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Here's a classic underground question from the last century, a sort of Rorschach test of popular culture that you can pose to your friends and acquaintances: Just who was Chuck Taylor, of Converse basketball sneaker fame? I personally grew up in the heyday of Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, and erroneously believed when I was younger that Taylor had been a bench-bound teammate of Julius Erving, the legendary "Dr. J."

In fact, Chuck Taylor was an amateur basketball player from a much-earlier era and, in addition, a coach and shoe salesman. Born in 1901, Taylor joined a traveling basketball team in 1921 for the Converse Rubber Shoe company, which had introduced its first basketball shoe, the Converse All Star, four years earlier. Taylor made numerous suggestions to improve the shoe, and was such a successful promoter of the sneaker that the company eventually added his name to the ankle patch. 


Today, Converse is a billion dollar brand owned by Nike  (NYSE: NKE  ) , which acquired the company in 2003 for $305 million. Nike decided, at the time of acquisition, to allow Converse to operate independently, a wise one considering how Chuck Taylor sneakers, lovingly called "Chuck Taylors" by their fans, and the larger Converse brand, have appealed to both athletically minded and fashion-conscious shoe buyers, as well as many subcultures, over the decades.

Why Converse is important to Nike
Owning Converse benefits Nike serially. Most strikingly, the $305-million dollar purchase price turned out to be a highly efficient investment for Nike, as today, it reaps revenues over four times that amount each year from Converse. The company's total revenue, as reported by Nike for 2012, was $1.32 billion.

Nike doesn't often buy other companies to supplement its Swoosh-branded revenue, and it exercises discipline in pruning acquisitions that don't meet expectations. In the last year, Nike divested itself of its well-known Umbro and Cole Haan brands, in order to focus on just four brands: Nike, Jordan, Converse, and the Hurley surf-wear line. Converse and Hurley, together with Nike Golf, comprise a segment which Nike labels "Other Businesses." This segment accounts for for 9.5% of Nike's revenue, and nearly 14% of Nike's Earnings Before Interest and Taxes, or EBIT. Converse's share of the "Other Businesses" revenue has grown steadily: three years after the acquisition, Converse accounted for 23% of "Other Businesses" revenue. As of year-end 2012, Converse accounted for 43% of the segment's revenue, and this number is likely to have grown once we see the full results for fiscal 2013 later this summer.

For a company that was founded the year that "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" was registered for copyright, Converse is growing at a much faster rate than its parent company. Between 2008 and 2012, Nike's compounded annual growth rate, or CAGR, was 5.3%. Converse's CAGR over the same period was more than twice as fast, at 12.7%. Of course, one can't expect a company of $24 billion in revenue to grow as fast as a subsidiary which is roughly 18 times smaller. But you can bet that Nike executives are pleased with the return on the original investment.

Converse also provides Nike with label diversification. For consumers with name brand fatigue, or those who admire a cheap, low-tech sneaker with an evergreen aura of cool, Converse is one of the few options in the marketplace that is also well-made and aesthetically pleasing. When shopping for sneakers, you don't have to buy an engineered shoe with the Swoosh logo, but many are unaware that when they are buying Converse, they are also buying Nike.

The economics of a desirable global brand
Foot Locker (NYSE: FL  ) is a $6.2 billion concern, and though its primary market is the U.S., it is also the largest retailer of athletic footwear in Europe, with a presence in 19 countries. The company uses the strength of globally renowned brands like Converse to entice young, urban, hip customers into its European stores. Converse enjoys a reputation among younger Europeans as an edgy and rebellious brand, and Foot Locker features Converse and Chuck Taylors prominently on its European home page. It also engages Converse for exclusive products and co-marketing, such as the popular "Street Ready Pro Leather Vulc" line of Converse high-tops. Foot Locker can ride Converse's prominence in introducing itself to a younger consumer in Barcelona, Rome, London, Prague, and other major cities. The thrust is selling shoes, but it's also about upping Foot Locker's cachet in metropolitan areas. This is an example of how the economics of truly global billion-dollar brands extend beyond the company that owns the trademarks.

And there is a reciprocal benefit for Nike beyond Converse sales. If Converse entices young shoppers into European (and U.S.-based) Foot Locker stores, there's not a small probability that Nike will get affiliated sales. This is due to the plethora of Nike items in a typical Foot Locker Store. In fact, Foot Locker might also be thought of as "Nike's Locker" -- last year, it bought 65% of its merchandise for resale from Nike. 

If you buy a killer brand, set it free
By avoiding the temptation to replace the old-school Converse star logo with the Nike Swoosh, Nike demonstrated 10 years ago a strategic understanding of what the Converse brand might mean to it in the future. And the best case scenario has largely come to pass. Nike has achieved revenue diversification without cannibalizing its flagship products. This is a very basic question in mergers and acquisition: What will create the most long-term value -- to keep or change the branding of the acquired company? In the case of Converse, Nike answered correctly.

All of the characteristics that make Converse so valuable to Nike throw into relief a long-term risk that the overall company faces: it is primarily concentrated in a single brand, and is dependent on continuous innovation and technological advances to maintain sales, while being subject to fierce competition. Nike would love to acquire several more Converses. The problem is that there just aren't many more originals like Converse around; rather, there are few options for Nike to replicate this success. Anyone who has hitched up a pair of long, flat, white laces through fourteen steel ringlets stamped into a featherweight canvas shoe, anchored by a surprisingly comfortable, thin slab of rubber, would recognize why. 

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  • Report this Comment On July 17, 2013, at 12:56 AM, powersatch wrote:

    Cool, I love Chuck Taylors and had no idea they were owned by Nike. I bought 2 pairs a few years back -- a black pair and a brown pair. The black pair got stolen by my ex-girlfriend before I even had a chance to wear them. I've lifted weights as a hobby for the past 30 years, and I only wear my Chuck Taylors to the gym on leg day. They are the best shoe for squats and stiff-legged deadlifts without a doubt. However, I wouldn't recommend them for running, walking, or for even playing basketball. The soles are really hard and stiff and there is no arch support so your feet easily get tired. Other than that, the blue pair in your photo looks super cool. I think I'll go with blue next time.

    Disclosure: Long NKE

  • Report this Comment On July 17, 2013, at 2:06 AM, TMFfinosus wrote:

    Hey powersatch,

    Full disclosure: I own a low-top blue pair. The low-tops I think are less stiff than high tops and more comfortable generally. Back in the day, I wore a grey pair which I really thought had a lot of character.

    I think your ex-girlfriend had some fashion sense to take off with the black Chucks.

    Thanks for reading and commenting!


  • Report this Comment On July 19, 2013, at 2:07 PM, user5701 wrote:

    "What will create the most long-term value -- to keep or change the branding of the acquired company? In the case of Converse, Nike answered correctly."

    How do you know Nike answered correctly? What is the long term value Nike had by changing the branding, that you are comparing to, to arrive at your statement?

  • Report this Comment On July 19, 2013, at 5:42 PM, TMFfinosus wrote:

    Hi user5701,

    Actually, my article explains that Nike did not change the branding of Converse, so I'm not sure I quite follow your question. Under Nike's distribution, Converse's revenues have increased steadily, and as I point out, the brand is growing at a rate that's twice as fast as the rest of the company. Nike doesn't disclose Converse's profit margin, but after the fiscal year report due out soon, we will see the numbers of "Other Businesses" without the discontinued Umbro and Cole Haan lines. We likely be able to see that Converse comprises more than 50% of this segment, which in the latest quarter posted EBIT % growth that was second only to North America among Nike's eight operating segments. I believe that as a standalone, Converse today would trade at a higher multiple than Nike on a sales or EBITDA basis. And possibly as valued by the market (meaning that it would sport a higher PE as a standalone). So Nike has certainly created much value beyond quadrupling the revenues of Converse in 10 years. It is very hard to conceive that Nike could have replicated this success by substituting the Swoosh logo on a Converse sneaker, for the reasons outlined in the article.

    Does this help? Let me know if I can clarify or feel free to email me if you want to discuss valuation further -- just click my name at top of the article for my email.

    Thanks for the question,


  • Report this Comment On July 20, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Bunnyking77 wrote:

    As long as they keep making comfortable shoes for $100 or less, they can do whatever they want with chucks.

    Those things are uncomfortable and although iconic. Kind of ugly.

  • Report this Comment On July 26, 2013, at 2:55 PM, ChuckT17 wrote:

    Unfortunately Nike has killed off the Converse basketball line. This up coming NBA season will be the first ever without someone wearing Converse. Chuck Taylor wouldn't want his name associated with a Converse that has quit basketball.

    They is room for both a performance and lifestyle brand. Don't get me wrong, I love what NIke has done with Converse...just not what it's stopped doing.

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