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DATE

Thursday, Aug. 6, 2026 at 8:30 a.m. ET

CALL PARTICIPANTS

  • Investor Relations - Christina Kmetko
  • President and CEO - John Butler
  • Senior Vice President and Controller - Elizabeth Loveman

TAKEAWAYS

  • Revenue -- $72.3 million, a 6% increase from $68.2 million, driven by growth in contract mining and higher royalty revenues.
  • Gross Profit -- $15.2 million, up 123% from $6.8 million, reflecting improved operating performance across core segments.
  • Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA -- $15.9 million, a 72% increase from $9.3 million, excluding the impact of solar impairment charges.
  • Net Loss -- $1.0 million or $0.13 per diluted share, compared with net income of $3.3 million or $0.44 per diluted share, primarily due to asset impairment charges.
  • Asset Impairment Charges -- $12 million, reflecting updated costs and grid connection delays for two solar development projects within ReGen Resources.
  • Total Liquidity -- $114.6 million at June 30, 2026, consisting of $45.5 million in cash and $69.1 million of revolving credit availability.
  • Total Debt -- $120.1 million as of the end of the second quarter.
  • Utility Coal Mining Operating Profit -- $6.3 million, up from $1.2 million, as resources were shifted to planned reclamation activities during power plant outages.
  • Utility Coal Mining Revenue -- $21.5 million, a 25% decrease from $28.6 million, due to lower consolidated tons delivered.
  • Unconsolidated Mining Earnings -- $13.6 million, up from $11.7 million, driven by increased customer requirements at the Coteau and Coyote Creek mines.
  • Contract Mining Revenue -- $16.4 million excluding reimbursable costs, representing a 34% increase from $12.2 million.
  • Contract Mining Operating Profit -- $3.8 million, up from $1 million, reflecting the ramp-up of the Palm Beach County dragline services contract.
  • Minerals and Royalties Operating Profit -- $6.7 million, up from $5.2 million, primarily due to higher oil prices and favorable pricing adjustments.
  • Minerals and Royalties Revenue -- $10.6 million, a 46% increase in the royalty component compared with the prior year quarter.
  • Unconsolidated Coal Tons -- 4.9 million tons delivered, an increase from 3.7 million tons in the second quarter of 2025.
  • Consolidated Coal Tons -- 633,000 tons delivered, down from 890,000 tons, due to operational issues at a customer power plant.
  • Contract Mining Deliveries -- 16.0 million tons, up from 13.9 million tons, reflecting increased customer requirements at limestone operations.
  • Capital Expenditures -- Up to $35 million planned for the remainder of 2026, focused on disciplined high-return investment opportunities.
  • Unallocated Operating Loss -- $19.1 million, compared with $7.5 million, driven by the $12 million solar project impairment charge.

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RISKS

  • Butler stated that tax law changes from the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, intense demand for generating equipment, and price increases linked to tariffs created a "perfect storm" that impacted solar project economics.
  • Butler warned that the company is monitoring customer payment status and evaluating legal strategies to enforce economic protections due to delayed payments at Mississippi Lignite Mining Company.
  • Loveman noted that Minerals and Royalties operating profit and Segment Adjusted EBITDA are projected to decline compared with the first half of 2026, primarily due to normal production declines on existing wells.

SUMMARY

Management reported that strong operating performance in core mining and royalty segments was offset by asset impairment charges in the solar development business. The company stated it is prioritizing liquidity and debt reduction while focusing capital on high-return mining projects. Management indicated that contract mining remains a primary growth platform, supported by new long-term agreements in Florida and Arizona. The company expects consolidated results to moderate in the second half of 2026 due to anticipated inventory write-downs and production declines.

  • CEO Butler stated that the company took impairment charges totaling $12 million for ReGen Resources projects, "reflecting a realistic view of the challenges in developing solar projects today."
  • Management is pursuing strategic alternatives for solar assets, including asset sales and contract amendments, to monetize investments and limit future capital exposure.
  • Contract mining growth is supported by the ramp-up of four draglines for an infrastructure project in Palm Beach County, Florida, which supports Lake Okeechobee and Everglades development.
  • CFO Loveman stated, "Segment profitability is expected to improve in 2027, driven by increases in both the consolidated and unconsolidated mining operations."
  • The company is preparing to start operations at a new limestone quarry in Arizona during the fourth quarter of 2026 for an existing customer.
  • Sawtooth Mining is supplying all lithium-bearing ore requirements for the Thacker Pass facility, with lithium production targeted to reach full capacity by 2028.
  • CEO Butler emphasized a diversified approach to natural resources, noting that "desire for diversification to create a more stable, very long-term platform for us lead us to believe that it's really in the best interest of the company."

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

  • MLMC: Mississippi Lignite Mining Company, a consolidated mining subsidiary of NACCO.
  • Lignite: A soft, combustible sedimentary rock formed from naturally compressed peat, considered the lowest rank of coal.
  • Dragline: A large piece of heavy equipment used in surface mining to remove overburden and extract minerals.
  • Reclamation: The process of restoring land used for mining to a natural or economically usable state following resource extraction.
  • Segment Adjusted EBITDA: A non-GAAP measure defined as segment operating profit before asset impairment charges and depreciation, depletion, and amortization.
  • One Big Beautiful Bill Act: Legislation referenced by management as creating timing and procurement challenges for renewable energy projects.
  • Mitigation Resources: A subsidiary providing natural resource restoration and reclamation services, including stream and wetland mitigation.
  • ReGen Resources: The company's business unit focused on developing renewable energy projects, specifically solar.
  • Wirtgen surface miners: Specialized equipment used for precise, high-volume extraction of minerals and aggregates without drilling or blasting.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Operator: Thank you for standing by. My name is Tina, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the NACCO Industries Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Christina Kmetko, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Christina Kmetko: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our 2026 second quarter earnings call. I'm Christina Kmetko, and I'm responsible for Investor Relations at NACCO. Joining me today are J.C. Butler, NACCO's President and CEO; and Elizabeth Loveman, our Senior Vice President and Controller. Yesterday, we released our second quarter results and filed our 10-Q with the SEC. Both documents are available on our website. During today's call, we will reference non-GAAP measures, which we believe provide additional insight into how we manage our business. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are also available on our website. Before we begin, let me remind you that today's remarks include forward-looking statements.

Actual results may differ materially from those indicated due to a variety of risks and uncertainties, which are described in our earnings release, 10-Q and other SEC filings. We undertake no obligation to update these statements. Now I'll turn the call over to J.C. for his opening remarks. J.C.?

John Butler: Thanks, Christy, and good morning, everyone. I want to start by saying that from an operating standpoint, the second quarter showed meaningful progress across NACCO's businesses. Utility Coal Mining, Contract Mining and Minerals and Royalties all contributed nicely to strong year-over-year improvement in gross profit and adjusted EBITDA. As we disclosed in our earnings release, the second quarter included impairment charges related to solar development projects that more than offset the strong operating performance of our established businesses and resulted in a consolidated operating and net loss. During the quarter, additional information and developments regarding 2 solar development projects within ReGen Resources became available, which caused us to reassess the economics of these projects.

This included updated information about increased costs and delays in connecting generation facilities to the grid. These negative developments collectively reached a tipping point in the quarter. Two key factors are at play. Tax law changes tied to the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which was signed into law just over a year ago, created tremendous timing and related procurement challenges for renewable development projects like ours, which were started long before the One Big Beautiful Bill came into play. Those factors, coupled with intense short-term demand for generating equipment, EPC services and equipment required to connect projects to the grid and price increases linked to this demand and tariffs created a perfect storm.

As part of our routine quarterly review, it became apparent that 2 impacted projects were veering off the path we anticipated, leading us to take the impairment. Our review of the situation resulted in impairment charges totaling $12 million in the quarter. We believe these impairments reflect a realistic view of the challenges in developing solar projects today, and we believe this was the right call for our business. We are not treating this as business as usual. We understand that the impairment raises questions about our capital allocation discipline, particularly in a business with risks that differ from our established mining and natural resources operations.

We reassess these projects based on updated costs, timing, grid connection, regulatory and market information, and we are pursuing a range of alternatives to monetize these investments and reduce future exposure. These alternatives include potential asset sales, contract amendments and other strategic actions. Depending on the outcome, there could be additional curtailment charges, but our focus is on preserving value where possible and limiting future capital requirements. As many of you know, we have always taken a long-term approach to building this company. We invest in business and opportunities where we believe our operating expertise, core skills, patience and disciplined capital investments can create value over time.

That approach has helped grow and diversify NACCO over the years, in most instances, with great success. However, an important part of that philosophy is continually evaluating investments as markets evolved. We assess opportunities against our financial objectives and expected returns, and we are willing to adjust our priorities when we see better paths to long-term value creation. Recent developments with our solar projects have reinforced the need to apply heightened scrutiny to investments outside our established operating platforms. With that, let's turn to our core businesses. At Utility Coal Mining, Mississippi Lignite Mining Company was a main driver of the operating profit increase in Utility Coal Mining as our team effectively responded to changing conditions.

Operational issues at the customer's power plant affected production requirements and our team shifted resources to planned reclamation activities. This reduced our asset retirement obligation rather than having those costs be recognized as an expense that would have impacted second quarter earnings. This nimble response allowed them to continue working, while also advancing work that supports the long-term life cycle of the mine and is consistent with how our coal mining teams operate. We have long-standing customer relationships built around reliability, safety, environmental responsibility and the ability to adapt to situations require. Separately, we are actively engaged with the customer regarding the delayed payments disclosed in our 10-Q.

We are focused on collecting amounts owed, preserving our contractual rights and evaluating all options available under the contract. While we will not discuss specific legal strategies on this call, we understand the importance of enforcing the economic protections in the contract if payment delays continue. Contract Mining continues to be our primary growth platform for mining with strong second quarter results reflecting the successful execution of this growth. The new dragline services work in Palm Beach County, Florida is ramping up. Our Limestone Mining operations continue to serve growing customer requirements, and we are preparing to begin operations at a new limestone quarry in Arizona later this year.

This business builds on our existing expertise through geographic and mineral expansion and a growing portfolio of long-term contracts with strong customers, we are improving profitability, enhancing earnings visibility and creating long-term value. That kind of growth fits NACCO well. In Minerals and Royalties, we continue to successfully manage a diversified portfolio of oil and gas, mineral and royalty interest and related investments. This business aligns well with our core growth strategy by leveraging our core skills and assets to generate meaningful ongoing cash flows across the broad range of natural resource businesses. The team continues to take a disciplined data-driven approach to evaluating the portfolio and future opportunities.

While second quarter results for Minerals and Royalties were strong, results in this segment can be affected by commodity prices, production timing and the pace of domestic development activity. We manage the portfolio with a long-term view and continue to build on the quality of the assets we own. We expect profits in this segment to moderate near term due to normal production declines on existing wells and a continuation of the current pace of domestic development activity, particularly in natural gas. Mitigation Resources continues to build its platform in natural resource restoration and reclamation services.

We are pleased to see that Mitigation Resources is building a strong and sustainable business by leveraging our environmental and land management skills and experience. While performance is currently variable as this business grows, Mitigation Resources is on a very nice trajectory towards profitability that we believe will provide consistent results as the business expands. Stepping back, the first half of the year reinforced what we believe makes us unique. We have core legacy businesses that generate strong earnings and cash flow today, growth platforms that are expanding and a disciplined investment process that requires us to continually evaluate where capital can create the most value. Sometimes that means investing for growth.

Sometimes it means adjusting course as facts and circumstances change. Both are part of responsible long-term investment discipline. As part of our disciplined investment approach, we remain focused on strengthening our balance sheet. We are prioritizing the use of free cash flow to enhance liquidity and reduce debt, while continuing to fund disciplined high-return investment opportunities. We anticipate investing up to $35 million in the remainder of the year, primarily for business development opportunities, but only if investment opportunities meet our capital investment criteria. Recent developments have reinforced our focus on investing where there are clear value creation pathways.

We believe this approach positions us to execute our growth strategies while strengthening our balance sheet and creating long-term value for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call over to Liz to walk through the financial results and outlook in more detail. Liz?

Elizabeth Loveman: Thank you, J.C. Building on J.C.'s operational comments, I'll provide an overview of our financial results. The key takeaway is that our operating businesses delivered strong quarterly year-over-year operating -- I'm sorry, strong quarterly year-over-year profit improvements, while reported GAAP results reflected the solar-related impairment charges J.C. discussed. Consolidated revenues were $72.3 million, up 6% from $68.2 million in the prior year quarter. Gross profit was $15.2 million, up 123% from $6.8 million last year, reflecting strong performance across each reportable segment. The consolidated operating loss was $2.3 million compared with an operating loss of less than $100,000 in the prior year quarter.

The net loss was $1 million or $0.13 per diluted share compared with net income of $3.3 million or $0.44 per diluted share in the 2025 second quarter. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA was up 72% to $15.9 million from $9.3 million last year. This measure excludes the solar-related charges and highlights the improvement in the underlying operating businesses. At the segment level, Utility Coal Mining results were affected by operational issues at Mississippi Lignite Mining Company's customer's power plant. While revenues decreased due to lower customer requirements, operating profit increased to $6.3 million from $1.2 million in the prior year quarter and segment adjusted EBITDA increased to $8.7 million from $3.4 million.

These improvements primarily reflect better Mississippi Lignite Mining Company results as resources were shifted to planned reclamation activities as well as increased earnings from unconsolidated operations and lower operating expenses. Looking forward, we expect full year Utility Coal Mining operating profit to increase year-over-year due to the strong first half performance. In the second half of 2026, we expect results at Mississippi Lignite Mining Company to decline from the first half due to lower customer demand, higher diesel fuel costs and an anticipated inventory impairment charge. We are also monitoring the customers' payment status closely, and our outlook reflects the need for continued caution around customer demand, collection timing and inventory valuation.

Earnings at the unconsolidated mining operations are also expected to decrease due to the completion of reclamation services at the Sabine Mining Company on September 30, 2026. Segment profitability is expected to improve in 2027, is driven by increases in both the consolidated and unconsolidated mining operations. In the Contract Mining segment, current quarter results benefited from the commencement and ramp-up of the Palm Beach County dragline services contract. This contract, combined with increased customer requirements and deliveries at the Limestone Mining operations led to a 34% increase in revenues net of reimbursed costs and substantial year-over-year increases in both operating profit and segment adjusted EBITDA.

Operating profit increased to $3.8 million from $1 million and segment adjusted EBITDA increased to $6.3 million from $3.9 million. For both the second half and full year of 2026, we expect substantial year-over-year growth in Contract Mining operating profit and segment adjusted EBITDA. Second half results are expected to moderate from the strong first half due to lower anticipated customer demand. In 2027, a full year of earnings contributions from Palm Beach dragline services contract, together with potential new deals in the pipeline are expected to lead to significant operating profit improvement. In the Minerals and Royalties segment, operating profit increased to $6.7 million from $5.2 million and segment adjusted EBITDA increased to $7.7 million from $6.1 million.

The improvements were primarily due to a 46% increase in royalty revenues, driven by higher oil prices and a favorable adjustment to prior period pricing estimates, partly offset by lower second quarter earnings from our Eiger investment. For the remainder of 2026, we expect increased income from our Eiger investment and higher oil prices to be more than offset by anticipated production declines and a changing mix of production and development activity. As a result, operating profit and segment adjusted EBITDA are projected to decline compared with the first half of 2026 as well as the second half and full year 2025.

In 2027, we expect the Minerals and Royalties segment to continue generating meaningful earnings and cash flow, although operating profit is expected to moderate primarily due to normal production declines and the continuation of the current moderate pace of domestic development activity. At the consolidated level, we expect a strong performance generated by our reportable segments during the first half of 2026 to drive year-over-year improvements in full year 2026 consolidated adjusted EBITDA, which excludes the solar impairment charges and a $7.8 million pretax pension settlement charge recorded in 2025.

Given the effect of these changes and potential curtailment and impairment charges in the second half of 2026, we anticipate second half and full year operating profit and net income will be lower than in 2025. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA in the second half of 2026 is expected to remain strong, although the pace of growth is expected to moderate relative to both the first half of '26 and prior year periods. From a liquidity standpoint, at June 30, 2026, we had outstanding debt of $120.1 million. Total liquidity was $114.6 million, consisting of $45.5 million of cash and $69.1 million of availability under our revolving credit facility.

While we anticipate a moderate year-over-year increase in cash generated from operations, cash flow before financing is projected to remain a use of cash in 2026, reflecting our planned investment activity. We expect cash flow before financing for 2026 to improve modestly over 2025, and we expect that improvement to continue into 2027. With that, I'll turn the call back to J.C. for closing remarks.

John Butler: Thanks, Liz. To wrap up, the second quarter demonstrated the strength of our core operating businesses. Our teams are executing well. Contract mining continues to demonstrate the value of the long-term growth platform we are building, and our other businesses continue to expand capabilities that can contribute over time. At the same time, we are focused on directing capital only towards the opportunities we believe offer the strongest risk-adjusted returns. We remain focused on execution, liquidity, disciplined capital investments and long-term cash flow generation. As recent investments mature and new contracts contribute more fully, we expect our businesses to support improving results and stronger cash flows over time. We'll now turn the call over to any questions you may have.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Douglas Weiss with DSW Investments.

Douglas Weiss: So congrats on another good result. I guess starting with MLMC. What -- it seems like there are a few things going on at once there, and I was hoping to just get a little more clarity on each. I guess you alluded in the Q to reduce demand for MLMC's generation. My sense, I would have thought that demand would be pretty steady given the growing need for electricity. Could you just comment on that?

John Butler: Yes, sure. It's a good question. So there's 3 things at play, right? One is we deliver the fuel, the power plant generates electrons and TVA takes the electrons to put on to the grid. We stand ready to deliver the fuel when it's needed as we're contractually obligated to do. The power plant operates when it is able to operate, although as you know, because you followed the company for a long time, the power plant goes through both planned outages when it's sort of periods of routine maintenance.

Those are typically done during the spring and the fall when the weather is pretty moderate, and there's not the same level of demand on the grid in general because of less air conditioning needs and things like that in the South. So you got the planned outages, but then you also have unplanned outages. And as you know, over the last several years, the plant has had a number of periods of unplanned outages. During the second quarter, there was a pretty significant unplanned outage at the plant. We knew it was going to be down for a while when they were repairing it.

So we diverted our work to reclamation activities that go through -- those costs get charged to the balance sheet as opposed to the income statement because we've got a reclamation liability. So you've got the plant that has planned and unplanned outages. But then the other piece of this is when the plant is up and available, is TVA taking the electrons or not. It's called dispatch. And there are times when generally, yes, from a macro standpoint, increasing demand for data and other things, certainly is increasing demand. There are periods of time when TVA finds itself with excess electrons, and it will choose which assets it's going to dispatch.

Tax law convoluted, I think distorting tax law sometimes causes renewables to be dispatched ahead of baseload generation because of the tax credits. And then there are just other times when the weather turns out to be really mild or other things happen and TVA just doesn't need the electrons. So as we sit on the backside of this, we're subject to power plant being up and running and TVA needing the electrons. Our history is our history. The forecast is based on what are we hearing from our customer in TVA. But the indications that we get are general and not specific day by day or week by week. And so it can change from that.

Our current expectation is what it is, and we're just going to have to see how that plays out with the power plants and TVA with respect to electrons. Does that explain it?

Douglas Weiss: Yes. Yes. No, that's helpful. And as far as the receivable, it doesn't sound like from a practical standpoint, there's much in the near term to be done on that, except wait for the plant to come to be more fully utilized.

John Butler: I can tell you, it's -- we're paying a lot of attention to it. We're keenly focused on it. And we're -- as we have, we will continue to enforce and pursue the clear rights to remedy that we've got in our contract. [indiscernible] 1995, it runs until 2032. It's been the same contract throughout. So we're pretty familiar with the terms.

Douglas Weiss: Right, right. Okay. Let's see. I had a kind of bigger picture or longer-term question on power production in North Dakota. I was reading about proposals to extend the pipeline from the Bakken across North Dakota. I'm just curious how likely you think those projects are to go forward or that project is to go forward? And if that would have potentially introduced new gas-fired competition into the region over the next -- I guess, really over the next decade.

John Butler: Well, so the pipeline -- I mean, there's multiple pipeline projects being discussed up there in North Dakota. We're not a party to that. So it's hard for me to really comment on the likelihood or any of that. I can tell you that it's an incredibly energy-rich state with tremendous coal and oil reserves and then the associated natural gas that comes with the oil. The state is an energy exporter. And I think there's lots of opportunities for the North Dakota generation industry to support more generation. There's a lot of data. There's a lot of other demand in the upper Midwest that can be served.

And I don't know -- I don't think that we really view many of those projects as real competition for us. Doug, at the same time, there's also a lot of transmission being developed. Just as there's various stages of pipelines being developed, there's a lot of transmission work underway in the upper Midwest, North Dakota and beyond, which you can -- I think of transmission like a highway system. If you didn't keep expanding your highway system, you'd end up with congestion. But if you keep expanding your highway system, which in this case is transmission, you don't really have the congestion problems and the electrons can get to the markets they need.

Douglas Weiss: Okay. As you continue your reinvestment program, I'm curious, and I've asked this from time to time, but I'm curious if you are seeing better returns in contract mining or oil and gas or mitigation resources. I'm just curious if you have one of those segments where you are beginning to feel like is the most fruitful place for you to reinvest your capital?

John Butler: Well, I mean, it's an interesting question. It's one we think about a lot. We -- I would say is we've been on this reinvestment journey for about over 10 years now with most emphasis coming in the last 5. And I would say is each of our core businesses, as we've been working on investment thesis and business model, we keep refining those models, and we keep finding ways where we can capture efficiencies in our own operations, which enhance margins. We have modified contract structures. We've evolved our customer engagement and our customer relationships in ways that are mutually beneficial for them and for us.

And if we can deliver more value to them, that's a good thing for us. And I kind of think of that across all of our core businesses. And over time, we are seeing new ways to enhance each of those. So that's -- I mean, that's one part of the answer. The other part of the answer is I'm a big believer, we're big believers that each of these businesses, these core businesses has its own attributes that make it attractive to us on its own, but it's also useful to us as part of the collective whole. Our mining business and our mitigation business very clearly benefits from the work that's done in our coal mining business.

Honestly, our coal mining business and our mitigation business are benefiting from some things that we're doing on the North American mining side, and it's -- they're all helping each other. We call it a one-team approach. So there's synergies in all of these. And then I guess the third way I think about this is about the importance of diversification. We're seeing an energy renaissance in the United States around fossil fuels. But I want to make sure that we're doing things that are complementary to that -- to those businesses so that we've got strength if for whatever reason, the political forces really turn back against us.

I think that basic consumer demands and industrial demand for electrons are going to help us in that way. There's been a big shift in sentiment the last several years around more generation, not less. But I think the improving business models, the synergies between the businesses and the desire for diversification to create a more stable, very long-term platform for us lead us to believe that it's really in the best interest of the company and its shareholders to take a diversified approach. So that's really how we think about the balanced approach to investing that we've been making.

Douglas Weiss: Right. Yes, makes sense. Looking at your customers on the contract mining side, it does skew towards Cemex at the moment. How much of a priority is it for you to broaden the customer mix over the next few years?

John Butler: Yes, that's a great question. So there's a number of factors at play in this industry. One is we've already got relationships with a number of the large -- the big players. If you think about aggregate production in the United States or cement production, we're doing business with some of the very largest names. We are finding that we are getting more opportunities to do business with them because they see the work that we do at one quarry or a couple of quarries and they ask us if we would come take a look at another place where they're operating and give them our thoughts on what we could do to help them.

And not in every instance, but in a number of instances, that turns into additional projects. We're about to start operating a dragline later this year in Phoenix, Arizona for an existing customer. And that relationship, that contract and operating at that quarry came about exactly in that way because we were already doing business with one of the big players. That said, we're also -- we find that there's geographic relationships. We started in South Florida with one very successful long-term aggregates producer. And over time, we ended up doing business with a number of people in South Florida.

As we went up into Central Florida, which was our first foray about 10 years ago with 1 or 2 quarry relationships, that's now expanded, and we're pushing into other areas across the United States as it seems appropriate. And most of that expansion has happened through our Dragline services, where we're providing the mining services for their operations. But for the last few years, we've also been using Wirtgen surface miners in test cases with other operators in other parts of the state, and we're seeing some success. In some instances, it's done what we thought it would do with the customer, but we all approached it as an experiment.

And sometimes it's like, okay, well, we all learn something. But another instance, it's like, okay, well, that was really interesting here. Can you guys take that piece of equipment to a different quarry and try it there because we think it's got real potential. So we're seeing lots of opportunities to grow because of the relationships and contracts we've got as well as just being in the neighborhood. It's one of the reasons I'm so enthusiastic about being in the western part of the United States with this Phoenix quarry as well as our Limerock business -- sorry, lithium. We have too many minerals that start with L, our lithium operation in Northern Nevada.

And I guess the other way that we expand is by finding new ways to apply our skills. The Palm Beach County, Florida project, where we've got a couple of draglines up and running now. We're in the process of commissioning a third dragline, and we've got a fourth dragline that will be up and running later this year. Putting 4 draglines on 1 project is a really big deal. We're very excited about that. It's going well. We're still ramping up our operations as we go along, but we feel very good about the trajectory we're on.

To me, one of the really exciting things about this is we are not mining the aggregates, the limerock here for sales as construction materials by an aggregates producer. This is being used by our customer in a big infrastructure project related to Lake Okeechobee and the Everglades in really infrastructure development. Well, that's kind of opened up a new market for us in ways that we didn't -- we really hadn't figured out how to tap into this market.

And this relationship, I think, is going to give us at least opportunities to explore other ways to apply our skills to help other people that might be in a different part of the work that we do, we can help them with the same kind of services, but in a different way. We're not mining aggregates for sale. We're mining aggregates to support the development of the infrastructure directly. So I talk about this as investment horizon as we touch more places in this business, it gives us more opportunities for growth. And I think that's going to turn into -- we're already seeing them turn into expanded opportunities for growth in the future.

Very long-winded answer, but it's one I'm really excited about.

Douglas Weiss: Yes. No, that's great. Just circling quickly on Mississippi lignite and maybe you don't want to comment too much on legal issues. But I'm just curious if you're able to articulate what recourse you have a little more granularly? Are you -- do you have more recourse than a typical unsecured creditor?

John Butler: We -- I mean, you're right. I'm not going to comment on legal strategies. But we have, I think, a pretty clear understanding of our contractual rights and other points of leverage in this relationship. And we are very active in understanding those and knowing what those levers are and how those can be deployed. But I really -- I don't think it'd be appropriate for me to comment further than that.

Douglas Weiss: Enough. Congrats again on the good quarter and look forward to speaking in 3 months.

John Butler: Doug, we appreciate your ongoing interest. Thanks for your questions.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] With no further questions in queue, I will now turn the call back over to Christy Kmetko for closing remarks.

Christina Kmetko: Okay. Thank you. We'll end the Q&A session there. Before we wrap up, I'd just like to provide a few reminders. A replay of our call will be available later this morning. We'll also post a transcript on our website when it becomes available. If you have any questions, please reach out to me. My phone number is on the earnings release. I hope you enjoy the rest of your day. And I'll turn it back to Tina to conclude the call. Thank you so much.

Operator: Thank you again for joining us today. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.