and-hold investors to farmers who plant the same crop in all seasons, when they'd be better off planting one in the summer and another in the winter. That sounds sensible, except for one thing: Comparing bull and bear markets to seasons is nonsense.

Now, imagine you're a farmer in North Carolina -- where "winter" lasts anywhere from one day to 18 months, and occurs anywhere from twice a year to once every seven years. Worse, every time the temperature drops 10 degrees below normal, people start screaming, "Winter is here, winter is here!" And every so often, they're right.

You see where I'm headed, right?
I mean, now you've got problems. How many times can we throw winter wheat in the ground on a cold day in June before we're left chewing the bark off the trees? Absent any discernable winter/summer cycle or clear signal of when winter is coming ... well, maybe we are better off planting one sturdy crop that does best across all seasons.

Of course, buy-and-hold haters assure us that this isn't their problem. They can tell bull and bear markets apart -- even though no less a luminary than John Bogle assures me they can't. This is how they knew to sell out in 1999, buy back in 2003, and sell out again in October 2007. What's never so clear is what to do right now. Solow, at least, gives us a methodology to follow.

According to Solow, buy and hold can work -- just not when valuations are high. Hey, at least that's something, especially if you're about to retire. Curiously, as you're about to see, Solow goes on to mine reams of data to prove that if stocks are "expensive" when you retire -- even by a simple price-to-earnings measure -- don't expect "normal" stock returns in your lifetime. Period.

In other words, buy and hold is dead!
At least for you it is. You'd better try something else. Before I share his solution (he calls it "tactical portfolio management"), and one of my own, I've got one more bone to pick. And that's the infuriating tendency of even good guys like Solow to pooh-pooh a century's worth of data showing that stocks make you money over long periods.

Most sing the familiar "this time it's different" tune. Some get downright fancy. Solow, for example, loves the "black swan" variation -- repeatedly citing the pampered turkey who faces a "revision of belief" on Thanksgiving Day. Apparently, like the turkey, we've been fattened by 100-plus years of dubious market returns -- and we're in for a whack.

Remarkably, his solution -- rotating into and out of stocks based on market valuations -- is supported by ... you guessed it ... historical data! So let me get this straight: I'm going to bail on buy-and-hold despite a century of data that says it will make me money -- and start jumping in and out depending on the market P/E because it worked in the past?

I think I'll stick with Buffett
Look, I'm no fan of the Jim Cramer bashing. You won't find me kneeling at the altar of Warren Buffett, either. I mean, nobody's that much smarter than we are, right? But when Cramer says something like, "You haven't made any money in 10 years, so buy-and-hold must come into question," I have to side with the Oracle.

After all, the appeal of buy-and-hold isn't that it works best in all markets or 10-year periods, but that it works over the long term -- across all types of markets. If you think you're smarter than Buffett and Bogle and can call the next bull market, more power to you. I, for one, know that I can't. At 44 years old, I'm in stocks and probably always be.

Of course, if you're a little older and have a nest egg you need to live off soon, Ken Solow is right about this: The next 10 years are critical to your success. So by all means, take a look at his book. He's a smart guy and makes some good points. And no matter what your age, here's something else you might want to consider.

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  • Report this Comment On June 20, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Clarabell2 wrote:

    I read your article on "buy and hold." Let me give you my worst case experience with the buy and hold system. I bought Citigroup stock in the early 1990's. And I still own the stock, and over the last year and a half, I watched the pps go from $50+ to less than $1 a share. What a disaster it proved to be.

    Yet when I crunch out the numbers on this long term buy and hold investment, it looks as if I did very well indeed.

    I bought about 1000 shares of C, in the early 90's, with a cost basis of approximately $11,000.

    With splits and the reinvestment of some dividends, I currently own over 5800 shares of C. These shares are currently valued at $3+ a share, about $18,000.

    Also, some years ago, Citigroup spun off travellers and gave me over 300 shares of Travelers, worth about $14,000 today, which I still own.

    Finally, during the years that I owned Citigroup, they have paid me somewhere between $30,000 and $40,000 in dividends, which I have taken in cash.

    Looking back, despite the demise of Citigroup, this long term investment wasn't so bad at all. Thank you.

  • Report this Comment On June 20, 2009, at 11:30 AM, catoismymotor wrote:

    Well said. I am a LTBH Bull. I research and buy quality companies I believe will be able to provide a steady return over the next decade, if not longer. Does this mean I buy and forget? No! I watch them. If there is a reason to sell them I will, but I don't expect the need to come up.

  • Report this Comment On June 20, 2009, at 4:09 PM, webby591 wrote:

    My goodness DAve and Tom, I'm starting to get sick of the crap you let get published on this site!

    Look i'm 21 and have been a full time investor for 2 years and heres my 2 cents:

    I'm an avid reader of Buffet and of Ben Grahm, bless his soul,

    Buy and hold works for companies that the product it holds cannot be changed over time!

    Companies that can't be reinvented, great balance sheets and good ROE! They serve basics needs of all of us, even citigroup which most look at as scum right now has returned Clarbell2 a four or 5 fold return!

    I mean has buffet sold JNJ, KO, KFT, PG, or any of his subsidariesÉÉ

    DOn`t think so, maybe you need to pick up the intelligent investor, then security analysis and stop writing this f`en crap...

    i`m sorry but its been way to long since I have written an insightful report by dave and tom!

    Money back pleaseÉÉ

  • Report this Comment On June 21, 2009, at 12:58 AM, StockTradersBlog wrote:

    That is what I believe too. Buy and hold is not going to work. At least for the next two or three years. I have lost 70% of percent of my portfolio over 12 years using a buy and hold strategy. All the companies I own were great companies but none of them give me positive return. Because I enter the market at a wrong time I guess.

    I feel this rally is losing gas. If you are thinking about buy and hold now it will be wrong. If it were a couple months ago I believe you can still hold and don't have to worry about losing too much

  • Report this Comment On June 21, 2009, at 1:54 AM, goalie37 wrote:

    It seems to me that the most vehement attacks on buy and hold have come from people who didn't buy and hold to begin with. They are using one year of the market to shout to the world how brilliant they are, to use this decade as proof of their brilliance. It's way past the point of being annoying.

    Does "Buy and Hold" work? No. No automatic system can work in the real world. Can it be incredibly profitable to hold a security for a very long time? Of course it can. Just use your heads. As Fools, we have to be smarter than any mantra that can fit into three words.

  • Report this Comment On June 21, 2009, at 4:09 AM, ozzfan1317 wrote:

    Buy and hold should have a twenty year time horizion minimum. I am fortunate I am 17% to the positive this year I bought in mostly right after the crash..:)

  • Report this Comment On June 22, 2009, at 1:50 AM, lordmorgul wrote:

    I'm a very new guy to the investment world, and basically have nothing invested... I'm just learning before I jump in. However, I've been reading a good bit and following the blogs here over a year.

    The whole argument that buy and hold is dead seems to be assuming buy and hold INDEFINITELY. This is definitely not the strategy most 'buy and hold' investors consider prudent... and its is MOST DEFINITELY not Buffet's strategy -- He does sell occasionally.

    As Peter Lynch's book points out, the better way to put it is 'buy and hold until the reason you bought has changed', which is certainly not a dead strategy and never will be.

  • Report this Comment On June 22, 2009, at 8:38 AM, supralam wrote:

    I bought 8000 share of citi and 5000 Aig share holder.

    I'll definately HOLD till they rise again.

    And those so called analyst, Create more bad news by guessing or so, drop more of your fellow American's confident so u can see USA die. Next generation suffer.

    Is that what u want to see?

    So, please STFU.

  • Report this Comment On June 22, 2009, at 5:59 PM, smaulcap wrote:

    Buy and hold is not dead. It's in paralyses, brain dead. It cant move, it can't budge. It goes nowhere. As Motley Fool is finding out. Motley Fool is a big promoter of buy and hold. I pulled the plug on brain dead buy and hold a long time ago. Buffet shmuffet, who cares. Talk about being from the old school buy and hold, he is it. I respect him. I don't idolize him, I don't emulate him. I don't follow him, his portfolio is a complete stranger to me. I do my own thing, my own way. It works for me, real well. I've been sitting on the sidelines the past 4 or 5 weeks, waiting for the correction I've been expecting. Look out! Here it comes.

    I'm just watching for the market to drop some more. I'll start "trading" again and raking it in. The only thing I hold for more than a few days, is my wallet.

    God bless America and stock trading!

  • Report this Comment On June 22, 2009, at 6:39 PM, bernbern0 wrote:

    Thank you so much Clarabell2. Your little post said more than the tons of material I have read about buy and hold investing in the past few months. And once again, I agree with the wisdom of truthisntstupid.

  • Report this Comment On June 23, 2009, at 1:59 PM, smaulcap wrote:

    Clarabell, that's a great story. What a happy ending, good for you! I have to wonder, are you the rule or the exception.

    I mention that because my wife's parents were left a large amount of Citi shares by a close friend of theirs. Aunt Betty had no family, never married. Her and my wife's mother were best of friends since childhood. Betty (we call her "aunt Betty") died about 5 years ago at the age off 76. She left everything to my wife's parents. My wife's parents now feel terribly guilty that they did not sell the shares after they took possession of them. Instead they held the stocks. Now they are left with zilch. They feel guilty that they did not sell the shares 5 years ago and put the money aunt Betty left them to good use.

    Two tales of buy and hold. Yours, and my in-laws. Oh....and aunt Betty too. She died holding the stocks when they were worth something. I guess she is a looser too. Just one of those unpredictable things.

  • Report this Comment On June 23, 2009, at 5:53 PM, XMFRael wrote:

    those are two great stories... as a holder of bank of america, i know the feeling. at the same time, i know the pain of having sold a number of great stocks that would have made me a lot of money. in the long run, i guess i'm hoping that i have more winners than losers -- and a few real big ones. best of luck to you guys.

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