Why China Hates the U.S. and What It Means for Your Portfolio

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It spent the past 30 years adopting the rules of capitalism. It transformed sleepy fishing villages into pulsating manufacturing metropolises. It opened its borders to multinational corporations. It became the world's factory. As a result, it built up nearly $2 trillion in foreign currency reserves, mostly in U.S. dollars.

After all that, we are threatening to wipe out the value of those reserves by inflating away the value of the dollar. China is not happy.

Don't raise your voice at me
If you had an investment portfolio over the past four or five years, maybe you can empathize with China. Watching the value of your savings evaporate is not a pleasant experience. Especially when you thought you were doing everything right.

So you might excuse Luo Ping, director-general of China Banking Regulatory Commission, for his outburst in February when he admitted, "We hate you guys … we know the dollar is going to depreciate, so we hate you guys, but there is nothing much we can do."

You brought this on yourself
Now, to be honest, China isn't really an innocent victim in this story. The phenomenal economic growth the country has seen over the past three decades was driven by astounding export growth, powered by cheap labor and, importantly, an artificially cheap currency.

By selling mountains of cheap goods to companies like Wal-Mart (NYSE: WMT) and Best Buy (NYSE: BBY), China accepted dollars by the truckload. Normally this would cause a domestic currency to appreciate as the manufacturers converted their dollars into yuan to pay workers and suppliers (and buy new cars and office furniture).

But if the yuan were to appreciate, China's exports would become less attractive, and the spectacular growth would stall. So China's government took steps, such as printing more money and instituting currency restrictions, to keep the yuan weak in relation to the dollar (and euro). So if the U.S. cranks up the printing press, devaluing the dollar, it not only reduces the value of China’s reserves, but it means China has to increase its efforts to keep its exports cheap -- hence China’s irritation.

Not completely helpless
Despite Luo Ping's apparent despair, there are some things China can do -- and has been doing -- to lighten its exposure to the potential weakening of the dollar. The government has been transforming dollars into hard assets by buying up now-cheap commodities like iron ore, copper, molybdenum, and oil to prepare for further expansion once the economy kicks up again.

Chinese companies have been in on the act, as well, some more successfully than others. The recent failure of Aluminum Corp. of China (NYSE: ACH) to acquire an 18% stake in minerals giant Rio Tinto (NYSE: RTP) is countered by China Minmetals' acquisition of the majority of OZ Minerals' assets.

China's major cash-rich state-owned oil companies, PetroChina (NYSE: PTR), Sinopec (NYSE: SNP), and CNOOC (NYSE: CEO), have been taking advantage of the drop in oil prices to acquire oil and natural gas assets around the world.

Looking inward for the way forward
While these acquisitions help position China for future growth, they can only use up so much of that $2 trillion. The long-term answer to China's problem is to wean itself off exports and its dependence upon foreign consumers, which requires the growth of domestic demand.

China is home to 1.3 billion consumers -- the largest single pool in the world. However, domestic consumption makes up less than 40% of China's GDP, compared to nearly 70% for the United States. If China wants to draw down its dramatic exposure to the dollar, the proportion of the economy derived from domestic spending will have to rise.

As the government increases domestic consumption, the companies that will benefit most will be those targeting Chinese consumers. But often, these companies are small and fly under the radar of most investors, or are viewed with skepticism because of concerns about Chinese regulations and reporting standards.

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  • Report this Comment On June 29, 2009, at 4:50 PM, madmilker wrote:

    how do you know they hate the US....they don't hate tat U. S.company with the star in the name....

    quote*Wal-Mart firmly believes in local procurement. We recognize that by purchasing quality products, we can generate more job opportunities, support local manufacturing and boost economic development. Over 95% of the merchandise in our stores in China is sourced locally. We have established partnerships with nearly 20,000 suppliers in China. *end quote!

    Now! if there be 182 country’s making items for the world to buy and they have only 5% of the pie in China…duh! This company makes the nice people of China support their currency(yuan) by keeping it in their country working for the people there…. but with the “yuan” going up in value and the US dollar going down…all the foreign items that the American consumer buys thinking it is cheap has went up in price.

    People…its all about the currency and to keep a currency strong you got to keep it floating around the country you live in so it can work for you. For the past 12 years all them US dollars are being shipped overseas to a foreign bank and with the American worker not making anything for the foreigner to buy the “we the people” have to turn to the “second” largest employer in America(Uncle Sam) to sell “we the people” debt in order to get all them dollars back!

    50 years ago a foreigner would had given their left nut for a US dollar or a Hershey’s chocolate bar and today the same foreigner has got Uncle Sam and the American consumer by both all the while Hershey is moving the chocolate factory to Mexico. Wake up! America and think “MADE IN AMERICA.”

    quote*"Considering that there are over 30,000 ships at sea this morning," writes James Carlton, director of the Williams College-Mystic Seaport Maritime Studies Program, in an e-mail, "the total number of organisms and species in this global 'bioflow' on the morning your readers read your piece could be staggering - billions of individuals, and thousands of species."

    Indeed, scientists have long considered ballast water the primary way invasive aquatic organisms are introduced. From the zebra mussel's arrival in the Great Lakes, to an American jellyfish severely disrupting Black Sea fisheries, the potential costs of accidental introduction of a species to new homes can be tremendous. Aquatic invasives cost the US $9 billion yearly, according to estimates by David Pimentel, professor emeritus of ecology and evolutionary biology at Cornell University in Ithaca, N.Y. Zebra and quagga mussels (a cousin to the zebra) alone cost the $1 billion annually.*end quote!

    tat is $9 billion a year in hidden taxes to all Americans...

    cheap ain't chic and it cost America............jobs!

  • Report this Comment On June 29, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Padre3210 wrote:

    WTF DID THAT GUY SAY????

  • Report this Comment On June 29, 2009, at 6:43 PM, ARJTurgot wrote:

    China has a long memory, and a not very nice experience with the west over the last two centuries, starting with the opium wars. The don't hate us, but neither are they bothered much by our suffering. And I suspect they can very well distribute that two trill, and are already doing so. 9 billion into PetroBras in the last few months, farm land in Africa and Asia in addition to minerals. They have no intention of waiting for us to inflate our currency, and there are many, many things they can do about it.

  • Report this Comment On June 29, 2009, at 7:20 PM, jbrt wrote:

    who taught them ? do you think that 16 ounce soda is worth what it cost either of the two to make ? " whatever the traffic will bear "

  • Report this Comment On June 29, 2009, at 7:28 PM, dbbfool63 wrote:

    This was a poorly written article imo, for one thing......I think it's been common sense for the last 30 years that we need to keep jobs in America and make more products.

    AS PRESIDENT OF A LOCAL UAW UNION IN MY TOWN, I WITNESSED FIRST HAND AT A CONVENTION IN NEW ORLEANS BACK IN 1998, JUST OVER 10 YEARS AGO AT THE CONVENTION CENTER FOR UNION LEADERS ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING OUR PEOPLE TO BUY AMERICAN PRODUCTS AND KEEPING JOBS HERE.

    WELL, I MUST SAY THAT WHEN ALMOST EVERY COMPANY THAT MADE PRODUCTS IN THE U.S. COULD FIT AND DISPLAY ALL THEIR PRODUCTS IN JUST THE CONVENTION CENTER, I UNDERSTOOD WHY MOST OF OUR JOBS WERE AT THE LOADING DOCKS AROUND AMERICA UNLOADING IMPORTED MERCHANDISE FOR AMERICANS TO BUY WHILE AMERICAN COMPANIES WERE CLOSING THEIR DOORS BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT COMPETE.

    We were given list of all these American companies who made their products here in the U.S. so that we could take back to our people to make copies and put one in every door in America possible.

    Americas biggest companies called the Big-3 based from Detroit headquarters to manufacturing plants across America which created some of the greatest employment opportunities until the greed set in on both sides and we were exporting a lot more jobs than automobiles. I always thought it was suppose to be the other way around.

    Then our government got really confused and the next thing you know, America some how figure out a way to get other JOBS EXPORTED as well and more FOREIGN PEOPLE & PRODUCTS IMPORTED.

    Without using or talking about the value of the American Dollar and the China Yuan, the above article was ( I think ) based on what I wrote as being the CORE PROBLEM that was one of the major issues that caused it all.

    We live in a new day of life where instead of finding the root of the problems and fixing it at that level so it does not keep growing, our government finds it much easier to just put a band aid or anything they can find to cover it up not being smart enough to realize that eventually that root will get bigger and grow out from under what ever was used to cover it up in the first place.

  • Report this Comment On June 29, 2009, at 7:41 PM, xetn wrote:

    You missed the big story, the inflation of the dollar. It very definitely causes not just China harm, but every one of our trading partners. And least we forget, it also hurts the American citizen, whose purchasing power is decreased by every single new dollar that gets created out of thin air by the FED and its puppets the fractional-reserve banks. To illustrate this reduction in purchasing power, the dollar has lost over 95% of its value since the creation of the FED in 1913.

    And the flip side of that coin is, while stock prices have gone up in most of that time, a considerable part of that price increase has been the result of price inflation of the dollar.

    And while your tax rates have mostly declined during that period of time, your income has increased, putting you into higher brackets and taking more of your income in taxes. (The loss of purchasing power is the hidden tax).

    The Chinese do not hate the US, they hate its policies. The US citizens should also hate the policies.

  • Report this Comment On June 29, 2009, at 7:57 PM, xetn wrote:

    dbbfool63:

    Some of the reasons why those jobs went overseas, is stupid union work rules, requiring business's to hire more people to get things done, and minimum wage laws, designed to aid union employees, while increasing the cost of all products to all consumers.

    Minimum wage laws not only increase everyone's costs, they actually prevent mostly poorly educated blacks and other ethnic people from getting jobs that employers cannot afford to pay minimum wage for. In a free market, all prices need to adjust to economic conditions, such as the current financial crisis, those prices include wage rates. This is one of the lessons from the great depression where Hoover browbeat business leaders into maintaining high wages which ultimately led to higher and higher unemployement rates, reaching 25% of the work force.

    If companies could freely complete in price/quality, then all of those jobs you bemoan going overseas, might just stay here. I am not suggesting that all of the problems are due to unions, only their restrictive work rules and high wage rates. Another big reason is government regulations which as of 2008 cost each man, woman and child in the US $3849. last year, not to mention higher tax rates.

  • Report this Comment On June 29, 2009, at 8:43 PM, MRBillsnutjob wrote:

    >dbbfool63:

    Some of the reasons why those jobs went overseas, is stupid union work rules, requiring business's to hire more people to get things done, and minimum wage laws, designed to aid union employees, while increasing the cost of all products to all consumers.

    Minimum wage laws not only increase everyone's costs, they actually prevent mostly poorly educated blacks and other ethnic people from getting jobs that employers cannot afford to pay minimum wage for. In a free market, all prices need to adjust to economic conditions, such as the current financial crisis, those prices include wage rates. This is one of the lessons from the great depression where Hoover browbeat business leaders into maintaining high wages which ultimately led to higher and higher unemployement rates, reaching 25% of the work force.

    If companies could freely complete in price/quality, then all of those jobs you bemoan going overseas, might just stay here. I am not suggesting that all of the problems are due to unions, only their restrictive work rules and high wage rates. Another big reason is government regulations which as of 2008 cost each man, woman and child in the US $3849. last

    year, not to mention higher tax rates.<

    The minimum wage doesn't even match poverty levels and how are these people suppose to buy health insurance pay rent buy food and clothing. The theses that the minimum wage is to high is flawed write down how much you would make in a week at minimum wage and then figure out what you would have to do with out. Now lets say that you are a single parent or partly disabled in need of special care now what. If we do not care for our fellows then we are not truly a government of the people for the people. Socially sound policy's does not weaken a country it lifts its people out of povertyand makes them more productive.

    Fool on with compassion

  • Report this Comment On June 29, 2009, at 11:20 PM, exseries7 wrote:

    "As the government increases domestic consumption..." There is no guarantee that this will happen, at least anytime soon. Most Chinese are savers rather than spenders, for three reasons: child college expenses, retirement, and most importantly, health care.

    As a resident of China, I talk to many Chinese who are skeptical of the goverments's stated intentions to provide universal healthcare, and they know that even young grads from the best universities are having trouble getting jobs. Combine these elements with the difficulty in changing an ingrained tradition (saving), and it will be very difficult to see China suddenly become a nation of spenders.

    As for the poster that mentioned that China has a long memory of western intrusions dating back to the Opium Wars, this victim mindset is something that the government want to them to adopt to unify China into a "them against us" philosophy. China was never colonized, and historically has suffered much less at the hands of western invaders than many countries, and has suffered more from Asian incursions and from battles of their own warlords.

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 2:56 AM, Fool wrote:

    Why is this issue not made mainstream again and again? I remember when "Buy American" was a popular mantra in the 1980's and somewhat in the 1990's, but the puplic spoke, voting with their pocketbooks/wallets by buying the cheapest consumer products in sight. If you confront your neighbour with the issue, he/she will often profess ignorance or state there is no alternative source, promise they are interested in helping out our economy, may try to "buy" from local sources and subsequently will go out and buy cheap again. It doesn't seem to matter so much about quality with the "rank and file" citizen when costs are an overriding concern. We appear to be hardwired for such action. I for one think the day China comes to the USA for an accounting will wake everyone up to our plight, but will it be too late?

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 6:17 AM, exseries7 wrote:

    Is that a British perspective on America, considering the way neighbor is spelled as "neighbour"?

    Regardless, you have some valid points. Until people buy American, especially with large consumer purchases and capital expenditures, there will always be a trade imbalance.

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 11:07 AM, enginear wrote:

    Should we all go out and buy more expensive products... and become an economic island in the world - we surely will not be exporting to the countries that would like to sell us their cheaper products! Do the words supply and demand sound familiar?

    The U.S. had a great run since the 1950's, but we have gotten a little complacent. We all expect to make a lot of money without getting educated, without innovating, without excelling. We all see it in the workplace... people whose motto is 'that's good enough' are making $50,000 a year while their Chinese (or any number of other countries) counterparts live on $5000. Adam Smith and his laws of supply and demand say that this situation will not last.

    We are (still) better educated, but we need to get back to the workplace with the idea that we want to do our best, we need to approach life asking what can I do to add value, not how soon can I retire.

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 11:15 AM, truthisntstupid wrote:

    Go ahead. Manufacture things here. Guess you still haven't learned. Someday maybe you will. The days of all you union types thinking you're entitled to live better than anyone else because "it only adds X amount to the price of the final product" are drawing to a close. LEARN it. The jig is up, buster.

    You're not doing it to me. I'm seasonally employed, make less than $9 an hour, and since returning to work March 1st have saved and invested over $2,000. Could I have done that buying YOUR stuff?

    My standard of living is rapidly improving. I won't give that up so some other guy can have full medical ( I don't), dental (I don't), compel his company to "take care" of him till the day he dies ( don't have that, either).

    It is your job to take care of yourself when Mommy & Daddy are done. Not some company that you expect can foist off the cost onto the rest of us.

    MY life is rapidly improving due to initiatives that I have taken. I will not pay more for union - made products made in America so that all the things I have and still am striving for can be handed to people who think they have some kind of "right" to them. Look around you. Look at what happened to the car companies. The jig is up.

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 11:22 AM, truthisntstupid wrote:

    Another thing. I'm not poor where I live. It doesn't take $50 an hour to live. Sorry. Doesn't take forty or even thirty. Obviously it doesn't take much money to live. It isn't how much you make. It's how much you spend.

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 11:22 AM, catoismymotor wrote:

    I blame this on too much lead used to print their money. That and the fact they are always hungry an hour after eating.

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 1:06 PM, slpmn wrote:

    If china doesn't hate us, perhaps they should. 2/3 of them are peasants living like its 1860, fertilizing their crops with their own feces, while the other 1/3 are factory workers living in overcrowded cities making next to nothing producing junk for rich Americans to buy.

  • Report this Comment On June 30, 2009, at 1:31 PM, digitalsean wrote:

    One of the very cleaver China Govt. Policies is the colonization of Africa. By sponsoring aid programs and filling these projects with Chinese companies and their families they can suddenly transform a small African Country into their next colony. Look at the number of Chinese citizens who are calling Tanzania, Kenya, and Nigeria home. Millions. Makes sense - 1.3 Billion people need a place to spread their wings.

  • Report this Comment On July 01, 2009, at 12:01 PM, RaulChapin wrote:

    "It isn't how much you make. It's how much you spend."

    Taken from zen philosophy, my uncle would go to a Walmart, fill his cart with the most eye catching things, all the stuff he wanted, when he was done his "Shopping", he would leave the cart inside the store, and walk out empty handed.

    It is so liberating to see how much stuff you DON'T need to live and be happy!

  • Report this Comment On July 01, 2009, at 2:43 PM, plange01 wrote:

    china not only hates the US but its far better run and making all the right moves.as the US sinks deeper into a depression china is moving ahead full speed...

  • Report this Comment On July 02, 2009, at 5:20 PM, plange01 wrote:

    with the US sinking deeper into a depression its china's time to shine and are they ever taking advantage of it.

  • Report this Comment On July 03, 2009, at 12:17 PM, IrvilleASargent wrote:

    China is still a Communist Dictatorship and the people of China have no voice in anything. Sometimes we forget this because we confuse Capitalism with Democracy.

    The economy of China is still controlled by the 8 or 9 old guys on the Proloteriet. The Chininese Supreme Court reports to the President and his people. So the also own the Justice System.

    We should have good relations with China. Since the day of the Flying Tigers we have been ready to help China against foes. But, that seems to be forgotten in its history. Good relations is two way street. The US will be even stronger than before if Obama does not distroy the Capitalistic System by adding more debt.

    Someone said in London Times: If Bin Ladin wants to distroy the US. He better hurry up because Obama is beating him to it. His spending must be stopped on all fronts. INcluding Heath Care and Cap and Tax.

  • Report this Comment On July 03, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Iluvitar wrote:

    I really can't feel any sympathy for American Unions you have been feeding off of the American Worker for years now and providing no useful service. With stupid slogans and plans like “Buy American” you are not worth the dues that hard working Americans pay for your representation. We are in a global economy it will never go back start educating yourselves or go the way of the Detroit auto workers.

  • Report this Comment On July 03, 2009, at 3:39 PM, snedunuri wrote:

    "If Bin Ladin wants to distroy the US. He better hurry up because Obama is beating him to it. ". I think you've got the wrong guy. You have one dude who spent 8 years driving this country into massive debt, invaded a soverign country, spent $1trillion doing it, deregulated us into a recession, ignored science, and wasted 8 years doing nothing about climate change. Then you have another guy who's been in office barely 6 months trying to fix at least some of that mess. And you have the gall to talk about debt.

  • Report this Comment On July 03, 2009, at 9:50 PM, deancurry wrote:

    America is in big trouble.

    We are going the way of the British Empire.

    We have military bases in 120 countries.

    We are the only rich country that doesn't have universal health care.

    30 times the murders per capita then Europe.

    A phony democratic government run by 2 parties of millionaires.

    Thinking that our government is better than other countries.

    Travel overseas before you make judgements about other countries,

    Wake up America!!

  • Report this Comment On July 03, 2009, at 10:10 PM, Tiger1421 wrote:

    I have been writing higher yuan lower US standard of living/more at poverty level for several years now. Who cares, only the people who have to pay more and drop below the poverty line. Government needs foreigners to buy US Treasury Notes to keep the government going. When China is finally forced to do something about nobody caring about their trillion plus investment in the USA and being forbidden to spend it on acquisitions, then wait and see the howling begin. China may well be a communist country, but in their elections, the difference between who they get to choose and USA id 1 (one) and sometimes that is eroded to 0. If you don't understand, ask and I will explain.

  • Report this Comment On July 03, 2009, at 10:28 PM, deancurry wrote:

    Tell me more.

  • Report this Comment On July 03, 2009, at 11:09 PM, Tiger1421 wrote:

    Sure Kerry OR Bush, Obama OR McCain. In each case, like it or not, there was in reality only one choice. A select bunch of people narrowed it down to the choice of one or either of each of these two for your President. We rarely have a choice as to the "who" is going to be President. I know, I know, Gore or Bush? But then tell me who would actually have been best. The man would would be trying to jump up higher to patch the hole above his head or the one trying to mend the hole in his head?

  • Report this Comment On July 03, 2009, at 11:11 PM, Tiger1421 wrote:

    Sure Kerry OR Bush, Obama OR McCain. In each case, like it or not, there was in reality only one choice. A select bunch of people narrowed it down to the choice of one or either of each of these two for your President. We rarely have a choice as to the "who" is going to be President. I know, I know, Gore or Bush? But then tell me who would actually have been best. The man who would be trying to jump up higher to patch the hole above his head or the one trying to mend the hole in his head?

  • Report this Comment On July 04, 2009, at 1:46 AM, foreversoldier wrote:

    The only reason I sign up is to say this:

    THAT KIND OF RACIST CRAP ARE YOU ALLOWING TO BE PUBLISHED HERE?

    "You brought this on yourself "??? WOW, I have no idea this publication had turned into a KKK party.

    Well, SHAME ON YOU for allowing indecent content like this one.

  • Report this Comment On July 04, 2009, at 2:59 PM, truthisntstupid wrote:

    Well, I just read the above post and looked back through the article and can't comprehend where the hell the racist remark is. I think perhaps you're "foreverdeluded."

  • Report this Comment On July 04, 2009, at 3:05 PM, foolishone926 wrote:

    China learned from us. True. As we learned from others. But to those in the unions, look over your shoulders, there are 1.3 Billion workers waiting to take your jobs, and willing to work at a fraction of your pay. And right next to the Chinese are the 1 Billion from India. Got us outnumbered 8-to-1. Cheap labor is cheap labor-- Why do you think America brought slaves here in the first place? We learned from the Egyptians 4,000 years ago. They built the pyramids with slaves from the places they conquered. Same with the Greeks, Romans, British Empire, ( India ), etc. Well we aren't allowed to conquer anymore and bring home slaves, ( Aw--Gee Whiz, we can't have any fun ). We have become more refined than our ancestors, now we have corporations who hire the High School kids, keep their pay low, keep them all part-time ( so they don't have to pay benefits ) and McDonalds made huge sums this way. Others, like Wal-Mart, use similar tactics. Landscapers, and many others--( not to pick on landscapers ), can you say illegal aliens with low pay? Anyway-- the only way to beat them, China and India, is to join them-- so we better get busy making babies, we need 2 Billion to catch up.

  • Report this Comment On July 05, 2009, at 8:02 AM, thisislabor wrote:

    why do we need 2 billion to catch up? i don't get that. we just need to lower the minimum wage to 2c. an hour like china....

  • Report this Comment On July 06, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Stellerjay wrote:

    The bottom line is: What are we going to do to get back on track? We solve nothing with name calling and playing the blame game. Our politicians are only mirroring our own personal greed and lack of moral fiber. If you are ready to go back to our earlier values then we can fix the problem. In 2010 show our politicians we are serious and throw our current crop out of office.

    If not, then China, India or someone else will fix it for us and we will have very little to say in the matter. The laws of Supply and Demand and Economics are still alive and well. Good day everyone.

  • Report this Comment On July 06, 2009, at 3:21 PM, mpendragon wrote:

    China is going to have serious water issues in the next few decades. The glaciers that feed their rivers in summer are going away and they are using water faster than the rate it's being replenished. It seems likely that China will have to limit their agricultural water usage.

    This could mean that the US, barring similar serious climate change problems of our own, is in a position to work off our debt with grain and soybeans.

  • Report this Comment On July 06, 2009, at 8:51 PM, maguro01 wrote:

    Why are people forgetting that a few years ago China set its currency about half value, then pegged it to the dollar. They also had an arcane tariff system limiting foreign ownership and heavily favoring exports. The tariff system has been modified but still favors exports. The currency has only appreciated a few percent against the dollar.

    The low value AND PEG mean that whatever we do doesn't matter. If currencies aren't free traded then nothing else is. Walmart became what it is today by arbitraging the Chinese government set yuan and the dollar. They knew what they were doing and "free trade" it's not.

    The Economist magazine in Sept '03 said that workers in Mexico made four times China's factory wages. China made development a zero sum game. The oxygen was sucked out of Mexico's development atmosphere and that's much of the reason we have so many new neighbors and we would do the same.

    For the last eight years the low prices here lulled the voters and the Bush government borrowed back the trade deficit to finance their wars, tax cuts, and bloated but oddly inefficient government. They took a dive in the trade wars though the voters trusted the government to mind the store. We've been living without market discipline on the national bar tab for a while and now Americans may make twice too much money. US companies have been given administration of skilled immigration to game and are undeveloping the US with subsidies to do it. It's more than just factories.

    This isn't 1919, or 1959 or 69. It's 2009 and we have to live in the present. Unions are a very small percentage of workers. Medical care and finance will take up 25% US GDP in a year or so. That's unsustainable and a result of Washington pay to play, not markets. Let's dump past ideological baggage and solve our problems while the US is still independent enough to do it.

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