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The Biggest Market Opportunity: Sirius XM?

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During any given week, Sirius XM Radio (Nasdaq: SIRI  ) is among the most actively traded stocks in the country on a share volume basis.

Its allure is obvious. Satellite-radio receivers are common features in new cars, and Sirius XM has cornered the market with last year's merger. The stock also trades for less than a buck, and it's been a real scorcher this year, giving the investment more than mere speculative buzz.

The company has suffered two sequential quarters of subscription declines, but few investors expect that downtrend to continue if the economy -- especially the automotive sector -- improves. Either way, Sirius XM still caters to 18.4 million subscribers. That's an impressive number of people paying for a medium that was completely free a decade ago.

In assessing Sirius XM's market opportunity, it's important to assess its potential downsides and upsides. Let's tackle the thorny upside first.

The ceiling
Sirius XM didn't have to sell its soul to the devil to survive February's near-death experience, but it did hand over 40% of the company to Liberty Capital (Nasdaq: LCAPA  ) . Those 12.5 million preferred shares issued can be converted to nearly 2.6 billion shares. When you tack that on to the 3.9 billion shares outstanding at the end of the second quarter, you get 6.5 billion shares.

So what's the realistic upside here? Optimists may like to offer up a lofty price -- like $10 -- but then they find the "on" button on their calculators. At the $10 price point, Sirius XM would command a $65 billion market cap. That's before you tack on any more shares the company might print over the coming years, not to mention today's roughly $3 billion in debt.

Wishing that Sirius XM will one day be worth $65 billion in market cap -- or $68 billion in enterprise value -- doesn't make it so.

DirecTV (NYSE: DTV  ) is a fair proxy. It's profitable, as Sirius XM should be by the end of next year, and it has 24.2 million satellite television subscribers, which could be a realistic peak user base for satellite radio under rosier circumstances. However, DirecTV commands a market cap of just $26 billion -- or $29 billion in enterprise value, once you tack on its long-term debt.

This would make a sticker price of $5 the next feasible perch for each share of Sirius XM, but there's another humbling distinction here. The average DirecTV user is paying $83.16 a month, compared to a mere $10.66 per user for Sirius XM.

I believe Sirius XM averages will inch higher. The company recently introduced music royalties and online streaming fees. The Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL  ) iPhone app will encourage smartphone owners to pay $3 more a month over their regular subscriptions, and backseat video and GPS offerings will also bump up the company's revenue. However, it's hard to fathom average revenue per user topping $20 a month for premium radio. Since that's less than a quarter of DirecTV's take, it whittles down the company's stock ceiling to a sobering $1.25 a share.

The outlook does get better, though. DirecTV has to pay for its channels, while Sirius XM owns a lot of its content and has a say on the rest. As its platform evolves, it will be able to sell more digital downloads, and even sponsored products. Future models of interactive receivers should allow listeners to engage, vote, and shop. None of that will make Sirius XM an aural Amazon.com (Nasdaq: AMZN  ) , but the promise should be enough to justify jacking up the target price to $1.75 or $2 in a few years -- well ahead of where the stock finds itself today.

The floor
The stock is unlikely to return to the nickel-a-share price at which it bottomed out back in February. Its subscriber base may have waned -- during the same six months that leisure subscription services DirecTV and Netflix (Nasdaq: NFLX  ) grew -- but that should stabilize with the improving auto market. Then again, other entertainment services, including DISH Network (Nasdaq: DISH  ) , have shed subscribers.

Sirius XM has also been revising its adjusted operating income targets higher, making it more than likely to cover its debt interest and other obligations.

So where's the bottom? The out-of-favor yet profitable DISH is trading at 0.7 times trailing sales, a little more than half of DirecTV's multiple. Analysts see Sirius XM generating $2.5 billion in revenue this year, and $2.7 billion next year. If we apply the DISH multiple -- both companies have similar debt loads, so we're basing this on market cap -- Sirius XM would be valued at $0.30 a share.

Since Sirius XM has healthier catalysts than DISH, this doesn't mean that Sirius XM should be valued at $0.30 a share. But it's a reasonable bottom, as long as Sirius XM remains on its path toward generating positive cash flow.

In conclusion
Is Sirius XM's the market's biggest opportunity? No. The floor is closer than bears suspect, and the ceiling isn't as high as bulls would expect. Trading will remain volatile on a daily basis, but as a result of the bloated share count, the stock is unlikely to shed half of its value -- or double over the next year.

Sirius XM is safer -- yet unfortunately, more upside-constrained -- than Mr. Market thinks.

I've shown you my calculations. Where do you peg Sirius XM's upside and downside potential? Let me know in the comments area below.

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  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 4:35 PM, JRSmithman wrote:

    In conclusion

    Is Sirius XM's the market's biggest opportunity? No. The floor is closer than bears suspect, and the ceiling isn't as high as bulls would expect. Trading will remain volatile on a daily basis, but as a result of the bloated share count, the stock is unlikely to shed half of its value -- or double over the next year.

    Ok Rick you are an idiot this has already increased by 500% since Feb so what you are saying this will get to say .70 and then just drop off a cliff. This does not have to get to 1.40 if you are saying it wont double within the next year all it has to do is reach a Dollar and that is less than double and with the 3rd QTR report coming out with more than increased subs you dont know what you are talking about / Highly unlikely, but I do say this though in about a Years time this website will not double as well when it comes to readers so I guess we are even. Since it has the same commentaries that show up here everytime you spew trash and untruths.

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 4:46 PM, geoworld wrote:

    Wow JR, you must not have many, if any successful relationships. You even gut your own arguement with your, "same commentaries" quip!

    By the way, your math is poor.

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 4:46 PM, wheresthelove wrote:

    In other words, you reiterated everything that we already know. We need real news - this is simply regurgitated speculation. Sirius-XM is not doing all they can to retain subscribers. They over-billed me $23. I requested rectification of the $23, so I can pay for another year’s subscription; however, they denied my request. I do not understand why they would turn down $156 of good money compared to $23 that I refuse to pay based on sheer principal. Does anyone understand the logic?

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 4:47 PM, SiriLover wrote:

    Rick I agree with you that SIRI is not the biggest market opportunity. Can you tell us what stock is "The Biggest Market Opportunity"?

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 4:47 PM, JPS007 wrote:

    No facts in this article. Filled with bias and unsubstantiated assumptions.

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 5:42 PM, RAF22 wrote:

    The market is now anticipating a turnaround for Sirius XM based upon the resurgent auto industry and significant developments in new wireless/internet applications and devices that will benefit revenues for this company far into the future. Technical projections based upon recently completed formations indicate potential toward .90 to 1.00 by yearend; toward 1.25 to 1.50 over the next six months to one year; and toward 4.00 over the next two years, representing a 50% retracement of the declines from December '05 through the lows this past February. These are realistic projections - even within the comments of the article above - and they indicate substantial upside potential still remains from current levels. Risk/reward clearly favors holding long positions at this time and shorts are likely to view each term pullback as an opportunity to cover positions and reduce exposure to further losses as SIRI sustains upside momentum into the 3rd and 4th Qtr releases (due in November and February).

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 6:01 PM, stonebusted wrote:

    My experiance has taught that unless you use a gun long term gains are shadowed by large loss. I'm long on Sirus. Risk reward to me is acceptable.

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Macpherson02 wrote:

    Sirius is purely a speculation, not an investment. Hope no one is betting their retirement on it. I wouldn't call the article biased, because the fundamentals don't support the stock. It's all based on the hope for growth (and maybe one day, they'll actually turn a profit. you know, make money instead of losing it consistently)

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 7:59 PM, JWILLI44 wrote:

    Is Sirius XM's the market's biggest opportunity? No..

    What a bold statement!! Please, tell me the biggest market opportunity so I can make a lot of money.

    P.S. Tell me before the stock goes up big...not after....

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 8:04 PM, goforitrandy wrote:

    WOW does this fool live on planet earth... Because the last time I looked we are in one of the most volital economies in over 60 years... The bottom line is SIRI is so undervalued right now that it's bordering on stupidity to think SIRI doesn't have a snowball chance in hell of doubling for another 2 years.

    What are you smoking? Because your brain is fried.

    SIRI stock went up 50% in one week last month in Aug/2009... Hello,,,, is anybody home in the FOOL houshold... Even Pir One (PIR) closed today at $3.71

    and they reported a loss in their earning report today and they still went up .61 cents today... Back in March of this year Pier One was only .12 cents per share... And they too have a ton of debt just like SIRI and they too are just now showing some profits for a long time just like SIRI BUT SIRI has been beat down by the media and short sellers all year long...

    In order for SIRI to double, all it has to do is hit $1.32

    And considering that SIRI has gone up as much as a 1,000% since it's low of .5 cents you have to give

    SIRIUS some credit for getting themselves out of the Grand Canon of pits that almost brought them to bankruptcy... BUT,,, They avoided bankruptcy and aliened themselves with Liberty Media I.E. Direct TV

    It doesn't take a rocket scientest to see the unlimitted possibilities to bundle SIRIUS XM with Direct TV subscribers at some point which would give SIRI a huge amount of new subscribers... Why else would John Malone buy a 40% interest in SIRI because he could have allowed SIRI to go bankrupt earlier this year and picked up SIRIUS for pennies on the dollar compared to what he paid ($500 million... )BUT he didn't... He sees the value in Sirius XM just like I do...

    Also the biggest thing in tech right now that is driving the markets today is Apples iPhone which oh yeah SIRIUS XM can now broadcast on every iPhone that's ever sold... Hello,,, if you thought the iPod was a huge success wait till you see how big the iPhone becomes when everyone and his brother has one, and oh by the way you can now charge your iPhone on a Sirius Xm Sky Dock and listen to SIRIUS Xm Radio at home right now as we speak while your charging up your iPhone...

    Here's the bottom line,

    SIRI used to be the #1 shorted stock earlier this year.

    Now they don't even show up on the list of shorted stocks because all those people who were shorting SIRI are no longer shorting SIRI...

    2nd , The stock market isn't all about the #'s...

    A lot of what is going on today is about perception.

    Stocks that were pounded into the ground have come back over the last few months for example:

    Fanny May (FNM) .30 in Mar/2009 $2.14 Aug/2009

    BlockBuster (BBI) .22 in Mar/2009 $1.60 Sep/2009

    Kerx Bio (KERX .12 in Mar/2009 $2.37 Sep/2009

    Rite Aid (Rad ) .21 in Mar/2009 $2.38 Sep/2009

    Cell (CTIC) .05 in Mar/2009 $2.23 Sep/2009

    Vonage (VG) .31 in Mar/2009 $2.63 Sep/2009

    Pier One (PIR) .12 in Mar/2009 $3.71 Sep/2009

    And these stocks all have terible balance sheets just like SIRI...

    Now if you want to look like a total moron FOOL keep coming out with your crap on SIRI because I love using your blogs for toilet paper when I run out...

    SIRI will hit a $1 this year and keep on going even though you guy's at Motley Fool keep writing stuff to try and beat down the stock...

    The facts are facts... and you guy's just don't get it...

    SIRIUS XM is gonna hit $1 to $2 in a matter of weeks and people like me who have 35,000 shares

    of SIRI are gonna be laying down under a palm tree sucking down my favorite beverage looking at all the hot girls on the beach when your at work writing the latest B.S. about who you can't believe how SIRI got to $1.32 which is double what SIRI is today...

    AND you guy's think it's gonna take 2 years for SIRI to double... Yeah if I listened to you guy's all this year I wouldn't have made one penny on SIRI but so far I have made well over $18,000 and change so far this year just on my SIRI stock in 2009 without any short selling... And now I bought another 35,000 shares at the current price and I know without question I'm gonna make another $20,000 plus in the next few weeks when SIRI goes over a $1...

    So Keep printing your doomsday crap about SIRI

    because I'm running out of toilet paper...

    I love SIRIUS XM and I'm making money listening to

    real media on my SIRIUS XM RECIEVER and making money from SIRI stock...

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 8:39 PM, bashersuit wrote:

    Biggest Market Opportunity??

    I have 3

    1,, ETFC Goldman Sachs upgrades E*Trade from Neutral to Buy

    2,, FBR Capital uped their price target on E*Trade

    3,, Citigroup upgraded E*Trade Financial from Hold to Buy

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 8:40 PM, bashersuit wrote:

    Biggest Market Opportunity??

    ETFC

    I have 3 reasons

    1,, Goldman Sachs upgrades E*Trade from Neutral to Buy

    2,, FBR Capital uped their price target on E*Trade

    3,, Citigroup upgraded E*Trade Financial from Hold to Buy

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 8:51 PM, BigVincent wrote:

    Rick sirius XM already generates a whopping $2.9 billion a year. Your just accounting cost after acquisition. It doesn't work like that. Upside is that with the new royalty fee in place sirius XM will be close to generating $3.2 billion. Take into effect that interest and the $3 billion the company has is stretched all the way until 2014 we are looking at a company that will go cash flow positive middle of next year.

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 9:07 PM, king4life wrote:

    SIRI investors that harasses you and Jim Cramer would like a target of $5 and would settle for $3 and move on in life! That fact is that Short sellers and a Goldman Sachs analyst brought down SIRI to the point that it could not issue stock to pay the debt.

    Cramer as a former GS employee gets it but won't say it. When you admit it, you would be a cult hero.

    SIRI has the ability to lower it's costs. You need to review Mel's charts to get those cost targets.

    The comparable subscriber services don't have that ability and they have more direct competition.

    SIRI will be over $1 in 4 months. Start there.

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 9:09 PM, doctorex wrote:

    DOCTOREX SPEAKS:

    sirius was invented because intelligent people hate advertising and will pay to avoid it. this is approx. 20% of the population, including most of the people with any money.

    per the cc, long term takeup rate of siri promotional subs is higher than this, at 44%. even if this falls to 20%, per the above, that implies 50m siri target vehicles, or 20% of the vehicle population of about 250m vehicles. sub. numbers at this level were discussed at the cc on august 6.

    monthly revenue per sub medium term about $15/month. 50m subs then implies monthly revenue $750m/month annual $9b/year.

    expenses are declining because of the merger. siri is a fixed-cost enterprise (the last subscribers are cost-free because the satellites are up there one way or the other.) anticipate total expenses about the same as current, or about $200m/month, including finance charges and royalties.

    therefore, revenue $9b annual, expenses $2.4b annual, profit $6.6b annual.

    apply p.e. certainly 30 is o.k. for such a healthy enterprise.

    enterprise value $6.6b x 30 or $200b approx.

    divide by 6 billion shares (per liberty deal)

    SIRI SHARE PRICE $33 per share.

    BUY BUY BUY.

    doctorex has spoken.

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 9:35 PM, BigVincent wrote:

    Rick forgot to account for advertising sales, that happen on the non music channels.

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 9:44 PM, RAF22 wrote:

    Some of the greatest postings I have seen yet!

    SIRI will turn all of the doubters into roadkill!

  • Report this Comment On September 21, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Kazooskibum wrote:

    Where is Siridoom ? Too much logic here without him.

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 12:24 AM, dstnewman wrote:

    Rick, Rick, Rick... Where do I start? Even when you are trying to write positive stuff, you put such a negative spin on things that it is rediculous.

    You state that it is not likely to double in the next year? Would you like to make a wager on that? Man to Man, Satwaves to Fool? I happen to think it will happen in the next 6 months, but since you give it a year, I'll take it.

    This company will report an increase in subscriber numbers this quarter by my calculations (which I have posted on http://www.satwaves.com)... Oh, by the way... where are you numbers? The company will also report it's first ever opperating profit in Q4, which will propel the stock well over the absurd $1 minimum price required by the Nasdaq... There are a ton ofshort and middle term catalyst that SCREAM buy... And next to none that say sell. The fool of course misses this, and so will it's readers.

    It is the reason that you recommended XM as a stand alone from $35 all the way to $14, and why anyone that follows your advice has already missed 1500% gains from the bottom. You are late to the party everytime, and this time is no different. Keep me in mind when you start recommending the stock at $1.50 late next year.

    David "Newman" Phillips

    http://www.satwaves.com

    Newman@satwaves.com

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 1:58 AM, yamazed wrote:

    Looking at the technicals I'd say starting late November 2009 on SIRI will start its run. There might be a reverse split to help the stock gain investors and it'll hurt it for a couple of months but when the numbers will keep on coming out and new products keep on rolling out I believe we should easily hit the 600% to 800% gain by December 2010.

    For heavens the guys out in space listen to Sirius XM radio on their iPods.

    Hey heard the latest FCC ruling on internet access? Write another copy of your internet radio versus SIRI.

    SIRI is only a stock I own and I believe it has beaten most of the stocks you have mentionned in your life in as little as 6 months. IN fact I would bet you for today's close to another 6 months it will beat any stock you put out on any articles you mentionned a stock by name.

    So what stocks you wanna name TODAY versus SIRI for the next 6 months?

    You'll loose your bet. SIRI should have reverse split a couple months ago and I am in favor for a reverse split.

    I believe in might hurt the stock with a 15% to 20% pullback but then once it hits its new support level there won't be enough room for this monster to grow.

    Yama

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 2:21 AM, mmz08 wrote:

    Rick,I understand your motive, to be cotroversial. Siri has now over $6 billion write off credit also the people that subscribe SIRI are not the kid's with gimicks you keep bringing up ,these are older customers that can afford $12.00 a month to bring the memories back and we have more than 50 million of them. The coutry side just loves Siri and what it offers. So your analysis have no merit, you write same senario day in and day out because you are to lazy to find something new fool. Just one more thing,If fool makes so much money why are you still there . I retired at 50.

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 7:05 AM, RAF22 wrote:

    A market that fails to go down on adverse news is telling you that further upside potential lies ahead. Over the last week, there has been a steady stream of negative articles about Sirius XM from the usual "bashers'" and those continuing to hold short positions at increasingly large losses. Nevertheless, SIRI remains firm - well within recently attained ranges near the highs, having pulled back only a few cents on all this rehash of "old news" and ridiculous hype about potential bankruptcy, etc. In fact, the slight pullback yesterday was merely in line with that of the general markets overall and had nothing to do with any change in sentiment for SIRI - which remains overwhelmingly positive. So - a market which fails to move lower on adverse news is always taken by the pros to be an indication of a market that can run on the upside on favorable news - and this dynamic certainly applies to SIRI. This is one of the great turnaround stories of the year and the impressive gains over the last six months are only the start.

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 8:04 AM, mikebz5 wrote:

    Your profit comparison to DirectTV is flawed on so many levels it's disgusting!

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 10:47 AM, collinskcaolcom wrote:

    It wouldn't make sense for Liberty to convert their ownership into common shares of stock before such time that it would not have a major negative impact on the company's value... I believe that with some reasonable patience, in time Sirus XM is going to evolve into a major network player who will be offering all kinds of services and will provide a much better return to Liberty's investment...

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 11:28 AM, spr0949 wrote:

    SIRIDoom's shorts came due and he lost his shirt. Then he lost his broadband. He was last heard muttering "It should have gone down!" as he was being admitted to his local psych ward.

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 1:33 PM, jcopeland1 wrote:

    A very reliable source in NYC tells me that Chinese automaker Chery is in confidential talks with Sat Radio provider Sirius XM discussing ways to provide the service as a package on their new cars. Evidently, Chery is forecasted to hit 1,000,000 cars per year in sales this year and is being billed as the fastest growing automaker in the world.

    Subsequently, SIRI officials are also in talks with Indian automaker TATA who is interested in the service technology as well. TATA is forecasted to sell about 1,000,000 cars this year as well.

    Since I got this "tip" I have been looking into this sat radio company and I feel this is news all of the shareholders (including myself now) would love to know well in advance. *Save this blog for future reference and don't say I didn't tell you!

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 1:34 PM, jcopeland1 wrote:

    My inside contact in NYC tells me to expect to see "service package bundling" between DirecTV and SIRIUS XM (with several new channels to be available through XM backseat) to be announced as soon as March 2010.

    This is not Top Secret info and I'm sure we all saw this coming. The bigger, and more secret news, is about the upcoming China and India service offerings.

    *Mark your calendars and remember that you heard it here first.

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 2:32 PM, jay2yeux wrote:

    That's all very comforting guys ! I just bought 6000 shares this morning before reading your comments and will sleep good tonight !

    Jerome

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 3:22 PM, DiscoFinance wrote:

    Your new "positive" headlines are cracking me up!!!

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 4:11 PM, jcopeland1 wrote:

    Here you go DiscoFinance... read it and keep "cracking up"!!! ..the "jokes" on you!!!

    SIRI to go Global:

    http://www.rapidtvnews.com/index.php/200909084661/sirius-to-...

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 5:48 PM, RAF22 wrote:

    Thanks for providing this link, jcopeland1. Most interesting - Shorts betting against John Malone. I like that.

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 5:55 PM, RAF22 wrote:

    Thanks for providing this link, jcopeland1. Most interesting - Shorts fighting John Malone. I like that.

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 7:28 PM, wdon27 wrote:

    Re SIRI.

    From all indications the UAW will bring down

    GM. How much will this effect SIRI in sales,

    should GM fail again?

    wdon27@hotmail.com

  • Report this Comment On September 23, 2009, at 8:41 AM, RAF22 wrote:

    See Satwaves.com for the latest information regarding Sirius XM. This site provides unbiased and reliable information and commentary that is not found elsewhere. SIRI is strengthening in response to continuing improvements in the company's fundamentals and new product developments. The move of SIRI into the range from .70 to .80 (expected over the next few weeks) is significant and will bring more investors aboard. Once .80 is taken out on the upside (expected within two months) conviction will solidify that Sirius XM is really on its way. These are technically significant levels that show a high probability of being attained - and exceeded - over the intermediate term.

  • Report this Comment On September 23, 2009, at 9:50 AM, orchid5 wrote:

    I know absolutely nothing about placing satellites in geosynchronous orbit or the regulations regarding the parking of such satellites. With that said, I have to wonder what it would take for Sirius XM to place one of our "birds" over Europe and Asia. Imagine the subscribers we could pick up if we had coverage over Europe and China. There is literally a world of subscribers waiting for access to the marvel known as Sirius XM Satellite Radio. Just a thought.

  • Report this Comment On September 23, 2009, at 11:24 AM, JamesRobertDobbs wrote:

    "That's an impressive number of people paying for a medium that was completely free a decade ago."

    Dude. No. Please tell me you're not comparing Sirius to FM radio. Please.

    Even if YOU think the service provided by the two is the same, millions of people don't think so.

  • Report this Comment On September 23, 2009, at 11:26 AM, JamesRobertDobbs wrote:

    orchid5: one of "our" birds? Little slip o' the fingers, there?

  • Report this Comment On September 23, 2009, at 12:09 PM, brandonmatthews wrote:
  • Report this Comment On September 23, 2009, at 12:57 PM, larslong wrote:

    I think there is definitely some middle ground to be had here in the case of SIRI. Yes they have experienced subscriber churn, yes they have a mountain of debt and yes they escaped a devastating bankruptcy. But, they are resilient...they are introducing new products and services which will temper churn. They refinanced a large portion of their debt (the simple fact that they were able to do this is a very positive sign) to stretch out their near term debts which takes a tremendous strain off of their annual results.

    They are indeed showing signs of growth which under astute management makes me bullish. They are in essence a monopoly, striking favorable deals with car companies both foreign and domestic and for both new and used cars. Cars are NOT going to be replaced by segways or flying ships so their position is secure in this industry.

    They are doing what they need to be doing and doing it well. I agree it is not the best investment and because of the powerful bashers it is a somewhat speculative investment. What you can not speculate about is the actions taken by the management are the correct ones and that bankruptcy has been avoided.

    Therefore, the stock will continue to appreciate, with Q3 right around the corner we will see numbers hitting the $1 mark. Finally with respect to retirement...I just bought another 200,000 shares and if I can make 30% in several months I will take that and be happy. There are a lot of bulls and I am proud to be one of them, albeit a bit tempered.

  • Report this Comment On September 23, 2009, at 5:22 PM, orchid5 wrote:

    JRD,

    No slip o' the finger. I'm long 50,000 shares in SIRI. Therefore I feel comfortable in calling the "birds" mine.

  • Report this Comment On September 24, 2009, at 8:10 AM, RAF22 wrote:

    Substantial evidence - fundamental and technical - strongly suggests risk/reward favors holding long positions at this time. Projected upside potential is significantly greater - and more probable - than downside exposure from current levels. SIRI has shown an ability to hold through any negative news (with virtually zero tendency to pull back) and expectations are now favorable for 3rd and 4th Qtr. releases (due in November and February). Stay the course. Shorts - this train has now left the station and should be picking up speed in coming weeks and months.

  • Report this Comment On September 24, 2009, at 10:21 AM, TallKenNJ wrote:

    Like many others, I own SIRI purely for speculative reasons, and, frankly, for a very particular and specific speculation. The simple fact is, whether you are looking at SIRI to continue to strengthen as a company over the longterm with slowly increasing share price or if you want to see SIRI double or even triple in a day, there is one thing that would accomplish both, and this could be accomplished tomorrow or whenever SIRI gets off their butts and takes care of it.

    If and when Howard Stern decides to re-sign, even if for only two or three more years, SIRI's price will take a huge leap and with good reason. He is the one and only thing that can ensure SIRI will maintain enough subscribers in the longer term to make up for the steady stream of new car buyers who simply allow their satellite radio contract to expire after the free trial period is up. At the moment, Howard's contract is up at the end of 2010... in other words, in little more than a year. For the amount of money it costs per month, I have serious doubts that enough people would keep their subscriptions without Howard as a draw.

    Whether you love Howard or hate him, he has rabid fans who listen all day, every day... and they are perfectly willing to do whatever it takes to keep listening. If SIRI loses Howard, they are going to become, to a shockingly large number of current subscribers, a source of music only. There are simply too many other cheap and simple options for commercial-free music out there including Ipods, internet radio, and who knows what the next flavor of the month will be. For $13/mo (I think that is about what I am paying at the moment), most of us simply require more for our money than music, especially when, as we all know, we can listen to an endless supply of commercial free music that matches our exact personal tastes simply by plugging in our Ipod.

    I have too much respect to SIRI's management team to think they do not realize this. Perhaps, they are posturing so they can save a few dollars in the negotiations, but they need to do something soon. As an example, my current subscription is up in January 2011. If Howard is not part of the lineup at that time, I will NOT even consider renewing. It simply doesn't make sense for me to do so, and SIRI KNOWS they have millions of subscribers right now who feel the same way and as December 2010 continues to get closer with no action from SIRI, these people are gradually going to start letting subscriptions expire.

  • Report this Comment On September 25, 2009, at 10:26 AM, eltiburon38 wrote:

    SIRI...

    Only good for the 20 cent swing that it's been seeing the last few months.

    HD radio and mobile broadband are the grim reapers regarding SIRI.

    This isn't rocket science.... They have a monopoly on an item that no one needs. AND THEY ARE NOW PLAYING COMMERCIALS BETWEEN SONGS/ PROGRAMMING????? Are you kidding me?

  • Report this Comment On September 25, 2009, at 11:57 AM, KeitaiOtaku wrote:

    I don't feel this company has what it takes to be a fool recommendation, from a value perspective. It has negative earnings per share, and 16 times price to book. Apple trades at 6 P/B, and they have a proven, consistent track record.

    This company is a loser, just like satellite television and satellite cellular. The upfront costs are too much to justify the original business case, and I am quite certain that maintenance costs are horrible.

    Localized high-def radio is taking over what's free, and with everyone holding a wireless enabled ipod in 2-3 years, the possibilities of streaming content to the person will be endless.

    This company is a loser now, and I cannot see right now how the concept can be turned around in the future.

  • Report this Comment On September 25, 2009, at 1:38 PM, zerozero3 wrote:

    I have a subscription to XM/Sirus in my car. I like music most and and the occasionally comedy break. I am not into chat or talk and do not listen to sports on the radio. I used to have a second subscription to XM/Sirus for the house which I canceled last year after getting hooked on Pandora. In contrast to XM/Sirus there is NO announcer of any type; even announcers on the classical channels/stations spoil the mood.

    On forums about music and music trends, Pandora gets into the conversation lately. I think an interesting challenge to XM/Sirus would be if Pandora found a way into automobiles.

    The edge that Pandora has over iPod and similar products is Pandora's automatic playlist generation with minimum repeats. I have a monster of a Zen W Plus loaded with all of my CD music and I still enjoy the variety on Pandora - when I can listen to it.

    If I find a way to stream Pandora into my car, then I will dump XM/Sirus. Otherwise I will likely continue my XM/Sirus subscription. But not happily so knowing that Pandora is out there.

    Dave

  • Report this Comment On September 25, 2009, at 11:41 PM, 10000nickels wrote:

    Oviously in this era of life anything can happen.

    Isn't life a gamble every minute of everyday.?

    And yes a nickel in February, how about a thousand nickels more.? Maybe you D' only fool. What will you write then.? I wonder how many of your readers think about how many thousands of SiriusXM shares you might have in your portfolio.? The best is yet to come.

  • Report this Comment On September 26, 2009, at 9:04 AM, frhasse wrote:

    I keep reading about this SIRI battle between you bloggers. Can anyone tell me the actual facts about this stock? I really believe this will turn around for the auto industry. Otherwise we won't have a country left to worry about. I am not a rich man, but I do have some money invested in SIRI. Am I right or wrong?

  • Report this Comment On September 27, 2009, at 12:59 PM, hoosierhog wrote:

    I bought SIRI at $.14/share when everyone was saying it was going down the tubes. I am also glad that people that bought the stock at $8.00/share sold it to me at $.14/share. At this point I don't care if it makes it to $2.00/share, but I don't listen to the experts that claim its has limited upside potential.

  • Report this Comment On September 28, 2009, at 11:22 AM, spr0949 wrote:

    Unfortunately I cannot respond at TheStreet.com regarding their bogus analysis of the likelyhood of Sirius filing bankruptcy this year regarding their web analysis. Hopefully my response will be picked up here.

    On their "poll" out of 1350 respondents 449 (34%) said Sirius would go under. These Cramer idiologues are still down on Sirius because the company weathered the attempts of the FCC to put them out of business, albeit with the timely rescue by Liberty Media and John Malone. The FCC played Cramer for a fool and he is taking it out on Sirius. Sirius is secure with their debt issues either resolved or delayed until 2013, which again gives them ample time to put a final resolution on these issues. Perhaps TheStreet's goal is to drive the stock down just before Sirius's quarterly report next month in which many expect the company to show a profit for the first time. Drive the stock down and then buy boatloads before the report comes out. As for me, I am in it for the longhaul and they are not going to intimidate me.

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