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I've been saying for a while that I think a major market correction is likely to happen before too long. My reasoning is pretty simple: We may be seeing some early indications of "economic recovery," but we're still a long way from a new boom. Consider the following:

  • Unemployment is still really high -- 9.8% at the end of September, and I doubt that's changed much in recent weeks.
  • Consumer spending, which has seen a bit of a rebound in recent months, is likely to fade as the effects of the stimulus recede, thanks to that high unemployment rate. Folks (well, most folks) don't tend to buy big-screen TVs and new cars when one of the household's primary earners is out of a job. Low spending means lower sales, which means less manufacturing, which means fewer jobs, which means lower spending ... you get the drift. But it also means ...
  • Lower corporate earnings. Many stocks are trading at big multiples relative to realistic estimates of their near-future earnings. History teaches that big multiples aren't sustainable.

Of course, just because a correction seems warranted doesn't mean it's imminent. As we've all hopefully learned over the past decade or so, the stock market can stay irrational for much longer than we can stay solvent.

But that said, I want to toss out a couple of questions: Is there any way to tell when a correction is imminent? And if there is, what, if anything, should we do as investors when we see it coming?

Can we tell when a big market reversal is coming?
Remember the dark days of early March? When it seemed like every single voice in the media was predicting imminent capital-D Doom for the American economy?

I remember how overwhelming it felt, how certain everyone was, how awful the fear felt. And then I remember thinking: Maybe this is the bottom. If not, it's close enough. I should buy some of the stocks I've been considering right now.

It was the bottom (plus or minus a few days), I did buy, and I made a lot of money. But my point isn't to brag, it's to say this: That was a great example of what happens when market trends change. When everybody is speaking with one voice, it's very possible that they're all about to be wrong.

So when will the next big plunge happen? I can't say for sure, but I'll say this: When the last of the curmudgeons start to get bullish, when the gloom and doom on most of the financial blogs gives way to optimism, when guys like me start writing articles about how good things are going ... look out below.

So what? Market timing is a fool's (not Fool's) game.
Market timing is not something to build your investing strategy around; last I checked, predicting the future wasn't exactly a reliable science. But personally, I find it useful to keep an eye on stuff like this because it helps me think about when to buy (or sell) stocks that I'm inclined to buy (or sell) anyway.

Think it doesn't matter much? Here are some stocks that were good buys in early January, but great buys in early March:

Stock

Value of $10,000
Invested on 1/2/09

Value of $10,000
Invested on 3/9/09

Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL)

$22,312

$24,363

BP (NYSE: BP)

$12,092

$15,870

Costco (Nasdaq: COST)

$10,960

$15,155

Diageo (NYSE: DEO)

$11,320

$15,531

Ford Motor (NYSE: F)

$30,366

$42,931

Johnson & Johnson (NYSE: JNJ)

$10,161

$13,114

Novartis (NYSE: NVS)

$10,753

$14,770

Source: Yahoo! Finance.
Calculations assume investment on the date specified through market close on Oct. 26 and include reinvestment of dividends, if any.

See what I mean? Nobody would tell you that buying Apple or Ford on Jan. 2 was a bad move. It wasn't; it was a very good move. But buying on March 9, when the S&P 500 hit bottom, would have been even better.

Yeah, but ...
Of course, that's a fantastic example of hindsight. Expecting to buy at the absolute low -- or sell at the absolute peak -- is unrealistic. And this is important: The very good trade that you actually make is better than the great one that never quite comes along. You'll find that stocks can (and often do) continue to go roaring off in the wrong direction while you're waiting for the perfect time to buy or sell. And also, there are always values to be had no matter what Mr. Market is doing, and when you find those, the larger market's dynamics should be a minor consideration at best.

The upshot
Still, here's the point I want you to take away: When you're considering any sort of changes to your long-haul portfolio, it can be worth taking Mr. Market's near-term dynamics into account. Always make your decisions to buy (and sell) stocks on fundamentals, not market moves, because that's what drives prices in the long run.

But when you're ready to make that trade, stopping to think about the larger forces at work can sometimes make the difference between a very good investment -- and a great one.

What do you think? Is it bad for a Fool to even talk about market timing? Scroll down to leave a comment and let me know.

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  • Report this Comment On October 27, 2009, at 11:55 AM, hrse wrote:

    Not everyone was negitive in March. There were two cheerleaders for stocks that started their cheers ni Feb or so: WEB and BHO.

  • Report this Comment On October 27, 2009, at 12:14 PM, mollyxann wrote:

    ALL repeat ALL trades, buys and sells are market timed! How could it be otherwise? God, you don't wake up one morning and say I think I'll buy or sell a stock without looking at the stock's history or comments on it's future, and tracking it for a while. The other thing that you had better listen to is all the BS coming out of Washington. EDM

  • Report this Comment On October 27, 2009, at 12:15 PM, sofpan wrote:

    Very nice article.

    Generaly I agree. But I disagree on this: "Always make your decisions to buy (and sell) stocks on fundamentals, not market moves, because that's what drives prices in the long run."

    I believe that we must chose stocks based on fundamentals. But when we believe that there is a stong possibility to have a strong decline in prices above us, then why not to sell?

    I believe that from March, markets went too much high, too soon. The valuations became high (high P/Es, low dividend yields etc), in some cases, extremely high.

    Yes, I have chose stocks with relatively low P/Es (like 14x in companies withg great growth potential in the next 10 to 20 years). But who can believe that if the market will decline, my stocks will not?

    So, in the last 2 - 3 days, I sold my major stock positions to realise my profits of the last months.

    I give strong possibilities for a big decline in stock markets. I even see a large crash.

    Am I sure about that? No. But the markets are not acting with common sense.

  • Report this Comment On October 27, 2009, at 1:22 PM, tgauchat wrote:

    Very good point, @sofpan.

    There is a BIG difference between a good company and a good stock (and between a good economy and ...).

  • Report this Comment On October 27, 2009, at 8:15 PM, stan8331 wrote:

    I think it makes sense to take valuation and market direction into account when making stock purchases, so long as you're basing those purchases on the business fundamentals.

    When valuations start to look high and you suspect a correction could be coming (usually at a point when virtually everyone has become bullish), there's nothing wrong with taking incremental profits and paring back positions. Likewise, when fear runs rampant and nobody thinks stocks will ever go up again, it's smart to buy more than usual and allow your percentage of cash to drop below the normal level you carry.

    What I don't think makes sense whatsoever is to make massive bets in ANY direction. Making an all-or-nothing bet in the market is playing Russian roulette with your financial future. You might get away with it, you might even make a huge profit. But the risk of financial ruin just isn't worth it.

    There may be someone out there who is so brilliant that they can predict every move of the market with great precison - what I know for certain is I'm not that person, and that very, very few - if any - of those people actually exist. Going all-in OR all-out at any given point in time eliminates all your options from that point forward, if any part of your analysis happens to be incorrect in some way.

    All the folks who were fully invested in August 2008 AND all those who stayed in cash in March 2009 are now fervently hoping for another crash, to give them another chance to buy at fire-sale prices. But let's say we do have another crash and by the end of the year the S&P is down to 600. If you are sitting all in cash at that time, what will you do? Fear will be just as rampant at that point as it was in March 2009, and uncertainty as to what the market will do from there will be just as great. If you fail to buy, waiting for the REAL crash, and the market turns up again and never looks back, you'll have blown your second chance for incredible gains. If you do buy in and we then actually HAVE the real crash that takes us into a new Great Depression, you could easily take a massive beating and be powerless to take advantage of the deeply distressed prices we would then see.

    Unless you're a savant who never misses in predicting the direction, amplitude AND timing of the market's movements, you are very likely to lose your shirt with an all-in or all-out investment strategy. My preference is to invest a little more when I think I see cheap deals and a little less when I think deals are looking expensive, secure in the knowledge that even if I'm totally wrong and the market fails to behave as I anticipate, my financial health won't be destroyed.

  • Report this Comment On October 28, 2009, at 12:18 AM, PsycheDaddy wrote:

    Your right. I go by my gut feeling and right now it doesn't feel so good. Housing and cars are down. Unemployment and foreclosures are up. Looks like a recession to me and things everywhere are overpriced. Every time I go to buy something, the price has gone up. It's time for a crash.

  • Report this Comment On October 28, 2009, at 12:52 AM, mountain8 wrote:

    Housing prices are increasing and have for a bit now.

  • Report this Comment On October 28, 2009, at 12:58 AM, mountain8 wrote:

    Here's market timing in action:

    Find a good companies, MF is a good place to start but not end. Good indicators, debt level, insider ownership, solid performance over time. etc.

    Research a good company from your list of part I.

    Research another good company from your list of part I.

    Research several good companies from...

    After you have researched, recheck your notes and figures.

    Eliminate the companies who didn't meet your approval.

    Decide to invest in a company.

    Now think about timing. Do you wait for a pullback? Is it ballooning? Do you want to ride it up? Do you think the economy is coming around? Then you can spend the rest of your time wondering whether to buy today or tomorrow, then in the morning or afternoon. Then buy and live with your decision.

  • Report this Comment On October 29, 2009, at 9:31 AM, sofpan wrote:

    Fundamentals is not an investment panakeia.

    The trends (technical analysis) is also, not an investment panakeia.

    But maybe, there is an investment panakeia in the combination of fundamentals, trends and contrarian theory.

    The fundamentals for the right choises, the contrarian theory for finding the right entrance and exit points and trends for riding them (ride them for a while, not for ever) and miximizing profits.

    It is important to have the experience or wisdom, to realise when is the time to abandon trend and act contrarian.

  • Report this Comment On October 29, 2009, at 9:37 AM, sofpan wrote:

    Fundamentals also help us to understand when we are riding a trend, to realise the exaggeration. If we realise an exaggeration, then it is time to abandon the trend and be contrarian.

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