Does This Latest Obamacare Figure Surprise You?

You could certainly say it's been a tale of two worlds between the majority of 14 state-run health exchanges and the federally run health exchange, Healthcare.gov, since everything went live on Oct. 1.

Let's be clear that state-run exchanges have not been perfect -- even for the states that have seen the biggest number of enrollments so far. California, the state most important to Obamacare meeting its enrollment target in 2014 of 7 million newly insured people, has had numerous technical issues that have prevented users from creating an account, the first step in the process needed before you can obtain an accurate quote. Even my home state of Washington dealt with a series of server overloads within the first couple of days, which derailed or delayed some people from signing up for health insurance.

However, all things considered, the personalization and differentiation of each state-run exchange has made fixing them easier, and the assumption based on early figures is that enrollment on state exchanges is cumulatively equal to or possibly even higher than that of the federal exchange.

The federally run exchanges, though, have been nothing short of the administration's worst nightmare. What many had figured was nothing more than overloaded servers after the first couple of days has turned out to be an architectural disaster with no easy fix. The administration, according to the USA Today, has begun reaching outside its list of contractors and is extending an offer to Verizon (NYSE: VZ  ) to come help diagnose Healthcare.gov's many problems. The move makes sense given Verizon's networking expertise when it comes to integrating data across the nation, but I have my doubts as to whether Verizon alone can solve what appear to be serious problems for Healthcare.gov.

Compounding the problems associated with the opening of Obamacare's health exchanges was the 16-day government shutdown precipitated by, among other things, a political spat over the medical device excise tax between Democrats and Republicans.

I bet you didn't see this coming
You could certainly argue that the launch of Healthcare.gov couldn't have possibly gone worse -- yet here's the real shock: Sentiment toward Obamacare is actually improving.

According to data gathered by The Huffington Post from seven separate polls conducted recently, six of them demonstrate that the number of people polled who view Obamacare favorably is improving. Here's a quick snapshot of the data Huffington Post aggregated to the generalized question of whether respondents approved of the health reform law known as Obamacare:

Poll Source

Aug./Sept. Poll Positive

Aug./Sept. Poll Negative

October Poll Positive

October Poll Negative

Gallup

41%

49%

45%

50%

CBS News

39%

51%

43%

51%

CNN/ORC

38%

57%

41%

56%

ABC/Post

42%

52%

46%

49%

Pew Research

42%

53%

41%

52%

Rasmussen Reports

43%

53%

46%

48%

NBC/Wall Street Journal

31%

43%

38%

43%

Source: The Huffington Post. Numbers may not add to 100% due to rounding and other options such as "no opinion" or "refused to answer." 

With the exception of Pew Research's poll, which saw positive sentiment toward Obamacare decline by 1%, respondents in the remaining six polls demonstrated more favorability toward the health reform law. Similarly, negativity surround the law increased in only one poll (Gallup's), while remaining constant in two others and dropping in the remaining four.

Let's have a look at some of the factors that could be influencing this sentiment shift and see how that could affect your portfolio.

Why has sentiment for Obamacare improved?
We can't avoid one of the obvious factors here, which is political. When it comes to investing, we often like to avoid politics if at all possible because it rarely has any long-term bearing on our investing thesis. However, with the Republican Party receiving a good amount of public backlash for the length of the government shutdown, respondents in the latest poll appear to be siding less with Republicans and have taken a more favorable view of Obamacare.

Another factor likely playing into Obamacare's approval rating is growing understanding of the law. As we saw just weeks before the health exchanges opened to the public, there were an enormous number of polled respondents who had little to no knowledge of the law or how it would affect them. I suspect this figure is still very high, but the ongoing press (whether good or bad) that Obamacare merits is helping to improve consumer education. As evidence to this, I would point to the seven polls above. In five of the seven, the number of positive or negative views as an aggregate has grown with exception of the Pew Research and Rasmussen Reports poll. To me, this signals that respondents are more opinionated, and therefore more informed than before.

The end of speculation and the move into reality is another strong factor that can't be overlooked. Prior to the exchange rollout, there was a tug-of-war between optimists and pessimists as to what would actually happen. Now -- with 25 days under our belt of live enrollment activity -- while the results haven't been optimal, there are roughly a half-million people or more who have been able to submit their application for health insurance. Seeing the concrete results of years of reform is a strong action that's beginning to sway consumer sentiment.

What does this mean for your portfolio?
The clear beneficiary to an improving approval scenario would be insurers like UnitedHealth Group (NYSE: UNH  ) that would be in line to see more members eager to sign up for health insurance. Understandably adverse selection should see those people who are currently sick or have preexisting conditions signing up first and boosting insurers' expenses, but over the long run this could be great news for a company like UnitedHealth. Let's remember that UnitedHealth decided to keep its nose out of many of the individual insurance markets until at least 2015, so improving sentiment would certainly be important to the company relative to some of its peers which dove into more than a dozen individual health exchanges.

Hospital operators like Tenet Healthcare (NYSE: THC  ) would see benefits to growing optimism surrounding the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act as well. Each year, hospitals like Tenet provide emergency care to those in need, and each year a significant number of those patients have no insurance or are unable to pay their bill. Last year, Tenet wrote off $785 million in revenue as uncollectable because of services rendered to uninsured or underinsured persons. A more favorable view of the ACA should portend more signups and fewer instances of nonpayment moving forward, which ultimately adds to Tenet's bottom line.

This is also a potential boost for the entire pharmacy-benefits and drug delivery business. Pharmacy operator Walgreen (NYSE: WAG  ) has been a very vocal promoter of Obamacare for months since it understands that an influx of enrollees could create a boom in pharmaceutical prescriptions. Those prescriptions have to go somewhere, and Walgreen figures: Why not its stores? For the year that just ended, Walgreen reported just a 0.4% increase in prescriptions filled despite owning 19.1% of all retail pharmacy market share. Obamacare, therefore offers Walgreen a path to accelerate its prescription growth once again.

Similarly, this could be a great opportunity for pharmacy-benefits management company Express Scripts (NASDAQ: ESRX  ) to shine. More prescriptions written mean more drug delivery orders for Express Scripts. With generic fill rates moving higher, pricing power is improving for both PBMs like Express Scripts and end retailers like Walgreen, which should have a net positive effect on margins.

Clearly for optimists and investors in these stocks to feel comfortable, they'd like to see an extension of this trend toward ACA-favorability last longer than just a month, but it's nonetheless a good start for the time being.

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  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 7:58 PM, PaulPhoenix wrote:

    Over 40% of people view the ACA as positive?

    What doctoring is going on to get this result?

    Even liberals are realizing what a mistake this was,

    and what a total failure the President is on soooo many issues, such as:

    1.) Jobs

    2.) Race relations

    3.) America's standing worldwide

    4.) Transparency

    I could go on forever baby.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 7:59 PM, hambone1969 wrote:

    But honestly, where is the shock? Obama never ran a lemonade stand, let alone a small business, and forget a fortune 500 company. Heck, he NEVER worked in private industry. He had, and still has, ZERO business or managerial experience. So I'm not surprised at all that this is an abject failure. Any good manager, let alone leader, would follow up with his team and get updates and then VERIFY what he or she is being fed. SHOW ME THE WORK. He's just a delegator who doesn't know how to lead or verify what his minions are doing.

    The ultimate in the by-stander President.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:09 PM, GVK2902 wrote:

    The Republican's greatest fear is that Obamacare will work. It will, not, perfectly, but it will improve.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:11 PM, GVK2902 wrote:

    Hambone, sounds like you're talking about G.W. Bush. His so-called oil company never made a dime.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:15 PM, RFTECH3000 wrote:

    if you look at the negative numbers you see that they have not budged !

    The "improvement " in the numbers obviously comes from people who were undecided before !

    The other factor that does not play into this YET are people who are getting their insurance cancelled, a total of 16M americans will receive cancellation notices before the end of December and so far insurance companies have only send out 1.2M scarlet letters so far , so unless all of those people are gonna jump for joy about having to pay more it is safe to assume that those numbers will get much worse between now and december

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:16 PM, davidr23832 wrote:

    What result do you expect from the liberal Huffington Post survey

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:16 PM, RFTECH3000 wrote:

    GVK2902

    In your dreams - in your dreams !

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:18 PM, pellapoo wrote:

    As you can see these fake polls are all done by ultra liberal groups! Take them with a grain of sea salt!

    This hot mess Obama has got us into can not sustain itself in the long haul. There are enough private sector online insurance companies to do what needed to be done and they have been doing it for years! This is just another CONTROL issue Democrats have. They had to find some way to get everyone under their thumb, not just the entitlement bunch as they can be bribed with anything that's so called free!

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:19 PM, RFTECH3000 wrote:

    The next whammy is already in the wings - CBS reported the other day that the rates people are getting on the exchanges are grossly inaccurate , they are way lower than where they really are !

    So many people who sign up will wake up to a nice sticker shock when they get the bill

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:22 PM, RFTECH3000 wrote:

    progressives actually believe that companies don't pass any tax increases and regulatory fees on to consumers , that right there should tell you just how much of a clue they have about economy

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:25 PM, RFTECH3000 wrote:

    Show me one blue state or municipality that is NOT broke or close to being broke!

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Hotubs wrote:

    I have always said before, if you think health care is expensive now, wait til it's free.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:30 PM, RFTECH3000 wrote:

    here is how libs think :

    1.) we need more revenue lets raise taxes on companies and the wealthy !

    - as a result companies reduce their workforce and the wealthy shift their investments to bonds

    2.) the revenue projected from the tax increase fell short of our projections how can this be ? lets raise the taxes even more

    - as a result companies are moving out of state

    3,) tax revenue dropped even more , there must be some loopholes lets find those loopholes

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:30 PM, RFTECH3000 wrote:

    there is no such thing as a free lunch - or free healthcare

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:31 PM, handiman wrote:

    pellapoo

    Wall street journal and Rassmussen are not considered ulta liberal

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:32 PM, aoversier wrote:

    The reason I moved to this sight is to not have to deal with Huff Post

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:33 PM, IloveLinux wrote:

    The Tea Party and GOP hate the ACA but it was the The Heritage Foundation plan that President Obama used and they are CONSERVATIVES. People are upset about the cost but what made more sense. Taking care of people in Emergency rooms or getting them care BEFORE their problems become chronic.

    Okay if you hate the ACA. Then what's the plan? We need a plan. What we had wasn't working for millions of Americans.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Jack143 wrote:

    The problem with ACA is that it seems to be based on Romneycare which is too be blunt a fiscal nightmare. Romneycare is so expensive that federal taxpayers had to pickup most of the cost for the citizens of MASS. 12k per person and accord to BlueCross BlueShield of MASS 18k per person by 2020. So yes the software roll out was poor but the product could be much much worse.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:39 PM, quasimodo2013 wrote:

    Gkv2902 republicans biggest fear is your leader will absolutely ruin the American working class.

    obamacare makes American citizens thousands of dollars a year more expensive to employ then they were 2 years ago and with him pushing his immigration reform bill now and making new immigrants exempt from paying and collecting obamacare thousands of dollars a year cheaper to employ then American citizens your first black president could absolutely destroy this country and its economy

    I doubt very much obamacare working is a republicans biggest fear I am not a republican and even I don't fear it succeeding I fear the repercussions of it succeeding combined with his immigration reform bill getting backdoored thru and put into law

    Obama and the democratic party is set to completely destroy the American way of life it started with Clinton signing into law nafta and allowing big business to ship all our manufacturing jobs to other countries that wasn't good enough for big business now they have paid the democratic party to bring cheap foreign labor on to American soil and have just cause to fire every American citizen they employ so they can have higher profit margins, that is what I fear and I am sure many in the republican party fear the same obamacare is just one more step in the democratic agenda to make us all slaves working for what ever scraps they decide to throw our way

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:41 PM, genedale wrote:

    I wonder how accurate those signup totals are. How many who signed up actually got a healthcare plan? And how many signed up just so they could find out how much it would cost and then left without healthcare because of the cost? After all, the site is designed so that you have to sign in (and answer a lot of personal questions) in order to find out the cost. That's the way this administration guarantees a high signup rate.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:47 PM, QuickDraw53 wrote:

    i am not surprised that the data read the way it did. if the huffington post has anything to do with it you can bet it was fixed to make obamacare look better then it really is. its sad the a liberal paper has to doctor up stats to make everything obama does look good

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:50 PM, rwhprism wrote:

    This program is in an insurance "death spiral" To insurance companies, a death spiral is when too many sick needing to collect sign up and not enough heathy are paying in. The cost to insure goes up because most have to be paid out. This makes it even less likely anyone heathy would find affordable rates. They opt out, the company spirals towards death. This whole law needs to be repealed.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:51 PM, PJSolarz wrote:

    I'd like to see these polls results after the people are able to get on the site and find out what the costs and deductibles will be. This plan is all dependent on the 18-30 group to join and pay the subsidies for everyone else. This age group first off is still covered on their parents policy until age 26. What incentive is there for them to get a job and pay their own way? Secondly, this is the age group hardest hit in the job market.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:52 PM, fedupwithObama wrote:

    Any information from Huffington is biased and not reliable. Obamacare is one facet of Obama's objective of degrading all aspects that has made the U. S. A. a great nation...he is the best ally that our enemies have and was elected by an uninformed ignorant electorate or stupid people.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:54 PM, rwhprism wrote:

    When the data is finally released we will see about 500,000 americans with pre-existing conditions got heath insurance. Dividing the cost of Obamacare by 500,000 will mean about $6 million PER PERSON helped and higher rates for all of the rest. Its a terrible law. It would have been way better to use the public welfare safety nets for those who need it. You could have bought these high risks off for 1/10th the cost.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:54 PM, slanciano wrote:

    Obozo is always seen as the outsider and never associated as part of the problems he himself created. He's in constant campaign mode and a bystander to his own presidency. Never seen pulling the levers of government so he cannot be blamed.

    Low information voters will never understand this interesting facet. Welcome to another 4 years of nightmare America. Hopefully you'll awaken in time for the year 2016.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:56 PM, TuChingadaMadre wrote:

    I will NOT participate!

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Dayo2 wrote:

    It may be time for many Americans to move to one of the top0 10 medical nations to survive Denmark provides tax-financed health care to all residents. Hospital and primary care are free of charge and there is limited cost-sharing for dental care, outpatient prescription drugs, and optometry services. Roughly two in five residents have complementary private insurance to cover cost-sharing and services not fully covered by the state, such as physiotherapy, and one in five residents has supplementary insurance that covers access to private-care providers and facilities. Five regions have responsibility for most medical services, including hospitals and primary care, while long term care is a collaborative effort between the regions and the 98 municipalities. Municipalities also play a significant role in planning public health services. Self-employed general practitioners act as gatekeepers to secondary care and are

    paid through a combination of capitation (30%) and fee-for-service. Nearly all hospitals are publicly owned, and hospital physicians are paid a salary. Non–hospital-based specialists are paid on a fee-for-service basis. Recent reforms have sought to bolster the performance of the hospital sector through centralizing administration and infrastructure investments. Other policies have focused on improving care pathways for life-threatening diseases and implementing wait time guarantees.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 9:04 PM, doco177 wrote:

    Fathom The Hypocrisy Of A Government That Requires Every Citizen To Prove They Are Insured....But Not Everyone Must Prove They Are A Citizen.

    And Now, Any Of Those Who Refuse, Or Are Unable To Prove They Are Citizens Will Receive FREE Insurance Paid For By Those Who Are Forced To Buy Insurance Because They Are Citizens.

    Google "Obamacare Flowchart" at Intellectual Takeout to see what convoluted, corrupt mess this thing really is

    Congress,Muslims, Amish, Native Americans are exempt from mandate and penalties under Obamacare that the rest of us have to pay.

    The govt becoming more involved in health care is the reason the costs have increased. So Govt creates a crisis, then provides a solution that comes at the expense of liberty and freedom, costs trillions, and by most accounts won't solve the problem but in fact make it far worse.Corruption, incompetence, disregard of the Constitution, and lying are integral to the way that this country is being run.

    Three years ago, Obama, Democrats, and his media lied to us about cutting the cost of health care, being able to keep our insurance, and not taxing the middle class. Today, those lies and what ObamaCare is and will do to the working and middle class are the biggest untold story in America.

    REFUSE and Repeal Obamacare...If only a mere 20% of the over 300 million population of the USA boycott Obamacare the government would be overwhelmed to even think they could penalize or mandate every citizen that refused to participate in the most corrupt and unlawful ways which it was passed that circumvented the constitution of the United States

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 9:11 PM, racollard wrote:

    Really Motley Fool? Over half of those in that poll are liberal news outlets!!!

    To the person who said maybe USA should move on to what Denmark is doing. Well, when Denmark has our population, and not only that, but doctor to patient ratio that we have here, then get back to me on how well Denmark is doing.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 9:12 PM, LamaDave wrote:

    Informed? Maybe not. Let's see the breakdown of the numbers, who is signing up for what. There is an uncomfortable, for Obama supporters, rumor going around that many of the people "signing up" are actually doing so in Medicaid NOT Obamacare. Combine that with the modified adverse selection that is bound to happen if young people don't sign up in droves and it will turn out that the website incompetence is just another shiny object distracting from the high probability that Obamacare will not do ANY of the things it is touted to provide. Affordable care and insuring most of the uninsured. And just wait 'til the bill comes due.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 9:22 PM, dagonunijav wrote:

    Let me put this most simply. The Obama administration has unlimited resources and easily hires people to report these things so that it appears favorable. I assure you that anyone who joins the completely unaffordable "Affordable Care Act" sees the truth robbing them blind. It's lies. Obama is as close to a dictator in America as anyone in history has seen. His intentions are not to make people feel good but to collapse the system because he feels Americans are stupid. He has been caught saying so. Not only should you not believe the lies but you should at least question everything. Media is in his pocket so they cannot be trusted to deliver the truth. He will destroy this nation and that is his pleasure and reward. He hates America and everything it stands for. Pay close attention and I would suggest getting active about calling out the lies and alerting others to them as I have. Most people pay almost double their premiums and some get kicked off their current health care who have pre-existing conditions. If/when this implodes there will be hell to pay for those who went into the slaughter. He hates all religious people and is an enemy of God. Don't take my word for it. Find out for yourself. The truth is available to those who have wisdom to see through the lies.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 9:24 PM, davidzzz wrote:

    Hillary/Davis 2016 16 Years! Yea!!!!!

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 9:26 PM, gekkolies wrote:

    You can tell Obama thanks for me. Instead of buying his lame insurance....I'm going to pay the fine and take a trip to Tahiti!

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 9:27 PM, ALSleet wrote:

    For the bright people who say "What result do you expect from the liberal Huffington Post survey"...did you not see the other 7 surveys? They posted them so you didn't say...well, that's only one survey. And you said it anyway.

    Apparently if it's not from fox, limbaugh or ann coulter...it didn't happen.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 9:39 PM, mikesuther wrote:

    So tell me this, almost all of the middle income people I know have had increases in the amount they are paying for their insurance. my parents who are retired had their insurance premiums go up 300 dollars/month. My insurance through work is going to go up. The other major problem there is more loops you have to jump through to get medications and services. By no means is this any cheaper. I work in the healthcare industry and I pay more for insurance than most of the government workers. I don't claim to know everything about obamacare. But why put our country in more debt....trillions more in debt because of this healthcare. I agree costs need to be changed within healthcare but not an overhaul. I hope Obama's healthcare rates go up just like everyone else's. I hope things work out better than what I think they will turn out. Why in the past would people from Canada come here for healthcare before? hmmmm....wonder why? because they have to wait a stinking long time to see a doctor. later

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 9:48 PM, psychodad54 wrote:

    Wow, what a BS article...

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 9:51 PM, sunshine4848 wrote:

    I wonder how many know that this is going to happen to them .. for me My Priority Health insurance was canceled . I had that insurance for over 14 years ,

    I was forced to take insurance that has mush higher deductibles and a trip to the ER went up 150.00 just the facts '

    Daily Beast columnist Kirsten Powers, who has been an Obamacare supporter, admitted on “The Kelly File” Thursday that her insurance premiums will nearly double from $160 per month to about $300 per month if she wants to keep the same deductible.

    The reality of higher premiums and the broken promise that Americans can keep their current health care plans isn’t “quite the way they sold it,” she said.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Jeffnotgeoff wrote:

    The greatest trick the devil ever pulled is convincing people he doesn't exist.

    The greatest trick Obama has pulled is convincing people ACA is free.

    When these knuckleheads find themselves paying $300.00+ a month and $10,000.00 + in co-pays they may realize that their ignorance is rampant....then again maybe we have de-evolved so much that people won't see their ignorance in voting for this plan.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 9:56 PM, Maseo12 wrote:

    i dont really care about any of this, can we just skip the BS and become Great Britain/Canada; I'm done fighting for America...clearly most people dont care...so lets just end our BS 2 party system and just call things by what they are: parliament, king, mandate, universal...these are all words we should get to know and feel comfortable using

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 9:58 PM, SLTom992 wrote:

    If there was one media I'd jump to pay attention to it's the Huffington Post (not!!!)

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:01 PM, chicadave wrote:

    youre are right the current healthcare system is not working for millions of Americans....but...obamacare is not working for millions of americans either,,in fact if you do the math...there will be millions more forced into poverty or lower class of life style due to the change of annual gross income limits for Medicare eligibility and forcing people to pay for something they cannot afford which in an around about but hard hitting way will leave the public much less money to not spend in an already severely ailing economy....

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:04 PM, SLTom992 wrote:

    GVK2902 - Exactly what are you smoking? Obama increases the price of health insurance in 46 of the 50 states. It forces women over 55 to pay for abortion insurance. In most states is DOUBLES the cost of health insurance on the group of people that require insurance the most - young families.

    Regardless of the phoney "studies" companies ARE switching over to part time employees so that they pay no benefits and now the employee must pay the full cost of his own health insurance making him pay even more.

    This program designed by an idiot to fulfill the dream of idiots will in the future be used to describe things that are entirely out of mind crazy.

    Man, you Obama-cared.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:07 PM, TEAPARTYWacko12 wrote:

    Reichwing Nutjob-Tea Party Wackos only make "stupid predictions" about Obamacare based on nothing ... The only "real" problem is the spanking brand new website with glitches ... YAHOO and Google still have glitches and how long have THEY been up and running ...?... Just fix the glitches as you go :::

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:08 PM, TEAPARTYWacko12 wrote:

    Reichwing Nutjob-Tea Party Wackos just left a gaping $24-BILLION hole in the US economy ... and they're claiming "Obamacare" is the problem ...?... :::

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:10 PM, TEAPARTYWacko12 wrote:

    Sooo ... Reichwing Nutjob-Tea Party Wackos went thru all the trouble of forcing 800,000 federal employees to STRIKE for nothing ...?... :::

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:11 PM, emailnodata wrote:

    OMG.

    People want health insurance.

    what a disaster for us all.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:14 PM, RHooverII wrote:

    @IloveLinux

    This is a no brainer open the states so you can get health insurance from anywhere then competition begins. Several states have only one insurance company at the exchange not fifteen or twenty so were is the Obama care competition? Before Obama care 90% of America had health insurance the 10% that did not about 6% did not want insurance, 2% were the illegals, so we are left with a whopping 2% that this was crated for. This is the brain dead mentality. As I mentioned before get rid of the regulations that keep people from going wherever to get insurance problem solved. But the Insurance companies have their hands in politicians pockets including Obama (Last election they gave millions to Obama and to Hillary for the 2016 Democratic primary).

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:15 PM, jrmillet wrote:

    What does this prove? That figures are skewed every day to make a point by these phony liberal "polls."

    Komrade Obama's Commiecare -- like his entire regime -- is a total, complete bust -- a failure.

    Why would anyone who is young, healthy and employed want to dedicate their life's earnings to pay the medical bills of the welfare leeches, illegal immigrants, politicians and other career criminals who refuse to work??? Because Nasty Pelousy threatened that they'll go to jail if they don't? Boy, whatever happened to freedom of choice in America? Individual rights? Or Slick Willy's "entitlements" -- Oh, right, those are only for the segments of society I just mentioned, aren't they?

    Who is doing all the signing up for Commiecare, anyway? I don't know a single soul who has, or has even tried.

    And how are they doing it on a website that doesn't work, never has, and never will, despite the squandering of millions of taxpayer dollars to FOREIGN --yes, foreign -- contractors?

    Failure -- lies -- passing the buck -- stonewalling -- that's all the American public gets from the Obama regime -- and it's all we'll ever get. How else can they make the downfall of America -- and world democracy -- work? And it's working -- just read the headlines -- just NOT in the lapdog American media.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:20 PM, RHooverII wrote:

    @Teapartywacko

    Sorry does not fly your beloved Senate Majority Leader and the worshipped White House loser would not talk to anyone. Six times a budget was passed by the House and Reed would not even talk about it. It was their "MY way or the highway" that cost the 24 million and forced 800,000 federal employees a paid vacation. Through five other government shutdowns no national parks were closed but under Obama day one they close. You sir are delusional in your thought and have the facts along with the truth at home.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:21 PM, ivd wrote:

    Say what you might but this is the first president to make a dent in healthcare reform. Remember, it's a process. Hopefully it's a process that is allowed to evolve with future leaders.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:22 PM, jhlegette wrote:

    This is not a shock to the non indoctrinated.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:29 PM, DeeDee2013 wrote:

    All within the margins of error for those polls. Everyone I talk to despises it. As to fixing glitches, on October 3rd, computer programmer and founder of McAfee, Inc. John McAfee said the online component of Obamacare “will cause “the loss of income for the millions of Americans who are going to lose their identities.” McAfee has odd problems of his own, but no one doubts his know-how about computers. (After selling McAfee, he invested in and advised other computer-fraud preventing companies.)

    McAfee said the way it is set up creates the potential for fake websites be set up to dupe people into thinking think they’re signing up for Obamacare.

    “It’s seriously bad,” McAfee said. “Somebody made a grave error, not in designing the program but in simply implementing the web aspect of it. I mean, for example, anybody can put up a web page and claim to be a broker for this system. There is no central place where I can go and say, ‘OK, here are all the legitimate brokers, the examiners for all of the states and pick and choose one.’”

    “Instead, any hacker can put a website up, make it look extremely competitive, and because of the nature of the system — and this is health care, after all — they can ask you the most intimate questions, and you’re freely going to answer them,” he went on. “What’s my Social Security number? My birth date? What are my health issues?”

    McAfee says there is no quick fix and that it could be a playground for computer hackers.

    “Here’s the problem: It’s not something software can solve,” McAfee said. “I mean, what idiot put this system out there and did not create a central depository? There should be one website, run by the government, you go to that website and then you can click on all of the agencies. This is insane. So, I will predict that the loss of income for the millions of Americans who are going to lose their identities — I mean, you can imagine some retired lady in Utah, who has $75,000 dollars in the bank, saving her whole life, having it wiped out in one day because she signed up for Obamacare. And believe me, this is going to happen millions of times. This is a hacker’s wet dream. I mean I cannot believe that they did this.”

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:38 PM, RonJeremy wrote:

    I have been waiting on this article for a couple of weeks now. The government controlled media is now trying to manipulate the public with these false polls. This is what the media has turned in to. Its just to bad that not very many people know this is happening to them. They actually believe these polls and think this law is a good thing. The media will be what destroys this country and its going to be a sad day because it looks like the American people aren't smart enough to see it happening.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Calipers wrote:

    I don't really know why I read the comment sections like these as they all degenerate into the same unwavering stances and diatribes. Pointless, really.

    I'm an engineer for a U.S manufacturer that makes luxury products. At the peak of the recession, my injection molders were suffering except for the couple that also molded medical products. I asked them how they were managing and they were quite smug about how they just jacked up their prices for medical. "They'll pay anything, ten, twenty-five, fifty bucks for a ten cent part." That situation wouldn't even be possible in any other manufacturing sector.

    Then my beloved father-in-law got cancer. Bad cancer. We got ten extra glorious months more of him because of Zytiga. Look it up. Developed from goodwill money that came from cancer research donations (who doesn't give to cancer research? Nobody I know), the $50k/month drug bill was reduced to $1000/month because of an Obamacare thing that kicked in.

    Thank you, taxpayers. Really, really appreciate it.

    RIP Luka.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 10:53 PM, sypoth wrote:

    Considering all the polls are done by liberal sources of course they would limit to liberal places, and the positive polls are obviously taken from a small select group of people, the negative from the same group that later learned about what was in it so they then trimmed the numbers to try and show it was positive, and once the people learned more about it it again turned negative. more than 4 out of 5 people don't like the ACA and no amount of cooked data or polishing can cover up the turn that it is.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 11:03 PM, repfox wrote:

    Actually I have no clue pro or Con. But I'm a Sprint retiree. Never used the benefits because My wife has a good plan. Problem is we moved and its just to far a commute.But she's doing it. I decided to check my medical package thru Sprint. Pretty big Eyeopener .To cover my wife and daughter the Cheapest plan With Dental and RX is $2300 per month. My wifes plan if she uses Cobra is 2100 per month. Something has gotta give here..I think people should start checking the cost of there Employee Health coverage. They might be surprised at the cost of Insurance if something happens unexpectedly and they have to pay there own Insurance. It sure shocked me..

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 11:15 PM, lightnin001 wrote:

    Six hard-leftie polls vs Rasmussen. This your idea of Fair and Balanced?

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 11:16 PM, lightnin001 wrote:

    Hey! There's no tax penalty if you aren't getting a refund! Cut back your withholding or estimated tax payments, don't get a refund, Bingo, no penalty! They ought to call it Obamateurcare!

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 11:23 PM, lightnin001 wrote:

    ivd: Obummer hasn't made a dent in healthcare reform, but he's made a hell of a dent in the Treasury with his spending and charging it all on the credit cards!

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 11:27 PM, mountain1 wrote:

    There is just not any way that the "positives" could be going up, when no one can sign up for it! It was announced today that the website is down "until the end of November". More importantly, long term, is the fact that virtually all of the 160 million Americans who already have insurance are seeing their rates go up an average of about 99%. There is no possible way to make that fly, or politically palatable, against that huge majority. Expect some major changes and routs in the 2014 election, regardless of which side of this issue.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 11:30 PM, LouBodoh wrote:

    Both parties are selling out the country for the ruling class masters of the "Establishment".

    Obama is a stooge and so was Bush and Clinton.

    They are used to advance the agenda of the rich and powerful those 1% who own and control America as their fiefdom.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 11:33 PM, delm31 wrote:

    State-ism is not liberty. It is slavery to tyranny in the form of government largesse and voter greed. We need restoration of our Constitutional Federal Republic and Constitutional Republicanism. No amount of government "goodies" or welfare is worth losing your liberty for. The best things in life aren't things. Those who wish to surrender their liberty for security deserve neither. If we are a bunch of greedy selfish voters who only care about what we can get from Washington, we have forfeited any right to be called a great nation.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 11:37 PM, thecarnivore123 wrote:

    Six of the polling organizations mentioned are hard left. So are all of the "news" organizations involved here - Yahoo, the Huffington Post, and the Motley Fool.

    Can't you liberals see that the game is over? No amount of spin can save this ill-conceived law from the death spiral. You should stop trying to convince the ignorant masses from believing in it, and start joining the vast majority in overturning it and getting this country pointed in the right direction again.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 11:42 PM, ObamaH8sWhitey wrote:

    Funny to see more liberal postings the longer this is up. Typical that more emails were sent out to "blast" the comments from good American who deem Obamacare to be a failure. Ganging up on any post exposing Obama is a Liberal Attack 101 in the seminars i used to have to take funded by MoveOn.org.

    They hate America that much.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 11:50 PM, American63 wrote:

    Why hasn't this President been impeached????? This health care that has been put in place is taken away from OUR constitutional rights... I feel I should have freedom of choice it is my right as an AMERICAN.

  • Report this Comment On October 25, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Morpheus65lv wrote:

    Federal income taxes do not get passed on to consumers because federal taxes are calculated based on net profits and not gross profits. Federal income taxes have no effect on jobs because employee pay is entirely tax deductible.

    If I make sporks and my gross profit is 100.00 per spork and my net profits are 10.00 I only pay 3.50 in taxes per spork. The most I could save consumers is 3.50 per spork if the tax rate were set to 0%. If taxes went up 2% I'd end up paying 3.70 in taxes. Do you really think I am going to raise prices by 20 cents?

    The other big fallacy promoted by the GOP is that not covering the uninsured costs nothing to anyone. The fact is the uninsured were costing more per year than the ACA. It is cheaper to pay a fraction of the insurance costs of the previously uninsured than to pay 100% of their ER costs. Either the hospitals and insurance companies raise rates to cover the uninsured or the government mandates coverage to get more people paying for their health coverage. There is no free lunch when it comes to healthcare. One way or another, nearly everyone is going to end up paying.

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 12:36 AM, True411 wrote:

    Once again, the Fool takes a misleading liberal source at face value. Let's look at the Gallup poll. In Dec 2012 ObamaCare's approval rate was 48% with disapproval at 45%. In August 2013, approval sank to 41%, disapproval grew to 49%. In the poll taken on October 18-20, approval rebounded to 45%, disapproval grew to 50%.

    Over the last 10 months, disapproval has steadily grown from 45 to 50%. Approval has dropped from 48 to 45% in the same period. The blip from August to October was just a blip.

    Now here's the thing. Anyone could find errors in Huffington's article with less than 5 minutes of effort. Why didn't the Fool analysts find it?

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 12:49 AM, Gothnate wrote:

    So, I checked out a subsidy calculator from KFF.org, and here's what it said after I entered in my data. After checking with the state, I'm not eligible for Medicaid.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    The information below is about unsubsidized exchange coverage. Note that depending on your state's eligibility requirements, you may still be eligible for coverage through Medicaid.

    Household income in 2014: 73% of poverty level

    Unsubsidized annual health insurance premium in 2014: $3,322

    In most states, insurers can charge a tobacco surcharge of up to 50% of your total premium before the tax credit. The tax credit cannot be applied to the tobacco surcharge.

    Maximum % of income you have to pay for the non-tobacco premium, if eligible for a subsidy: None (before accounting for a tobacco surcharge, if applicable)

    Amount you pay for the premium:

    $3,322 per year

    (which equals 39.55% of your household income and covers 100% of the overall premium)

    You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to: $0 (which covers 0% of the overall premium)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I would have to pay right at 40% of my income just to have healthcare and would leave me with about $5,000 left over to pay for living. How is this affordable again?

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 1:20 AM, papabillyjr wrote:

    How soon we forget,

    2006 part D

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 1:24 AM, Baileysuchacek wrote:

    Although I know this might be plagiarism (?), I found it in one of Steve Matinis' books, that really does fit : "For a century and a half, our government has sucked taxpayers dry, forcing them all to pay for Social Security and Medicare several times over while congress has refused to lock up the money and p_ssed it all away on other things, including the Congressional gold-plated pension plan. Now they want to give everybody health care so they can play the same tune over, only louder this time..." Just the idea of our current congress (WHO CAN'T EVEN BALANCE A CHECK BOOK) and our current president (what a joke...) getting involved with our healthcare? Are they on the same healthplan? Simple answer to both questions: don't think so. All you young, healthy ones, that they're counting on MILKING: just and them a $95 check and tell them to F.O. ...

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 1:43 AM, reddwarfone wrote:

    If you think the website is the government's worst nightmare,just wait until Obamacare has been around a while. Then you will really see what worst nightmare really means!

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 2:12 AM, margenieman wrote:

    Anyone that believes Huffington Post is nonpartisan should believe Obamination Care is a good thing. Please do not foist your uneducated opinion on those of us who have taken the time to read and attempt to make sense of this disaster. This LAW is not for the benefit of the American citizens. Unfortunately it is not a joke, although it should be.

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 2:25 AM, HealthyFool wrote:

    It's heartening to see that most of the comments cut right through the bologna contained in the above article. Lies upon lies to feed the low information crowd, whose numbers sadly appear to grow with each passing day. Keep shouting brothers and sisters and let free markets rebuild the economic strength of this nation.

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 3:02 AM, helskel2013 wrote:

    Not much to say but I challenge everybody (especially the media puppets) to find and read a copy of the Constitution of the United States of America. I have WORKED for everything that I have. The only thing that I was ever given was a chance. The whole Obamascare program violates everything that the Constitution and I believe. How can people even support this JOKER. The puppet only moves if you move the right strings and unfortunately I personally cannot even afford a 3 letter word on the teleprompter.

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 4:27 AM, mso88 wrote:

    The polls in no way reflect the thinking of the majority of Americans. Obabacare remains a catastrophe. That said, in a society where Takers outnumber Producers, it IS true that America's naïve electorate truly has the government it deserves.

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 5:41 AM, ron2cu wrote:

    Can someone please explain the point of this article to me? You have to register in my state to view the actual availability and price of the plans. That DOES NOT MEAN you have signed up and it certainly doesn't mean you are in favor of the ACA. I have been on the site 6 times looking at the plans and what they let you look at before registration and have not bothered to register because I am not comfortable at this time doing that.

    You can poll 100 people in the low income housing in my area and get a 40 percent or more favorability poll figure.

    I think enrollment is way below estimated figures and it has nothing to do with the bad government site. People don't want it. They don't want to pay for it or the high deductibles with what little money they have.

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 5:45 AM, ron2cu wrote:

    papabillyjr, Part "D" has nothing to do with this.

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 6:26 AM, LibsSuck wrote:

    Do you mean this is another Obama failure, where he's blaming the Republicans? Well, let me put on my shock face!

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 6:41 AM, zukerman wrote:

    We prove daily how spoiled rotten we are to the countries that have managed care and do just fine. Have any of you sniveling wienies realized that these articles are a boon to the media companies? All they have to do is place a single word (Obamacare), and boom, out come the ignorant cry babies to rant against something that was intended to help you. If your claiming that your insurance has doubled, you probably should thank your republican leaders for not trying to help with the transition to more affordable. Instead, on political terms, they drag their feet in an attempt to slow down and bad mouth the very same law they voted for. To those that claim that they will NOT pay, oh yes you will, it's called the IRS. Where do you think the money from the fines is destined. The ones that are really being hurt are the elderly in republican states where they refused to expand Medicare to keep them from falling through the cracks. You should be really proud of yourselves for punishing your parents and grand parents. Guess what happens next election once America realizes why this doesn't work? I don't want a low paying job, I want to get payed a high salary for doing as little as I can because I went to college and got a degree that I can't use. My neighborhood is full of twenty somethings that aren't working and mom and dad are supporting them still, they will be happy that once this takes hold they wont retire penniless after a disease hits their family. Soon you'll be seeing polls that show how republican states are dramatically poorer with higher bankruptcy rates because they refuse to help fix the problem. My mother in law is 87 years old and has been a die hard republican her whole life, she won't be voting that way if she lives until next election. What really astounds me is the fact that most of the respondents here fail to realize their crying about paying for something they always had to before, you've always been paying for those that show up with no insurance at the ER in your premiums. So why is it more expensive if we're paying for the same thing? As I said above, you can't fight it, you will pay. I'm white and 58 years old and belong to the true America where we care to be responsible and pay for what we get. All the companies that go in front of a microphone to claim they are dropping insurance will be punished for their bad behavior once the competition does the right thing to support this effort. You sadden and disgust me and I don't consider you true Americans.

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Clevie wrote:

    Sentiment toward OC improving? Among whom? The Terrorists? Seriously, if you take Huffington Posts' polls as the gospel truth, you need to take a crash course in Reality 101.

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 6:57 AM, CaptAmericaa1 wrote:

    While I support the goal of national health insurance for everyone, I snort in derision at obama's attempt at implementing it. Its grossly underfunded, over-reaches in trying to be everything to everybody, and obama is trying to use it as a political tool instead of focusing on the goal of getting people insured.

    The website issues are a symptom of expected administration incompetence; electing a president that has never accomplished anything of significance in the world outside of academia has consequences.

    And the repubs are just making it worse. They didn't contribute to the design of the plan and they are now wasting huge amounts of political capital on a losing issue when they should be focusing on defeating immigration "reform", a much greater threat to the country than obamacare,

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 7:05 AM, transmitterguy wrote:

    I am surprised that this has happened. With all the fighting on this health care plan, and how common web site building is, I figured this would be the last problem that would come up. Again I herts the people that need it most.

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Heinreicht wrote:

    After obamacare is in effect next year you'll only be able to buy insurance once a year instead of anytime like we do now.

    I know this since Blue cross blue shield sent me a letter wanting me to sign up for their insurance in nc. I'm not paying $1000 a month, that will be 2 weeks pay a month if I did that.

    I know that because I checked on theiir spanking new website for a quote.

    I'll wait for the 'affordable' insurance we were promised.

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 7:41 AM, zukerman wrote:

    For people like Gothnate, let someone intelligent file for you. You claim you don't qualify for a subsidy and would be paying 40% of your income? You stupid idiot, you don't have to buy the insurance if it's more than 8% of your income. I wonder if the majority of respondents here are as ignorant as he is?

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 7:52 AM, zukerman wrote:

    Those that claim that the ACA is a tax are right

    A tax for:

    1) The intolerant

    2) The ignorant

    3) The racist

    4) The greedy

    5) The immature

    6) The Uneducated

    7) The elitist

    8) The rich

    9) Those that wish for a republican as president again.

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 7:55 AM, JackTroy wrote:

    Obamacare Rollout Disaster? These will be viewed as the good old days as Obamacare gets going:

    1, As of today 1.5 million Americans have had their insurance cancelled (myself included,) GAO estimates that the number could balloon to 18 to 20 million. (For some reason this does't not bother "progressives" that their prez is a bigger liar than Nixon when he said everyone could keep their insurance. Yes is said NIXON!)

    2. The promise by Barack Hussein Chavez Nixon that we can keep our doctor is also so much pot smoke. It turns out that few to none of the exchange programs allow for out of network doctors. If this were a perfect world the fallout from this would only affect Obamacare supporters but we will all have to pay with substandard service and be treated by doctors we don't know or trust. However this great news for doctors who graduated in the bottom third.

    3. The good news is that the administration is not lying about the enrollment numbers--due to incredible transparency they are sitting on them, The bad news is that the MSM does not press them as to why "they don't knew them." This is the way we start off and it will continue in this way. The Obama health nightmare will continue and you can read about it in the foreign press. And you thought the Soviet-era Pravda "news" was a joke?

    4. We know that enrollment is incredibly low and that Bozocare needs 7 million young, fresh and healthy victims to support the Ponzi scheme. As of today the majority of those enrolling are sick with pre-existing conditions or poor who are signing up for Medicaid. There is no money coming in and it looks like it ain't gonna happen.

    There are many more legal problems for this law and that storm is going to hit on January 1. You ain't seen nothing yet.

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 8:32 AM, iosax wrote:

    if it wasn't for the furious, billion dollar propaganda unleashed by the billionaire party (aka tea party), we would have realized a long time ago that:

    1. we're paying for medical care double ($9,000 per person per year) what the next country pays (Norway at $4,500)

    2. despite the outrageous cost, our medical care is rated 22nd in the world, just a head of Cuba (22) while Norway is the best

    3. yet we don't even cover everybody

    4. and 25% of the cost is eaten by a bloated, useless bureaucracy called "medical insurance"

    all arguments against "alas! socialized medicine" are hogwash, we could argue against "socialized police force" or education like: i live in a good neighborhood, i don't need police protection, or i have plenty of books, my kids don't need school, etc. etc

    sooner or later everybody will need medical care and doesn't make sense to throw money away on emergency room care or million dollar bonuses for private insurance managers

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 8:33 AM, iosax wrote:

    if it wasn't for the furious, billion dollar propaganda unleashed by the billionaire party (aka tea party), we would have realized a long time ago that:

    1. we're paying for medical care double ($9,000 per person per year) what the next country pays (Norway at $4,500)

    2. despite the outrageous cost, our medical care is rated 22nd in the world, just a head of Cuba (22) while Norway is the best

    3. yet we don't even cover everybody

    4. and 25% of the cost is eaten by a bloated, useless bureaucracy called "medical insurance"

    all arguments against "alas! socialized medicine" are hogwash, we could argue against "socialized police force" or education like: i live in a good neighborhood, i don't need police protection, or i have plenty of books, my kids don't need school, etc. etc

    sooner or later everybody will need medical care and doesn't make sense to throw money away on emergency room care or million dollar bonuses for private insurance managers

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 8:40 AM, lcr1946 wrote:

    Are you daft? Where the heck do you get your information from? You're working with half-assed information and not smart enough or are too lazy to check it out, or even give it a moments thought. All this pricing crap everybody's spewing is mostly BS. There aren't enough people getting signed up yet to have learned much about prices.

    The specific quotes such as premiums went from $600 per year to $1200per year are not comparing to an exchange price, they are comparing their last years premium to what that their insurance company wants then to pay next year. When followed up, It turns out the exchange premium and deductibles are much better than what their company is offering them this year.

    I don't know if these folks seriously don't understand the difference between what's offered on the exchanges and what's offered on the open market. I am curious , do any of you folks have reliable and accurate information to back up your unsupported accusations or are you just parroting the BS you heard from some idiot politician or news(?) bureau?

    Look at what you have written. Not a word of it is any thing related to proven points or matters of proof of claims. It's nothing more than snot-dragging on teachers desk because she called you out for saying stuff that's comparing apple and oranges.

    If Obamacare is truly expected to be the end of western civilization and will bankrupt the country, doesn't it seem likely that every business and smart individual would have already ganged up to pound it into oblivion? Do you really think the insurance companies are going to accept being 0run out of business?

    Thank God, none of you are responsible for much more than yourselves. Your ability to reason and think something through is phenomenal, phenomenally bad.

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 10:34 AM, stevor86 wrote:

    what are the odds that it has something to do with that Valerie Jarretts' daughter (o'bama's "brain") is part of the company doing the FAILED federal part?

  • Report this Comment On October 26, 2013, at 12:11 PM, mac2j wrote:

    Not one of these differences is outside of the margin of error of the poll in question. NOT ONE OF THEM. Come on people - do better.

  • Report this Comment On October 27, 2013, at 1:17 AM, andyhenderson43 wrote:

    Obamacare is actually becoming MORE (not less) popular (I read it on the internet so it must be true). Because the American people reward government incompetency, lies and propaganda with increased support for government programs, in spite of the hardship caused by said programs.

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