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Five9 Inc (NASDAQ:FIVN)
Q3 2020 Earnings Call
Oct 29, 2020, 4:30 p.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to Five9's Q3 FY 2020 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions].

And at this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Lisa Laukkanen. Please go ahead.

Lisa Laukkanen -- Investor Relations

Thank you for joining us today. On the call are Rowan Trollope, CEO; Dan Burkland, President; and Barry Zwarenstein, CFO. Certain statements made during the course of this conference call are not historical facts, including those regarding the future financial performance of the company, industry trends, company initiatives and the proposed acquisition of Inference, and the timing and expected benefits thereof and other future events are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements are simply predictions, should not be unduly relied upon by investors. Actual events or results may differ materially, and the company undertakes no obligation to update the information in such statements.

These statements are subject to substantial risks and uncertainties that could adversely affect Five9's future results and cause these forward-looking statements to be inaccurate, including the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic; that the closing of the Inference acquisition subject to certain closing conditions; that the transaction may not close when expected or at all; and that the total purchase price is subject to various purchase price adjustments as well as whether or not certain earn-out metrics are satisfied; and the other risks discussed under the caption Risk Factors and elsewhere in Five9's annual and quarterly reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition, management will make reference to non-GAAP financial measures during this call. A discussion of why we use non-GAAP financial measures and information regarding reconciliation of our GAAP versus non-GAAP results is currently available in our press release issued earlier this afternoon as well as in the appendix of our Investor Relations deck -- of our investor deck and available in the Investor Relations section on Five9's website at five9.com.

And now I'd like to turn the call over to Five9's CEO, Rowan Trollope.

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Lisa, and thanks to everyone for joining our call this afternoon. I'm thrilled to report outstanding performance in the third quarter driven by continued strong execution, positive industry trends and constant product innovation. We reported record third quarter revenue of $112.1 million, accelerating to 34% year-over-year growth and 12% sequential growth, both of which are all-time highs as a public company. Enterprise subscription revenue grew 35% on an LTM basis. And on the bottom line, adjusted EBITDA margin was 21.5%, also a Q3 record for Five9. And we continued to experience strong bookings across the boards for both commercial and enterprise with our existing customers and with new logos. In addition to these excellent financial results, we're also very excited to announce a definitive agreement to acquire Inference, a leading provider of intelligent virtual agents and a partner we've been successfully going to market with. Inference accelerates the Five9 AI portfolio to provide effective digital labor, driving a new level of efficiency for contact centers.

IVAs use conversational AI, enabling natural dialogue between computers and humans and are a major evolution from touchtone or voice-activated IVRs, which depended upon structured, fixed grammar interactions. These more accurate and user-friendly IVAs result in significant savings through increased call deflection rates, better informed agents or both. With its proven IVA technology, the Inference acquisition will position Five9 to take advantage of the trend toward increased automation of mundane contact center tasks. Having an IVA is fast becoming a fundamental requirement in enterprise deals as demand continues to increase on contact centers, especially in this COVID-driven environment. And it can no longer be addressed in service by simply hiring more agents. What customers are requiring is digital labor, as provided by solutions like IVAs, to meet the increased demand and enhance their customer experience. A great recent example is the logistics company deal that we talked about last quarter. The company helps state government and managed healthcare organizations with transportation services.

The deal, which was one of our largest ever, started out with an IVA focus through Inference, our partner at the time, and mushroomed into a full contact center solution. With Inference, they're able to trigger automatic booking confirmations, SMS reminders, status of rides as well as follow-up surveys and more. And Dan in a few moments will provide more examples when he talks about our third quarter deals. We selected Inference for a number of reasons. First, they are a market leader in this emerging category, both from a technology and from a market share perspective per industry analyst firm, DMG Consulting. Inference is deployed worldwide with customers in Asia Pacific, Europe and North America. Second, it's disruptive. Most current IVA solutions are either professional services-centric, which are available only to the mega enterprises with huge implementation budgets, or they're developer-centric. The Inference solution, on the other hand, could be deployed in days with minimal people involved, offering the best of both worlds. Third and finally, we see very considerable go-to-market synergies. A large number of Tier 1, two and three telecom providers around the world, including AT&T in North America and Telstra in Australia, trust Inference.

And we see considerable opportunities to leverage the Inference global presence and introduce them to our partners, including systems integrators, VARs and other resellers. We've been delighted by customer demand and acceptance of the Inference solution, and this is one of those moments where new technology is reaching maturity at a time when the market demand is increasing, which creates a great opportunity for Five9 with Inference. We expect to close the inference acquisition no later than January 5, 2021, and Barry will talk more about the financial impact in his section. Having introduced inference, I'll now turn to discuss the underlying market drivers for our strong performance. First, the transition to the cloud continues unabated, including for larger enterprises, and we believe will continue for many years to come. Second, it's become imperative to digitize customer experience as part of a company's overall digital transformation. Third, these two megatrends, the move to the cloud and digital transformation, have been accelerated by COVID-19. We see this in the significant increase in the demand for agents in general, and in particular, the demand for agents working from home, with a mutual benefit to businesses and agents.

And finally, fourth, as I will elaborate upon in a moment, the demand of AI-driven automation is clearly increasing. In short, as we all know full well, the new front door for many types of businesses, from yoga gear to e-learning, telemedicine to electronics and so on, is the contact center. And we believe that this front door will open wider in the future. I'd now like to discuss our go-to-market approach and highlight our key achievements. Over the last few years, our GTM approach has become more balanced, with our extremely successful direct approach being complemented with master agents; with VARs and distributors; with systems integrators; and finally, with service providers. Our investments in these complementary areas are clearly paying dividends, as you can see from the following examples. First, our SI momentum continues. Once again this quarter, our SI bookings more than doubled compared to last year, and we anticipate our SI bookings to finish 2020 at more than triple what they were in 2019. We're also now significantly more diversified by SI partner than we were last year. Second, we're very pleased with the performance of our AT&T partnership. Following AT&T's rapid onboarding and the successful launch of AT&T cloud contact center, we're now jointly delivering initial customer deployments and quickly growing our global pipeline together.

And finally, third, we continue to enjoy significant international traction. Our products localized for multiple languages is enabled with in-country connectivity to a host of local carriers and is supported by in-region support personnel and partners. Moreover, we've successfully migrated our platform to run on Google Cloud Platform and deployed two new instances in Canada in addition to our data centers in London and Amsterdam. We're experiencing the momentum from our international marketing strategy, which includes thought leadership programs, regional programs around awareness and demand generation as well as partner enablement and amplification. Our growing international presence was also evident at our recent CX Summit, where we saw a strong international participation with 54 countries represented. And finally, some metrics. Although the numbers are still admittedly somewhat small, our international momentum continues with record bookings in EMEA and Latin America, with EMEA growing 3 times and Latin America growing four times year-over-year in Q3.

I'll now turn to focus on our product execution and leadership. Here, our emphasis is on portfolio expansion to increase our average revenue per user, which complements our growth via logo addition. The tool, of course, takes some time to manifest in our financial results, but we're very encouraged by the strong positive feedback of our customers and partners on the capabilities we're delivering. To achieve this ARPU growth, we're focusing both on product evolution and innovation and are making great progress on both fronts. So with respect to evolution, here are three recent highlights. First, our most recent release included over 135 new features with significant focus on digital channels. Second, our recently acquired VO business is doing extremely well, posting record bookings in Q3. The first version of integration into the Five9 platform has been completed, and further enhancements are under way. Finally, third, we broadened and deepened our CRM and UC integrations. We're especially pleased with our recently GA-ed Zoom Phone and Microsoft Teams adaptors. We're also seeing excellent early traction on the innovation front. So here are some examples. First, VoiceStream. VoiceStream is a media-streaming API, enabling the building of apps that access real-time call audio. These apps will enable businesses to do things such as authenticating a caller's identity to voice biometrics, effectively coaching agents while they're on a call, utilizing speech and sentiment analysis and much more.

This will help contact centers improve agent performance while also delivering a better end-customer experience. And with VoiceStream, Five9 is taking a unique approach, implementing it in our own products while also creating a platform capability that makes it easier for our partners to build AI apps for the contact center. Second, we announced the release of Agent Assist, which captures in realtime call transcripts and generates accurate time-saving called Summaries, which automatically sync with the CRM platform and greatly improve agent efficiency. Agent Assist uses innovative natural language processing technology developed by Five9 and has already had remarkable reception for such a pioneering product. Third, as I mentioned earlier, we now also have Inference, which will help us take a meaningful step in meeting industry demands while increasing ARPU. Given a virtual agent is priced at up to $400 per virtual seat per month, roughly double our current ARPU per human seat.

So stay tuned for much more to come. In conclusion, we believe we are very well positioned for continued strong growth. With clockwork-like execution, our team continues to focus on go-to-market initiatives and capitalize on the significant tailwinds in the market. We have a tremendous market opportunity, with only 15% cloud penetration of the $24 billion contact center software market. Moreover, we see the opportunity to potentially more than double our current TAM with labor arbitrage through the deployment of automation technologies. Our acquisition of Inference is the first step to realizing the arbitrage opportunity. And given these favorable market trends and the proven ability to execute, we continue to believe that we can maintain 30s level enterprise subscription growth for quite some time.

With that, I'd now like to turn it over to our President, Dan Burkland. Dan?

Daniel Burkland -- President

Thank you, Rowan. We continue to set records in bookings and contribution from our channel partners and systems integrators. Our enterprise net new team booked a record for any Q3, nearly eclipsing Q2, which you will recall was an all-time record. Over 60% of our deals continue to be influenced by partners. And our pipeline continues to grow to an all-time high, once again, reaching more than double what it was just a year ago. As Rowan mentioned, our go-to-market machine, along with our key investments in channels and international, are providing us accelerated momentum, as you can see from our results. Now I'd like to share some key wins from the quarter. The first is a technology company,, which provides software to financial and healthcare organizations for IT, HR and accounting. They had been using Amazon Connect for about six months when they determined the path to delivering their CX vision would require extensive investment, additional resources and an elongated time frame.

So they decided to abandon the project and start fresh with a more complete cloud solution. They selected Five9 due to our end-to-end CX offering, including, first, our deep integration to their ServiceNow CRM; second, our IVA-powered by Inference to replace an outdated speech-enabled IVR, where callers can receive intelligent self-service; third, if opting out to speak to an agent, all the IVA journey data is passed to the agent for personalization, never requiring the caller to repeat information; fourth, we are providing real-time speech analytics from our Virtual Observer acquisition to alert supervisors of calls in-flight, which are in need of assistance to immediately improve the customer experience. As a result, this customer expects to save over 70 seconds in handle time per call on the more than 30,000 calls they process each day. We anticipate this initial order will result in approximately $2.7 million in annual recurring revenue to Five9. The second key win is an automobile insurance company for specialty and collectible vehicles. They had been using an on-premises Genesys system, which lacked the deep integration to their Salesforce CRM and had no integration to their Zoom Phone UC solution.

This is also an excellent example of a customer looking for an end-to-end solution to truly transform their CX vision. This customer is implementing the following key features: first, our Five9 AI product, Agent Assist, for transcription and summarization of calls to be inserted into their various CRM systems, including Salesforce, ServiceNow, Insuresoft and a homegrown solution; second, our IVA solution powered by Inference for intelligent self-service; third, our secure pay for PCI compliance; fourth, our engagement workflow and routing of Salesforce chat and email; fifth, visual IVR for customers to interact from any mobile device; sixth, the Five9 Virtual Observer QM and speech analytics; and last, our Zoom Phone integration, where agents can have a shared directory, see status of Zoom users and perform seamless consultative transfers. We anticipate this initial order will result in over $1.9 million in annual recurring revenue to Five9. The third example is one of the nation's leading providers of credit and lending programs for consumers. They, too, found that adding legacy point solutions over the years had created islands of technology and silos of data with little or no integration between them. So they embarked on a process to find a complete CX solution.

Five9 was selected from all the typical competitors for the completeness of our offering, along with our modern SaaS microservices architecture, which gives them hundreds of APIs and to ensure integration and the ability to share data across many disparate systems. This customer is leveraging performance dashboards, QM, speech analytics, and WFM from our Virtual Observer WFO suite. They also found Five9 was the only provider who could truly blend inbound and outbound calling, allowing the system to dynamically pace their outbound campaign dialing based on observing the rate of inbound call traffic. This is designed to maximize the utilization of their agents while also minimizing wait times for inbound callers. We anticipate this initial order will result in approximately $2.8 million in annual recurring revenue to Five9. And now as I normally do, I'd like to share an example of an existing customer who is expanding their use of Five9. This healthcare company providing patient journey and decision-making data to pharmaceutical, biotech and medical device companies became a Five9 customer in 2019.

And we served a single department's contact center needs. Not only did they recognize the benefits of moving to a single technology platform, but they also found a significant difference in the support they received from Five9. They are now moving the rest of their departments and agents from competing solutions over to Five9, where they will also get the benefit of a technical account manager, responsible for continuous optimization of the solution across all of their departments. This customer will go from just under $500,000 in annual spend to over $1 million in annual recurring revenue and join our growing list of $1 million ARR customers. As you can see, more than ever, Five9 is delivering a comprehensive next-generation CX platform that is helping enterprises transform how they, in turn, deliver a more intelligent, personalized and agile experience to their customers.

And now I'd like to hand it over to Barry to share our financials. Barry?

Barry Zwarenstein -- Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Dan. Before going into specifics, I remind you that unless otherwise indicated, all financial figures I will discuss are non-GAAP. Reconciliations from GAAP to non-GAAP results are included in the appendix of our investor presentation on our website. We are very pleased with the top and bottom line results, which far exceeded our expectations. As Rowan mentioned earlier, revenue grew 34% year-over-year and 12% sequentially, both all-time highs for any quarter as a public company. This record growth was driven primarily by our Enterprise business, where subscription revenue increased 35% year-over-year on an LTM basis. Enterprise makes up 82% of LTM revenue, and our commercial business represents the remaining 18%. Note that our commercial business continues to be resilient, growing year-over-year in the teens. Recurring revenue accounted for 93% of our revenue. The other 7% of our revenue was comprised of Professional Services.

LTM dollar-based retention rate increased to 107% from 105% last quarter. As a reminder, our continued success in winning larger and larger enterprise customers is expected to continue causing fluctuations in our dollar-based retention rate and in our enterprise subscription growth rates as they come onto the platform at different times and ramp at different rates. Third quarter adjusted gross margins were 65.4%, an increase of approximately 140 basis points year-over-year. Third quarter adjusted EBITDA was $24.1 million, representing a 21.5% margin, which was a Q3 record. This is an increase of approximately 350 basis points year-over-year. Third quarter non-GAAP net income was $18.5 million, an increase of $5.7 million year-over-year. Non-GAAP EPS for the third quarter was $0.27 per diluted share, up $0.07 year-over-year. With regards to the balance sheet and cash flow highlights, DSO was 31 days in the third quarter. Third quarter operating cash flow was an all-time record of $22.8 million, maintaining our LTM operating cash flow margin in the teens for the last 10 consecutive quarters. We remain optimistic about our potential for continuing cash flow generation given our long-term model, our substantial NOLs and our low DSOs.

And now for some specifics about the Inference acquisition. Five9 has agreed to acquire Inference for $148 million in cash, subject to certain purchase price adjustments, with additional cash payments of up to $24 million upon certain earn-out provisions being met. I'd like to finish today's prepared remarks with a brief discussion of our expectations for the fourth quarter and the full year 2020, which do not include any impact from Inference if the transaction were to close in the fourth quarter rather than in the first days of January. I will also provide some initial comments on 2021, in particular, about the financial impact of acquiring Inference and especially the quarterly profile of the bottom line. First, fourth quarter and 2020. We are guiding fourth quarter revenues to a midpoint of $115 million, which represents a 3% sequential increase over a particularly strong third quarter and 25% year-over-year growth. For 2020, we are raising the midpoint of our annual revenue guidance from $400 million to $422 million, which represents an increase in the year-over-year growth rate of 22% to 29%.

As for the bottom line, we are guiding fourth quarter non-GAAP net income to a midpoint of $16.5 million, which represents a $2 million quarter-over-quarter decrease that is within the range of sequential decline that we have guided to in prior fourth quarters. This sequential decline is primarily driven by our substantial ongoing investment in key strategic areas, particularly in go-to-market and R&D. Despite these investments, we are raising the midpoint of our annual non-GAAP net income guidance from $53.7 million to $60.2 million. Taking into account these investments and other items that are detailed in our GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation, we are guiding GAAP net loss to a midpoint of $14 million in Q4 and $48.9 million in 2020. I would now like to provide insight into our current thinking for 2021. While we're not providing formal guidance at this stage, we can provide some high-level commentary. For those of you who have been following Five9 for some time, you know that we have in the past always started the new year with prudent revenue guidance of 16% year-over-year growth at the midpoint, mainly due to the uncertainties around the magnitude of the seasonal impact on our business. For 2021, we currently estimate a higher-than-typical year-over-year growth rate of 18% from the midpoint of our 2020 revenue guidance, primarily due to the additional revenue contribution we are estimating from Inference, driving total revenue outlook for the year to reach approximately $500 million.

We also expect revenue to continue following our typical pattern, with slightly more than 50% of our annual revenue being generated in the seasonally stronger second half of 2021. With respect to 2021 non-GAAP net income, please note that Inference will be dilutive to our bottom line. In addition, we plan to continue investing in go-to-market and R&D initiatives to maintain the momentum of our core business in this COVID-driven environment. As a result, we expect non-GAAP net income in 2021 to be approximately the same as the midpoint of our 2020 guidance at $60.2 million. In addition, we would like to provide a more explicit outlook on the quarterly profile of our bottom line. We currently expect non-GAAP net income to be approximately $8 million in Q1; flat in Q2; progressively better in Q3; and especially strong in Q4, which is always our strongest quarter. We would like to remind you that we remain committed to achieving our long-term EBITDA margin target of 27% in approximately four years. Finally, here are the customary estimates for modeling purposes.

For calculating EPS, we expect our diluted shares to be 72.2 million and basic shares to be 67.8 million for the fourth quarter of 2020 and 68.6 million and 64.6 million, respectively, for the full year 2020. We expect our taxes, which relate mainly to foreign subsidiaries, to be approximately $120,000 for the fourth quarter of 2020 and $570,000 for the full year 2020. Our capital expenditures for the fourth quarter of 2020 are expected to total approximately $10 million to $11 million. For the full year 2020, we expect our capital expenditures to be between $31.5 million and $32.5 million. At the midpoint, this represents approximately 7.5% of our guided revenue for the year, which is higher than our historical average of 6%, primarily driven by international expansion and the build-out of our new headquarters. In summary, we are very pleased with our third quarter performance, achieving all-time records on multiple metrics. We are also excited to expand our already massive plan by acquiring Inference to capitalize on the opportunity of automating the mundane task in the contact center.

And we remain laser-focused on making strategic investments to drive further momentum in our business. Operator, please go ahead.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll take the first question today from Sterling Auty with JPMorgan.

Sterling Auty -- JPMorgan -- Analyst

So Rowan, are you in the same room as Barry?

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

No. We're not. We're at our homes.

Sterling Auty -- JPMorgan -- Analyst

Oh, because I just -- I would just say, you need to reach over and make sure that he's OK because every quarter since the IPO, I'm pretty sure anyway, the guidance for the next quarter at most is up like $600,000. So to see a $3 million roughly increase sequentially in the guidance and it's not including your Inference acquisition, it definitely seems like something must have changed. And the reason that I ask is, obviously, we're seeing the tailwinds from COVID and the rest of it. But am I reading it right, is there actually a sea change in terms of the momentum in the business? And given all the parameters that you've given, what really has changed the most since we talked 90 days ago on the June quarter call?

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

I'll let Barry depend himself on that one. Barry?

Barry Zwarenstein -- Chief Financial Officer

So let me assure you, Sterling, I'm feeling very well, but thank you for your concern. So what we're seeing is -- we're seeing very strong momentum. The Enterprise business on all fronts, not just the new logos that we typically in the past have talked about, but also in the installed base and on the commercial side, which Dan can talk about more if you want. The seat turnups were a record during the quarter. Our PS organization performed flawlessly. And churn declined post-COVID. And things just went extremely well pretty much across the board.

Operator

And we'll take the next question from Meta Marshall with Morgan Stanley.

Karan Juvekar -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

This is Karan Juvekar on for Meta. Just a quick question on Inference. Are there any particular verticals that this solution is best built for today? And who would be responsible for creating those vertical-specific solutions? Would it be you guys or them?

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. So I think the first thing to point out about Inference is that it's really built for mass deployment. It's unlike really anything else out there. The legacy in this space requires professional services. And this is a tool that finally allows just about any company to get the power of IVAs. I'll let Dan comment on -- we've actually been selling this product and had a partnership with them preexisting. So we've already got some experience with it. And we shared on the earnings call, the logistics example there and some others. But Dan, any comments on industry verticals where you think this might be more or less fit?

Daniel Burkland -- President

Yes. I think -- and thank you. All the typical verticals that we see for contact center, which is really a very horizontal application that goes into just about any type of business, one that receives calls from its customers, right? And so when you look at consumer products, whether it's healthcare, financial services, retail, technology, what IVAs accomplish and what they're there for is really to handle customers that don't need to speak to a human, that want to get self-serviced, but still have an open-ended number of questions they may be asking. So they're going to have -- so think of it as a conversation, not with a human but with the system, and the system can go affect the answer and come back and provide the answer. And what's unique here is, if you think about historically where IVRs plays -- placed, they were placed across all industries, right?

And IVRs started out with touchtone choices, then they evolved into some very limited speech recognition, where you was listening for a very succinct list of grammars or questions. And now it's very conversational and open-ended. So think of it as the next-generation of IVR, if you will, and that can be applied in so many different places. Two of the examples I shared earlier were -- are using Inference. And so yes, it can be applied just about as widespread as we apply our other contact center solutions. That's one of the reasons we're so enthusiastic about this acquisition.

Operator

We'll now go to David Hynes with Canaccord.

David Hynes -- Canaccord -- Analyst

Congrats on the strong results. I don't know if this is better for Rowan or Dan, but I'm curious what a fully loaded ARPU looks like these days. I may have my numbers off, so correct me. But I think we've talked about in the past like the typical sales $200 to $250 a seat with a max that goes all the way up to $400. You guys have added a ton of products. So I'm curious how we should think about that now. And I realize it probably gets a little bit messy with that labor arbitrage opportunity that you talked about. But any kind of framework would be helpful.

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. I'll take that one. It's pretty clean here, and the numbers haven't changed much as you -- from what we shared last time. But in that $200 and -- I think we're currently -- our average is in the $200 and change number, $204, $205, and a fully loaded ARPU, which is the original question. You bought everything in our portfolio, you're talking around $400 per month per agent. And just to put things into context, to deploy an on-premise solution with the same level of redundancy and availability and scale and the capability that we can deliver in our portfolio is cost more than $400, $400 $500, $600, $700, even to get there. And on the second part -- so where we are on that is, as you point out, we've been expanding our portfolio, bringing in Virtual Observer and so on. Those are really owned by Five9, but we have -- we were already selling those products on Five9 paper.

And so you're not seeing a drift up in the ARPU number from us at this point. Now the Inference is a different story. Inference is actually very simple. It doesn't make us any more complicated. Instead of selling per human seat, we sell per digital seat and sort of concurrent digital seat. And those will sell for $400 -- or up to $400 per digital agent per month. And so it's roughly double what we could -- what we are expecting to get from our traditional software that we sell for the human agents. And from a customer's perspective, the benefit there is, of course, they're not paying the labor cost and -- the salary or labor cost for the employee. So they actually see some pretty significant savings by moving to digital season.

Operator

We'll now go Terry Tillman with Truist Securities.

Terry Tillman -- Truist Securities -- Analyst

Yes. [Indecipherable] my question because [Indecipherable] with the guidance [Indecipherable] [Technical Issues]

Daniel Burkland -- President

Terry, this is Dan. You're cutting out. If you wouldn't mind either starting over or we can come back to you?

Terry Tillman -- Truist Securities -- Analyst

How is this? Is this better?

Daniel Burkland -- President

Much better. Thank you.

Terry Tillman -- Truist Securities -- Analyst

Well, I was going to have a great kind of preamble there, and it's going to be hopefully witty about Barry and the guidance for 2021, but I'll just move ahead with my question. But in terms of the international business, I think when Barry was talking about the guidance and strategic investments into 2021, I'd love to learn a little bit more about maybe, is there a greater wing into the international side? And the second part of that one question is just, maybe Rowan or Dan just, consumption and what you're seeing with the international business. Do they buy a more strategic or piecemeal? So just would like to hear more about international and the opportunity.

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Sure. Yes. A key part of our growth strategy is we have been investing, particularly in Latin America, Canada and Western Europe. And we're starting to see that pay off. As we shared, the pipeline is up three and four times in Western Europe and Latin America, respectively. So we're seeing tremendous interest. We've also signed some really exciting new partners over there, some of the market leaders and have been hiring, opening offices. As you know, we've been primarily U.S., but a couple of years ago, we did begin to make those expansion moves and investments. And they have taken some time to really kick in, but I think we're starting to see it now contribute to the overall top line. And we'll see that continue. In terms of the differences in Europe and elsewhere, we do see very similar situations in Western Europe to the U.S.

There's slightly more complexity from a back-end perspective because of local country telco regulation and data residency. We've chosen GCP, as I think we said in the script -- the earnings script earlier that we've selected GCP and deployed that now in Canada, and now we're moving to -- next to Amsterdam. And so that's an important part of the strategy as well. But the dynamics in Western Europe are very similar. Latin America, very similar as well. We've seen very, very strong growth there. And so our playbook, if you will, is working -- sort of our growth playbook is working equally well in both of those regions.

Operator

We'll take the next question from Raimo Lenschow with Barclays.

Raimo Lenschow -- Barclays -- Analyst

Congrats from me as well. I actually checked back. I think it was like Q2 2013 when you last grew 34%, 35%. So well done. Congratulations on that as well. The -- can I go back to the partners? Like you mentioned on the European side, the partners, but can I also see in terms of U.S. partners? Like it seems to me because the partnerships are not that all that we should actually only be at the beginning of a journey rather than like in the middle of it, can you just talk to me a little bit like how that's -- how the whole partner relationships are evolving at the moment?

Daniel Burkland -- President

Yes. This is Dan. Thanks, Raimo. Great question. And as Rowan mentioned, the market's pretty similar to the U.S. We went there and kind of put a flag on the ground a few years ago and embarked on a direct focus, really to just establish ourselves in the Western European market. And once doing so, we brought on additional management with the experience of building out a channels organization. I think as we've mentioned before, Brian Atkinson joined our team over a year ago. He's been building that team out, and he has the experience and the relationships to build out a channels group. Lot -- depending on the country and depending on the region, there's a strong propensity for buyers to turn to local channels, to local organizations or their carriers in that space.

And so we're working very closely with some of the large carriers or service providers as well as signing up lots of VARs and regional distributors like Connect. Connect is one of the distributors that's been carrying our product there in Western Europe and doing a great, great job with us. So seeing great momentum across the board. The percentages of growth are significant compared to what we're seeing here, but we are working off of smaller numbers. So in the 30s and 40s as far as the growth rates in those markets. So very pleased with our progress there, and we'll continue to invest as the opportunity presents itself.

Operator

We'll now go to Matt VanVliet with BTIG.

Matt VanVliet -- BTIG -- Analyst

Congrats on another solid quarter here. I guess looking at the partnership and that viewpoint a little bit differently. You highlighted a lot of early success on the AT&T front. Maybe just help us think about kind of what those typical opportunities are looking like in -- with that partnership and how maybe additional conversations are going with some of their rivals as they've seen this gain momentum so quickly?

Daniel Burkland -- President

Yes. So that's great. Thanks, Matt. This is Dan. The AT&T partnership is going extremely well, not only building up pipeline, but as we talked about at the beginning of the year, we started onboarding their staff, training them, getting the pipeline built. And we're starting to see the fruits of that labor come through from a revenue perspective. As we talked, it's going to move the needle significantly more in 2021 than it will here in 2020. And -- but we're seeing significant growth there. And the pipeline is exceeding our expectations. When we look at the deals themselves, it runs the gamut. They don't discriminate from very large enterprises that they work with and have control of to smaller commercial-sized businesses. So we're seeing contribution into our -- not only pipeline but into our bookings pretty much across the board, including our commercial business.

Operator

And we'll go to Alex Kurtz, KeyBanc.

Mike -- KeyBanc -- Analyst

This is Mike [Phonetic] on for Alex. And congrats on the deal. Now considering this deal will increase your competitive positioning, I want to ask about the opportunity with Cisco. Our [Indecipherable] today are introducing a new pricing framework for collaboration early next year called Flex 3.0. And that will move over time customers to subscription. Do you see this as an opportunity for Five9? And can you create programs around this as customers look to other solutions?

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. This is Rowan. Thanks for the question. Cisco has been doing a great job of evolving that Flex pricing strategy and sort of making it easy to switch customers to a subscription-based offer. But the reality is that they still don't have a CCaaS offer, and that's what customers really want. And so we're -- we've been steadily helping those customers move on to our platform, and they've been very happy to do that. And I think that's going to continue, but I would never count Cisco out. I'm sure they've got more tricks up their sleeve down the road.

Operator

And our next question will come from Michael Turrin with Wells Fargo Securities.

Michael Turrin -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

I want to talk more about the move upmarket given we're finding more proof points around your success there. I know it's probably tough to quantify, but can you maybe share your thoughts around how much of that is driven by the shift toward cloud and some of the partner relationships you've established versus some of the capabilities you've been adding, things like workforce optimization, AI, soon to be Inference, which can help explain that? But any further color on the move upmarket is useful.

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. It's been pretty good.

Daniel Burkland -- President

Yes. So it's been -- go ahead.

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Go ahead, Dan.

Daniel Burkland -- President

No. That's OK.

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

I'll say it's been pretty consistent move upmarket, as you've seen. And part of that's company is getting more comfortable with cloud and sort of seeing their peers go first. Their colleagues prove out that cloud can work for larger and larger customers and us, being sort of one of the leaders there that's helping bigger and bigger customers move to the cloud. Second, I think work-from-home is here to stay with COVID, which is really turbocharging the cloud transition. There's been a lot of sticky tape and bubble gum to get your on-prem solution working in a work-from-home mode. So this has been another factor that's driven the awareness to all-time highs among the enterprise buyers that, hey, cloud is the future. Of course, it's not just our industry. That recognition is coming from virtually every other sort of technology segment sort of moving to cloud. And we're still less than 15% penetrated. And I think you can see this quarter, our enterprise subscriptions, 35% now LTM growth on enterprise subscriptions. So it's growing very, very nicely. And we think that's going to continue. We continue to see larger and larger deals in our pipe and bigger and bigger customers sort of throwing in the towel on-prem and moving to cloud.

Michael Turrin -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

Nice job, team, on the results.

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Ryan MacWilliams with Stephens, Inc.

Ryan MacWilliams -- Stephens, Inc -- Analyst

Rowan, just on those upmarket deals, have you seen a sense of urgency this year to get those deals done given COVID? And then just since the start of COVID, any significant changes to the customer journey to adopting cloud contact center solutions? And what I'm trying to get at is, are you seeing more demand coming from collaboration platforms like Zoom or Microsoft Teams than before?

Daniel Burkland -- President

Yes. So Ryan, this is Dan. I'll take that one, but great question. And what I'll say is partly because of COVID, and Rowan has talked about the contact center really being the new front door to the business, right? And if that's the only conduit and the only way to communicate with your customers, more and more companies are recognizing that they've got to be able to deliver a customer experience across whatever medium the consumer chooses, right? So you want to be able to deliver IVAs and chat bots, i.e. why we looked at Inference and brought them on board. If you look at that, they want to have self-serve for many things. They also want to perhaps interact digitally, right? They want to use chat or email to communicate. So you've got to deliver a consistent experience there. And there are cases where people want to talk to a human being. They want to have a detailed conversation and an intimate conversation with that empathy and the human experience. So you've got to be able to build and cater your solutions to all of those. So when you say has it accelerated the decision process, I think in some cases, it has.

It certainly brought more decisions to the table. I think we're seeing that in our pipeline generation and the fact that our pipeline has accelerated. But you're also seeing -- and if you look back at those examples that I shared in the open -- beginning remarks, we'll find that the list of applications that they've purchased from us goes across the board in all those different areas. It's not just an ACD or just an IVR or just voice. It's really saying, "Hey, we've got to have IVAs and chat bots and workforce optimization, Agent Assist with AI." So they're looking at the broader portfolio more so than they had in the past. Part of that is due to the technology now being available, and part of it is due to the consumer requiring that companies build more flexible solutions.

Operator

Our next question will come from Scott Berg with Needham.

Scott Berg -- Needham -- Analyst

Congrats on continued starting momentum. I think the one question I'll probably get most tomorrow that's probably on everyone's mind is, how do you accelerate revenue growth roughly five points quarter-over-quarter on a year-over-year basis? If you look at all the drivers in the business, was there one area, enterprise, commercial, international partners, maybe usage that drove some extra revenue that caused such a sudden spike in the business? Or was it just a well-balanced execution from all the different areas?

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Barry will try for that. Thanks, Scott.

Barry Zwarenstein -- Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Rowan. Yes, Scott, it was very broad-based. When you look at it first enterprise and commercial, both did very, very strong. And we give enough data there for you to interpolate what those spot growth rates are, and you'll see that both did very well. And then if you look at it through the lens of subscription usage and PS, PS was actually quite lower than normal this particular quarter. But I wouldn't read anything into that because there's huge lumpiness there to look over the last three years. The ratio between the highest quarter and the lowest quarter ranges between two times and 3.5 times. So it comes up and down. But when you look then at subscription and the related usage, because the usage tracks the subscription, subscription is very strong across the company.

I will share with you that our growth rate on subscription in the quarter, the start growth rate was an all-time record. And with that, the usage that tracks it, especially since there's more enterprise started more efficiently, also were at a record. And it is a reflection of a very strong market overall. That -- the comment from Rowan about the new front door is real. We see it all in our personal lines. We're not doing the brick-and-mortar anywhere near as much as we used to. And for that, on -- the center of gravity shifts to online unique context in.

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Well said, Barry.

Scott Berg -- Needham -- Analyst

Congrats again.

Operator

We'll now take our next question from James Fish with Piper Sandler.

James Fish -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Guys, congrats on the quarter. Rowan, we talked about this at the Analyst Day a little bit, but you highlighted the demand for AI is increasing in your prepared remarks. But any update on the penetration of just one AI solution across your installed base at this point? And then Dan or Rowan, I guess, how are you thinking about the large contact centers of 5,000 seats or more in the pipeline after this quarter here?

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Sure. So we have had two launches, essentially. First was the IVA product. That was a OEM in partnership with Inference. So we've been selling that. And that's been a key component of a handful of very, very large strategic deals, as we shared previously. So that is really ready for takeoff, I would say. We haven't hit our stride on selling that into our customer base yet. And now that they're part of Five9, buckle up. Second is our organically developed Agent Assist, which we did launch last quarter, and it's getting very good traction. We're initially focused on driving efficiency through call summarization, which typically takes several minutes per agent. But when you've got thousands of agents, there's significant savings there. And we're seeing tremendous interest. Also the pipe is growing, but it's just launched. So early days on that one. And those are the two that we're betting on right now.

And again, both of these are really ready for takeoff. As far as the greater than 5,000 seats part of your question, it's an increasing part of our pipe. We've been executing successfully with our largest customers who have over 5,000 seats and getting good references from them and demonstrating the success. So we're seeing more and more interest in that sort of 5,000 to 10,000 seat segment. And that's going to continue to be a driver. And you'll see that -- you see the 35% LTM growth rate on our enterprise subscriptions. I think that greater than 5,000 segment will continue to be a bigger portion of that as we go along here. So thank you.

Operator

We'll go to Catharine Trebnick with Colliers Securities.

Catharine Trebnick -- Colliers Securities -- Analyst

Great quarter. Could you parse the competitive landscape? It seems like it shifted quite a bit with all your new products and pretty much where you see how you stack up against like an eight times eight and maybe the Vonage and then obviously inContact. And where do you think you're getting the most share from?

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. We don't see eight times eight and Vonage too much. Who we do see is NICE inContact, first and foremost. Genesys has begun to get more attention to the cloud part of their portfolio. So we haven't seen Genesys more. And there are a handful of other ankle biters, start-ups and other companies that are making noise. But nobody who's getting traction in these important segments of the market, which is where the growth is, the sort of mid-market and Enterprise business in the thousands of seats, which is where you're seeing a lot of our growth there. And on the UC front, I mentioned -- you mentioned eight times eight, but RingCentral is clearly there with their inContact partnership.

We are seeing lots of introductions through our Zoom partnership and through our recently launched Microsoft Teams Connector. So there are a lot of -- there's a lot of competition in the UC space. And the fact that we are -- have a Switzerland play here, we can integrate with any of them equally well actually sets us up really well to be able to serve the market. And so customers ultimately have a choice. They can choose their phone system, and they can choose their contact center independently, and we guarantee we'll make those work together. And that's something that's gone up very, very well in the marketplace.

Operator

Will Power with Baird is next.

Charlie -- Baird -- Analyst

This is Charlie [Phonetic] [Indecipherable] on for Will. Great to see the pipeline continuing to be strong. I'm wondering if you can talk a little bit about the makeup of the prospects in the pipeline. Are they perhaps a little bit larger than your average customer size? Are they may be more inclined to take some of your AI products? I'm hoping you can talk a little bit about maybe your confidence in closing the deals in the pipeline as well.

Daniel Burkland -- President

Yes. Thanks, Charlie. We -- this is Dan. We absolutely are seeing an increase in the pipeline, and it really runs the gamut as far as the number of applications and the types of applications, as I talked to earlier. More organizations are looking to provide a unique experience to their customers. And they need to do that in a variety of ways, whether it's self-service, digital channels, workflow to do follow-up and outreach proactively via SMS. And so the more we can deliver the different applications, the stronger the adoption rate for this whole industry is. And so if you look at our pipeline in general, we're seeing it across the board. But the significant growth, as you mentioned, is at the higher end of the market, right? Because they had to show -- they had to be convinced and be able to look to others to say, who else has done this, that's sort of my size and complexity, and undergone this transformation and moved to the cloud with Five9. And so we have to prove ourselves as we continue to move upmarket every step of the way. We see a lot of volume in the small and midsized enterprises, and we see a great growth rate in the high end of the enterprises.

As Rowan just mentioned, the 5,000-plus seats, they're starting to come to the forefront because they recognize that this is the future, and this is absolutely what the market's moving to. So we feel very good about the pipeline in general. And it's hitting on all cylinders. And we get that pipeline now from more sources than ever. It used to be generated. If I look back three to five years, it was generated primarily by us through our digital marketing efforts and by our brand and word of mouth. And now it's being generated by thousands of sellers and large companies that are out touting Five9. When you look at the number of systems integrators that we work with globally now, when you look at the number of distribution organizations and the thousands of sales personnel that we've trained and onboarded to understand Five9 and at least be knowledgeable enough to recognize the opportunities, speak to it intelligently and then bring us in to apply our sales expertise. So more than ever, we're getting more of apps. We're getting more opportunities, and those are occurring across the board in all sizes.

Operator

And our last question will come from Peter Levine with Evercore ISI.

Chirag Bed -- Evercore ISI -- Analyst

This is Chirag Bed calling on behalf of Peter Levine. Many congratulations on a great quarter. How do you see messaging and trends around conversational commerce evolving over the next 12 to 24 months? Clearly, with the Inference acquisition, the messaging landscape is changing. So could you maybe talk a bit about what your customers are asking for in terms of messaging and how partners could potentially leverage Inference moving forward?

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Sure Yes. Great question. Messaging -- and I would call them sort of like near-real-time channels, so SMS -- any sort of text-based communication is clearly on the rise in our customer base. And what Inference brings us is two things. One is a way to automate those conversations using AI. And so that's very exciting, has a chatbot capability essentially that we can bring to our customers natively as part of the product. But more importantly, I think, is the voice-based IVA to replace the IVR. And that's something that a lot of customers have tried to implement in the past with the older technologies and, frankly, gotten stymied and struggled with. And what's changed now is that it's now possible to do this for -- even the smallest companies in the world can implement an effective IVA. And so there's a -- nobody likes IVRs out there. They're generally frustrating to your end customer.

And so this is an opportunity to see the whole industry move toward a new technology, drive more automation and more self-service. And all of that can be done either via voice. So if the customer -- what we really want to do is make the experience great no matter what channel you're connecting in on. So if you connect it on voice, you get a great experience with automation and a conversational voice-based agent that is delightful and then the same kind of quality experience with your texting or messaging on the website, sending an SMS or what have you. So we can apply that technology across multiple channels, and I think it's ready for take off in the industry. So it's a good time for us to make this move. Thank you.

Operator

I'll now turn the call back to management for any additional remarks.

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Well, I'd just like to close out by saying thank you all for your questions and joining our call today. Thanks to my leadership team and the finance group and all the support folks who helped us to create this earnings call, really appreciate it. Five9 is clearly on a roll. We have been executing like clockwork now for many, many, many quarters and doing so in the face of sort of unprecedented disruption with COVID. So my hats off, and I have to really thank from the bottom of my heart our employees, who have been at the frontlines of making everything that you heard today happen.

So thank you to the Five9 employees. And secondly, thank you to our partners who have been a huge part of our growth story here. We couldn't have done it without them. And then finally, of course, thanks to all of our customers. It's been an incredible nine months, I guess, you could say, since COVID hit or perhaps a little less than that. And you've given us your business and your trust, and we're honored to be able to serve you. So thank you very, very much, and appreciate your time today. Thanks, everyone.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks].

Duration: 65 minutes

Call participants:

Lisa Laukkanen -- Investor Relations

Rowan Trollope -- Chief Executive Officer

Daniel Burkland -- President

Barry Zwarenstein -- Chief Financial Officer

Sterling Auty -- JPMorgan -- Analyst

Karan Juvekar -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

David Hynes -- Canaccord -- Analyst

Terry Tillman -- Truist Securities -- Analyst

Raimo Lenschow -- Barclays -- Analyst

Matt VanVliet -- BTIG -- Analyst

Mike -- KeyBanc -- Analyst

Michael Turrin -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

Ryan MacWilliams -- Stephens, Inc -- Analyst

Scott Berg -- Needham -- Analyst

James Fish -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Catharine Trebnick -- Colliers Securities -- Analyst

Charlie -- Baird -- Analyst

Chirag Bed -- Evercore ISI -- Analyst

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