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It is not every day that a financial writer profiles a company and then, two days later, has the opportunity to speak with the company's CEO. That, however, is exactly what happened in regard to my recent Fool article, "Is Nordic American Your Friend?"

On Thursday morning, I spoke by phone with Mr. Herbjorn Hansson, CEO and Chairman of Nordic American Tanker (NYSE: NAT), regarding key insights on his company's performance. Mr. Hansson did not dispute my prior article's accounting of Nordic's stock volatility, numerous share offerings, or annual changes in financial performance. He did, however, contend that certain references to dilution of the share base could have been more accurately described as an increase in share count.

Foolish readers, before I restate figures in the manner that Mr. Hansson prefers, let's be clear, when a company issues new shares, the result, by any hard and fast measure, is shareholder dilution, which is to say that each new share represents a reduction in proportional ownership of the company. However, if the proceeds from the newly issued shares are successfully invested by the company in such a manner that the financial return per share increases, investors are compensated for their decreased ownership stake by higher profits. Owning less, in essence, buys more.

Such an outcome, of course, may never materialize. Or it could just take an awfully long time, as is likely to be the case with the government-backstop-type dilution suffered by shareholders of Wells Fargo (NYSE: WFC), Morgan Stanley (NYSE: MS), Citigroup (NYSE: C), and Bank of America (NYSE: BAC).

OK, with that small matter cleared up, I gladly update the language in the chart below.

 

2004

2005

2006

2007

2008*

Share Increase

30%

27.4%

54.1%

11.4%

14.7%

EPS change

40.1%

(25.2%)

3.6%

(50.3%)

100%

Dividend change

58.7%

(13%)

39.1%

(34.9%)

28.3%

* EPS and dividend numbers are year over year. 2008 EPS results include the first three quarters only.

Looking at 2004 and 2008, the increase in share count was well outpaced by EPS and dividend growth: the share offerings were well worth it. The in-between years of 2005-2007, on the other hand, did not work out so well for shareholders. In this case, dilution, in every sense of the word, is very much the correct term.

The view from Norway
Reaching well beyond the semantic, Mr. Hansson offered a number of alternative perspectives on what he referred to as his company's operational and managerial excellence. Allow me to preface the following sampling of Mr. Hansson's observations with the statement that he made at the start of our conversation: "We are a very special company with a very special operating model."

  1. If an investor wants exposure to the Suezmax spot market, Nordic American is the stock to own, underscored by the fact that NAT has outperformed 60 competitors on the basis of 52-week change in share price.
  2. Earnings per share, in the case of a large dividend payer such as Nordic American, should not be the focus of an investment thesis; rather, investors should look to the dividend history. Accordingly, return on equity, since it is based on income, is also of little value.
  3. Given that Nordic American pays out all earnings as dividends, a growth model that relies on retained earnings is not right. Rather, Nordic American will continue to go to the capital markets.
  4. Ship acquisitions have been accretive to earnings.
  5. Over time, the spot market trend is upward.
  6. From Jan. 1, 2004, when the stock closed at $15.20, to the present, the annualized return, accounting for reinvested dividends, is 37%.

Furthermore, Mr. Hansson opined that it is not so easy for a company to issue shares in the current macro environment, yet Nordic was able to do so, as announced after Wednesday's market close.

And the Foolish view
I do not begrudge Mr. Hansson's company any of its achievements. For certain, over the past year, I'd rather have been invested in Nordic American than Navios Maritime (NYSE: NM) or Excel Maritime (NYSE: EXM), both of which have seen their shares whither. But I do need to make a couple of points.

The fact that ship acquisitions have been accretive to earnings is not the same as share offerings being accretive to earnings. As stated in company releases, the proceeds from share offerings have been used not just to purchase additional tankers but also to pay down debt and to fund general operations.

Regarding Mr. Hansson's eagerness to focus on dividends, it is true that in down years, the drop in dividends has been less severe than the hit to earnings, which does augur for the company's historical ability to finance the dividend beyond cash provided by operations. On the other hand, the 2008 dividend of $4.89 per share was virtually unchanged from the 2004 dividend of $4.84. Moreover, of the past five years, the 2006 dividend is the highest by a margin of about a buck. Hey, this is the spot market and anything can happen, but so far, I think the company's growth initiatives have grown the dividend, well, inconsistently at best.

At the close of our phone conversation, Mr. Hansson wrapped things up for me with the energy of a pep squad: "Your article asked if Nordic American is your friend -- I say 'YES!'"

Fools, what I want to know is, are you accepting Mr. Hansson's friend request? The CAPS boards are waiting.

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Fool contributor Mike Pienciak has been known to get seasick. He does not own shares in any company mentioned. Bank of America is a Motley Fool Income Investor pick. The Fool is investors writing for investors.

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  • Report this Comment On January 09, 2009, at 5:37 PM, goatsnuff wrote:

    Most CEO's would have ducked you after you wrote a somewhat critical artical with that title. Good for him granting the interview. I put my money on a honest man. I'll stay with him.

  • Report this Comment On January 09, 2009, at 6:43 PM, sandintoes wrote:

    Humm...didn't see it mentioned that MP requested an interview goatsnuff.

  • Report this Comment On January 09, 2009, at 6:58 PM, goatsnuff wrote:

    Humm.....Well if he didn't and Mr. Hansson contacted MP to see if he would like an interview would that be a bad thing sandintoes? Either way good on the CEO. Humm....

  • Report this Comment On January 09, 2009, at 7:02 PM, HallShadow wrote:

    Much respect to Mr. Hansson. The man's integrity is pretty clear.

  • Report this Comment On January 09, 2009, at 7:26 PM, goatsnuff wrote:

    Ya for sure, hallshadow.

  • Report this Comment On January 09, 2009, at 11:14 PM, 451canuck wrote:

    The author's whole point about dilution doesn't really matter. If you look back to 2004 at the share offerings, they were used to buy more ships almost dollar for dollar. ($850M spent on ships, $30M to pay down debt since $30M vs $885M raised in share offerings). The new shares don't dilute my dividends because even though there are more shares outstanding, there are also more ships contributing to cash flow. The dividends paid to shareholders are from operating cash flow, not from any proceeds of share offerings as the author suggests.

    Also one could argue that the EPS growth & dividend analysis the author cites above is meaningless because EPS & dividend growth are influenced by the spot market rates more than anything else.

    The reason the CEO focuses on dividends is that this is not a growth company, its a cash cow. I like this company because it puts cash into my pocket every quarter (my dividend is up at 17% annually at my cost).

  • Report this Comment On January 10, 2009, at 12:30 AM, TMFGlide wrote:

    For those who are interested, Mr. Hansson requested the conversation. 451canuck: I'm glad that this has been a good investment for you, and I hope that it continues to be. I replied to your comment on the previous article regarding OCF and Dividends Paid.

    -MP

  • Report this Comment On January 10, 2009, at 10:22 AM, goatsnuff wrote:

    Speaks well for Mr Hansson. This is typical of his approach. He is totally accessable to everyone and upfront with anyone who has dealt with him. MP stated this was a very unusual opportunity to speak to a CEO after writing his artical. Unusuall indeed, most CEO's would have just arogantly blown it off or hide under the table and not bothered to contact him or refused to talk to him if he contacted them. Mr. Hansson stepped up to the plate to defend his co as a good CEO should do. I like him and his co.

  • Report this Comment On January 11, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Hohum777 wrote:

    At the end of the day, Mr Hansson's last point

    <i>6. From Jan. 1, 2004, when the stock closed at $15.20, to the present, the annualized return, accounting for reinvested dividends, is 37%. </i>

    really sticks out.

    Whine about dilution if one wants to, but I will take annualized 37% any day of the week, and 3 times

    on Sundays

  • Report this Comment On January 12, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Seano67 wrote:

    Thanks for writing this article. NAT has most certainly been my friend, and will continue to be so. Unless something were to dramatically change, I plan on holding onto this baby for years and years to come.

  • Report this Comment On January 13, 2009, at 4:52 PM, revphilco wrote:

    Our ministry has owned this company for 3 years. Our then (no longer) broker sold it to us @ $48 per share then tried to get us to sell @ $30.

    Instead we bought @ $30 and $33 and my Board is delighted with the income, even though it's up & down. Never less than 10% even on the $48's.

    For income requirements it's certainly better than CD's, savings or many other accounts.

    And oil and the need to ship it is not going away.

    We pray for the company and its leaders.

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