Does Wal-Mart Really Underpay Its Employees?

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Wal-Mart Stores (NYSE: WMT  ) has received a lot of negative press for the way it treats its employees for years. And the U.S. government just charged Wal-Mart with the violation of the rights of workers. This primarily stems from accusations that Wal-Mart intimidated employees who threatened to strike against the company.

OUR Walmart has been protesting Wal-Mart since 2012, demanding higher pay. Wal-Mart has fired at least 19 people who took part in protests, despite these workers being protected under the National Labor Relations Act. As in most cases, there will be three sides to this story, OUR Walmart's side, Wal-Mart's side, and the truth, which is somewhere in the middle.

While it's impossible to know all the cold-hard facts related to this dispute, it is possible to know if Wal-Mart underpays its employees compared to its peers. This is possible thanks to, where employees anonymously leave information about salaries, their experiences, and more.

Moral or immoral?
According to Glassdoor, the average Wal-Mart sales associate makes $8.89 per hour, and the average cashier earns $8.64 per hour.

Wal-Mart is the largest retailer in the world, and it consistently delivers large profits. For example, its 2012 profit totaled $15.7 billion. That's a big number. However, it was a 4.6% decline from 2011. Due to waning demand, Wal-Mart had to cut prices in order to drive more traffic to its stores. This was an effective maneuver, which led to a 6% increase in revenue to $447 billion. We don't yet know the results of 2013.

What we do know is that any company that has been forced to slash its prices isn't going to rush to increase employee pay. That's Business 101. If you have a dislike for Wal-Mart for moral reasons, that's understandable. If you're looking at Wal-Mart as a potential investment, then despite recent negative news, you might want to keep in mind that Wal-Mart is the epitome of capitalism. 

Pay comparisons
Take another quick glance at the employee pay numbers above for Wal-Mart. Now consider the average pay for some Target (NYSE: TGT  ) employees. According to Glassdoor, the average pay for someone on the sales floor is $8.36 per hour. And the average pay for a cashier is $8.14 per hour. This is lower than Wal-Mart. The big difference is culture. 

Target employees appear to be happier than Wal-Mart employees. Wal-Mart employees have rated their employer a 2.9 of 5, and only 47% of employees would recommend the company to a friend. Furthermore, only 49% of employees approve of CEO Michael Duke. This should be expected since he earned $19.3 million in 2012.

Target employees have rated their employer a 3.3 of 5, and 62% of employees would recommend the company to a friend. A solid 72% of employees approve of CEO Gregg W. Steinhafel.

Then there's Costco Wholesale (NASDAQ: COST  ) . The average pay for a cashier at Costco is $15.06 per hour, the average sales assistant earns $11.59 per hour, the average food-court worker makes $11.75 per hour, and the average stocker brings in $12.82 per hour. These are much higher numbers than both Wal-Mart and Target. 

Costco employees have rated their employer a 3.8 of 5, and an impressive 83% of employees would recommend the company to a friend. Furthermore, 93% of employees approve of CEO Craig Jelinek. Needless to say, the company culture at Costco is excellent. The turnover rate for employees working at Costco more than one year is less than 6%, and for executives, it's less than 1%. As if that's not impressive enough, 70% of warehouse managers are hired internally.

The bottom line
Costco treats its employees better than its peers. Therefore, if you're looking for a moral investment -- without sacrificing growth potential -- you might want to consider Costco. As far as Target goes, it has other concerns to deal with at the moment, and it might be a while before the stock can find some solid footing.

When it comes to Wal-Mart, one former employee on Glassdoor put it best, stating that "It's a good entry-level job that teaches fundamental skills." There is no reason for Wal-Mart to increase pay for its employees unless those employees possess a specific skill. Recent headlines might lead to negative public sentiment for Wal-Mart, but that already exists. Those who dislike Wal-Mart will continue to dislike Wal-Mart. Others will continue to shop there.

In other words, recent headlines regarding the intimidation of workers threatening to strike, and low pay, should have no significant impact on the underlying business or stock price. Wal-Mart should remain a quality long-term value investment. 

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  • Report this Comment On January 17, 2014, at 9:11 PM, mike5196 wrote:

    Costco also charges shoppers an annual fee, is open fewer hours and has fewer employees.

  • Report this Comment On January 17, 2014, at 9:24 PM, kcoach wrote:

    The reality is that retail just doesn't pay. Sure Costco does a little better job in the treatment of its employees. But here's the deal, if this is a career move, you are sorely lacking in sufficient skills for higher paying jobs away from retail. Of course, the smaller the company the worse the benefits. McDonald's is everywhere, but many of their stores are franchises with meager returns on investment, so really can't be considered "corporate entities" per se.

    All these places are really entry level, part-time, or casual oriented employment. If you are an "associate" at any of these places for more than 5 years "full time" you've got a problem getting employed anywhere else. The real jobs for Target, Costco, McDonald's, Macy's, Red Lobster is at the corporate level. In retail you rate your job from the top down. There is NO climbing from cashier, bagger, or "assistant manager".

  • Report this Comment On January 17, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Hjin wrote:

    It's silly to consider Costco a peer to Walmart and Target. Costco's revenue per employee is far higher than either Walmart or Target. Costco's overall selection of products is also far smaller than either Walmart or Target. Moreover, Costco's logistics and distribution network is also far less complex because it simply doesn't have the same number of locations or geographic penetration.

  • Report this Comment On January 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, mrsmagoo4891 wrote:

    Walmart pays a fair salary,but most employees are not given enough hours each week to live off of. The managers cut the hours so they can show a savings to boost their big bonus. Walmart needs to base mananger bonus's on areas like employee turn over, product waste, years of service. there are other ways to save money without cutting employees hours so bad they can't make enough to live off of, but they take the easy way out. There is a lot of money wasted on training new employees. The employees are the backbone of walmart not the managers. They have way too many in management. For every 10 employees they have about five managers.not counting a store manager and two co-mangers. Cut some of those and save that money.

  • Report this Comment On January 17, 2014, at 11:29 PM, gayle wrote:

    Walmart pays a fair salary comparable to several other retail companies for an entry-level position. These jobs are not meant to be a career. They are for retirees, high school students, and people who want to work part-time. They do have too many in management and if they had less managers maybe could pay a little more to the workers.

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 2:11 AM, johncaughman wrote:

    Gayle your right to a point.. UPS starts college kids off at $9.50 an hour with full benefits and a part time retirement!! That's what a Union does for the American people!! Walmart is a joke because they are the largest retailer in the world and they can afford to pay there people!! UPS upper management still live in the same neighbor hoods as Walmart owners instead of being billionaires they are millionaires.. The Save Mart owner is a billionaire and Walmart is giving him an excuse to say he can't afford to pay his union workers because of the Walmart competition.. That's all BS. Save mart pays there people an average of $17 dollars an hour and they cut benefits because of Walmart!! Organize go union and you will wreak the benefits.. Tuffn up Walmart people and organize!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 6:21 AM, beyondo1 wrote:

    Shouldn't the comparison be based on total pay package, including all benefits. Hourly rate is only one component of compensation.

    If I'm not mistaken the big complaint about Walmart was them wanting to employ part-time workers instead of full-time, to avoid paying for insurance, holidays, vacation, etc.

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 7:45 AM, PJatl wrote:

    Here the harsh reality about walmart.... IM an ex-walmart employee. Yes that average pay sounds about right but Yes Walmart uses mainly Part-timers to keep from pay those extra benefits.

    Managers have even been known STEAL lunch time & breaks from employees times for the BONUSES they get.

    Walmart lies to employees & have them believe that the UNION is BAD. When the UNion is there to actually protect them.

    And it doesn't matter whether the jobs at walmart were meant to be a career move or not the reality is there are people with families working there and they should be able to support their families on a livable wage.

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 7:55 AM, scipiojr wrote:

    I do agree with a few of the comments on here that Walmart and some of the similar stores are heavy on management. I've never worked in one of these places, but I'd guess if you paid the employees more and hired good managers with people skills(a business degree is overrated), you wouldn't need as many managers. I've noticed poor morale in a lot of these places and that has to affect sales, etc.

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 10:02 AM, moose67 wrote:

    I read all the time people mentioning the low wages of walmart and other retailers even by people who use to work there, but noone has yet mentioned the fact that walmart has put caps on the hourly wages. employees who have worked at the company more than 10 years in their positions have capped out and will not get any more raises, it doesn't matter if the cost of living goes up, they're capped. Does this happen in other retail stores? Curious

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 10:13 AM, JamesBHuntington wrote:

    Six reasons why the minimum wage should NOT be increased! See .

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Essential wrote:

    UPS workers get paid more and have benefits but the work is very physically demanding, during graveyard shifts, and often outside in cold/hot extremes. I am not sure you can compare the work required by UPS and Walmart, Unions might be part of the equation why Walmart employee's are paid lower wages but skill is a larger part. I do not agree that every job should pay a living wage. Every job should pay the wage that reflects the skill set to do the job.

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 11:11 AM, chazman002 wrote:

    Just like mrsmagoo4891 said. Some of its employees make a comfortable salary, but those people have been there a long time. Also she is right on the money about hours being cut. Every year, just after Christmas, employees get their hours cut from about 40 hours a week to just over 20 hours. They cut hours to help put a bigger bonuses in their pockets.

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 11:30 AM, ghelmz21 wrote:

    I wish our government could have been built and as sucessfull as Walmart is run!

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Conche63 wrote:

    As a former (WALMART) associate, i agree with mister magoo above: they have way to many so called managers, most are still wet behind the ears, and are so unavailable when u need them most, and so cheap they cant keep H.R associates in the offices to help you when u need them its just the biggest circus ring i have ever been apart of glad i am no longer a part of the circus

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 12:24 PM, spaceboy54 wrote:

    I used to work at a Walmart in the Santa Clarita area of Los Angeles County, and I can tell you first hand that the lousy wages were nothing compared to the way management "treated" it's associates! Humiliating, embarrassing and just general talking down to associates in front of other associates, as well as customers, no less-seemed to be the norm there! And, Heaven help you if you dared to stand up for yourself or you would be "coached" (?!), written up, or...well-you know. I've been in retail, inside sales and customer service for 25 plus years, and NEVER in my life have I witnessed a place where morale was so in the toilet than at THIS place because of what I mentioned above!

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 12:48 PM, kama wrote:

    only gov.peple are overpaid !!

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 1:39 PM, ananicole98 wrote:

    Their is great documentary about wal mart and the treatment of its employees. One thing that I found interesting was that their is a fund that employees can contribute to other workers for when the have a tornado/fire/other natural disasters. They raised something like one million dollars last year and the wal mart corporation only donated about $ 5000! I think that wal mart needs to helps it workers since so many of them must rely on federal aid due to the low income and no over time pay. Walmart employees though should only make that job temporary. I understand it is hard for some people especially for families with kids. Walmart and the CEO lee Scott need to revise their entire business.

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 4:49 PM, spinnerspencer21 wrote:

    im married to a wal mart associate, sure the pay isnt exactly what a person would want, but i have yet heard one person mention the quarterly bonuses they receive. also the stock they are able to buy at low prices. i for one dont like their way they treat their employees; they are supposed to be a family orientated business, but for 8 years i have yet to have a thanksgiving dinner, or Christmas dinner with my wife, because they "need" her to do what others supposedly cant. their managers who are single can have them days off while someone with 4 children has to work. they schedule every employee with their interests first, everyone who isnt in management gets the shaft and management decide if they want to allow someone lower on the pole to get a day off on a holiday, but, as i mentioned they decide.

    sure everyone has the choice to work for whom they chose, MY thought process is simple though, if the American worker chooses to work know who your working for and also how much you stand to gain by making a career out of any company you do inevitably decide to work for.

    the only real way to get fair wages is actually get NAFTA repealed. then maybe manufacturing jobs will come back to the USA.

    union or not, any company is only as good as the company employees, and this will show on payday as well as day to day contact.

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 5:27 PM, jenu1poo wrote:

    The pay may be one problem, but they only work you when they need you. When it slows down they will cut your hours if your not one of their full time employees and they don't hire many full time employees, that would cut into their fat pockets It is not consistent and that makes it hard when the bills are consistent.

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Peebsnjay wrote:

    I know I hear a lot complain about Walmart, but I worked there for awhile when looking for a career job based on my college degree. I was paid over the minimum wage and could have made more if I chose to either be a cashier or work the graveyard shift. I routinely received full-time hours. The only issue I had with Walmart was the sick day policy. You needed a note from the doctor for ANY sick day, which was ridiculous. So you'd need to go into working puking all over their floors and have them send you home or else pay to go see a doctor to say you were sick.

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 6:51 PM, genome860 wrote:

    First that pay is dirt! hours are kept down to avoid benifits. The bonuses are based on profits, save hours, the products mostly foriegn, wake up! Decent pay is around 15/hr. WAKE UP !!!!!!!

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 7:13 PM, meah wrote:

    First of all, their quarterly bonuses are based on multiple factors, sales, profit, shrinkage, accidents and customer experience. Where I worked they ranged from $0 to $300, usually about $150. The store manager however would get a $100,000 bonus at the end of the year. Had it been a large store it would've been as high as $250,000. The more labor hours cut, the bigger the bonus for management. We were always shorthanded and the cheap bastards wouldn't hire enough people. All the people they did hire were part time, and to them part time is less than 33 hours per week. So they will keep them at 32 if you work overnights. Days could be as little as 18 hours, and your days and hours were all over the place, sometimes leaving at 11pm and having to be back at 8am, or working six 4 hour shifts a week. I think with a little effort they could be more consistent with scheduling. When I was sick, they told me they don't accept doctors notes. We had people showing up and running to the bathroom to puke, and they didn't want to leave because it wouldn't be excused and management wouldn't offer to let them leave. They just don't care. I don't think they should be paying people $15 an hour to cashier, but even their department manager position doesn't pay much, I was going to apply for a department manager position and it was only $1 an hour higher than an overnight stocker, and it's a lot of responsibility. I don't think they should have to pay cashiers $15 an hour or anything, but they could pay a little more, and treat their employees better. Unhappy employees don't help sales, and when they're too cheap to give hours, you have product that doesn't get stocked and obviously can't be bought because it's on a pallet in the backroom.

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 7:16 PM, thomas302 wrote:

    I'm surprised that no-one mentioned that walmart kills small towns to. As a former employee I would never recommend this horrible company. The managers are almost laughable. Yes they treat you like dirt, yes morale sucks, yes they will even fire you at the mention of unionizing. I'd rather work as a dish washer than go back to that abusive regime.

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 7:29 PM, freedy wrote:


  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 8:17 PM, IainElliott wrote:

    Compared with, not compared to. Compared to involves a claim to equality. Compared with is what is meant, a simple comparison which can result in A being equal to, less than, or greater than, B.

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Animal101 wrote:

    Its not that the employees need to standup or the management or even the owner...... It is you. You will spend hours typing bad about Wal Mart then go to the store and spend all your money. As a consumer you want it now and as low of a price as you can get it not really wanting the quality as much as the low price. I do not shop at Wal Mart I support my locally grown food and try to get items made in the USA as much as I can. If everyone with a bad word for Wal Mart stops going there it will fall under its own weight. But consumers will break down their doors to buy that China made for a low low price.

  • Report this Comment On January 18, 2014, at 10:56 PM, cmdc12 wrote:

    I have never worked at WalMart but I have worked retail and I was also a waitress...while I was in high school. I decided I did not want a career in retail or waitressing and went to college. I became a dietician. I understand folks not wanting to make 8 or 9 dollars an hour but work hard study and another job may be available to you. in the meantime be thankful for Walmart

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 12:48 AM, johnbaum wrote:

    Every chance they get. If Wal-Mart can sucker an employee into working for free, they'll do it. They only care about themselves and MONEY! I worked there I know. They will also ABUSE every employee whom are elderly or disabled. Many witnesses to that activity. They should be fined by the Americans With Disabilities Act. But look at who's in the White House now. They learn from crooks like him and others like him. Hell would be a great place for Wal-Mart!

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 1:00 AM, Susa76nne wrote:

    Ok, so I work at Sam's Club, and not an actual Wal-Mart store; however, I receive a rather nice wage, 401K with dollar for dollar matching up to 6%, Stock options, free membership, 10% off of fresh produce, paid vacation, paid personal days, paid holidays, flexible scheduling, bereavement pay, full pay for jury duty...and much more. I have been with the company for over 7 years, and they would have me work more than I do, if I could, (go to school full time).....I also know, that if I work while I am supposed to be on break, or am off the clock, then I face disciplinary actions! I am expected to do a time adjustment for any work performed for of the clock work!

    I really do not understand all of the criticism of Wal-Mart Corporation...maybe the store I work at is an exception.

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 1:01 AM, Susa76nne wrote:

    ***off the clock work.

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 1:03 AM, 1thatisrght4 wrote:


    I currently work for Walmart. Just finished a 21 hr. week at 7.90 an hr., no one gets more than 30 on a good week except for Thanksgiving and before Christmas. No full time openings available and bonus? At the store I'm at it hasn't had one in over two years due to accidents(by customers) and shrinkage(theft).

    Being a cashier is not easy, I would like to see some of you doing it. You have to bag items the way customers want, deal with cheap bags that rip very easily, go along with bogus ad (verbal)matches to make customers happy, be cheerful, try to reach an associate for a price check or waiting on change as the line grows, have a smile when the corporate office will not turn on AC when it is 85 outside, which means it is close to 90 inside. Come to work sick(or deal with sick customers) for fear of getting a write up.

    I at least help the elderly load their bags into their scooters/carts and I double bag for them, oh and I talk while waiting on all my customers!

    This is a temporary job for me until,I find one with more pay and close to where I live. Not having a college degree should not stop anyone from finding better quality employment, it should be based on experience!

    You have to have money to be able to purchase company stock or insurance. Who can on $165.90 before taxes?

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 1:07 AM, 1thatisrght4 wrote:


    The benefits you stated are available after you have been their a full year, two years if part time.

    Sam's pays more than Walmart. I got the call from Walmart first or I would be at Sam's.

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 1:09 AM, doggone55 wrote:

    Where do you get the ratings for Target employees ranking high on being happy?

    Have been there just under 20 years and the store has gone under in their appreciation of hard workers. The morale is real bad. Supposedly being a full time employee, I'm lucky if I get 20 hours a week.

    Maybe one should check into what is really up at Target as an hourly employee

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 1:37 AM, Ducktape wrote:

    Has target and Costco started this yet?

    Just wondering

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 5:16 AM, deweylasv wrote:

    Who cares what Wal-Mart pays! If you don't like it don't work there! They come into towns and put all other stores out of business and all of you same people go there and shop there! How do you think they got so rich? How do you think they can sell for so cheap? They know you'll all come and buy from them, and then you complain they don't pay enough! If you want more pay, expect to pay more, just like in the old days. Sears, Gimbles, Woolworths, and every other neighborhood store treated their employees much better and paid much better but sold goods a little bit more expensive, but not that much more expensive. I never shop at Wal-Mart, NEVER! Only Sears, JC Penny, Kohls, Vons, Smiths, Fresh &Easy, Walgreens, and every other mom &pop store in my neighbirhood. Don't you all remember the inflation years in the 1970's? When the unions got everyone more money and benefits and every product, food and service skyrocketed? The pay is relative to prices, that's life! If you want to get one up on the game, get an education and a REAL job! Retail is and should always be a temp job or for retired folks. Pay will always be relative to the skills involved. Low skill low pay! You'll never get up if you work the easy jobs. Gosh idiots!

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 8:38 AM, mdilley1 wrote:

    I work at a walmart distribution center as a hourly associate . I only have a high school education so if someone can tell me where else I can work making over 40grand a year , I'm all ears!!

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 9:40 AM, stevew49 wrote:

    A friend worked for Walmart and got bullied into quitting because of miss use of pricing of other stores and told to PAY THE DIFFERANCE OR GO TO JAIL all this is bulling for following a policy

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 9:43 AM, EDignan wrote:

    I think the larger question must be addressed: if you were designing an economy from scratch, would you not link the minimum level for public assistance to the minimum wage, adjusted for local cost of living; or would you think it appropriate to create a class of employment that will be subsidized by tax dollars?

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 11:58 AM, FireBreather wrote:

    Not to put a new spin on this....but Cashiering/Retail is usually relegated to Women....hence the lower pay? Costco pays cashiers $15/hour ? That explains why there are more men as cashiers in Costco.

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Dawns1978 wrote:

    The ONLY reason I go to Wal Mart is its the cheapest place to buy food overall. Why spend more money for the same thing when we consume it anyway? When a grocery store in my area bring their prices down, I will spend my money there. Believe me, I check around. To me, Wal Mart is like walking into a restroom of a run down filthy gas station.

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 1:18 PM, drcrypto wrote:

    They interview people that apply for a job and offer a job at a certain $$ rate to the ones they determine will be a fit for their company. If they do not offer enough then you should not take the job.

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 1:20 PM, drcrypto wrote:

    Bought an Ipad Gen 4 last Xmas cheaper than anywhere else. You can't pay the highest wages and sell at the lowest prices. That does not compute.

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 4:23 PM, vet212 wrote:

    WalMart is a large successful American company ergo they are vile evil ogres that's what the US media would have you believe as they hate ANY American success

  • Report this Comment On January 19, 2014, at 6:03 PM, JaneJohnDoe wrote:

    It is not what they pay per hour that is the problem. My sister and her husband both worked there and both could switch off in the same departments. They both worked 34 hours (just below enough for full time) so my sister begged them to let her work full time and get benefits because they refused to hire either her or her husband full time, saying they couldn't afford both people. My brother in law agreed to quit if they would give my sister the full time job with benefits but they refused.

    My sister also went to college while working there and worked this out in advance before being hired, yet they scheduled many times during her classes and told her if she didn't show up for work she would be fired: she had to take demerit points on a few occasions just to get to her classes.

    At some point they gave her enough hours to get benefits but she had to wait almost a year to get them, and they took a big chunk of her paycheck, and she could not afford to insure her husband or her kids because she would lose too much money.

    You are right this should be a stepping stone position, but that is what my sister was trying to do: go to college while working to get a better life and Walmart fought her at every single turn.

    Her husband finally quit so they could go on welfare and get enough food stamps to feed their family. My sister now has a better paying job in a hospital with full benefits but she did this IN SPITE of Walmart, not due to their help...and she worked there during the phase where people were protesting and the managers at her store for a fact told all the employees that if they were involved in the protests, they would not have a job to come back to the next day.

  • Report this Comment On January 20, 2014, at 7:06 PM, DazedNotConfused wrote:

    Walmart is the scapegoat for all the frustrations about big box corporations while the public blindly gives Target a free pass for having the same terrible business habits that Walmart does.

    Walmart & Target are evil twins & the only difference between the two companies is that Target keeps their stores a little cleaner so the public will be fooled into thinking they are superior to the maligned Walmart.

    I have a friend whose son works for Target & the stories he tells about his job & the management are the same stories that we hear about the workers in Walmart.

    Neither company has any regard for their employees.

  • Report this Comment On October 16, 2014, at 4:59 PM, justcallmejoe wrote:

    Why do you shop at WalMart? WalMart is one of the companies pushing for amnesty. Of course they don't pay their employees a living wage. They have a solution to your demand for $15/hr--it's called amnesty and they intend to bring in third world criminal invaders, all who will work for $8-9/hr because they are handed free medical, housing, food, schooling, et al. That's where these employers get "I have jobs no one wants." They will never pay living wage jobs because the people they want to employ don't have to have living wages because the American taxpayer pays the bill.

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