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Roundtable: 1 Bold Prediction for 2012

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As others were making New Year's Eve plans, I asked a group of Motley Fool analysts for one bold (possibly outlandish) prediction for 2012. The following are the results of my query (including my own prediction at the end ).

Morgan Housel: First, let's be honest: No one can predict the future, especially when confined to something like one year. Remember, there's nothing special about a year; it's just the time it takes for the Earth to revolve around the sun. Whether a prediction takes place in one year or 18 months or three years shouldn't be important.

But here's my prediction: I think housing will do much, much better than most assume. It's pretty amazing, but housing is as unsustainably low right now as it was unsustainably high during the bubble years. During the bubble we were building about 2 million homes a year while adding 1.5 million new households per year. Today we're building 500,000 homes a year while adding around 1 million new households per year. That can't go on forever -- it's like an anti-bubble. I don't think it's crazy to say some regions could even be facing a housing shortage within the next few years.

Travis Hoium: Unemployment will drop to 7.5%. The employment picture has been improving faster than many expected, especially if you look at the right data. Widely reported non-farm payrolls have increased moderately, adding a bit over 600,000 jobs in the last four months. But a separate survey of households shows that that number exceeds a million. This data may be more accurate because it comes from households, not businesses, so it includes new business and very small business additions that the non-farm payroll number may miss.

Consumers, the driver of the U.S. economy, are also feeling a little more chipper than they have in a long time, as indicated by the Consumer Confidence Index jump to 64.5 in December.

A 7.5% unemployment rate may be a stretch from today's 8.5%, but I think a positive economic spiral will take hold in 2012. Strong corporate balance sheets, relatively low taxes, and years of underinvestment will be the fuel that drives the employment picture back next year.

Matt Koppenheffer: How's this for bold? I predict that a big bank gets broken up in 2012.

The coming year could be the year that JPMorgan Chase (NYSE: JPM  ) gets knocked off its high horse, but I don't see it being the target of a breakup. Wells Fargo (NYSE: WFC  ) has a knack for flying under the radar when it comes to "too big to fail" conversations, even though it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, so I don't think it'll be the one to go.

How about Citigroup (NYSE: C  ) ? Now we're getting warmer. But as logical as a Citi breakup might be, I think if there's a big bank that ends up in pieces in 2012, it'll be Bank of America (NYSE: BAC  ) . B of A is undoubtedly a big, stinky mess, but believe it or not, I think there are some good assets within B of A. A breakup could let those good assets see the light of day. 

Alex Dumortier: Here's how I'm going to define a "bold prediction": a prediction relating to an event that people aren't discussing much (or even at all) despite it having a material probability of occurring -- higher than the market anticipates. I don't claim the odds are better than even, however.

S&P 500 earnings will decline in 2012. Quarter after quarter of impressive earnings growth by the most prominent companies in the U.S. has been, well, impressive. That trend has already lasted longer than I was expecting, but it isn't never-ending -- that much is certain. Profit margins are mean-reverting. We know this. Current profit margins are at the top end of their historical range. We know this. Given the state of the economy, revenue growth is unlikely to be above trend. We know this. In that context, extrapolating growth rates from the recent past could prove dangerously misleading. Analysts are looking for a 10% increase in S&P 500 earnings in 2012. If those earnings are flat year over year or, worse, if they decline, consider the implications for stock prices.

Anand Chokkavelu: Matt's bold prediction on a big bank going down this year could certainly happen. And Bank of America is the perceived weakest of the herd. But I'm going to wax optimistic. My bold call is that Bank of America will be the Dow's biggest winner this year. Because of its current bad reputation, it has a lot of upside if sentiment changes. By hook or by crook, it's now profitable (finally), and if Morgan's correct that the housing situation will get better, B of A will be a major beneficiary. More clarity around mortgage litigation and Europe could also be catalysts. So could a real dividend (though don't hold your breath for the near term) or just about any favorable economic news -- like Travis' prediction of lower unemployment.

Yes, Bank of America was last year's biggest loser. And, yes, at the beginning of 2011, I also thought B of A would be the biggest winner of the 30 stocks in the Dow (INDEX: ^DJI  ) . Maybe I'll finally be right. Maybe I'll be spectacularly wrong again this year. Either way, it's a good reminder to take all these predictions with massive amounts of salt.

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Anand Chokkavelu owns shares of Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, and Wells Fargo. He also owns warrants on JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, and Wells Fargo and long-dated options on Bank of America. The Motley Fool owns shares of Citigroup, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, and JPMorgan, and has created a covered strangle position on Wells Fargo. We Fools don't all hold the same opinions, but we all believe that considering a diverse range of insights makes us better investors. The Motley Fool has a disclosure policy.


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  • Report this Comment On January 21, 2012, at 9:15 AM, JacksonInVA wrote:

    If we are going to break up only 1 big bank it must be Goldman Sachs. They obviously have low ethics and have too much influence over the world economy.

  • Report this Comment On January 21, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Chontichajim wrote:

    I think the optimistic housing forecast is the least likely, but I understand housing is regional and we get little idea of what the national market is like in the Bay Area. Between absorbing existing houses from the previous boom and adding rentals for additional growth there probably won't a lot of new single family home building. Maybe in other parts of the country there could be. I'm thinking another year for K&B to stay on the watch list and hope they are still there in 2013.

    It would be ironic if B of A split a few years after absorbing Countrywide Financial, but I still can't believe they took on than mess of a company to begin with.

  • Report this Comment On January 21, 2012, at 3:30 PM, markczz wrote:

    All the predictions are ignoring the elephant in the room, the Federal Deficit. Either through political change or economic reality, it has to impact the wallets of every person through cuts or increased taxes.

    While I am sure they can keep the elephant hidden through election day, eventually the reality of bad US credit will haunt all investors. Greece is negotiating a rollback on the face value of bonds, the US is more likely to inflate itself out of problems.

    That is good for housing, but bad for fixed income investments and the stock market... and oh by the way, when the feds finally get to cutting costs, there will have to be a reduction of 1-2 million federal jobs.

    Anybody see any other way out?

  • Report this Comment On January 21, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Davemuse wrote:

    Morgan, how can you predict an up-tick in housing? The numbers you cite are suspect because there is no accurate accounting of dissolved households -- those who have lost jobs and end up living with relatives or friends. Dissolving will unfortunately continue thru 2012 (and beyond) until we start creating enough jobs to employ those folks, putting them both on the employment rolls and households in housing units. There will be some new housing starts, especially for the wealthy who can afford to build what they want. Housing requires income to pay for it, and that supply is contracting, not increasing, both in earned income and jobs.

  • Report this Comment On January 21, 2012, at 3:52 PM, TMFHousel wrote:

    Thanks for the comments.

    <<and oh by the way, when the feds finally get to cutting costs, there will have to be a reduction of 1-2 million federal jobs.>>

    There are currently 2.8 million federal jobs (2.2m sans postal service), so that sounds fairly alarmist.

    <<Morgan, how can you predict an up-tick in housing? The numbers you cite are suspect because there is no accurate accounting of dissolved households -- those who have lost jobs and end up living with relatives or friends.>>

    The household formation figures do account for the drop caused by the recession. These are surveys done by the Census Bureau.

  • Report this Comment On January 21, 2012, at 4:33 PM, kahunacfa wrote:

    "<b>Morgan Housel:</b> First, let's be honest: No one can predict the future, especially when confined to something like one year. Remember, there's nothing special about a year; it's just the time it takes for the Earth to revolve around the sun. Whether a prediction takes place in one year or 18 months or three years shouldn't be important."

    Actually WRONG. People predict the future and get paid well to do so. For example: Every year, actually every month, Abby Joseph Cohn at Goldman Sachs<http://www.GoldmanSachs.com gets paid seven or eight figures to predict the future every month. For the most part her predictions about the economy and markets are right-on. That is why she makes 6 or 7 figures.

    In the nineteen eighties I used to make six figures to research technology companies and help, with a team, manage a large, multi-million dollar Venture Capital portfolio. The film, "Nine-to-Five" and "Take This Job and Shove It" were examples of two filmes produced with the help of our investment. We prdicted the future: -- That people would pay to go see the films. We were correct.

    October 1974 I built an Econometric Model, that ran on a Mainframe that forecast the 1972-1975 Recession would end in the first quarter of 1975. Accordingly we bought shares of companies selling for less than six times projected EPS <another correct forecast>. Companies bought November & December 1974: Abbott Laboratories(ABT), Baxter(BAX), Beckman Instruments(BEC), IBM, Bourroughs(BGH), Hospital Corp. of America(HSP), Eli Lilly(LLY), Merck(MRK), NCR, and Xerox(XRX). Bought these companies for this portfolio, http://UWASAP.org, and a local, Madison, Wisconsin Insurance company.

    Kahuna, CFA

    Venture Capital

    Portfolio Manager

    1977 - Present

  • Report this Comment On January 21, 2012, at 4:44 PM, kahunacfa wrote:

    <b>Travis Hoium:</b> Unemployment will drop to 7.5%. The employment picture has been improving faster than many expected, especially if you look at the right data. Widely reported non-farm payrolls have increased moderately, adding a bit over 600,000 jobs in the last four months. But a separate survey of households shows that that number exceeds a million. This data may be more accurate because it comes from households, not businesses, so it includes new business and very small business additions that the non-farm payroll number may miss.

    Consumers, the driver of the U.S. economy, are also feeling a little more chipper than they have in a long time, as indicated by the Consumer Confidence Index jump to 64.5 in December.

    A 7.5% unemployment rate may be a stretch from today's 8.5%, but I think a positive economic spiral will take hold in 2012. Strong corporate balance sheets, relatively low taxes, and years of underinvestment will be the fuel that drives the employment picture back next year.

    WRONG again. Unemployment is very, very unlikely to drop below 8% during 2012. Reasons: 1. Civilian work force will expand as forces return from Iraq, Afgahnistan to an economy with NO Jobs at a competitive, reasonable compensation level.

    Example, I decided to re-enter the work force, after being Retired since the end of 1995. Rather than interview for the NO JOBS out there, decided to start a new Venture Capital Limited Partnership with two other Investment and biotechnology executives. One of us has a Ph.D. in a Medical Science, one has a MBA University of Chicago, cum laude, and a MS Finance & Economics University of Wisconsin - Madison.

    We are creating jobs, our own and several jobs for staff to be hired during 2012.

    Kahuna,CFA

    Venture Capital

    General Partner

    le 21 janvier 2012

  • Report this Comment On January 21, 2012, at 5:12 PM, Firecaptain9 wrote:

    The best thing BAC could do is declare Bankrupsy for it's seperate Countrywide division.

    This would send a Much needed message to the Feds to stop worsening the recession by fighting the Banks in Court.

    BAC will emerge a super Bank once the garbage is repaired, but that will takn time, as for now it is still undervalued.

    Housing has no where to go at present. Not only have people lost their homes due to lack of jobs, but many who are working and can afford their payments have walked away from their houses because they have depriciated in value. All these people are no longer potential buyers because no bank will loan to these people since they are bad risks and that will follow them for many years.

    Our economy depends on Building, Contractors cannot build a house that costs them $200,000 to build that will only sell for $125,000 in todays market. This is putting Millions of people out of work. (suppliers etc..).

    2012 will be a very good year (on paper), why? Because it is an election year. I fully expect the un-employment numbers and housing numbers to be fuged on the part of our elected officials to build their image.

    There is a simple way out of many of our problems, I have been writing all my Political leaders for the Past 3 years trying to get through their thick skulls. When finally some Cities and States tried it, they were ridiculed for tearing down houses that could be given to the homeless.

    Our housing problems are Basic suppy vs. demand. We have 11mil more house that we have occupants. Tear down 12mil foreclosed houses that are not desireable, far from present code standards and not energy efficient.

    Then all of a sudden we have a houseing shortage and everybody goes back to work to keep upo with the demand to produce these houses.

    Also, encourage the Banks to go after the people who walked away from their loans (like they do in Canada), Canada is not experiancing the Foreclosure problem anything like we are because people cannot just walk away.

  • Report this Comment On January 22, 2012, at 5:51 AM, cn01 wrote:

    I predict a black swan--a war with Iran, perhaps, instability in the Gulf states, the discovery of large new oil reserves in the West, or a major earthquake--that will destroy all predictions.

  • Report this Comment On January 27, 2012, at 11:41 AM, mrbillCZ wrote:

    Thx for predictions and comments all...Fed recently predicted 8.2% unemployment for 2012, not dropping below that till 2013/14. I am looking at home improvement projects to slow before I see housing sales uptick. I think another barometer is small-bus lending since the Fed is not proposing raising rates for another 3 yrs....

  • Report this Comment On January 27, 2012, at 5:09 PM, xetn wrote:

    I always like this quote from Harry Browne:

    The investment advisor with the perfect record up to now will lose

    his touch as soon as you start acting on his advice.

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