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Does Wall Street ever learn?

Misguided executives and profit-minded financiers brought our financial system to the edge of ruin last fall -- but now, it seems, they've pretty much returned to business as usual. Many of the same people who helped contribute to the financial crisis are still in charge at leading financial institutions. Risk-taking behavior hasn't changed much, and many "too big to fail" banks such as Wells Fargo (NYSE: WFC  ) , Bank of America (NYSE: BAC  ) , and JPMorgan Chase (NYSE: JPM  ) have become even bigger.

Short-term thinking is still the order of the day everywhere we look. Fortunately, two of the biggest names in the investment world have unleashed their wrath on the short-sightedness that pervades Wall Street.

Taking aim at the short term
Vanguard founder John Bogle and Berkshire Hathaway's (NYSE: BRK-A  ) (NYSE: BRK-B  ) Warren Buffett recently signed onto a statement from the international nonprofit Aspen Institute, warning that Wall Street's short-term focus is placing our entire economy at risk. More than two dozen high-profile investors, academic minds, and managers, including former CEOs like IBM's (NYSE: IBM  ) Louis Gerstner and Cummins' (NYSE: CMI  ) Henry Schacht, signed the statement, which advised that unless managers and investors change their behavior, regulators might have to step into the picture and change it for them.

Ultimately, the statement contends that these problems are deeply ingrained and systemic in our financial system, and that they desperately need to be resolved. The authors feel it may take significant regulatory involvement to change industrywide incentives for all involved.

The events of the past few years should have served as a wake-up call for all the players in our financial system. But at this point in the game, short-term thinking is so endemic to the investment process that it'll take far more than a strongly worded statement to change the tune of investors, fund managers, and corporate executives.

The price of folly
Buffett and Bogle are spot-on in their assessment of Wall Street's short-term blind spot. Managers are so focused on hitting near-term results and analyst estimates that they may neglect or even harm longer-term goals. Fund managers are often rewarded based on short-term results, not long-term gains.

But everyday investors are to blame as well. Investors' patience has dwindled over the years, and fewer folks are willing to hold for the long run. Instead, they prefer to trade in and out of positions, hoping to make a quick buck. This sort of near-term thinking usually costs investors more than it generates in profits.

For instance, bad timing in buying and selling mutual funds punishes investors plenty. A recent Morningstar study compared fund returns over the past five years against how investors who bought those funds actually fared with their investments. Across all fund categories, the average fund returned 1.0%, while individual investors actually lost 3.5% in those same funds!

Why the big gap? Simply put, investors lag because they are lousy market timers. Instead of buying and holding funds patiently, they make frequent short-term trades, usually at the exact wrong times. This study is just one more nail in the coffin of , but in the heat of battle, it's hard for investors to ignore the herd mentality that comes with investing.

Becoming part of the solution
So how can we mere mortal investors take Buffett and Bogle's advice to heart? While it's not easy to tune out all the news and noise surrounding us, taking short-term events in stride is key to keeping the long-term picture in mind. Do yourself a favor: Stop watching the latest short-term trading advice on financial television, and don't feel the need to trade in your online brokerage account every day. You may lose a battle now and then, but you'll be more likely to win the investing war over the long run. Don't get sucked into the short-sighted investing game.

It may seem like a single investor can't do much to create change in our nation's vast financial system. However, if we want to heal our economy and make over Wall Street's excessively short-term focus, we've got to start with our own behavior. If it's good enough for Buffett and Bogle, maybe long-term-focused investing is good enough for us, too.

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  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 3:00 PM, plange01 wrote:

    buffett may bash wall st but like every other investor he lives off it.no wall street and buffett would be working at wall -mart...

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 5:00 PM, CD101C4 wrote:

    I don't agree with your assessment of everyday investors being fickle minded and short sighted... Just look at the turnover in retirement accounts (e.g. 401K, IRA) over the last two years--- the low amount of trading in these long-term accounts contradicts your assessment.

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 5:39 PM, htownjester wrote:

    plange01- your comment is absurd. If there were no Wall St Buffett would be looking for value in any available market, whether that be buying and selling private businesses, real estate or eBay. Your comment is completely devoid of fact or meaning. Buffett has actually said his preference now is to buy private enterprises as a whole, outside of Wall St. Try reading a bit before posting a useless sound byte.

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 6:10 PM, jfenlon wrote:

    Good luck on regulators stepping in to put the brakes on short-sighted behavior on Wall Street. Congress and the SEC, the Fed, and every other watchdog will cast a blind eye or fall asleep at the wheel just as they have been doing. See Stanley Bing's article on the last page of the May 25 issue of FORTUNE.

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 8:05 PM, modeltim wrote:

    we need direct govt. intervention, the zombie (too big to exist) banks need to be shutdown for starters and the toxic assets need to written off. The Reagan tax cuts of 25 yrs ago need to be abolished as well as GWB's tax cuts for the rich of 2002. All troops should be pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Nuclear weapons need to be drastically reduced. The defense dept currently on a all war all of the time footing needs major reductions as well. The savings from the above can be used to rebuild U.S. manufacturing and unions need to be reinvigorated via passage of EFCA so that workers can earn a living wage thereby providing a basis for sustainable recovery so that consumer spending can return to normal. Without a fully employed and productive work force the odds for true, long-term U.S. economic recovery are nil.

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 8:35 PM, jc09058 wrote:

    I think Buffett and Bogle have it right concerning today's investing style. Too often I've heard in the past that "we must look at meeting this quarter's quota" at the bank I worked back in the 90's.

    Too often I see articles talking about a stock or stocks with comments about how this will be a good to hold for the next month or two before selling it. TV shows expounding this stock or that stock one month saying it's a good buy and then two weeks or months later it's time to get rid of this dog. And where did this mantra come from? The big banks, funds and day-traders. All about the I GOT to have it now mind set within this country.

    Now the government wants to put the brakes on and reduce risk. Reduce risk?? The Market is risk. I try to invest wisely in companies that have their act together but sometimes even they blow it. I can hope they get their act together and recover but not always does this happen.

    I understand that the government wants to make sure that bank and large financial institutions do not take the level of risk they took before. But, I can't help but wonder if this government control stop at just this point or will it go further than that.

    Banks are about risk as well. The risk of a loan being made good or a credit card being paid off. Generally, delinquency and default is that risk they take and the only way to grow the banks is to take further risk with people or companies through loans.

    If the banks have the brakes put on, then they will do the same with loans by cutting back on the risk that they take. They will do this to increase the bank/shareholder net worth at the expense of riskier loans.

    With less loans being made, will we see reduction in the overall economic growth because of this? I believe this will be the result of the government intervention.

  • Report this Comment On September 22, 2009, at 10:03 PM, guiniepig wrote:

    Modeltim,

    It is nice to read some one who is inteligent and insightfull, I wish you had a regular advice piece on here, you're certainly sharper than most of the bloggers the M/F brings in, if not all of them. I hope you post more.

  • Report this Comment On September 23, 2009, at 2:16 PM, GetMeTheBigKnife wrote:

    It's no surprise how today's investors behave. We value speed, especially since the advent of the home computer and internet - we want fast results. Within the last 20 years or so, kids have had high levels of stimulation through nintendo, playstation, etc., and other intense multimedia entertainment. Now, as those kids have grown up and become a part of the investing/financial world, the attraction of caffein-enhanced day-trading and short-term results is powerful. It's no wonder to me how things have come to be. Rein everyone in with effective regulation and systemic changes to keep things in balance and allow the markets to reflect the best of capitalism and not its worst.

  • Report this Comment On September 23, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Glycomix wrote:

    This is the ultimate Arrogance.Congress' banks Fannie and Freddie caused the crash. Now everyone ELSE should pay! (For evidence of this See William Poole's May/June 2007 speech "What should we do with the GSE's" where he pointed out that they owed $1.8 Trillion more than their assets were worth in 2006)

    I say force congress to live within its means.

    They're increasing the debt from 2 to 4 to 9 trillion dollars. With 135 million Taxpayers, including welfare moms, teens working at McDonalds and transients working at Manpower. My guestimate is that there's less than 100 Million taxpayers above the poverty level. Based on that arithmetic, The trillion dollars that OBama and the congress want to spend on a health care plan will cost every taxpayer $10,000 PER TAXPAYER. Is Insurance coverage for $10,000 apiece a bargain??

    I can't afford this much to be added to my budget, Can you?? OK. If you can, you can pay for everyone who can't afford it. Now it's $40K added to your bill.

    Wait! that's ONLY the health system cost. We have to add all of the debt congress is making by paying 120 billion this year to keep Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac afloat. They're insisting that Fannie and Freddie have to make 52% of their loans to the poor, NINJA loans (No Income, No Job or Alimony).

    Why add another entitlement when we can't pay the bills now?

    Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac casued the crash since they made 78% of the loans in 2008 (52% to the poor or to specific ethnic groups) and Fannie and Freddie went bankrupt.

    Countries like Iceland had put their whole retirement into fannie and Freddie. Their 'social security' system was wiped out They no longer trust the US.

    Iceland tied their currency to the Euro and received financial help from them.

    No one knew what Fannie and Freddie were worth

    they were worth because the Dems had EXEMPTED Fannie and Freddie from the reporting rules in the 1934 Securities act and all other security acts. Moody's had guestimated the security of their loans from their previous standards, before Frank and the Dems put a blanket over their assets and practices. This happened in 1991-1992 in the Cranston-Gonzalez "Affordable Housing Act" and in the Reauthorizing of the Government Sponsored Enterprises

    In his May/June 2007 Speech, What shall we do with the GSEs", William Poole, St. Louis Federal Reserve Governor pointed out that the GSE's (mostly Fannie and Freddie) owed $1.8 Trillion more than they had in assets as of October 2006.

    What is this figure now? Why doesn't OBama and the dems tell us

    Bernanke for the Fed and the FDIC governor bought up toxic housing assets to keep the banking system afloat. However, Barney Frank and the Congressional Housing Finance subcommittee are still up to thier old habits.

    They want more loans to the poor. They've

    Why doesn't OBama reign in Fannie, Freddie and the other GSE's before he starts saddling us with more and more debt? Is it that he doesn't understand the financial system? He's a lawyer, not a businessman or an economist.

    Chris Dodd and Charles Schumer hid the problem with Fannie and Freddie when the Fed chairman

    Greenspan in June 2005, warned that congress needed to lower the GSE's market share of loans or it would cause "systemic risk" to the banking system.

    The congressional "housing subcommittee" With Franks, Meeks, and Waters on it, still harangues Fannie and Freddie executives who don't meet "Affordable Housing" goals. Why did the CEO of Freddie Mac commit suicide? Watch the CSPAN archives on this committee. They eat managers up if they don't knuckle under to these congressmen's impossible political agendas.

    By June 2008 we had a system failure of the banking system. On September 19, 2008 Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were declared insolvent and taken over by the FHA administrator.

    The banking system was bailed out, but there is no cushion. The Fed and the FDIC became bankrupt

    when they bought up the Freddie and Fannie's toxic home loans. The system now rests on a shaky foundation. Any excessive stress will break it and US businesses will be sold to offshore competitors.

    If the Dems continue their insane borrowig and spending on worthless assets like "unemployment benefits", no foreigners will will accept dollars for their goods and services.

    Except for export, we will have no trade. And without a banking system, it'll be difficult for our companies to survive and compete in the world market.

    Without money to run a government and to field a military, we'll become victims of international terrorism. We'll have no way to retaliate, because the country will become bankrupt

  • Report this Comment On September 25, 2009, at 12:22 AM, 2humble2fool wrote:

    Okay, but the market is a zero sum game less trading costs. So if the average mutual fund holder is losing money, then someone is making money. Please keep up the short-term behavior, it creates buying opportunities and irrational valuations for long-term buy and holders like me.

  • Report this Comment On September 25, 2009, at 10:11 AM, raju3864 wrote:

    Markets work on difference of opinion. If everybody did "buy and hold" or imitated Buffet or Bogle's investment style, then I am sure that these gentlemen wouldn't be making that much money.

    Thinking of it, the difference of opinion is also valid in day-to-day life. Like somebody said, "if everybody thought the same, we would still be savages".

  • Report this Comment On September 27, 2009, at 9:34 AM, tribbleva wrote:

    It's always frustrating when writers omit links to the source material they're discussing, interpreting, and representing to their readers.

    http://www.aspeninstitute.org/policy-work/business-society/c...

  • Report this Comment On September 27, 2009, at 10:15 AM, tribbleva wrote:

    Ms. Kish states that "everyday investors are to blame as well." To blame for what is not exactly clear, but it can't be the failures of the markets as a whole. The Aspen statement itself states that "[i]ndividual investors do participate directly in the market, but they are mostly passive and unorganized and their role has diminished in recent years." The statement fingers institutions, along with government and corporate directors, as largely responsible for the market failures.

    If everyday investors are to blame for anything, it is at worst their own poor decisions made amidst the churn caused by the people with actual power to move the markets for their own short-term gain. This is the real risk for the individual recently; valuations are exceedingly difficult to calculate meaningfully at any given time and prices change rapidly without rhyme or reason.

    In a the market wave pools ruled by institutions, mom-and-pop are just along bobbing along for the ride, and their results have more to do with luck lately than with planning.

  • Report this Comment On September 29, 2009, at 6:02 PM, sheeptoast wrote:

    Considering that most of my long-term investments have been decimated by the volatility in the market over the years..namely 3 deep recessions- I am not convinced that buy and hold is a valid strategy anymore. With the deep losses incurred in every recession my gains are always wiped out. Therefore one behavior begets another..I can't really afford to buy and hold so the only solution is to go short term and join the madness. If the market were not so volatile then perhaps I, an individual investor could go back to more rational behavior.

    In the meantime, I do believe companies are short-term managing themselves out of longevity. You either frantically innovate to keep up or slowly die. Consumers play their role in this scenario as well. Read Robert Reich's book entitled Super Capitalism. An interesting take on the evolution of our economic system.

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