Samsung Breaks the Silence on the Android

• Report this Comment On December 22, 2008, at 8:50 PM, yonnyb wrote:

  Well you are foolish, no doubt!

  How is Android refreshingly open? Google completely controls the android platform, no one else gets a vote!. The IP is owned by Google. If you want to commit to the codebase Goolge decides. The trademark is owned by Google. If you want to ship a phone and use the android symbol you have to sign an special secret agreement with Google and agree to a secret test kit. The Open Handset Alliance is not open! it is a closed club. if you don't believe me try and join it. The press has done as bad a job looking at Android as you did looking at George Bushes War Plans SHAME ON YOU!

• Report this Comment On December 22, 2008, at 10:17 PM, iasparky wrote:

  as opposed, perhaps, to the wide open Apple ecosystem?

• Report this Comment On December 22, 2008, at 11:47 PM, yonnyb wrote:

  nope, comparing it to Mobile OSGi /Java or Apache , Open source, with Open Governance where no one party controls the ecosystem. And with a Published and open management infrastructure in which any body can join or lead. This points out the 2 key requirements of ecosystem, its not just open source, it the open Goverence that manages the source and the community. Apple is not open in any sense, and they admit it! hooray for them! What bothers me is that Goolge is trying to make the industry believe that android is an open system when they have no intention for it to be, and that the press does not seem to do the research to ask the hard questions.

• Report this Comment On December 23, 2008, at 5:36 AM, TMFZahrim wrote:

  @yonnyb,

  Well, Android runs Java apps on a Linux platform, with freely available source code and SDK. Your Java apps have full access to any of the virtualized (and hence cross-hardware-implementations) hardware. It's about as close to FLOSS as you'll get without scaring away any and all of the service providers, and I think that qualifies as an "open" platform.

  OSGi has been around since 1999, and it took nine years tyo get the first application stack for it (thanks, Sprint and Sun). How many handsets do you see using that today? I rest my case.

  Anders

• Report this Comment On December 23, 2008, at 11:18 AM, yonnyb wrote:

  Anders

  I think you are changing the nature of the point I was making, I was not addressing the technology (although that would be an interesting topic). So to be clear my point was that because Google solely controls the platform it is not "Open" in the sense that google is trying to market it. To your other points Sprint launched the Titan platform on at least 5 different models. since google only runs on 1 model I guess that would make it 1/5 as successful and Titan has only been out 2 weeks. Another clarification to your points. Android does not run Java apps! it uses some of the java language to make source code and then compiles it to a totally different thing called delvik, which is in no way Java. NO existing Java applications can in any way run on this platform including the thousands of midlets, and the thousands of java servlets. So your point seems to be wrong. The osgi /java platform on the other hand runs current midlets and also runs servlets as well as integrating Javascript, flash and javaFX There really is no comparison between android and Titan/OSGi

  I humbly submit your case is wrong

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