Tillys (TLYS) Q4 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

Tillys (TLYS 2.21%)
Q4 2021 Earnings Call
Mar 10, 2022, 4:30 p.m. ET

Contents:

• Prepared Remarks
• Questions and Answers
• Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to the Tilly's, Inc. fourth quarter 2021 earnings results conference call. [Operator instructions] Please note, this conference is being recorded.

I will now turn the conference over to your host, Gar Jackson of Investor Relations. You may begin.

Gar Jackson -- Investor Relations

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Tilly's fiscal 2021 fourth-quarter earnings call. Ed Thomas, president and CEO; and Michael Henry, CFO, will discuss the company's results and then host a Q&A session. For a copy of Tilly's earnings press release, please visit the Investor Relations section of the company's website at tillys.com. From the same section, shortly after the conclusion of the call, you will also be able to find a recorded replay of this call for the next 30 days.

Certain forward-looking statements will be made during this call that reflect Tilly's judgment and analysis only as of today, March 10, 2022, and actual results may differ materially from current expectations based on various factors affecting Tilly's business. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. For a more thorough discussion of the risks and uncertainties associated with any forward-looking statements, please see the disclaimer regarding forward-looking statements that is included in our fiscal 2021 fourth-quarter earnings release, which was furnished to the SEC today on Form 8-K as well as our other filings with the SEC referenced in that disclaimer. Today's call will be limited to one hour and will include a Q&A session after our prepared remarks.

I now turn the call over to Ed.

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Gar. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Fiscal 2021 was our most profitable year ever. Our fourth-quarter comparable net sales grew by 12.5% and our earnings per share of $0.38 represented our best fourth-quarter earnings in our public company history.

From a product perspective, all departments comped positive in the fourth quarter with accessories, men's and boys especially strong with double-digit percentage increases. As we begin fiscal 2022, we have seen good, early reads from our spring assortment offerings in shorts, dresses, and more fashionable tops. Graphic tees with retro content from the 1990s and Y2K era are growing in popularity. We've launched a print-on-demand T-shirt initiative through a third-party service provider that is off to a nice start, and we expect this initiative to grow over the course of fiscal 2022 and beyond.

In footwear, global brands are driving growth for us, although adequate and timely supply remains a moving target with the ongoing supply chain challenges. Swim has also been hit disproportionately by the supply chain delays, but we still expect this category to be a meaningful contributor to the spring/summer season. The return of in-person school, festivals, and travel has driven a strong bags business. Long bottoms continue to do well with the combination of new fits, proportions, colors, and fabrics.

We believe the newness that is available across several departments will continue to be important in driving sales. The positive momentum in our business for the past five quarters continued into the early part of the first quarter of fiscal 2022, although our comparable net sales have recently started to decline relative to last year. Given the unique impacts of last year's pent-up demand exiting 2020's pandemic restrictions and federal stimulus payments, which created a significant acceleration in our business for the later half of the first quarter last year, we expect this recent decline relative to last year to continue and get more pronounced. While we continue to encounter risks and uncertainties relating to the COVID-19 pandemic, supply chain difficulties, labor challenges and increasing costs generally, we remain cautiously optimistic at this time about our business prospects for fiscal 2022 as a whole to our prepandemic performance due to the newness in merchandise trends that are available.

In terms of real estate, we continue to expect to open 15 to 20 new stores during fiscal 2022, 10 of which are nearing lease execution at this time. We expect 6 of those stores to open during the second quarter and four to open during the third quarter. Any additional new stores are expected to open in or around November. On existing leases, we are roughly halfway done with our fiscal 2022 lease decisions.

We have been generally pleased with the results of our negotiations overall. Yet in a few cases, we have decided to close stores due to proposed rent increases. Our store traffic is still down relative to 2019, continuing a multiyear decline that started well before the pandemic hit. And thus, we remain focused on ensuring our leases make economic sense to us in that environment.

As we noted during our last earnings call, our capital expenditure priorities for fiscal 2022 beyond new stores include upgrading our mobile app and website platforms, IT infrastructure and cybersecurity investments, and improving distribution efficiencies. In order to position ourselves for a long-term anticipated future growth, we have also begun evaluating additional potential distribution investments to support that growth. We do not have any specific details to share at this time but anticipate we'll have more to share about this at a future date. In closing, we remain cautiously optimistic about the current momentum in our business relative to prepandemic times and our long-term growth opportunities.

I will now turn the call over to Mike to provide additional details on our fiscal 2022 fourth-quarter operating performance and to introduce our fiscal 2022 first-quarter outlook. Mike?

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

Thanks, Ed. Good afternoon, everyone. The fourth quarter of fiscal 2021 produced our best fourth-quarter earnings per share in our public company history and fiscal 2021 as a whole, produced a company record earnings per share of $2.06, far surpassing any previous fiscal year. Details of our fourth-quarter operating performance compared to last year's fourth quarter by line item were as follows: Total net sales of $204.5 million increased by $26.6 million or 14.9%, compared to $177.9 million last year.

Total net sales from physical stores were $152.2 million, an increase of $29.6 million or 24.2%, compared to $122.5 million last year. Net sales from physical stores represented 74.4% of our total net sales, compared to 68.9% of total net sales last year. E-commerce net sales were $52.3 million, a decrease of $3.1 million or 5.6%, compared to $55.4 million last year but still 57% above the fourth quarter of fiscal 2019. E-comm net sales represented 25.6% of total net sales, compared to 31.1% of total net sales last year.

Consumer behavior in 2021 favored stores over e-comm compared to last year, during which stores were more constricted in hours and customer occupancy limits than this year. We ended the fiscal year with 241 total stores, a net increase of three stores compared to the end of fiscal 2020. Gross profit, including buying, distribution, and occupancy expenses, improved to $70.4 million or 34.4% of net sales, compared to $58.3 million or 32.7% of net sales last year. Buying, distribution, and occupancy costs improved by 190 basis points collectively despite increasing by $1.9 million in total due to leveraging these costs against higher net sales.

Product margins declined by 20 basis points primarily due to higher sales return reserves and reduced inventory shrink favorability than last year, the combination of which more than offset a lower markdown rate compared to last year. Total SG&A expenses were $53.1 million or 25.9% of net sales, compared to $44.1 million or 24.8% of net sales last year. Primary dollar increases in SG&A were higher store payroll and related benefit costs of $4.5 million; increased marketing expenses of $1.7 million, primarily associated with e-comm; and higher corporate bonus accruals of $0.6 million due to our strong operating performance throughout fiscal 2021. Operating income improved to $17.3 million or 8.5% of net sales, compared to $14.1 million or 7.9% of net sales last year primarily due to the significant increase in net sales.

Income tax expense was $4.9 million or 28.7% of pre-tax income, compared to $5.1 million or 36.6% of pre-tax income last year. The decrease in the effective income tax rate was primarily due to a normalization of the tax rate after last year's effective tax rate was distorted by low pre-tax losses for the year as a whole. Net income improved to $12.1 million or $0.38 per diluted share, which is a fourth-quarter record for us in our public company history, compared to $8.9 million or $0.29 per diluted share last year. Weighted average shares were $31.4 million this year, compared to $30.1 million last year.

Turning to our balance sheet. We ended the fiscal year with total cash and marketable securities of $139 million and no debt outstanding compared to $141 million and no debt last year. This is after we paid an aggregate of approximately $62 million in special cash dividends to our shareholders during 2021. We ended the fiscal year with inventories per square foot up 17% over last year, generally in line with our 15% fourth-quarter net sales growth rate and our early first-quarter net sales results.

Entering this current week, inventories were up 7% to last year. We continue to contend with product delays through the Southern California ports and believe this condition will continue to be a challenge for several more months. Our merchant team has worked incredibly hard to manage and adjust our overall inventory levels through an extremely volatile and unpredictable period. Total capital expenditures for fiscal 2021 were $13.4 million, compared to $8.5 million last year, the increase being primarily due to new store openings.

Looking ahead, the current business environment remains subject to many unpredictable risks and uncertainties with respect to, among others, the COVID-19 pandemic, the current inflationary environment, continuing supply chain difficulties, geopolitical concerns, and how consumer behavior may change relative to any of these factors as well as last year's historic anomalies of pent-up demand coming out of pandemic-related restrictions and federal stimulus payments. On top of that, we also have a later Easter this year. As a result, it is extremely difficult to predict our business results with any certainty given that nothing has been so-called normal for two full years now. That being said, turning specifically to the first quarter of fiscal 2022, total comparable net sales through March 6 increased by 10.4% compared to last year, with an increase from physical stores of 14% and a decrease from e-commerce of 1.3%.

During last year's first quarter, comparable net sales were negative during February, turned positive in March, and then accelerated significantly from March week three through the end of the first quarter following the relaxation of pandemic restrictions and the release of federal stimulus payments. The opposite has occurred thus far in the first quarter of fiscal '22 with a strong February, followed by negative comps in early March. We anticipate a further deceleration in our business relative to last year for the latter half of the first quarter as we go up against the peak performance of last year's first quarter that was driven by the unique environment at that time and the current headwinds I just described. Based on current and historical first-quarter trends, we estimate that our total net sales for the first quarter of fiscal 2022 will be in the range of approximately $143 million to $148 million, translating to a comparable store net sales decline of 10% to 13% for the first quarter of fiscal 2022 compared to last year.

We currently expect our earnings per diluted share for the first quarter of fiscal 2022 to be in the range of breakeven to $0.05 per diluted share with an estimated income tax rate of 27% and weighted average diluted shares of 31.6 million. We currently expect to have 241 total stores at the end of the first quarter compared to 238 at the end of the first quarter of fiscal '21. This outlook compares to $163 million in total net sales and $0.36 in earnings per diluted share for last year's first quarter, which were first-quarter records for us by far, and $130 million in total net sales and $0.02 in earnings per diluted share for fiscal 2019's prepandemic first quarter. Operator, we'll now go to our Q&A session.

Questions & Answers:

Operator

Thank you. [Operator instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Jeff Van Sinderen with B. Riley. Please proceed with your question.

Jeff Van Sinderen -- B. Riley Financial -- Analyst

Hi, everybody. Maybe if we can just circle back to supply chain for a second. I guess kind of your -- as you're looking at your supply chain dashboard, how that looks now, I know there -- I understand there's still some delays going through the ports. And then maybe if you can give us more color on kind of how you're thinking about the inflationary influences on your business.

Maybe what you're seeing from vendors in terms of price increases from them and how you're thinking about passing those increases on to your customer.

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

OK. Jeff, as far as the supply chain goes, there's a couple of categories that have been impacted more than most of the categories. Shoes is one where we've seen -- and shoes happens to be a very hard category for us. But we've seen some slowdown in the shoe replenishment area from multiple brands, not just one brand.

And then probably to a lesser extent, some of the seasonal categories, particularly shorts and swim, we've been delayed in getting those receipts. So we have some, but we don't have as much as we normally have. And it appears to be opening up a little. But as Mike said earlier, we're expecting that the supply chain challenges will remain for several more months, but it certainly doesn't seem to be as extreme as it had been for the last several months.

So that's kind of where we are with supply chain. I'm sorry, what was the second question?

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

It was inflation.

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Inflation. OK.

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

Pricing for the brands and stuff.

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. I think we've seen some price increases from some of the brands, but it hasn't been across the board. We expected it. And because most of -- our branded goods, they're all on the map pricing.

It's kind of like we're all in the same -- anybody that sells these brands is going to be in the same category. But we haven't seen anything that's really material. And certainly, we'll adjust where necessary -- our pricing where necessary to minimize the impact on gross margins.

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

Yes. And then I'd just add to that. As you think about the expense side of things from an inflationary standpoint, particularly, I think we're seeing something of a return to a normalization perhaps. And so if we compare to prepandemic 2019, we certainly have a number of areas where costs are just significantly higher than they were three years ago.

Obviously, minimum wage is a big piece of that. In 2019, it was $12 an hour here in California. We're now at $15. That's a 25% increase in the wage rate.

Insurance costs are more than double what they were three years ago. In the first quarter alone, that's going to cost us about $900,000 additional dollars than it did in 2019. Freight costs are significantly higher than they were three years ago. So there's a number of cost pressures in addition to the product cost increases that we've seen from some of the brands.

And yet with a greater sales productivity that we're expecting for this first quarter relative to the 2019 first quarter, we still have a chance to produce earnings that are as good or better than we did in 2019 if we're at the better end of our outlook range. And hopefully, we will be. But admittedly, for all the reasons that I laid out in our prepared remarks, it is just extremely difficult to predict anything with any certainty, just as it has been for two years running now. It's no easier with all these different factors in play.

Jeff Van Sinderen -- B. Riley Financial -- Analyst

Right. Understood. And then just a follow-up on the shorts and the swim area. Do you think having kind of a lean assortment or a kind of lean inventory there is earning business in March as we're kind of approaching the typical seasonal spring break and all that? Or do you think that's not so much of a factor?

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

It's building. So I think it's getting better and will certainly impact spring. It's -- geographically, it varies because of weather. So as we get further into the spring with the late Easter and -- later Easter, I think it will get better.

And I'm expecting a slight supply chain for those categories to improve.

Jeff Van Sinderen -- B. Riley Financial -- Analyst

OK. And then I think you said inventory was roughly up 7% per foot at the end of the month, maybe, I think, you said.

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

No. That was entering this week. So we were up 17% at the end of the fourth quarter. Entering this week, that was down to up 7%.

Jeff Van Sinderen -- B. Riley Financial -- Analyst

OK. OK. So -- and just in thinking about that -- do you -- I mean I would expect every -- I think everybody's got to get a little more promotional, especially if they have a little more inventory and it slowed down. Is it fair to say that you would plan to be a little more promotional than you were at this time last year and I guess how are you --

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

Certainly, the last year, yes.

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

I don't think -- it's not going to be drastically different than what we historically do. Our inventory is really very, very clean and current, for sure. And it's -- I'd rather have these supply chain delays earlier in the spring than late. So I don't think there's much exposure there.

In our category performance, quarter to date is positive across the board. So there's no real major weaknesses in any one category of our business.

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

Yes. We are expecting product margins to be down relative to last year. but they should be still better than they were in 2019. So it's a little bit different answer, depending on the relativity of which period we're talking about.

We do expect to have a little bit better product margins than we had in 2019. But they'll be somewhat below last year just because we're not anticipating to have the level of full-price selling that we had with the robust environment that existed at this time last year. And we do expect the need to be incrementally more promotional to keep inventories controlled.

Jeff Van Sinderen -- B. Riley Financial -- Analyst

And then just one last one, if I could squeeze it in. Just thinking about how you're planning inventory going forward, assuming the business is down, I don't know, call it, whatever, 10% on a comp basis this year to last year, do you now start to plan inventory to run negative year over year on a square-foot basis?

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

That is a constantly moving target. So it's difficult to answer that with any -- because quite honestly, our merchant teams have jumped through dozens of hoops to continually adjust our inventory levels relative to what we expect. And over the past year plus, I'll tell you there's -- we've gone through periods where one given week, we're thinking, "Oh, we need to race to go get more, go get more, go get more." And seriously a week later, we're going, "Oops, we need to quickly reverse gears and go the other way."

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

I'll add that the supply chain issues were there early on, we made a concerted effort to pull goods forward to combat that. And I think that helped us for sure. It's like Mike said, it is a moving target, sales versus inventory. And as you know, Jeff, we've -- our comp inventories have been down for a long time.

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

Relative to sales.

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

So we certainly have room to play, but we're going to watch it very carefully in relation to the sales forecast.

Jeff Van Sinderen -- B. Riley Financial -- Analyst

OK. Thanks so much for taking my questions. I'll take the rest offline, and best of luck for the rest of the quarter.

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

All right. Thanks, Jeff.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Matt Koranda with ROTH. Please proceed with your question.

Matt Koranda -- ROTH Capital Partners -- Analyst

Hey, guys. Thanks. Just as we think about modeling out the rest of '22, I guess I just wanted to -- maybe a few thoughts from you guys just in terms of any other notable areas of exceptional strength in '21. I guess back to school maybe comes to mind.

So just trying to figure out like cadence of the year and how to think about comps for the rest of this year on the top line. And then I got another one on margins after that.

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

Yes. Good question. Your guess is as good as ours, quite frankly. At this point, it's difficult to predict the current week, much less any further out.

So what we're doing currently is tracking our business relative to 2019 because that was the last prepandemic period that had stability. Last year was a complete aberration, anomaly to the positive following 2020, which is a complete aberration to the negative, obviously. So if our business continues to track along the cadence of 2019, that's what leads to the outlook range that we have currently for the first quarter. Looking at our comp performance relative to 2019 and then kind of carrying that forward through the rest of the quarter.

If that cadence of things continues, sales will be meaningfully below last year every quarter. They just have to be. It's almost common sense. So where exactly that lands out, who knows? There's just too many variables around that.

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

A lot of it will depend on the macro environment. And we're seeing enough positive category performance where if the consumer is in decent shape and like to spend, I think we'll be in a good position to maybe outperform where we think we were going right now. But it's -- there's too much uncertainty.

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

Yes. I think just in the broadest context, I'd say we expect to do better than we did in 2019 at this time. But it's just certainly not realistic to think we're going to do what we did in 2021.

Matt Koranda -- ROTH Capital Partners -- Analyst

Got it. Just following up on the consumer comment really quickly and then I'll get to the margin question. But just any discernible behavioral change that you guys can see in the last couple of months? Just -- obviously, like a lot of headlines about inflationary pressure weighing on the lower end of the consumer. But just anything discernible that you guys have noticed in terms of product mix or behavioral change, that would be helpful.

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

No, we haven't seen anything like that at all. And so traffic's been OK. And conversion is -- was down. And I think that might be somewhat related to some of the labor challenges we've had.

But I haven't seen anything unusual.

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

I think if anything, just broadly, we continue to see a channel shift preference for stores relative to e-comm. That seems to be continuing. Our store traffic relative to last year is considerably up so far in the first quarter, but it's down relative to 2019. So kind of interesting that -- again, it's one of those things.

It depends on what specific period you focus on. Store traffic relative to three years ago is beneath where it was then, but it's meaningfully up relative to last year. And I just think it's with enough time, having been removed from the initial reopenings, coming out of pandemic restrictions, people prefer to be out in stores rather than continue to just sit at home and order online, generally speaking.

Matt Koranda -- ROTH Capital Partners -- Analyst

Got it. That makes sense. And then just last one on the margin assumptions embedded in the EPS guide for Q1. Just wondered, Mike, if you might be able to help out a little bit with sort of gross margin expectations versus SG&A that's embedded in there.

I got the point on sort of merch margins coming down a little bit year over year. I would expect also probably some deleverage on BD&O. And then just you did note, I think, in the prepared remarks some payroll and wage pressure. So where is the bulk of the pressure coming from? Is it more on the gross margin side or on the opex side?

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

It's everywhere through the model, quite frankly. Relative to last year, we're looking at a sales range that might be up to as much as $20 million below last year while having increasing cost pressures. Obviously, that's going to create quite a bit of deleverage with those facts in play. So we do think product margins relative to last year are going to be down somewhere in the 100 to 150 basis points, but still up to 2019 by as much as about 50 basis points.

So depending on how you're modeling, whether you're referencing 2019 or 2021, there's different answers. Relative specifically to last year, there will be deleverage in the BDO costs simply as a function of the lower sales. In our range, that assumption on BDO cost is -- it could be up to as close to 300 basis points of deleverage in the BDO combination of costs that's in gross margin. SG&A is going to be somewhere around 29% of sales, give or take a little bit here or there, again, with increasing costs on minimum wage, the insurance costs that I referenced and things of that nature on the lower sales, it's going to create some sizable deleverage there through the SG&A line that could be 450, 480 basis points, just a function of the math.

Matt Koranda -- ROTH Capital Partners -- Analyst

Gotcha. Very detailed. Thank you, Mike, and thanks, Ed. Thank you.

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Matt.

Operator

[Operator instructions] The next question comes from the line of Marni Shapiro with Retail Tracker. Please proceed with your questions.

Marni Shapiro -- The Retail Tracker -- Analyst

Hey, guys. Congratulations with the stores in spite of your apparent delivery issues, have looked really good. Fashions really -- right and looks fantastic. I'm curious, you talked about sales having fallen off compared to levels last year, but I'm curious what that really looks like.

Are you seeing the traffic changed significantly since January and February? Or is it just the compares are a lot tougher? Is she coming into the store and buying less than she was buying a year ago? Sort of more the complexion of it, like I'm trying to assess if your customers' demand has gone away or the demand just looks depressed compared to exceptional demand last year.

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

Yes, it's all about compares as you think about last year. Our February comps last year were negative. And then they started to turn positive in the first week and two of March. And then they really jumped starting in the week three of March and through the rest of the quarter.

So just for example, relative to 2019 now because obviously, relative to 2020 doesn't make any sense, February was down four last year. March was up 39 and April was up 20. And then in March, in particular, we went from a plus four to plus 11 to plus 59 to plus 49 to plus 72. So there's the explosion in rate of business that we're seeing like, OK, that's not going to be likely to happen this year when stimulus isn't in play, pent-up demand isn't in play.

So that relativity, we're not expecting the same kind of flow. And then, of course, with the later Easter for a business like ours and the age range we serve, that's going to push some business from March into April as it typically does when Easter is late. And it just so happens, fiscal '19 was pretty close within four days of the date of Easter. So that's why we continue to look at 2019 as a baseline to evaluate our business.

So far, the average transaction value has been roughly flat year over year. So it isn't that they're necessarily spending less in the transactions that are going on, we've actually had more transactions. It's just the conversion rate is down on higher traffic than a year ago in stores.

Marni Shapiro -- The Retail Tracker -- Analyst

Right, because people are actually browsing again as opposed to coming in and purchasing and leaving and being nervous.

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

Yes.

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. It's actually been better than what we anticipated. So -- from that perspective.

Marni Shapiro -- The Retail Tracker -- Analyst

Which is a good thing over time that the people are coming back and wandering around again is a good thing because you have more opportunity for transactions if they actually walk in the door.

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Exactly. And we're seeing that throughout the whole country. It's not limited to any one area. So that's good, too.

Marni Shapiro -- The Retail Tracker -- Analyst

And then just a quick follow-up on the footwear conversation because I know this has been a problem all year. I guess when you think about it in '22, do you see -- is there any visibility as to when deliveries in footwear could start to normalize? And is it across all the brands? I know in the past, you've called out some of the Nike deliveries being tough, as many people have. Just curious if you could put a little color behind that.

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

We're getting a little bit more clarity from some of the brands. I wouldn't call any one particular brand. And we're getting more clarity on it. So it's going to -- it's definitely going to get better.

I just don't know when it all comes together, the timing of that yet.

Marni Shapiro -- The Retail Tracker -- Analyst

Right. That makes sense. Well, best of luck for the next couple of weeks because it sounds like it's going to be the toughest hurdle to get through.

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

Thank you.

Operator

And we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. And I'll now turn the call back over to Edmond Thomas for closing remarks.

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you all for joining us on the call today. We look forward to sharing our first-quarter results with you in early June. Have a good evening.

Operator

[Operator signoff]

Duration: 36 minutes

Call participants:

Gar Jackson -- Investor Relations

Ed Thomas -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Mike Henry -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Investor Relations

Jeff Van Sinderen -- B. Riley Financial -- Analyst

Matt Koranda -- ROTH Capital Partners -- Analyst

Marni Shapiro -- The Retail Tracker -- Analyst

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