Why You Shouldn't Listen to Jim Cramer

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Whatever money you may need for the next five years, please take it out of the stock market right now, this week. I do not believe that you should risk those assets in the stock market right now."
-- Jim Cramer, Oct. 6, 2008, S&P 500 at 1,056.89

Nearly nine months ago, and thanks in no small part to the statement above, I concluded that Jim Cramer was a menace to investors.

It only took a few months for the rest of the nation to catch on. Jon Stewart finally jumped on the bandwagon in March, exposing the man for what I think he really is: an entertaining (if not irritating) media personality, but certainly not the champion of the individual shareholder that he often claims to be.

In fact, I consider him to be the closest thing to a walking, talking hazard for the individual investor there is. Now, Jon Stewart may have the jokes, but I have the real reasons why he is precisely that, and why you should take a pass on any investment advice he tries to give you.

Thank you, Jon Stewart!
I continue to fully applaud Cramer's stated goal -- to help people make money by investing in the stock market. But Cramer's outburst in October was a mistake -- plain and simple. And, as Mr. Stewart so kindly illustrated, it wasn't his first one.

You see, when someone issues panic-inducing market calls (as Cramer does from time to time) -- and urges investors to avoid long-term buy-and-hold strategies -- the average investor simply gets crushed.

Now, Cramer's Today show plea was grounded in a sound reality -- Fools should never have money they need during the next five years in the market. But by advising people to indiscriminately sell, he helps contribute to exactly the thing that he's trying to avoid: losing money.

Chances are, most viewers were petrified before Cramer even spoke -- the market's been up and down more times than a yo-yo lately. Even a very small push these days is likely to convince investors to join the terrified herds pulling their money out of the market.

Between October and the end of November, investors pulled out a whopping $140 billion from U.S. equity funds. Based on what these funds were holding, they were indirectly pulling out of mutual fund mainstays like Cisco (Nasdaq: CSCO), Altria (NYSE: MO), Research In Motion (Nasdaq: RIMM), Wal-Mart, and PepsiCo (NYSE: PEP) -- many of which had already been hammered.

And instead of holding onto the steady blue-chip stocks that have historically provided investors with some of the strongest long-term returns, many investors were progressively selling at historic lows … thereby ignoring the sound and sage advice from names like Buffett, Lynch, Graham, Munger, and Bogle. That's the larger point.

Cramer might've saved people some money in the short term -- and I'm pleased for that. But in order to complete the circle, he'd have to tell these people precisely when to get back in.

You don't need a weatherman ...
I'll admit that Cramer is entertaining, but no one can consistently forecast the direction of the market as he pretends to be able to do. I repeat: No one can consistently forecast the direction of the market.

It moves completely randomly and unpredictably over the short term -- and therefore trying to make a "call" on the market won't consistently work out for you. Pick a direction (up or down), and there's a 50% chance of being right -- even though the prediction is rather meaningless.

It's like Punxsutawney Phil. The furry little critter climbs out of his hole and either sees his shadow or he doesn't. Whichever it is, the result has nothing to do with whether or not winter is over -- just like a stock market prediction has nothing to do with the market's movements.

The scary part is that Cramer flip-flopped numerous times in 2008, trying to call the bottom at various points throughout the year. While CNBC may gloss over this fact, I've taken careful notice. Don't forget about his theory that 2008 would be the year of natural gas. Ouch.

The talking heads on TV get paid to put on a song-and-dance show and attract viewers. It's entertainment, folks. Your education or your personal success, as Jon Stewart kindly brought to light, is a secondary priority (or not a consideration at all).

Whether Cramer turns out to be right or wrong in the end just isn't the point. The point is that no one can claim to predict the markets -- no one. If you follow the advice of those who say they can, it's likely to cost you thousands (if not more).

Why?
In the real world, there are commission costs, taxes, and opportunity costs -- all of which have a tremendous impact on the returns that you're likely to experience.

Every time you pull the trigger in your account, think about your broker and the tax-man doing a little touchdown dance. Much of their income is predicated on you transacting as much as possible.

Take a hint from someone who knows a lot about the hidden costs of investing: John Bogle, the founder of Vanguard Investments. He writes: "No matter how efficient or inefficient markets may be, the returns earned by investors as a group must fall short of the market returns by precisely the amount of the aggregate costs they incur. It is the central fact of investing."

Think about that the next time you hear "Buy, buy, buy" or "Sell, sell, sell."

And for those who listened to Mr. Cramer on his recent market call to sell, don't forget that he probably didn't bang on the table loud enough to get you back in on the 35% rally we've just had.

The Foolish bottom line
If you want to make money in the stock market, you need to tune out the panic -- or the euphoria. You need to remember that no one has any idea where the market is going in the near or medium term. You need to buy shares of great, built-to-last businesses. You need to hold for the long term. And you need to keep as much money as you can from the tax man or your broker.

That's what we do at Motley Fool Stock Advisor, and it's paying off. Take two of our best stocks, Dolby Labs (NYSE: DLB) and Priceline.com (Nasdaq: PCLN). We recommended buying shares of these stocks two and four years ago, respectively. Both have thrashed the market by incredible margins. I bet we'll continue to hold these two for a long time to come.

What was the cost of doing all this? Probably $24 in broker fees and $0 in taxes. That's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. In fact, our whole scorecard is beating the S&P 500 by 41 percentage points.

As for Cramer ... he undoubtedly has an uncanny knowledge of tickers, prices, and strange catch-phrases. But what he sorely lacks -- and what you must never forget in your investing days -- is temperament. It was Warren Buffett who once said that "the most important quality for an investor is temperament, not intellect."

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This article was originally published Oct. 23, 2008. It has been updated.

Nick Kapur owns shares of Dolby. Dolby and Priceline.com are Motley Fool Stock Advisor selections. Wal-Mart is an Inside Value pick. Pepsi is an Income Investor choice. The Motley Fool's disclosure policy would never suggest it could predict or time the market.

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  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 4:20 PM, jrjenks wrote:

    Sounds like a little bit of professional jeaously to me?

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 4:32 PM, jcperformance wrote:

    Seems I've read this before,....picking on the Professor with a couple of choice examples is easy enough in 20/20 hindsight,....you don't see the guts to call a serious market turn (correctly) on national T V very often,.....potshots out of relative obscurity are easy, :)

    jc

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 5:33 PM, kurtdabear wrote:

    My basic view of Cramer and his advice overall is quite similar to yours, but I believe that you will look back on this column some day as one you wish you hadn't written.

    That call by Cramer was one of the best things he ever did, and his fans who acted on that advice saved themselves at least a 40% bath. Warren Buffett took an even bigger bath than that, yet you recommend him here.

    Cramer doesn't have enough sway over enough large investors to cause a market debacle such as the Nov. '08 or March '09 bottoms. He just called 'em--he didn't cause 'em. Those were professionally generated crashes caused by funds--mutual, ETF and hedge--covering cash calls and their butts as fast as they could scarmble.

    Unfortunately those same people Cramer saved in Nov., he's busy luring back in now with his usual short-term outlook, so now they'll probably all lose it back this summer as the current bear trap closes.

    And if you think long is so great for all market conditions, just run a few scenarios for going long in 1929, 1930, 1931, or 1932 and see how long it took you to get ahead in each case.

    Don't look now, but we really are in a Depression. It is a good time to be long cash, not the market. The best opportunities are still a couple years down the road--when analysts have stopped touting PE's of 12 and 15 as low and dividends of 3 and 4% as high. The time to buy will be when PE's of solid companies are under 7 and their dividends are over 7%, and analysts are saying no one but a fool would be in stocks.

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 5:34 PM, digitalq wrote:

    You didn't convince me to stop listening to Cramer. Not by a long shot.

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 5:35 PM, foolishggg wrote:

    I agree... Does this guy EVER believe in taking profits? Buy great companies and hold them forever?? How do non-best of breed companies raise capital?

    Cramer is a joker- anyone who buys his stock picks is a fool, but the man has good market judgement. Anyone who believes in buy and hold, and not to adjust positions due to market risk is playing into the hands of the rest of us who know better.

    GG

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Bdive wrote:

    I used some advice from Fool Stock Advisor, MDP, and Real Money, Cant say fools any better than Cramer. Though if you follow Cramer he did turn bullish again at about DOW 6300 suggesting likely not much more pain, and has been bullish since. So although he was wrong on Nat Gas the sell signal last fall at around DOW 10500 and buy at 6300 is not too bad.

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 8:26 PM, tashchuk wrote:

    I've had a fool account "forever"; never us it; had to login just to refute this article.

    As as been pointed out in comments, Cramer saved people a huge amount of money if they had heeded his call to sell. As has also been pointed out, Cramer turned bullish at almost the exact bottom, crediting his buddy, friend, pal Doug Kass for that call. I'd like to know how well Nick Kapur's portfolio did in that same time period!

    Also, where was Buffett's "temperament" when he sold vast quantities of stock in supposedly great companies like JNJ and WFC as the market was crashing? That's public record.

    I stopped listening to the fools here when one of them wrote an article about INTC, somewhere around its top about 8 years ago. The gist of the article was something like Intel had a 9x gain in the preceding X years, and only if Intel had another 9x gain from that point, the guy would be rich. Too bad Intel was cut by 75% from that point until now. Too bad that if Intel had another 9x gain from that point it would have wound up with a simply ludicrous market cap of about 4 trillion dollars. That's foolish logic for you.

    I dislike how the fools pay Yahoo for placement as "news". I try to ignore all those stories but occasionally am tempted. I almost invariably regret reading this "news", since it's worse than useless.

    Lastly, it's hard to be "respectful" to Nick when, in his first sentence, he calls Cramer "a menace to investors". How much money has Nick made for himself or for anyone else? How about showing that information as part of a "disclosure policy"?

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 8:43 PM, portefeuille wrote:

    a video featuring jim cramer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COxfPDjl1dc

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 9:25 PM, NOTvuffett wrote:

    Good post portefeuille. I am tired of this Cramer bad, Fool good argument. Any reasonable person would take information from all sources and make their own decisions. I have found them both to be helpful.

  • Report this Comment On July 01, 2009, at 3:35 PM, truthisntstupid wrote:

    Here we go again. Look, if you have money you "won't need in the next five years" why the hell wouldn't you be on a beach somewhere. You're already rich.

    Look, you guys, people who have money they "won't need in the next five years" probably aren't your targeted readers. The last time this particular article was published (MAY 31) some people who need your help and advice MUCH MORE THAN someone who already has managed to set aside a chunk of dough they "don't need in the next five years" joined in at the tail end of the comment thread. WE need you. Quit targeting rich people.

  • Report this Comment On July 01, 2009, at 3:48 PM, jbrt wrote:

    with the way his flap works he could power a generator , I'm certain a few of his idols would buy the IPO if his mouth went public , " empty barrels make the most noise "

  • Report this Comment On July 01, 2009, at 3:49 PM, goalie37 wrote:

    There was another "expert" on CNBC recently saying oil would rise to $84, then fall to $58, then rebound again! How can these well educated and well dressed men and women repeatedly act like such morons? When oil doesnt do exactly as he predicted, will he return to the TV and admit he had no idea what he was talking about?

    At least Cramer, like the folks here at Motley Fool, always give the caveat that their recommendations are only a starting point. You must do your own research and make your own decisions.

  • Report this Comment On July 02, 2009, at 11:35 AM, clintspicks wrote:

    I wish all the Cramer fanatics out there good luck. You're going to need it.

  • Report this Comment On July 02, 2009, at 12:04 PM, ikkyu2 wrote:

    You guys compete with Cramer, offering the exact same service he does. You lambaste him for saying take money you need in the next 5 years out of the market - then in your fine print you agree with him. You criticize him for claiming to predict the direction of the market, something he's repeatedly stated he can't and won't do. And you take issue with some of his picks - heck, why don't you just admit that CAPS was designed to show Cramer up, and even with the silly never-ending-pick policy you implemented, it still couldn't do it?

    This is a poor article because of its lack of objectivity. There's no need to smear your competition.

  • Report this Comment On July 08, 2009, at 1:37 PM, ScottRichard wrote:

    Nick—

    I think the structure of this article makes you look silly. Jumping to the statement that Cramer is a menace for recommending that short term money needed to be withdrawn from the market at 10,056 instead of at what turned out to be significantly lower levels doesn't follow.

    Yes, you do recoup some credibility in stating that "Cramer's Today show plea was grounded in a sound reality -- Fools should never have money they need during the next five years in the market." However, I tire of the Cramer-bashing that frequently populates MF articles.

    Admittedly, I owe Cramer my gratitude for bringing me into the market back in 2003 via his radio show and teaching me many of the basics that have made me a very successful investor. However, his greatest contribution to my investing acumen was to teach me that I need to scrutinize any advice, from any source, and that I am ultimately responsible for any investment outcome.

    Part of my learning came as I blindly followed Jim into Lucent and NYSE and lost substantial sums. However, I also followed Jim into United Healthcare and other stocks that paid handsome returns. And the same is true of Motley Fool services as I took a loss on Satyam and gained with Middleby.

    I continue to perform my own analysis on any recommendation. I recently looked at one MF recommendation and decided I didn’t like the extremely high P/E (today at 132.93). Whether the stock ultimately proves to be a loser or winner is immaterial as it does not fit my investment thesis. Unfortunately, I no longer follow Cramer as his showmanship makes it difficult to glean the value of his vast knowledge of the market. However, with appreciation, I wish him good fortune.

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