The NRA Reveals Who's to Blame for Ammo Shortage: You

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If you own a gun -- and surveys say that somewhere between 24% and 45% of you do -- it will come as no surprise when I say that the price of ammunition is on the rise.

How much ammo costs have risen is hard to say precisely, because prices vary from place to place, brand to brand, and caliber to caliber. But by way of illustration, the price of Brown Bear 7.62x39mm rifle rounds (standard for an AK-47) on the popular guns 'n' ammo website AIM Surplus has risen from about $85 for a box of 500 rounds in 2007 to $120 near the end of 2013 to "sold out" today. Cheap .22 long-rifle caliber rifle rounds and 9mm pistol ammunition are both said to have more than tripled in price over the past five years, while .40 Smith & Wesson rounds have doubled and .45 ACP costs nearly twice what it did five years ago.

 

Photo: BearAmmo.com.

Scarcity
In short, prices have gone through the roof -- if you're lucky. If you're not lucky, you may have trouble finding ammunition for sale at all. Bare shelves are a common encounter at ammo retailers these days. The situation has gotten so bad that Wal-Mart (NYSE: WMT  ) , one of the cheapest sources of ammunition, instituted a policy early last year limiting customers to buying no more than three boxes of ammo per person, per day.

And this is your first clue to why prices have been shooting up. If prices are sky-high, yet shoppers are still buying -- and not just buying, but sweeping the shelves clean, there's only one logical conclusion:

Hoarding
Credit is due to the National Rifle Association for debunking conspiracy theories about "the government" causing this crisis. Last month's issue of American Rifleman, the "official journal of the NRA," lays out the case for why American gun owners have only themselves to blame for the steep rise in ammunition prices (and the steep fall in ammunition supply).

From 2000 to 2012, the NRA reported, excise taxes received by the federal government on ammunition sales (a proxy for ammo sales per se) roughly tripled in size. The dollar value of actual ammunition sales increased nearly 100% from 2007 to 2012. In real life, the NRA explained this means that ammunition sales "started to climb fast as gun sales began surging" in the run-up to the 2008 presidential election.

High prices, low supply
Conspiracy theorists will dispute this simple explanation, no doubt. But it jibes with what manufacturers of ammunition are saying. ATK (NYSE: ATK  ) subsidiary Federal Cartridge, for example, has a statement on its website advising, "We are currently experiencing high demand for our products." In an interview with American Rifleman, Federal confirmed, too, that "the current increase in demand," (and by implication, the increase in prices) "is attributed to the civilian market" (this means you).

Olin's  (NYSE: OLN  ) Winchester Ammunition said on its website it is also "experiencing an extremely high demand." And privately held Freedom Group, which manufactures Remington cartridges, said "it's clear to us that any lack of supply in the marketplace has been from consumer demand."

Probably the clearest explanation of what's going on, though, comes from privately held Hornady Manufacturing, where President Steve Hornady painted this picture: "People walk into the store, they don't see as much as they want so they take everything they can get. The next guy who comes in can't get anything, so he panics." 

Note that at no point does price even become a consideration here. And if price is no object -- then yes, of course, these companies are going to raise prices to maximize profits.

Time for some good news
The NRA doesn't exactly bring clean hands to this debate, of course. The association's incessant drumbeat of panic-talk about President Barack Obama wanting to "come and take your guns" was arguably the firing pin that ignited the wave of panic-buying in 2007-2008. Still, the NRA deserves some credit for finally explaining the cause.

And now that we do know the cause of high ammunition prices, and low ammunition supply, we can predict with some confidence that the days of ever-increasing ammo prices may finally be at an end. Last week, Cabela's (NYSE: CAB  ) CEO Thomas Millner noted in an earnings conference call that he's seen a "significant deceleration in ammunition sales" over the past three months, and said "the surge in firearms and ammunition is clearly winding down." Dick's Sporting Goods (NYSE: DKS  ) , another big ammunition retailer, hasn't reported its fourth-quarter numbers yet. But back in November CEO Edward Stack told investors to expect "softer" ammunition sales in the fourth quarter as well.

This won't be great news for ammunition manufacturers ATK and Olin, of course. But for gun owners, a respite from the endless cycle of high demand begetting high prices and low supply -- begetting even higher demand -- will be a welcome bit of good news. 

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  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Maxillary wrote:

    I can agree with National Rifle Association.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 1:37 PM, snipe1949 wrote:

    We had two wars going on and ammunition was plentiful. Now the wars are just about done and we have a shortage how could that be.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Jsshous wrote:

    Ammunition sales spiked because of the Colorado theater shooting, the Sandyhook shooting and the leftist overreaction to try to ban all guns from Dianne Feinstein and other Democrats. Additional fear mongering by Democrats and Obama's insistence in signing on to the UN gun registration scheme,have also not helped. If Republicans are successful in taking back the Senate, I expect ammunition sales will begin to normalize nationwide.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 1:52 PM, lmosca wrote:

    Gun owners have been rabble-roused into hoarding ammo by that same NRA telling them Obama was coming to take away their arms, which is patently ridiculous. If you're that stupid, maybe you shouldn't be carrying a firearm.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 1:54 PM, jcb1948 wrote:

    I can understand that civilian purchases are driving the thing, but this doesn't discount the effect of government agencies also choosing this time to purchase millions of rounds.

    But the comment about the NRA's "drumbeat" is unfair. If they reported that Sen. Obama was on record, on camera, saying that no one should have guns, what did you expect? But the post-Obama rush died off. When did the current craze hit? When the post-Sandy Hook laws started hitting Congress. Even though they never went anywhere, people are worried about what will happen next time. That's not the NRA's doing.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 1:57 PM, JePonce wrote:

    It is the Obama firearm ban in disguise.

    90% of law abiding citizens own caliber .22 rifles and hand guns.

    Radical Obama is using taxpayer dollars to buy .22 ammo as fast as it is manufactured.

    No ammo, no ability to defend one's self from oppressive/progressive government.

    He is either stockpiling it or selling it at discount prices to foreign countries.....even our enemies?

    If you cannot create the rhetorical illusion that banning firearms is a moral imperative, you go through the back door.

    Clever, yes! Ethical, not during our lifetimes.

    Dangerous, more so than Al Qaeda.

    Next level...the .223 is on the horizon.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 1:57 PM, xfer42 wrote:

    There were several bills proposed in many states which would ban mail order ammo and require sellers to do background checks. This would force folks to buy locally, and it would reduce the local sales at the same time. Of course people are going to stock up.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 1:59 PM, proseiden wrote:

    Doing our part to keep Americans Employed. NRA your numbers are skewed, yes as of the late Americans are buying more ammo since the govt has slowed buying ammo itself over the past year. American doing their part to keep up with the IRS purchasing at all time highs, which is not reported here either.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 1:59 PM, greystonefarm wrote:

    That's like yelling "Fire" and then explaining that people died from being trampled. It isn't our fault people trampled each other??? Really???

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:00 PM, CalvinballPro wrote:

    NRA members have a proud history of being very gullible and easily susceptible to efforts to grift them out of their money. Their trigger point is their gun, so just mention "gun rights" and an NRA member will literally lose their mind about it.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:01 PM, peckbill wrote:

    The NRA is to blame for all ammo shortages as well as all improper killings in America. America needs gun control to leave guns at home and out of the sight of the public except for approved law enforcement personnel.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:02 PM, mwesten wrote:

    Panic buying started it all and shop owners didn't help. I know a store owner who put hundreds of magazines in his back room to create a "shortage" on the floor and jack up price.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Fredf wrote:

    So the reason for high prices is because the gunners are buying too many guns and ammo. For once the guilty party is paying the price.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:11 PM, wcravens wrote:

    Let's have no talk of the NRA's hands being less than clean in the matter. The Obama administration, and the Democrats at the national level, have vehemently and venomously pursued draconian gun control laws for decades. Everywhere that they are in positions of uncontested power, they seek to impose as much restriction on citizens' rights to own firearms as they think they can get away with.

    Some on the Left have tried to claim positions of compromise with the 2nd Amendment and gun owners, but when you consider their rhetoric and the policies they offer, it is clear that an eventual, virtual ban on privately-owned guns is the long-term intention. Other openly call for banning firearms, and the alleged 'moderates' accept their votes, their support, and their money.

    Nobody in the NRA is advocating the legalization of privately-owned bombs, military rockets or heavy artillery. All that is being defended is the citizens' right to own what the military collectively refers to as "small arms"... hand-held rifles, pistols, and shotguns. And we should keep in mind that the NRA champions this right for all sane adult and law-abiding citizens, regardless of gender, race, religion or ethnicity.

    This right is the proof-test of any nation's commitment to real democracy. The voting system can be manipulated. "Checks and balances" can be overcome or sidestepped. High-minded politicians in Chicago's City Hall, or the governor's mansion, or the halls of the US Congress really do not care about the people who are being held up, beaten up, raped or murdered by ruthless thugs in their districts. The places with the strictest gun control are always the places with the worst violent crime. But you can count on those thugs having an aversion to being shot. A loaded gun in the hands of a law-abiding citizen is a much better friend than any politiician, when lives are on the line.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:16 PM, TheAncient wrote:

    The title is spot on. The greedy and weak minded gun owners are the ones driving up prices, creating the shortages contrary to what the Obama haters try to think. Manufacturers of ammo and components are hard pressed to keep up with demand but are also taking advantage of the shortage caused by the hoarders. The hoarders are the worst; they buy every caliber they can then when the weak minded panic they buy the jacked up priced ammo. This allows the hoarder to go buy more to do the same. I had an opportunity to buy from a middleman as did others in my shooting group. Many were wanting 5000+ rds of .22LR at 16 cents a round simply for the purpose of reselling at an even higher price. With the shelves empty the weak minded pay that jacked up price of perhaps 20 cents a round for .22LR that had been selling for 5-6 cents. It is not the government's fault, nor Obama's nor the IRS it is the greedy shooters or non-shooting hoarders.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:17 PM, comosichiam wrote:

    To the fool that is blaming the NRA for so called improper killings what do you consider a proper killing. It is fools like you who buy the gun grabbers stupid blabbering. For your information dim wit guns in the hands of law abiding citizens save lives and property every day and you fools think only law enforcement should be armed what a fool you are an unarmed citizenry is a people that can be subjected to tyranny what stupid school did you do to Didn't you learn why the 2nd amendment was put in place goof it is their to protect us from idiots like you who want the sheep defenseless just like Hitlers Germany idiot/

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:20 PM, TheAncient wrote:

    wcarvens - re your comment. That old dog don't hunt. This stuff has been going on off and on for 50 years. Do keep in mind that while the 'left' is 'trying to take your guns', the right IS shrinking your paycheck. By supporting either Party means you approve of this behavior.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:21 PM, jonathondough wrote:

    What we had was a "perfect storm". Over the years we have seen consolidation in the ammo and arms industry. Next - add to it paranoia over gun control legislation. Now throw in some conspiracy theories and the new "prepper craze" and top it off with a bunch of new gun owners and you end up with ammo shortages. It's a simple formula - you have less ammo suppliers who produce ammo "on demand" rather than storing large amounts which cost money and then you have lots of buyers. It's ironic that many who push conspiracy theories also advertise or sell prepper supplies don't you think?? Coincidence - I think not. As to .22lr ammo - the largest producer CCI is now owned by ATK who also own Federal ammo and additionally makes most of the .17 HMR ammo on the market under contract for Hornady and others. They have a finite production capacity and simply can not keep up. Also - PMC used to sell rimfire ammo but stopped about 5 years ago so that's one less supplier right there. A lot of ammo is imported and it takes time (weeks to months) to pass customs before it can be released for retail sale. It's NOT government buys which only account for a small portion of all ammo produced - it's the tens of millions of gun owners scrambling to get what they can.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:25 PM, bobc513 wrote:

    I am far from being a "conspiracy nut", but I have seen some figures about government purchases of common ammo that make my hair stand on end. Government purchases for non-enforcement agencies like DOA, NASA, IRS and NOAA have increased as well as enforcement agencies like FBI, CIA etc. by an order of magnitude. I've seen the government requisition forms online. Are you (or the NRA) saying that those forms and figures are not true or are you saying don't believe you're lying eyes we know best?

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:26 PM, adrianangel wrote:

    I just read the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. The people do not have the right to bear arms. It says a "well regulated militia" has the right to bear arms for the defense of the people. :)

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:26 PM, JBlk wrote:

    This whole ammo shortage has been designed to eliminate ammo from the citizents.Why wouldn't the tax increase by leaps and bounds when you consider how much the price of ammo or componets has increased.Those factories can produce millions of rounds of ammoin a twenty four hour period, they claim they are running at maxium out put.They have also cut off amost all reloading componets, I am sure you can figure out that answer, we now have so many more people reloading.I can assure you of one thing, someone in the NRA who is putting out this BS will be much more affulent in the near future.This posture of the NRA has convinced me that they no longer support the people who have suported them, and I for one will no longer believe their propaganda.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:27 PM, GreyWolff wrote:

    Gander Mountian has an awesome sale going on right now, just picked up over 2500 rds of 22LR at a decent price at about 5 cents each. Picking up more before the 22nd when the sale ends

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:32 PM, ResidualRevenge wrote:

    The IRS, which primarily acts as an audit agency, refuses to answer why its agents need AR-15s for “standoff capability.”

    In May, U.S. Congressman Jeff Duncan (R-SC) was getting a lot of questions about ammo shortages and government agencies stockpiling guns and ammo. He wanted to know why IRS agents were buying ammo in large quantities and wanted to see the ammo supply himself. He went to the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) in Maryland where he witnessed 8 or 9 IRS agents using AR-15s at an indoor 100 yard firing range.

    Duncan questioned why IRS agents needed to be trained with AR-15 military rifles with 30 round magazines for “standoff capability” and why the IRS couldn’t use agencies like the U.S. Marshals to assist them when needed.

    BenSwann.com asked Duncan if the IRS offered him any new information regarding his investigation.

    “The IRS has not been cooperative. My committee doesn’t have direct oversight over the IRS so I’ve been trying to build support for an investigation. The IRS has not shown me any information on why they need to train with AR-15′s,” Duncan said.

    The IRS is not the only federal agency stocking up tactical weapons and training for paramilitary raids.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:34 PM, JuanGatos wrote:

    Here in CT everything is plentiful except 22 rimfire. Hit Walmart early in the morning or Bookmark Cabela's 22 ammo page and check it out every morning.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:36 PM, jonathondough wrote:

    JBlk - if CCI produces 4 million rounds of .22lr a day - that is only 8,000 - 500rd bricks per day or 240K per month. When you have gun owners buying 2 or 3 bricks of .22lr at a pop - how long do you think the supply is going to last considering there are literally MILLIONS of people who own .22lr rifles and pistol???? Do the math - it's not a "conspiracy" - it's supply and demand.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:38 PM, DISKPART wrote:

    All of this has ruined a very fun hobby I loved. Welcome to the new America :(

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:41 PM, 2smartforlibs wrote:

    The government buying rounds and raising taxes had nothing to do with it. MY ASS. this was nothing more or less than a way to end run the 2nd amendment

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Michaellaborde wrote:

    Obama, through FEMA and other government entities have been buying up all of the ammo getting ready for the Obama dictatorship.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:42 PM, bobc513 wrote:

    Something else I've seen recently is going to make the hoarding even greater. The Obama administration's EPA has recently closed down the last Lead (Pb) smelter in this country for "pollution-related" reasons. That means that henceforth all Lead for bullets (and everything else) will have to be imported or replaced by other heavy metals. I've heard (don't know if it's true) that the Army is changing to or testing 100% copper slugs. With the price of copper what it is, that sounds like an expensive transition. As for civilian ammo it sounds like more shortages or steep price increases to stay with Lead or to go to alternate material for bullets.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:42 PM, LegalGunOwner wrote:

    I'm not a hoarder, but I like to keep enough rounds (500) in each caliber to assure I'll have enough for regular practice and self defense. In the Denver area, there's no such thing as dropping by Cabela's or Wal-Mart for a day's supplies...they're always out.

    The government HAS bought billions of rounds of popular calibers, which is a big factor in the ammo market. It's backdoor gun control. Since the vast majority of ammo sold is for PRACTICE, one would think that would be a good thing...practice makes perfect, after all.

    What possible use does the government have for all that ammunition? What is it doing with it? What does it cost US to purchase and store it? These are the questions MF ought to be asking!!

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:43 PM, oldass wrote:

    24-45% really, maybe 24-45% of the Earth's population. C'mon man, did you just make that up or what?

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Firnatine14 wrote:

    Sorry but I call partial BS, yes currently this is the issue but before very recently, over a year ago say it was not consumers causing this but government, DHS and other government agencies purchased hundreds of millions of rounds of 9mm, 40 s&w, .223 (5.56), .308 and buckshot and that was exactly where the shortages were, people began buying up .22 for example because they could find nothing else in common American calibers, the shortage created a paranoia that continues despite the forced end to the massive government purchases due to congressional pressure. This is not a conspiracy theory fool look at the purchase orders they are a matter of public record and congressmen discussed the issue from both parties.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:50 PM, tjboo wrote:

    Liberal propaganda, what a farce.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:50 PM, boilermike68 wrote:

    To say that the NRA's hands are a "little" dirty is a JOKE. During the presidential run in 2007/08 they ran ridiculous scare tactic stories regarding Obama (no big fan of by the way). The drummed up speeches he made while running for office YEARS before and included them as if they were current. I know for a fact that caused much of the ammo run near me. My own hunting buddies were buying it like crazy, the reason they said was because according to the NRA Obama was going to raise taxes on it something like 300% or more. Being how I am, I actually took the time to delve into the quotes used in the article. That's how I know where they came from and what they were referring to. I went to Cabelas a few weeks after that and the cashier told me guys were buying ammo by the CART FULL!! I asked her why and she said they told her that "The NRA had said he was going to raise taxes to where they wouldn't be able to afford it". None of which ever happened. I understand newspapers, magazines etc have an agenda, but as citizens we need to take those into account when reading things during an election. Unfortunately, too many of us are too lazy to spend 10 minutes verifying a story and would rather depend on groups like the NRA to be 100% honest. Newsflash people, they are not. Sad but true. Doubt it? Take a look back at the articles about Obama and then look at where they took them from, it's really not that difficult.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:50 PM, jonathondough wrote:

    It's not hard to understand why we are where we are when you read all the misguided comments here. It's obvious that a lot of people are succumbing to conspiracy theory, Here are some FACTS. First - the government has not been buying "billions of rounds of popular calibers". Complete and total BS. Some "government purchase requests" were circulated by some which detailed the POSSIBLE AMOUNT the government MIGHT BUY - not the ACTUAL AMOUNTS they did buy which are noted in the letter posted by Senator Colburn into the Congressional Record a year ago which showed that DHS has only bought about 100 million rounds per year for the past several years and this amount is consistent with previous purchases. Next - the smelter that closed was already planning on closing and had NOTHING to do with ammo making. 90% of the lead smelted there goes into BATTERIES - not bullets. Actually most of the bullets made are made from recycled lead that comes from China and other suppliers.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 2:58 PM, grumpyoldman wrote:

    The only thing I had a hard time finding is 22 mag.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 3:11 PM, Perry1212 wrote:

    Git er done!.. You will wish you had bought some too before many more years have passed.. We will soon be figthing to keep ourselves from being replaced in our own country by hundreds of millions of Federal Government sponsored "ILLEGAL WORKERS"... ARM UP AMERICA! .. Don't let Obama and Biden fool you.. You can already see that of our major cities are nothing less than war zones and as the millions of hispanics / south Americans / cartels migrate, it will only get worse.. You dont hink its going to get better do you? HAS IT EVER?

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 3:21 PM, PAA wrote:

    It sure is comforting to know that there are millions of fools, out there, loaded to the teeth. It emphasizes the fact that this country, spiritually, hasn't evolved past the 5 yard line.

    Remind me not to re-incarnate here.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, AmericanBob wrote:

    As a pistol instructor, I know good and well, we are being lied too. By the press, by the NRA, by Washington DC. The truth is, the feds are buying it up, the POST office just ordered a few kagillion rounds. ok, that might not be a real word buy you all know what I mean. The POST OFFICE? did you know the IRS is also buying ammo at an alarming pace? and DHS is also buying ammo, now with the DHS, if they shoot an illegal, they have to use a stupid bean bag round first, but I can buy all the bean bag rounds I want for my 12 gauge shotgun. But, I cant find those 9mm anywhere, I refuse to believe the American Public has bought that much, but, if we have, then I suggest the govt take notice, that there is a large majority of us, that don't want a king, or a fool who goes around congress with a phone and a pen. The only fool that is a good fool is the Montlyfool!

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 3:36 PM, TMFDitty wrote:

    bobc513: Federal has a comment on this on their website. They do not expect to encounter any problems with lead supplies. So no need to worry on that score.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 3:41 PM, jeffsn317 wrote:

    I have said for a long time that I know some people that buy all the ammo they can find and don't even own a firearm! They sell it for a profit to people like me, I go and shoot so I go thru thousands of rds. a year. If you go shoot then I'm ok with you buying so much ammo but not to store 50,000 rds. per weapon, and I also know people that do that too! If I had a bunch of money I guess I would have that much also but it would get shot away little by little, not to just keep for 30 years :)

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 3:44 PM, jeffsn317 wrote:

    you can find ammo it just is really a lot more to pay than a couple years ago!

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 3:55 PM, JoePat3435 wrote:

    And how do you think the gas prices got so high.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 4:30 PM, EricMJohnson wrote:

    First point: there will be no Obama dictatorship. All he wants to do is serve his term (darn, now he is disappointed that he has to serve two of them), push the agenda of the banksters that own our government, then retire and make millions of dollars with speeches and books like the Clintons do.

    Second point: Yes, Democrats DO want to totally disarm Americans, just like what has happened to Britain and Australia. There are hundreds of websites with direct quotes from hundreds of Democrats who want to do just that.

    Third point: Any politician who is fool enough to actually vote for legislation that WILL completely disarm American citizens will learn why the 2nd Amendment was included in the Bill of Rights.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Observer82AB wrote:

    There were noises about ammo shortages before 2008 due to the war in regards to 5.56mm ammo.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 4:41 PM, oldRN wrote:

    The truly sad thing is that the LEFT WING WRITERS never use Fact Checker! The number of Democratic politicians who are on public record clearly saying "Give me the votes and I'll go door-to-door to confiscate those evil firearms" is irrefutable at this point...can you say Cuomo, Schumer, Diane F Mrs Cali, and to many others to list ? The facts are the facts...all your hope and change the narrative isn't working anymore... Smile.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 4:46 PM, kd1965 wrote:

    I find it a little hard to take serious any article that ends in a sales pitch, Can't help to feel theres an angle being worked here!

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 4:51 PM, JoeKarrol wrote:

    If you believe this, I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale, needs work. Creating market shortages by massive purchases, Drying up the market by making ammunition components like lead and spent brass scarce and expensive, Using environmental regulation to ban the use and manufacture of lead. in Dec 2012, that according to their Solid Waste Management Plan, at least one Army Garrison, Fort Drum, NY was crushing spent brass into scrap, going to extra expense to reduce its value, sell it cheaply to China and keep it from being made available to the open market to create private ammo. The list goes on and on with the war on ammo.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 5:03 PM, bobcat1911 wrote:

    Apparently 90% of the people posting here either are complete morons (doomsday preppers/conspiracy theorists) or, didn't read the article, example: " I know good and well, we are being lied too. By the press, by the NRA, by Washington DC. The truth is, the feds are buying it up, the POST office just ordered a few kagillion rounds."

    Idiot!!! the "government" routinely purchases ammo, they have been for awhile, just because someone came across invoices for these purchases, and puts it on the WWW doesn't mean they are stockpiling it! by the way, do you have a french boyfriend?

    Here's another, "Radical Obama is using taxpayer dollars to buy .22 ammo as fast as it is manufactured."

    You sir, have your head buried up your a*#!!!

    This guy makes sense, jonathondough

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Stiles wrote:

    Every time Marxist Obama opens his mouth "control" comes out and the law abiding citizens buy guns and ammo. That is a powerful statement of the state or our union and massive distrust for Obama and his Socialist Democratic party.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 5:19 PM, crmerkel wrote:

    I suppose my first question is "why does the department of homeland security need 1.75 billion rounds of assorted calibers of ammunition? My second is why would the Post Office need 1.25 million rounds and who purchased them being they are going bankrupt?

    I could see avid shooters holding a certain amount for practice purposes, hunting etc. But that in and of itself would not drive the supply low and the demand high causing such a spike in the price.

    I think it's time for ALL OF US to wake up and call your congressmen and senators and DEMAND an investigation into why?

    Remember THEY are the SERVANTS of the people. If we hired them we can fire them.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, GREENONE2014 wrote:

    Walmart will only sell you 3 boxes per sale but i have not run into a sales person that wont ring up sale after sale as long as you put it in your car and come back. Walmart doesn`t take down your id number. They just make sure you have one.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 6:13 PM, hs321 wrote:

    Filling out a 12-page questionnaire [part 1 of questionnaire, part 2 of questionnaire] from an Illinois voter group as he sought a state Senate seat in 1996, ... “Do you support state legislation to … ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns?” asked one of the three dozen questions. “Yes,” was Obama’s entire answer.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7312.html

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 6:14 PM, jonathondough wrote:

    "I suppose my first question is "why does the department of homeland security need 1.75 billion rounds of assorted calibers of ammunition? My second is why would the Post Office need 1.25 million rounds and who purchased them being they are going bankrupt?"

    Please feel free to provide links to the ACTUAL DELIVERY RECIEPTS for this quantity of ammo by these agencies. Mind you NOT the "bid offers" that were circulated by Alex Jones and other conspiracy idiots which listed large amounts but where it plainly stated on the paperwork that the quantities listed represented POSSIBLE amounts to be purchased but in no way represented the actual amount to be delivered. When the government issues bid offers - it lists "large" amounts to get the best bulk price from the supplier - but - it is not a guaranty that the amount of ammo listed will actually be purchased. That is what AJ et al did - they took the "bid request amount" and then spun it to make it sound like the government actually bought that quantity - which they did not. Of course you actually have to be able to READ to figure that out while it's obvious here than many simply take their dose of conspiracy pabulum and then regurgitate it all over the net because that's easier and it fits their preconceived narrative.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 6:59 PM, NovaB wrote:

    nra - one of the WORST right-wing hate groups, right after the gop, nrc and the taebagger bullies. Terrorists all.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 7:34 PM, Pray4Peace wrote:

    How do we reduce the injuries and carnage caused by guns and ammo being in the wrong hands? Cannot believe people take guns to places like Walmart. The hot heads that get into fights are not responsible enough to carry guns.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 7:42 PM, jimbokirko1701 wrote:

    Let us not forget Homeland Securities 2013 purchase of 1.6 - 2.5 Billion rounds of ammo.............and that's no conspiracy theory, that's a fact...................still say it's our fault?

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 7:44 PM, BTYTWO wrote:

    What a rich article. A government agency is actually blaming the consumer for something they caused.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 8:22 PM, Cessna2008 wrote:

    If you're stupid enough to think that the President can "come and take your gun', then you shouldn't be allowed to own one. The President does not establish law; that job belongs to the Legislative Branch. The President can yell and scream all he wants, be he can do nothing without the approval of Congress. The NRA is correct in this instance; the general public is solely to blame for the shortage of ammo. I have also stocked up, simply because I saw what was going to happen. The NRA, RNC and other groups played all of you like fools, you ate it up, and the ammo manufacturers are making boatloads of cash.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 8:36 PM, HDDon wrote:

    Yes people are hoarding it. Why? because it's not out there so we buy as much as they will let us buy because the next time you want it, it won't be available. Seems to me these ammo manufacturers would be increasing production to keep up with the demand. If they were, the price would stay down on it. But instead, the gun shops are price gouging. Cabelas and Dick's say they've seen a decrease in sales. Wonder why! they don't have it to sell.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 8:47 PM, AZsnipe wrote:

    "Dick's Sporting Goods (NYSE: DKS ) , another big ammunition retailer, hasn't reported its fourth-quarter numbers yet. But back in November CEO Edward Stack told investors to expect "softer" ammunition sales in the fourth quarter as well."

    The reason they expect "softer" ammunition numbers is that they have NO AMMUNITION to sell.

    I am an employee of Dicks. We have gotten scarcely any ammunition this year. Haven't seen any .22 in at least a month. 9mm hasn't been in stock for at least as long. We get a couple of cases of ammo on each truck (that's about 24 boxes) That sells out in a matter of minutes. Before the "STUPIDITY", we got dozens of cases on each truck. Ammo sales in this market HAVE NOT softened.

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 8:50 PM, salg wrote:

    in fla we have no problem with getting 9 mm or 22 reg lr or stinger 380 is the hardest to get

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 8:57 PM, salg wrote:

    az snipe fla has all the 22 and 9mm you can ask for

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 10:32 PM, adsasdasda wrote:

    This is why I don't read Fool.com. All their articles make you read through a bunch of non-sensual garbage before getting to a simple answer 3/4 of the way down the page. Sometimes their articles don't even give a concrete answer on something. It's just a bunch of superfluous fluff. Fool.com is horrible and suggest people stop reading it. Huge Huge time waster

  • Report this Comment On February 17, 2014, at 11:25 PM, josh10177 wrote:

    I stopped reading this propaganda when you said 24 to 45% i don't like writers with a lust for communism and population control lying right in my face with their words.

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 12:07 AM, NoMoeMoney wrote:

    Just look at all the hate coming from all over : MSNBC, Huffpost, Fox, throw in Obama, Democrats, Republicans, Poor- Rich, Black- White, Young- Old and you will see that there is a full scale Ideological war in progress? Its just a small upward move before it becomes a real full scale shooting war! Something is going to happen somewhere and the powder keg explodes and when it does it will be too late to arm yourselves . People can sense this and want to be prepared for anything that might happen and that means being armed and having lots of ammo. If you don't have the ability to defend yourself and your family you are just going to be roadkill.

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 12:34 AM, shotthrough wrote:

    What a load...

    If the shortage was milk the industry would add cows. When it comes to making maxium cash the industry chose Bull.

    Add the machinery,the supply returns, the price drops. NRA get real your out of touch, un realistic nonsense blames the shooter for buying to many bullets when they are available and not the slow supply chain. Bar Keep I've been waiting for another for half n hour. Would you please put down that blond and pour me another or hire some one who can,

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 1:21 AM, RonRon2 wrote:

    For ONCE the NRA is right, it's YOU, the public that were too easily spooked by the fear mongering conservatives & 2nd amendment lovers that keep saying over & over; Obama & the gun grabbers are coming, to take your guns! When Obama 1st got elected there was a big run on guns & ammo, just when I was in the market to upgrade my carry gun, the prices went up! Nothing happened. Obama is elected to a 2nd term, the gun grabbers are coming! Again, nothing happened. You can believe Alex Jones, Glen Beck, Ted Nugent, & all the silly conspiracy nuts if you choose! Then of course Sandy Hook & the Mall shootings happened, & let's face it when children die, people just felt that SOMETHING needed to be done. Again the gun grabbers are coming, everybody loads up & hoards all the ammo they can. But in the end, all they were asking for is better background checks, NOT taking guns away! A lot of you may hate Obama, believe what you what, but one thing, he's not stupid, he would never try to actually take law abiding citizen's guns. And he would never put us in Law Enforcement & the Military in the position of drawing guns on our own, it's not ever going to happen.

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 1:45 AM, FJR1300A wrote:

    I appreciate the article straightening out most of the ammo issue, though it was the NRA that did the legwork. I am also appalled at the ignorance concerning guns, 2nd Amendment, the NRA, etc. Let's see, in no particular order. Some of you blame the NRA and the tea party, etc. for the rise in gun crime and violence. Well sorry, the official information from the FBI Uniform Crime Reports says otherwise. I looked back to about 1991, starting a couple of years ago. In that time, our population(Census Bureau figures) has increased about 60,000,000+, to over 300,000,000. Estimates I have seen of legally owned firearms range from 250,000,000 to over 270,000,000; owned by over 85,000,000 people. In all that time, the rate of murder has dropped by over half. So, let's pause; lots more people, lots more firearms-which kind of goes with the theme of the article. The rate of crime has dropped in half; along with that, the totally worthless prior "assault weapons" ban(find the DOJ paper done in 2003 hidden in their website-utterly worthless failure-made no measurable difference in the rate of crime at all-we tried to tell you in the beginning)has expired. The amount of people having concealed carry permits has greatly expanded as well. So, logically, if it were true that a bunch of law-abiding citizens having guns were to result in a huge rise in crime, don't you think it would have happened by now? It has gone quite the opposite way, dramatically. Oh, with a couple of exceptions, the two most restrictive places for gun ownership, in order, Chicago and DC, have a ENORMOUSLY greater rates of violent crimes, including murder. To the person who said the 2nd Amendment only guarantees militias to have guns: WRONG! The Supreme Court has already correctly interpreted it to mean private citizens. Even if it meant that, which it never has, who would you think comprises a militia? All citizens of military age who are not guilty of any serious crimes. That takes into account the majority of the population. AND, they would traditionally be armed with military compatible weapons, to allow for ammunition interchangeability. As to the NRA, it correctly reports in every issue, a small sample of news articles(so you at home can verify them) of citizens or off-duty cops who use a gun to prevent a crime. The low estimates of those incidents are 800,000/year, up to possibly over 2.5 million +. I personally, though fortunately never had to draw a gun, had one available in my hand 3 times in a year's period when various people came knocking at my door in the middle of the night, 2 blocks from the cop shop. They knew it, they went away with no problems. Seems my neighbor was a drug dealer besides being a wildland fire fighter. Last, for now, the matter of the NRA stirring up people with gloom and doom about politicians taking away their guns. There isn't room here, but it's REALLY easy to find various statements from Obama, Holder, Feinstein and on and on that show that's their intent. Those of you who insist that's not true, tell me, have you ever bothered to look yourself or do you just like to go along unquestioning the liberal line of BS that says all these things? Afraid you'll find out it was all lies? That is exactly what you will find.

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 2:56 AM, motormouth wrote:

    The NRA is full of it. And that is why I cancelled my membership after 6 yrs. In 2013 S&W commented on their FaceBook page about a weekend shooting event where "our contestants shot 38,000 rounds. Hoarding scumbags. I went to 6 consecutive gun shows in 2013 and could not find a teaspoon of gunpowder or a box of ammunition for any of the 16 different caliber firearms that I have access to if I wish to use them. I for one am not hoarding.

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 5:09 AM, jonathondough wrote:

    It's not difficult to see why the US scores so poorly in math and science compared to other nations. One need only read the comments here and you can see a great many people who are ignorant in math skills. People rant about how ammo companies make millions of rounds a day - yet we have a shortage. Let's do a math problem shall we. If you have 5 million folks who own an AR-15 and they each want to buy 100rds of .223 - how many bullets is that?? Answer - HALF A BILLION ROUNDS!! Now that is a very low estimate of owners and a low amount of ammo as these folks can easy piss away hundreds of rounds at a pop as seen on Youtube videos. Say Remington makes 20 million rounds of pistol ammo a day - sounds like a lot doesn't it except that pistol ammo comes in 50rd boxes. So lets take that 20 million and divide it by 50 - what do we get?? Answer - 400,000 boxes of pistol ammo. Again - sounds like a lot except there are MILLIONS of pistol owners who most certainly will buy more than one box at a time. Let's estimate that there are 80 million gun owners in the US which is probably a bit low as polls on gun ownership indicate that about 30% of households own guns and there are 300+ million people in the US per the 2010 census. If only half of this 80 million shoot on average 200 rounds a year - which is probably low - that comes to 8 BILLION ROUNDS OF AMMO! Don't forget that ammo companies also sell ammo overseas to other countries so that part of their production must go to fulfill these contracts as well as supply you. Is it starting to sink in people?? Do you see the big picture?? Forget about all the conspiracy crap and the anecdotal "my store has or doesn't have" stories. It's a simple matter of SUPPLY AND DEMAND. Ammo companies can only produce "X" amount and there are "Y" number of guns owners. Just look at other countries that do not have "panic" going on - they have PLENTY OF AMMO. Now if the ammo companies are exporting the same amount of ammo to their distributors overseas that they usually do - and the stores have plenty of ammo - then obviously it's due to the buyers not panicking and hoarding every bullet they can get their hands on. It's not the "government" causing this problem - it YOU!! Calm down and quit buying every thing you can for a while and the ammo supply will return to normal.

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 9:23 AM, BigFED wrote:

    "We are currently experiencing high demand for our products."

    Thee is a BIG difference in "high demand" and availability. I work in a gun shop in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and the lack of product is EVERYWHERE!!! Three of our DISTRIBUTORS don't have any of almost ANY caliber!!! There HAS to be more than "DEMAND" since if the distributors don't have any product, the stores can't get it to fulfill demand!!! And the "demand" just isn't that freaking high for .25ACP, .32ACP and a host of other lesser popular calibers!!! Same for rifle calibers other than .223/5.56mm including .243 Win and other common hunting rifle calibers!!!

    Industry trade articles indicate that the four major manufacturers of .22 rim fire ammo (Winchester, Remington, Federal and CCI) have an estimated manufacturing capacity of 10-14 millions rounds per day. So where is it being intercepted before it gets to the distributors???

    Granted, having the "capacity" is NOT the same as actually producing ANY amount.

    In the immortal words of that airline pilot "Sum Ting Wong"!!!

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 9:54 AM, BigFED wrote:

    Oh, and why does the accompanying picture show military 7.62x51 NATO linked machine gun ammunition belts??? The military has its OWN source of supply that has NO impact on the availability of commercial/civilian grade ammunition!!!

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 10:22 AM, sabebrush6 wrote:

    You look at who's in the white house,and you have to ask why ?

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 11:13 AM, skywalker wrote:

    As a european, I just can believe whats going on in the US with guns and rifles? As soon as it comes to that, almost everyone gets angry when there is speak of a restriction on some kind of weapons. Automatic rifles should not be in a private house. What for? To defend yourself when 500 people attack your house? That is just silly. There is no private use for that kind of guns.

    There are more guns on US streets than pets!

    Just read the 2nd Amendment of your Constitution and interpret it correct. Not like the NRA does. They just want to keep you afraid that you buy guns and ammos so that they keep making money throuhg lobbying.

    Just my opinion. Sorry for the bad english.

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 1:00 PM, wcravens wrote:

    To Ancient: The dog still gets game, so he hunts fine. Evidence of Left / Democrat determination to ban guns is undeniable. Chicago has the strictest bans on guns and ammunition to be found anywhere in the country. Illinois is one of the most restrictive states in the nation as regards owning / using guns legally. The Republicans make a poor showing in Illinois state politics most years and, as for Chicago, the Chicago Republican should be on the extinct species list. There hasn't been a Republican mayor of Chicago for 100 years. Yet Chicago currently has the worst rate of violent crime in the nation, and it's almost always a "contender". The lessons to be learned from this are that:

    1) The Left uses criminal violence as the basis for trying to pass laws that ban guns,

    2) When banning a particular type of gun has no effect, they turn to other types of guns and ammo to restrict or ban.

    3) Where the Left is in-charge, violence and the social irresponsibility that goes with their policies tend to increase, and

    4) Said increase is invariably used as the justification for calling for more gun control.

    This is a vicious circle that has been spinning for 50+ years on a national level. Anyone who looks at it with open eyes can immediately see where it's going. Liberal / Left Democrats have been promising a "safe society" for decades, if only we would give them court-ordered bussing, complete control of the public schools, a free hand with taxes and regulations, and whatever bans or restrictions on guns they claim to need. They have NEVER produced the safe society they have promised. Instead, the taxes, and the bans / restrictions on guns and ammo, are all too real, while the promised benefits are never to be found.

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 1:19 PM, VegasSmitty wrote:

    Ammo prices have come down considerably so I don't see the point of this article but to stir up ignorant people.

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, ethhaadam wrote:

    I suppose we're making the oil prices go up also, huh! Start talking to the 7 power families of the world and maybe they'll tell everyone that they do whatever they want to do when they want to do it and how much they say it'll go up...doesn't make much sense, but I'll put a years worth of wages up that it's pretty accurate to anyone who will jump out of their protected box and just speak up without fear to mankind! This is just another ploy of traditions of manipulating the general public who 'believes' in their government...just saying and it's pretty accurate too! God Bless all who BELIEVE ON THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST...AMEN!

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 4:43 PM, SLTom992 wrote:

    Most of this is pure BS - the LAST lead smelter was given regulations by the EPA so strict that they closed their door rather than bother trying to pass them only to have the standards increased.

    And the military bought over a million rounds of ammunition.

    All of this is what triggered the buying spree among gun owners.

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 6:24 PM, BobinTexas wrote:

    Paranoia drives demand in the marketplace. A few weeks ago there was a report that there was a shortage of Velveeta cheese. The next day I saw a man leave a Wal-Mart with no less that 10 yellow boxes in his cart. When the last issue about gun control became national, the price of guns and ammunition went up at least 50% overnight. It has stayed high because people are terrified that they won't be able to buy enough. A useful market demands a rational environment to operate in. We haven't had a rational environment in almost 50 years.

  • Report this Comment On February 18, 2014, at 7:45 PM, snipe1949 wrote:

    There was two wars going on and Ammo was plentiful now there over and you cant buy ammo. And why doesn't the NRA speak out about price gougers like cabela's. Manufacturers have raised there price a few cents its the stores that are gouging us. We need boycotts. of all them. They want us to buy guns but we cant buy anything to shoot threw them. Without bullets they are worthless.

  • Report this Comment On February 19, 2014, at 1:13 AM, CALNNC wrote:

    Hoarding is the real culprit here, and dealers, with a little foresight, might have instituted max single purchase levels so things would be a bit more fair. Hey, that's free enterprise at it's best though. To all the antigun zealots posting here, your arguments can be refuted at all levels, to deny the reality of gun ownership in the US is to be a programmed automoton. Ammo makers in the country sell millions upon millions of rounds of ammo each year. Do you know where 99.9999999% of it goes? Into the berm behind a paper target. There is no firearm ownership or use problem here, just closed minds pushing more laws that do nothing but rob more freedom.

  • Report this Comment On February 19, 2014, at 2:23 AM, LTDan wrote:

    You mean non gun owners are not buying ammo. Well, that's a shocker(sarcasm)

    It's not like Obama, Reid and Pelosi tried to ban firearms right(again, sarcasm)

    I'm sure the Department of Homeland Security needed those 1.7 billion rounds this year.

    If the govt threated the food supply, what do you suppose would have to food supplies and prices.

    Obama and his bunch knew exactly what they were doing.

  • Report this Comment On February 19, 2014, at 8:18 AM, bushcrimefamily wrote:

    its an amazing world we live in. for 50 years the nra has paid congress to gin up the democrats are coming for your guns. congress gets rich, the gun manufacturers get rich, and you have a couple hundred dollars of ammo and a few guns hidden in yuor house. the U.S. government has a 800 billion dollar a year budget, drone, planes, tanks, armored trucks, missles. and ford truck that can drive thru your house without getting a dent in it. its a pattern from the rich to keep you scared, so they get richer, and the democrats own as many guns as republicans do. the nra and the spokespeople, the republicans, have turned america in fraidly cats, who fear everything, and everyone. what you should fear are the republicans who are told by the rich how to run this country. its working like charm.

  • Report this Comment On February 19, 2014, at 11:27 AM, oneofthereds wrote:

    when you close down the smelters,and you start to use other metals for bullets, and the gov. is buying up bullets left and right and having made up new bullets that break into nine chunks of bullets, then you throw in the fear B.S. , now who started this B.S. some of it was us of course 7 yrs ago i heard the first advise to buy all the ammo you could and was asked if i wanted to put in a order. it all started right before obamma and now look at the crap going on , don't need too wonder much ,thats for sure

  • Report this Comment On February 19, 2014, at 11:33 AM, oneofthereds wrote:

    non gun owners buying ammo, sounds familiar ,like quota hunts being taken up by peta, we will just make our own bullets w/ hopped up hp behind them lol

  • Report this Comment On February 19, 2014, at 10:29 PM, duckman8527 wrote:

    Does the words divide and conquer ring a bell to anyone. If the antigun crowd can get NRA member fighting each other then we have lost our guns and the right to own them. This is just my opinion. I am sure that there are more people out there that knows more about this subject than I do.

  • Report this Comment On March 20, 2014, at 10:48 AM, ALLTERRAIN wrote:

    Excellent article!

    Case in point...

    I'm an avid shooter of factory ammo (i.e. I don't load or re-load my own). Recently went shopping for my brand of choice. Had an EXTREMELY difficult time finding any at my local brick & mortar stores here in PA and/or on-line! Finally found what I looking for (on-line) and ended up buying WAY more than I typically would have...all because of how scarce it has become. It's a vicious cycle and I'm part of the problem, I know, but a gun becomes an expensive paperweight without any ammo to run through it.

  • Report this Comment On March 26, 2014, at 7:25 PM, craftyos wrote:

    A great number of 22lr is being purchased by resellers. They wait in line up to 5 hrs at our local Walmart to get their 3 boxes per person. With the high number of resellers, they usually get all of them. Then they resell through the Peddler or at gunshows for 4-6x their purchase price. As long as people are willing to pay around $300 for 1k rnds, you will ALWAYS have a shortage on retailers shelves. I see this first hand, not just rumors.

  • Report this Comment On March 27, 2014, at 12:12 PM, xaztec wrote:

    This is not simply hoarding. I'd like to see actual production numbers from the ammunition manufacturers. I think the ammo manufacturers caught on to the oil company scam where they create a fake shortage to drive up the cost. I'm sure contributions to the NRA has increased so they have a vested interest in dispelling any conspiracy theories but this is the only one that truly makes any sense and these articles, if you read between the lines, show that.

    Notice the qualifiers used in this article: the "dollar value" of actual ammunition sales increased nearly 100%. That probably has more to do with the fact that the PRICE of ammunition has increased more than 100% (100%++). That doesn't mean the QUANTITY of ammo sold had increased.

    Next, look at excise tax. Excise tax is calculated as a percentage of sale price. So if the sale price doubled, so would the excise tax collected. But, note the period of time in their sample (2000 - 2012). That's 12 years. I would expect there to be a sizable increase in that amount of time. But, if you look at the ATF's website, they list the total excise tax collection per year. During the 12 years used as the sample in this article, total excise tax collections only increased by 75%. It did NOT triple...not even close.

    So I think this article, like many, many others I've read on this subject, is, at best, inaccurate and misleading.

  • Report this Comment On May 19, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Bailenforcer wrote:

    It strikes me funny how intellectually LAZY so called journalists and writers are today. The ammunition problem is a death of 1000 cuts scenario. It is not one simple thing, it is a combination of stupidity and real life actions that cause this. Let's examine and I will start with this articles assertion first.

    1. Hoarding, yes it is a problem and hope they all wake up.

    2. Government surges in buying ammo and contracts that limit the ammunition manufacturers rights to sell the the public. YES the GSA contracts now include a US FIRST clause meaning the manufacturers are given an unreasonable order to supply hideous amounts to the FED first causing the manufacturer to only be able to run over time pay shifts to make or worse yet retool to supply what will be a limited time market, meaning eventually this shortage will stop leaving the manufacturer with a capacity it no longer needs and bleed money keeping it going or worse yet be forced to close down the extra capacity causing a financial/capital investment loss.

    3. The scum.. Yes the people who run to walmart and buy a $20 box of ammo and then sell it on gunbroker for $80 to $100 are pond scum at the least and should have their accounts closed. These auction sites are causing this problem by allowing a handful of scum not only cause this problem, but rip off their own customer base. Most states have anti gouging laws that would punish people doing the same thing with gasoline and other products like water after w disaster. I ended my relationship with Gunbroker and the other auction sites due to this.

    4. We should be investing in the gun industry instead of just buying stock in the drug companies that are drugging us into complacency and the many stocks we buy in companies that we know are screwing we the people. WTF? Why?

    I own stocks in the gun trade because it benefits me and my grandchildren in the future. A powerful gun industry can't be bullied as easy as they have been and it makes sense to back them with money instead of the last 50 years of empty words by people whining and making silly conspiracy theories. If we the People are more powerful financially and in action instead of words we win. I grow weary of the run the mouth do nothing so called gun owners.

    5. Send the NRA a message and if they get it maybe the millions who left the NRA may come back. NO MORE ignoring the gun owners, and quit making deals to sell our rights away like the NFA weapons surrender position the NRA promotes. When the NRA gets its act together it might actually become as powerful as the liberals claim it is. Till then I am done with the fools.

  • Report this Comment On May 22, 2014, at 9:08 AM, rrv57 wrote:

    The answer is always the simple reason . Its to drive up the prices plain and simple. 22 have been soe of the cheapest ammo you could buy. With the climate in the country right now The suppliers see opportunity to drive up prices. Just like the food shortages always drive up prices, Ie: the long forgotten sugar shortage and gas shortage and so on and so forth. Plain and simple.

  • Report this Comment On June 21, 2014, at 4:26 PM, idiotsavant1 wrote:

    The "militia" was understood to mean all able-bodied men age 16 and over. The words "a well regulated militia" is actually two statements. The second statement is "well regulated."

    Regulation of the militia is best accomplished by having a very few (at low expense) of "trainers" for the citizens. The government can provide the intelligence to the militia, but unless the militia is trained to properly use the intelligence, the intelligence is worse than useless. Training also provides a means to insure that the militia can work as a team, rather than at random where nothing effective happens.

    A true militia is not like the draft of Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, and Johnson, where a criminally minded government ripped kids out of their schools, put guns in their hands, and ordered them to kill some other kid (with the same story), a kid with whom they had no issue, in some foreign country. A true militia is like the partisens of Europe, or the firebrands of the American revolution. However, both intelligence and training are needed to properly defend one's homeland. This is the least expensive, and the fairest form of military defence.

    In World War 2 could Japan have actually invaded the continental United States against and armed ( and well regulated) citizen militia? Conversely to be fair, could the might of the United States military actually invaded the Japanese homeland against an armed (and well regulated) Japanese citizen militia? If the French citizens had been the enemy, could d-day have succeeded? The answer is very unlikely. Was General Francisco (Pancho) Villa of the northern Mexican army turned back by Pershing, or by the local militia. This is what a militia does. It is comprised of citizens who are always (on the ground) like you and me. All it needs are weapons, ammo, training, and intelligence, and the nation will be protected form enemies foreign and domestic.

  • Report this Comment On June 29, 2014, at 9:52 PM, jbear1961 wrote:

    i did a lot of looking for the truth about sandyhook it did not take place it was made up !!!!

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