CVS Health (CVS) Q3 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

CVS Health (CVS -1.62%)
Q3 2020 Earnings Call
Nov 06, 2020, 8:00 a.m. ET

Contents:

• Prepared Remarks
• Questions and Answers
• Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the CVS Health third-quarter 2020 earnings conference call. [Operator instructions] As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Valerie Haertel, senior vice president of investor relations for CVS Health. Please go ahead.

Valerie Haertel -- Senior Vice President of Investor Relations

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the CVS Health third-quarter 2020 earnings call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I'm Valerie Haertel, senior vice president of investor relations for CVS Health.

I am joined this morning by Larry Merlo, president and CEO; Eva Boratto, executive vice president and CFO; and Karen Lynch, executive vice president and president of Aetna. Our question-and-answer session will also include Jon Roberts, executive vice president and chief operating officer; and Alan Lotvin, executive vice president and president of Caremark. We have also posted a slide presentation on our website. During this call, we will make certain forward-looking statements reflecting our current views, including projections and statements related to our future performance.

Our forward-looking statements are subject to significant risks and uncertainties. You should review the information regarding these risks and uncertainties, in particular, those described in our annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q filed with the SEC. You should also review the cautionary statement concerning forward-looking statements in our earnings press release. During this call, we will use non-GAAP financial measures.

A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is included in our earnings press release and the reconciliation document posted on our website. Today's call is being broadcast on our website, where it will be archived for one year. Now I'll turn the call over to Larry.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Valerie. And good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining this morning's call. Before discussing our Q3 results, let me say a few words about this morning's news. After more than 40 years with the company and a decade as CEO, I will be retiring from CVS Health next February and I'm very pleased to share that we have chosen Karen Lynch to become CVS Health's next President and CEO effective February 1.

As you know, Karen is currently President of Aetna, and she is ideally positioned to lead CVS Health on our ongoing journey to transform health by making it more accessible and affordable while delivering better health outcomes. And I'll work closely with Karen and our board of directors to ensure a seamless transition as I remain on the board and serve as strategic advisor through May of next year. Ten years ago, when I took this role, we created a robust strategy to transform ourselves to become a new kind of diversified health services company. We drove tremendous growth in Caremark and grew the business to become the leading PBM in the industry.

We rebranded ourselves as CVS Health and took bold actions such as removing all tobacco products from our stores, reinforcing our renewed purpose. We continue to grow our PBM business while we invested in high-growth areas of specialty pharmacy, adding businesses such as Coram and NovoLogix. We enhanced our retail footprint to broaden our local appeal and focus on the Latino marketplace, and we made healthcare easily accessible through our MinuteClinic locations, rolling out a variety of innovative healthcare services. We grew not because we wanted a larger number of stores, but because we knew it was essential to be relevant in local communities.

Further, we identified a strategic need to round out our suite of assets with a national health plan business, which led to the industry-disrupting acquisition of Aetna. And this month marks our two-year anniversary as one company and we are now leveraging our local presence in communities to deliver expanded and integrated services to people wherever they are, whether in our HealthHUB and MinuteClinic locations, in their homes or in the palm of their hands. And today, we have clearly established the foundation of our transformation with significant positive momentum built across the company, and this is a natural point in time for this leadership transition. Now Karen has strong healthcare leadership experience, a deep understanding of the company and its strategy, and a strong track record of driving both growth and innovation.

She's truly customer-obsessed and a big thinker, not afraid of the disruption that's necessary to drive positive change and she ensures strong execution of the operational details. Karen has been a key member of our leadership team and a key partner to me on the planning and execution of our transformational activities over the past two years, and the board and I are confident that she is the right person to lead our company forward. And I know CVS Health will be in very good hands under Karen's stewardship and wanted to give her a moment to say a few words.

Karen Lynch -- Executive Vice President and President, Aetna

Thank you, Larry. I'd like to start by thanking you and the board of directors for this opportunity to lead CVS Health. I have tremendous pride in our company and in the 300,000 talented colleagues who work tirelessly every day for millions of Americans. This is a significant time in our company's history.

We're on a mission to reshape healthcare as we know it today. Our strategy is rooted in meeting consumer expectations as we work to address every meaningful moment of health in a person's life. Our unmatched assets allow us to offer greater convenience and services that are personalized to an individual's unique needs. The strategy is working.

Never before has our purpose been more critical as we continue to lead our national response to the pandemic, helping patients, families, and communities stay safe and well. I'm truly excited to become president and CEO of CVS Health in February. My focus is on building on the strong foundation and the positive momentum we have across the company to continue to address the human aspects of health. Our business is personal.

It's about people. It's about their everyday holistic health. I'm confident that we are well-positioned for continued success and growth in the years to come. I look forward to working with Larry and the executive team throughout this transition to accelerate the value we bring to the marketplace.

Larry, back to you.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, thanks, Karen, and congratulations. I also want to thank all of our CVS Health colleagues past and present, especially our management teams with who I have been privileged to serve. I know you'll have questions for Karen, a few for me, but for now, let's get down to the business of our third-quarter results. And our strong Q3 demonstrates the value we're creating through the resilient, strength, and flexibility of our diversified business model and underscore the impact of our transformation and growth strategies.

We are accelerating elements of our strategy with innovative healthcare offerings that address the evolving consumer landscape, providing both personalized and connected care that deliver better health outcomes. Importantly, as we expand our range of offerings, our client and customer satisfaction metrics are at all-time highs. We continue to serve our local communities as a trusted provider of essential healthcare services and now as the leader in diagnostic testing during one of the most challenging times in our nation's history. We are working closely with local community organizations, as well as, federal, state and local governments to expand COVID-19 testing, especially within traditionally underserved communities.

In addition, we are pleased to have been selected to partner with the government in administering COVID vaccines when available for long-term care facilities. And our track record with COVID testing, along with our experience in vaccinations, have demonstrated our ability to rapidly scale services and we expect to play a significant role in all vaccination administration. Now our multichannel health services model delivers care wherever our customers need it, whether in the community, in their home or in the palm of their hand. And I am very proud of our CVS Health colleagues who have been responding quickly to the critical needs of our customers as the pandemic continues to evolve.

And I'd like to thank our nearly 300,000 colleagues on the front lines, behind the scenes, and across our organization who are committed to providing high-quality care and service to our customers. For the third quarter, we delivered adjusted earnings per share of $1.66 with total revenues of $67 billion, that's up 3.5% versus the prior year. A few highlights include our pharmacy services segment delivered double-digit operating income growth versus prior year, reflecting strength in specialty, along with favorable purchasing economics and our 2021 selling season is wrapping up quite nicely with $3.3 billion of net new business. In our healthcare benefits segment, we anticipate another strong Medicare AEP driven by our leading position in zero premium plans, expanded geographic footprint, and continued acceleration of our dual DSNP offerings.

Additionally, we maintained our strong position in Medicare Advantage. And our 2021 star rating again reflects 83% of members in 4 plus star plans, so we're well-positioned for above-market growth in '21 and beyond. And finally, in our retail/long-term care segment, we have delivered over 6 million COVID tests across more than 4,000 locations, demonstrating consumer confidence in CVS as a healthcare destination. Now it's also worth noting COVID-19 had an estimated $0.15 to $0.18 adverse impact on EPS in the quarter, largely reflecting the planned investments we have made in customers and members in our healthcare benefit segment.

In light of our performance, we are raising our full-year 2020 adjusted earnings per share guidance range to $7.35 to $7.45 and Eva will provide additional details in her remarks. Our unique combination of assets are accelerating our opportunities for growth and we are taking existing capabilities and combining them in different ways to create new and enhanced products and services for our customers. And the over 100 million members we serve across our business, provides a straightforward path to rapidly scale these offerings and a clear example of this is Aetna Connected. It's a first-of-its-kind healthcare benefits product we recently launched in Kansas City.

This offering brings together a broad range of CVS Health assets, providing a comprehensive set of healthcare services with market-leading affordability. Now we've received positive client reception to this new product with a strong pipeline of interest following the launch and we're expanding Aetna Connected to Texas. And we expect to continue to roll out this innovative offering to additional markets in '21. As we noted last quarter, we launched our next-generation Transform Diabetes Care program designed to improve health outcomes for many Americans living with the condition.

Of the 34 million with diabetes nationwide, 1.5 million are Aetna members, over 8 million Caremark members, along with 5.5 million customers who fill diabetes prescriptions at a CVS Pharmacy, and our next-gen diabetes solution leverages the CVS Health enterprise. It brings together our advanced data analytics with our clinical, brick-and-mortar and digital assets to provide a comprehensive solution that is personalized, predictive, and prioritized. We have built a proprietary analytic data engine to risk stratify our members based on the level of unmet needs of the member, along with the best method for outreach evaluating both clinical acuity and proximity to a CVS Pharmacy. And what's exciting and unique about our solution is that we don't just focus on blood glucose testing.

We go well beyond to include health screening, medication optimization and adherence, and comorbidity management, and the early results identified approximately 80% of diabetes members having an open gap at any given time. So we're pleased that we already have 1 million members that have access to the next-gen diabetes program on January 1, along with a very active pipeline. Now in addition to these new and innovative insurance products and clinical service offerings, we are successfully selling more enterprise services to existing clients. For example, we are driving pharmacy penetration in Aetna's book, projecting nearly $300 million in incremental revenue in '21 as a result of increased demand for our integrated medical and pharmacy offering.

In our government business, we have introduced a reduced and a zero copay MinuteClinic benefit that includes our E-Clinic virtual care product and that's for our Medicare Advantage plans in '21 and our Medicare Part D prescription products also support growth in Medicare Advantage. Now this year, we are on track to convert over 40,000 PDP members to an MA product. And for 2021, we expect our new low-cost PDP product to be attractive to a broader customer base, creating an opportunity to grow Medicare Advantage membership. So I think that gives you a sense of how we are connecting our existing enterprise assets in creating new products and services.

Let me spend a few minutes on other ways we're transforming healthcare delivery. As you know, CVS Health has been on the front lines of the fight against COVID-19 from the start and our work in local communities to help curb the spread of the virus is unwavering. As I mentioned earlier, we have conducted more than 6 million COVID tests, representing about 70% of the testing that is done in a retail setting nationwide and have now doubled the number of testing sites across the country to more than 4,000. Return Ready, our comprehensive B2B testing product, is helping our clients get back to the work site or school by offering testing and support services directly to employers and educators.

We have more than 70 clients implemented to date. Now both COVID testing and Return Ready have expanded the universe of people utilizing CVS services, 70% of those being tested at a CVS pharmacy and 40% of our Return Ready clients were not previously CVS Health's customers. We're also beginning to coordinate a number of services for consumers who received a positive diagnosis such as access to behavioral health and support for the social determinants of health and these are just a few examples of how we're working to retain these individuals as long-term CVS customers. Also of notice, our pharmacist panel program aimed at actively managing chronic disease.

In the U.S., it's estimated that almost two-thirds of adults have at least one chronic condition driving over 80% of annual healthcare expenditures. And with over 80 million patients filling prescriptions at a CVS pharmacy annually, we are uniquely positioned to help patients better manage their chronic condition. Now we continue to expand pharmacist panels with more than 1,000 stores now active, and this is another first-of-its-kind capability aimed at improving the health of those with chronic conditions by reimagining the pharmacist-patient relationship. This capability surfaces individualized clinical insights for our pharmacists through our analytics engine, enabling real-time coaching and counseling to close clinical care gaps.

Pharmacist interventions like this are showing promising results, including an 8% lift in adherence, a 4% increase in clinical care gap closure, a 12% reduction in unnecessary ER visits along with an 8% reduction in out-of-network and non-preferred provider utilization. We're pleased with these early results and are on track to lower medical costs, improve outcomes and benefit star ratings. We're also continuing to roll out HealthHUBs and now operate nearly 450 hubs in 30 states. Not only are we growing the number of HealthHUBs, we're expanding the suite of clinical offerings available to include in-person behavioral health services, which will be available beginning in January.

Across five states, we are utilizing Medicare resource centers inside our HealthHUB locations to support Medicare Advantage enrollment through a payer-agnostic distribution model. Now the demand has been strong, consumer response is outpacing early expectations, and in addition to supporting beneficiary enrollment education, it provides yet another opportunity to connect seniors to affordable care through our broader CVS Health capabilities. We also continue to see increased interest in expanding healthcare services in our hubs. As an example, year-to-date, approximately 16% of MinuteClinic visits are now for chronic services and that's up nearly twofold over last year.

And as these members become more connected to the various services we offer, we expect better health outcomes and lowered medical costs. Complementing our HealthHUBs and demonstrating our drive to meet consumers where they are, we continue to invest in expanding access to virtual care through our telehealth platforms. There is an intersection between the convenience and efficiency of virtual services with an in-person visit at our physical stores where patients need more personalized high-touch care and support, and all of our services are complemented by our digital capabilities. As an example, our specialty digital solutions for patients has grown by a 25% CAGR over the past two years.

And since the start of the pandemic, we are seeing over 40% of all specialty orders being placed digitally and this allows enhanced connectivity to optimally manage patients and drive down costs. Additionally, we have created a fully digital end-to-end experience for COVID testing and flu vaccinations. Patients can schedule appointments online and complete all of the administrative requirements prior to arriving at our stores. This approach provides a simpler and seamless consumer experience while reducing administrative time in our stores.

And the customer receptivity to these capabilities has been favorable and we will continue to utilize these same tools in administering the COVID vaccine when available. So I think you can see from these results there is certainly momentum in our business. And with that, let me turn the call over to Eva.

Eva Boratto -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Larry. I want to thank you for your leadership over the last 10 years. It's been a true pleasure to work together. I'd also like to congratulate you, Karen, and I look forward to continuing to work closely with you as we enter our next chapter of growth at CVS Health.

During the third quarter, we made steady progress on our strategic priorities, keeping us on our long-term growth trajectory. Our diversified assets are delivering innovative health solutions, as Larry noted, and have also provided enterprise-level resiliency through the challenging market conditions as evidenced by today's results. During the quarter, we generated $1.9 billion of cash from operations, bringing our year-to-date total to $12.3 billion and we have paid down $4.75 billion of net debt in the quarter. We remain committed to achieve our low 3 times leverage target in 2022.

We maintained our commitment to delivering solid shareholder returns through our dividend while also investing in our enterprise to support our customers during the pandemic and accelerate future growth. Our core operations performed above our expectations with the pharmacy services segment driving continued momentum. The quarter reflected the benefit of our successful COVID-19 diagnostic testing in retail/long-term care. In addition, we had some lower medical utilization in the healthcare benefits segment, partially offsetting the planned COVID-19 cost in both healthcare benefits and retail/long-term care during the quarter.

Turning to our operating results by segment. Our healthcare benefits segment total revenues increased 8.8% year over year, driven primarily by membership growth in our government products and the favorable impact of the reinstatement of the HIF in 2020. Adjusted operating income declined $343 million, largely reflecting the planned COVID-19-related investments benefiting customers and members, costs associated with the actions to rightsize our operations and divestitures of Aetna's PDP, and our workers' compensation business. Recall, Aetna's PDP was divested in 2018 in connection with the closure of the Aetna acquisition.

However, we continue to retain the economics of the contracts for all of 2019 and as is typical with a PDP, the economics are greatest in the back half of the year. Transitioning to membership. Medicare Advantage grew by 1% sequentially. Growing Medicare Advantage is one of our key strategic priorities, and as Larry mentioned, we are pleased with our position in the market for the 2021 annual enrollment period.

Our recently released strong star ratings from CMS demonstrate our commitment to maintaining best-in-class service quality and how our integrated assets are providing value to our customers. Our Medicaid membership grew 5.2% sequentially as states responded to the COVID-19 pandemic by suspending eligibility redeterminations. Looking ahead, we have a robust pipeline of opportunities to serve this population across various states given our diversified assets and local presence. And finally, commercial membership declined 3.1% sequentially, including the previously disclosed transition of a large public and labor client.

The sequential decline in membership in the third quarter was better than initially anticipated. In total, medical membership declined 316,000 sequentially. Our MBR for the quarter of 84% increased 70 basis points, compared to the prior year, driven by COVID-19-related investments, shifts in mix of our business, as well as, the effects of the Aetna PDP divestiture, partially offset by the reinstatement of the HIF. Days claims payable were 49 days for Q3, lower than Q2 as utilization has returned to more normal levels.

We remain confident in the adequacy of our reserves. Moving to pharmacy services. Performance in the quarter was excellent, exceeding our expectations. Adjusted operating income increased 12.5% compared to the third quarter last year, driven primarily by improvements in purchasing economics and growth in specialty pharmacy.

Total revenues declined approximately 1% versus last year, primarily driven by the previously disclosed client losses and continued price compression. The decline in revenue was partially offset by growth in specialty pharmacy of 6.5% and brand drug price inflation. Total pharmacy claims increased 3.7% in Q3, mainly driven by net new business. COVID-19 had an unfavorable impact on volume in the quarter, reflecting lower new therapy starts, a trend that has continued from last quarter.

Shifting to the 2021 selling season. Our renewals are now largely complete with a strong 98% retention rate. To date, we have gross new wins of $4.6 billion for 2021. And finally, our retail/long-term care segment continues to demonstrate strength in top-line performance despite headwinds created by the current environment.

Total revenues grew 5.9% year over year, driven by increased prescription volume and front store sales, as well as, diagnostic testing and brand inflation. Front store revenue increased 2.7%, driven primarily by consumer health sales and a higher basket size, partially offset by lower foot traffic. Retail/long-term care prescription volume increased 4.6%, benefiting from flu vaccinations and continued adoption of patient care programs. Gross margins for the segment declined about 150 basis points versus 2019, in line with our expectation.

Adjusted operating income declined 6.9% year over year, driven by continued reimbursement pressure and lower bed census in the long-term care business. These were partially offset by increased pharmacy volume and front store volume. Impacts from COVID-19 in the quarter were not material as higher operating expenses were essentially offset by the benefit from our COVID-19 testing. Moving to other notable items on the income statement.

We incurred lower interest expense as a result of our continued debt paydown and the adjusted tax rate was higher in Q3 2020, compared to Q3 2019, primarily due to the reinstatement of the HIF. As we think about our outlook for the rest of the year and 2021, we, just like others, are facing uncertainty as to what will happen with COVID-19. In our slides, we have again shared monthly metrics to enable you to understand the trends in our business during this unusual time. During the month of October, flu vaccinations increased versus LY.

We also experienced reduced cough and cold sales in the front store and lower MinuteClinic visits and prescriptions for flu and flu-like symptoms. Medical utilization is trending generally in line with normal levels, varying by geography and type of business. With that, as Larry mentioned, we are raising our full-year 2020 adjusted EPS guidance range to $7.35 to $7.45 to reflect the outperformance, as well as, the estimated unfavorable impact of COVID-19 in Q4. We remain confident in delivering savings of $800 million to $900 million from integration synergies for the full-year 2020.

As mentioned last quarter, we expect approximately $2 billion of COVID-related investments, refunds, and rebates for the year. We are also raising our full-year 2020 cash flow from operations guidance to $12.75 billion to $13.25 billion. The increase reflects the underlying performance of the business, as well as, working capital improvements. The cash flow from operations guidance includes the October receipt of $313 million that was owed under the ACA risk corridor program.

Note that this income from this payment will be excluded from non-GAAP results. Let me share a little color on what we expect for the segments in the fourth quarter. Similar to Q3, within healthcare benefits, we expect medical utilization to continue at more normal levels with select geographic areas affected by COVID-19 wave. The investments discussed are expected to have the greatest impact in Q4.

Additionally, healthcare benefits will incur seasonal costs during Q4 related to readiness for 1/1. In the pharmacy services segment, we expect the business to continue to deliver operating income growth in the fourth quarter, including strong specialty performance and higher costs associated with 1/1 readiness. In addition to the comments noted about October, the retail/long-term care segment is expected to have lower flu vaccinations for the remainder of the quarter due to the acceleration of our programs. These impacts are partially offset by continued benefits from our expanded COVID-19 testing.

As we look ahead to 2021, we have received many questions on the 2020 jump off. I want to be clear, our target remains to grow mid single-digits off our baseline and we are confident in our outlook. As we typically do, the baseline removes prior-year's development and net realized capital gains or losses as we do not forecast these items. As you'd expect, we are also adjusting for the COVID-19-related activity and the workers' comp divestiture.

When factoring in all of these items, I would think about our baseline as about $7.10, which is at the midpoint of our initial guidance for 2020. In summary, our financial resilience through this period reflects the strength of our diversified portfolio of assets and our ability to deliver on expectations. We are executing on our strategic plan to do more with what we have and deliver new and innovative products and services in this dynamic environment. We continue to demonstrate the early success of our healthcare services model.

We are on a path to fundamentally change the consumer experience to make healthcare more affordable, accessible, and better. Our continued execution and strong cash generation are propelling us toward achieving our long-term sustainable growth. With that, let's open it up for your questions.

Questions & Answers:

Operator

[Operator instructions] And we'll go first to Lisa Gill with JP Morgan.

Lisa Gill -- J.P. Morgan -- Analyst

Thanks very much. Let me be the first to congratulate you, Larry, on your retirement. It's been great working with you and to see the strategic vision that you put together for this company, so congratulations. And obviously, congratulations to Karen also.

I am incredibly happy to have a woman as CEO for one of our large-cap companies. So all the way around, I think this is great for CVS.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Lisa.

Lisa Gill -- J.P. Morgan -- Analyst

So, Larry, my question, just want to understand -- you know, you gave us a lot of information today. Clearly, moving in the right direction around some of the initiatives that you've put in place. When we think about, for example, the HealthHUBs, 450 in 30 states, is there a way to think about how that has driven the performance of the enterprise? Or has driven the performance of those stores to get a baseline of how we think about some of these opportunities going forward? As well as, you know, you talked about incremental chronic visits in the MinuteClinic. How do we think about those things coming together? And what are going to be the most important metrics for us to follow as we think about the progression of the company into 2021, 2022?

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Lisa, thanks for the question. And Lisa, as you look at the HealthHUB today and as you look at the performance within the four walls of the store, we continue to be pleased with what we're seeing even in a COVID world, OK, in terms of additional visits, whether it's MinuteClinic, whether it's pharmacy utilization. And as we look at the front store performance, we are selling a different mix of products, that -- with that comes a higher margin profile for the front store.

So that's the first part of the story. The second part of the story is really what the HealthHUBs enable across the enterprise. And as we talked last quarter, COVID did slow us down in terms of turning on all of our marketing programs and related activities. In the last, I'll say, four to six weeks, we have now begun to turn those things back on along with some of the integrated products that are coming to market, example of that being Aetna Connect that we talked about in our prepared remarks.

So the second value creator is what the HealthHUB enables in terms of value creation that accrues somewhere else across the enterprise. And as we begin to scale up those types of, whether it's enrollment in Aetna Connected as one example along with the other products. We talked about Transform Diabetes Care, and obviously, Alan plays a role in terms of how that plays through the Caremark business with their clients. That's what we'll be talking about in totality, acknowledging that there's a scaling issue as those products come to market.

Lisa Gill -- J.P. Morgan -- Analyst

Yeah. So just as a quick follow-up, I mean, as we think about -- you talked about the marketing of these programs. Are we thinking about this as primarily a driver of adding to membership for Aetna, whether it's in the MA programs or the commercial programs? Or are you thinking, Larry, of this more broadly when you think about advertisement, is it more toward the consumer, where the consumer is going to be picking some of these programs? And I'll stop there.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. You know what, Lisa, it's a great question and it's really both. There's the general marketing to consumers in terms of the awareness of what new products and services may be available in the store. As an example, the countless numbers of people that suffer from sleep apnea and how we now become part of their maintenance program as you think about the products associated with that.

And then equally, if not more important, is the second part of your question in terms of what it does in terms of attracting its -- what we talked about is one of the important value creators in terms of how we can grow lives as a result of that and how those lives further penetrate the various community assets that we have in terms of higher utilization. You heard us talk about examples in our Medicare offerings for 2021 as another example that leverage those CVS capabilities -- community-facing capabilities.

Karen Lynch -- Executive Vice President and President, Aetna

Lisa, another way to think about to add to what Larry said, between Caremark and the health segment, we have 100 million members between the two of us. So if you think about those 100 million members and the opportunity we have to change our products and services to attract them to the HealthHUBs, that gives us a good opportunity for growth as well.

Lisa Gill -- J.P. Morgan -- Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Eric Percher with Nephron Research.

Eric Percher -- Nephron Research -- Analyst

Thank you, Eric and Josh here. And credit to the board on succession and congrats to Larry and to Karen. Question on PDP. The plans nationally next year had premiums of around $7.

This appears to be about half of the next closest competitor. So I think the question is what is the strategy driving this? And can you show positive income in PDP on those premiums?

Karen Lynch -- Executive Vice President and President, Aetna

Well, first of all, thank you. Relative to PDP, if you recall, when we took over the SilverScript business, we had a very defined strategy to rebalance the product portfolio to achieve higher margins. And the second part of that strategy was to attract PDP members that we could ultimately convert to Medicare Advantage members. So as we changed the product portfolio this year, we introduced the new PDP product.

We have priced it at the target margins that we believe are appropriate. The product is designed for a certain set of individuals that we believe can ultimately and will be interested in moving to Medicare Advantage. So we're pleased with where we are priced and the products and service that we're offering in PDP.

Eric Percher -- Nephron Research -- Analyst

Thank you for that. And just on the PBM purchasing side, can you give us a little of what does that mean? And is it early for the link benefits that you spoke to last quarter?

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Eric, thanks for the question and the comments earlier. I'll flip it over to Alan.

Alan Lotvin -- executive Vice President and President of Caremark

Yes. So Eric, thanks. When we think about purchasing economics, it spans a broad range of activities, right? It's drug purchasing within our own pharmacy. It's retail network contracting.

It's contracting with the pharmaceutical manufacturers. It's driving brand generics, which is all of those things go into purchasing economics and they're among the most important and most active parts of the organization.

Eric Percher -- Nephron Research -- Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

We'll go next to Ricky Goldwasser with Morgan Stanley.

Ricky Goldwasser -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

Yeah. Good morning and Larry, always appreciated your long-term vision and using your words and also Karen, not being afraid to make the hard decisions for the long-term opportunity. And also your access and your insights, so best wishes in everything, and Karen, looking forward to working with you for a very long time. My question is related to the 2021 guide.

I appreciate that there are multiple variables, but we now know what the CMS established reimbursement for COVID vaccine. You guys, a couple of weeks ago, said that -- quantified how many more individuals you're going to hire to assist in that effort. How should we think about this opportunity within the '21 growth target that you provided us? Or is it an incremental and one that you will address upon a vaccine approval?

Eva Boratto -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Hi, Ricky, it's Eva. I'll take your question. Thanks for that. Overall, I guess where I want to start is, as we look at all of the aspects of our business and all of the variables that could affect our business, we remain confident with mid single-digit growth.

And certainly, in February on our year-end earnings call, we'll have more to provide there. But we believe we've made the right investments over the last several years to set us up to continue to accelerate growth. Some of the things I'd highlight are we've invested in our star ratings, delivering new offerings, you've heard Karen and Larry talk about that. Continuing to expand our diagnostic areas and things you've heard us talk about related to the HealthHUBs and modernized and managed our underlying cost structure.

So there are many moving pieces. As you can appreciate, there's a lot of uncertainty as well in terms of the timing of different aspects, but we'll come back in February providing greater detail. And I would add, one more point, Ricky, I would add is, as you've seen our business perform over the last several quarters during COVID, we have some natural offsets in our business. What is an opportunity from one side of the business may be an incremental cost for another area.

So our diversified portfolio is really playing together nicely.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

And Ricky, thanks for the comments. The only other point that I would make in terms of -- I think what we'd like people to walk away from is, if we told you a year ago that to date, 6 million people would have gone to their local CVS pharmacy for a diagnostic test related to some virus, we'd probably get an eyeball roll. The reality is that's happened and it really speaks to the strategy that we've talked about in terms of meeting people where they are. One of -- one example of that's being in the community.

So again, I think it's a very tangible proof point of our strategy coming to life in a very meaningful way, and we look forward to playing an important role in the vaccine administration once that becomes available. And as Eva pointed out, there's a lot of uncertainties and in February, when we get to the Q4 call, we'll provide a lot of context in terms of '21, as well as, the assumptions that we're making. Because between now and then, probably all the questions won't be answered, but we'll talk about how we're thinking about it for the year.

Ricky Goldwasser -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

OK. And just a quick follow-up. As you think about the strategy in the retail segment, you highlight long-term care is still a headwind. You've been evaluating this business for a while now.

So as we sit here, do you view it as strategic asset to the business that justifies keeping it at the losses?

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, Ricky, look, as we look at the challenges in long-term care, we view those as I'll describe them as cyclical that are directly tied to COVID. And Eva talked about lower bed census, that continues. We think that once the -- once COVID is behind us, they will return to more historic levels of occupancy and we continue to see the assisted living space as an important element of those that we can serve. And we're continuing to look at those opportunities as we think about what we can do today in a COVID world, OK, in terms of supporting those facilities when you think about both testing, as well as, vaccine administration and then how that transitions in a post-COVID world.

Ricky Goldwasser -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

We'll go next to A.J. Rice with Credit Suisse.

A.J. Rice -- Credit Suisse -- Analyst

Hi, everybody, and best wishes to Larry and congratulations to Karen. Just maybe to pick up on the comments that we've made around the Medicaid business in the prepared remarks. I know we're talking about the lack of redeterminations helping the enrollment growth that you're seeing there. I wonder that one of the issues with redeterminations is people not being eligible for Medicaid and being taken off the rolls.

With the underlying economic situation we have now, as you assess that, do you think that the headwind of redeterminations coming back will be less of a headwind if the economic environment stays persistent? Because maybe more of those people will actually be eligible and then you mentioned that there were some -- you were looking forward to RFP activity next year. Any assessment of that and early discussions about rates around 2021 with Medicaid?

Karen Lynch -- Executive Vice President and President, Aetna

Hi, A.J., it's Karen. Relative to the opportunities for next year, we are -- you know, there are a number of RFPs that we are assessing that we feel that we're well-positioned for. So we're excited about the integrated value and the opportunities we think we can bring to the marketplace with all of our enterprise assets, so we're working through that. I would note that relative to one of our contracts that is under protest, so we're monitoring that very closely and that was a large contract.

On redeterminations, obviously, we are monitoring that and that has been a big part of our growth this year. Unemployment, we expect to continue to see unemployment. We expect to see increases in Medicaid enrollment as a result of that as well. So Medicaid is an important business for us.

It does have the opportunity for growth. It is strategically positioned as an important business and we hope to continue to grow that asset.

A.J. Rice -- Credit Suisse -- Analyst

Just any thoughts on the rate outlook given some states are having budgetary pressures? Or do you expect to like --

Karen Lynch -- Executive Vice President and President, Aetna

Yeah. Thank you. I forgot you asked that question. Yeah.

Obviously, the states are -- have a lot of budget concerns. In a lot of our contracts, we have -- they have protection on risk corridors and we're working very closely with the states on Medicaid rates. And we've always been in the position to have conversations with them about actuarial soundness. So those are the conversations that we're having, but we do anticipate in the fourth quarter to see some impact on our Medicaid business as a result of state rate adjustments.

A.J. Rice -- Credit Suisse -- Analyst

OK. Thanks a lot.

Operator

We'll go next to Charles Rhyee with Cowen.

Charles Rhyee -- Cowen and Company -- Analyst

Congratulations to Larry and Karen as well. My question really kind of goes back to a little bit on the Aetna Connected also with the HealthHUB. I think last year, obviously, very few HealthHUBs were up and I think you guys wanted to get to a bit more of a critical mass before having it launched more directly into the Aetna membership. When I -- when you guys talked about this Aetna Connected plan, is the HealthHUB a key part of that benefit design? Because my sense was, back then that that was sort of the idea moving forward is to really use HealthHUBs as a key part of the healthcare delivery here for Aetna members to demonstrate the savings able to generate from that and then be able to maybe prioritize that going forward to sell to other plans.

Just wanted to understand if that's still sort of the idea that you're moving toward. Is that in the benefit design for '21? And just any kind of color around how that's evolving.

Karen Lynch -- Executive Vice President and President, Aetna

Yeah. What we've done to drive volume into, not only the HealthHUBs, but our MinuteClinics is we've offered low-cost, no-cost copays. We have almost 4 million members in that product design today. We have started to see increase in Aetna membership in our HealthHUBs overweighting kind of for chronic diseases.

So we're pleased with what we're seeing for the benefit design and then, obviously, driving utilization into MinuteClinics and the HealthHUBs. Our connected care product, which we introduced this year as well, is designed to essentially leverage all of our company assets, and we're really excited. We've seen good pipeline, good interest in that, that not only supports the MinuteClinics, HealthHUBs, our standard formulary, our telemedicine, our Coram business. So again, we are looking at opportunities when we develop products, we develop designs for the integrated assets of the company.

Eva Boratto -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

And Karen, if I could just add in addition to what you said as you thought about the MA designs as well and for this year, it was a smaller pilot. But we've also expanded as we look forward to 2021, incorporating the enterprise assets and the hubs.

Karen Lynch -- Executive Vice President and President, Aetna

That's correct.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. And Charles, I alluded to this on an earlier question in terms of concentration and we continue to believe that 1,500 hubs is the right number. I'm sure everybody can appreciate that converting HealthHUBs in a COVID world has been a challenge just from a logistics point of view. So the build-outs have been a little more difficult.

We will end the year this year around 600 hubs. And as you think about '21 and the earlier discussion or question around testing, vaccines, we have reprioritized some capital and resources, investing in those capabilities as we think about the ongoing role that testing and vaccine administration will play. So as we think about 2021, we will -- by the end of the year, we will have at least 1,300 hubs. There may be some spillover to that 1,500 number into the early part of 2022, but that level of concentration certainly allows us from a sales point of view to address the multiregional and the national clients in a very differentiated way than what exists today.

So most of what -- the question you were asking is more very regionally focused where we have a concentration within a particular geography.

Charles Rhyee -- Cowen and Company -- Analyst

That's helpful. Thanks. And Eva, if I could follow up with you real quick. Cash flow is obviously very strong and for the full year here.

If I recall, you guys have more or less said you'd probably hold off on really any meaningful share repurchase until you get the leverage down toward that 3 times the range by 2022. If cash flow continues to come in stronger than expected, any potential to layer in a little bit of additional share repo earlier than we could assume?

Eva Boratto -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thanks for that question. At this juncture, what I would say is we continue to stay focused on achieving our low 3 times leverage ratio and I'm extremely pleased with the cash and the focus across the company. You heard our increase in guidance was due to the underlying operations, as well as, the focus on working capital and we will continue to focus to get to that target ratio.

Charles Rhyee -- Cowen and Company -- Analyst

OK. Thank you.

Eva Boratto -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

While -- I'd just add, while investing in the business, as we've spoken about and maintaining the dividend.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Next question.

Operator

We'll go next to George Hill with Deutsche Bank.

George Hill -- Deutsche Bank -- Analyst

Good morning, guys, and thanks for taking the questions. And let me echo my congratulations to Larry and to Karen. And I'll say, given the week we're in, it's always good to see a peaceful transition of power, so that's nice.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, George. Good comment.

George Hill -- Deutsche Bank -- Analyst

I guess Larry and Karen, as we think about the MinuteClinics and the HealthHUBs, one of the things we've seen coming out of the COVID crisis is that ED utilization remains sharply lower, likely to the benefit of other benefits channels like retail and urgent care. I guess what I would ask is, are you guys seeing anything that you can do to kind of lean into the market share shifts, where people are accessing the care delivery channel? And kind of like what do you see as the best opportunity to maximize that if we look out over the next six to 12 months?

Karen Lynch -- Executive Vice President and President, Aetna

So as you said, you know, consumer behaviors have changed dramatically because of COVID and we do believe that we need to meet people where they need to be met for their care delivery, having that be in our HealthHUBs and MinuteClinics, having that be through telehealth capabilities. And as we mentioned on our last call, we are building out E-Clinic capabilities so that we can certainly address when people want to have telehealth capabilities. We also see an advantage for people being in the home and we believe there's opportunities for serving members in their homes through our nurses and other services that we have yet to build out.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

And George, the only point I would add to that is keep in mind the regulations being relaxed have enabled a lot of what Karen just alluded to and the customer satisfaction, patient satisfaction around that is extremely high. And I am very optimistic that in a post-COVID world, we won't go backwards, OK, because those relaxed regulations are -- you got a high level of customer satisfaction. And in terms of what we're monitoring, there's also a high level of quality associated with how the services are being provided for today.

George Hill -- Deutsche Bank -- Analyst

OK. And if I could have a real quick follow-up for Karen. I want to ask a follow-up on Eric's question. What have you guys seen to be the most effective tools for flipping PDP members to MA and keep the member from kind of making a fresh plan decision from a vendor perspective or a carrier perspective if they want to make the PDP to MA flip?

Karen Lynch -- Executive Vice President and President, Aetna

Yeah. We've had tremendous success in doing that. You heard Eva earlier talk about the 40,000 members that we've moved. We really have a targeted strategy to identify those members that make the most sense.

We use our marketing tools and then, obviously, with our broker channel have those conversations. And now with the change in the pandemic, we're using a lot of digital capabilities to interact with those individuals, but we're quite pleased with the success that we've had. The product that we put in the marketplace has been very targeted and we're confident that we can continue to grow moving from PDP to MA.

George Hill -- Deutsche Bank -- Analyst

That's helpful. Thank you. And congrats again, guys.

Valerie Haertel -- Senior Vice President of Investor Relations

Next question, please.

Operator

We'll go next to Lance Wilkes with Bernstein.

Lance Wilkes -- Bernstein Research -- Analyst

Great. Certainly, congratulations to you, Karen and congratulations, Larry, on your tenure. I wanted to ask a question related to your go-to-market strategy and the way in which you're integrating HealthHUBs into the Aetna offerings, not just as an access point of things you might be doing with care management and things like that. I was interested in how it worked going into the 2021 sales cycle, how it's looking in 2022 as well.

Karen Lynch -- Executive Vice President and President, Aetna

Lance, let me comment on the national accounts. You recall that our first and foremost strategy was to deliver the medical pharmacy integration. We achieved over $300 million of additional pharmacy revenue as a result of that integration. Relative to the HealthHUBs, the MinuteClinics, I think what we've done here on these benefit designs, recognizing that 4 million people have already -- have benefit designs that support our HealthHUBs and support our MinuteClinics is truly a good indication that we -- that it's resonating.

We also are working with certain national accounts on piloting where HealthHUBs would be, kind of primary first place for them to go. So we have one large national account that's working with us to see how that would work. And we're excited about that possibility and then leveraging that to other national accounts. You know clearly, there's other opportunities from our Caremark business and let me have Alan talk about what those are as well.

Alan Lotvin -- executive Vice President and President of Caremark

Yeah. Lance, I would say, as we went through the 2021 selling season, the ability to use HealthHUBs was really demonstrative of the last-mile connectivity we have into members. And so it really was a very important part of a successful sales season in differentiating the enterprise and Caremark. So we're super excited to continue to drive these sort of new tools into the Caremark book of business.

The Caremark customers are very receptive, very responsive to some of our early pilots with Caremark health plan. So I think this is going to be a -- continue to be a real differentiator for the Caremark organization as well.

Lance Wilkes -- Bernstein Research -- Analyst

That's great. And just a quick follow-up on -- you know, with you moving up, Karen, to run the whole company, what are you guys thinking from leadership at Aetna? I know you've been adding talent in there. Just interested in any initial comments on that.

Karen Lynch -- Executive Vice President and President, Aetna

Yeah. We'll be announcing a leadership change shortly, so more news to come on that.

Lance Wilkes -- Bernstein Research -- Analyst

Thanks.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Next question.

Operator

We'll go next to Michael Cherny with Bank of America.

Michael Cherny -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch -- Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. And like some of the others, Larry, best of luck in retirement. It's been a pleasure working with you.

And Karen, congratulations on the new role and look forward to working more closely together. So again, best wishes to both of you. Thinking about the front end of the store. Clearly, there's been a redefining on how people are shopping, both in your stores and through some of the digital capabilities.

As you think about the next three years of -- the next five years, whatever the right number is, of the store-based build-out, store-based adjustments, how do you think about the changing dynamics of the types of SKUs that you want to use and also as well some of the potential investments you're making on the digital side specifically tied to front of store and the e-commerce channel, as much as you're doing some of the digital efforts on a lot of the pharmacy and obviously, across the rest of the business?

Jon Roberts -- Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

Yeah. Hi, Michael, this is Jon. So as you think about what we've done in the HealthHUBs and the SKU pivot that we did to more health and wellness products, skinning down general merchandise and we ended up taking space from the front end of the stores, and we're continuing to see an increase in sales in less space and an increase in margin. And so we've been able to take those learnings and move that out to the balance of the stores and that will continue to happen over time.

As we think about digital, our strategy is going to be anchored around the pharmacy customer and omnichannel and promoting products that are relevant to them based on what we know about them. And then allowing them to pick up their products, either at the store, through the drive-thru or sent to their home. And as you know, we have our CarePass program that we launched last year in August and we're up to 3.4 million members. And the encouraging thing is our enrollments have remained constant through COVID and CarePass enables that free delivery.

It enables them to come in and buy incremental front-store product as they participate in that program and we're seeing an additional trip from each of these members per month. And so we're very happy with linking all of these capabilities together.

Michael Cherny -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch -- Analyst

Got it. And then I know -- I don't want to get too much into '21 guidance beyond the baseline, the dynamics that you gave. But as you think about the incremental COVID-related costs you have in the store, how should we think, at least qualitatively, about how those should transition especially against the backdrop of the potential ramping of costs tied to hopeful vaccination process?

Eva Boratto -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. Michael, thanks for the question. As you think about the incremental operating costs, the PPE, the store cleaning, and those types of areas, I would think about those on a monthly run rate in the $7-ish million range. It obviously can fluctuate depending on what's going on in a particular area, in a particular market.

And as Larry said earlier, we have been investing and looking in terms of the testing going forward, readiness around being a vaccine distributor, and to be ready to deliver a vaccine when one comes to market.

Michael Cherny -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch -- Analyst

Great. Thanks.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Rita, we'll take two more questions, please.

Operator

Ann Hynes with Mizuho. Please go ahead.

Ann Hynes -- Mizuho Securities -- Analyst

Hi, good morning. Congratulations, Larry, on your retirement. You will be missed. And obviously, congratulations to you, Karen.

I have a Washington question to you, Larry. Over the past few years, you talked about removing the rebates from Medicare Part D has been a big overhang. And I feel like that's been a President Trump and Alex Azar issue. And now since Biden's likely going to win and HHS and CMS will change, can you just give us a feel for how much Democrats support that policy since it has been such a big overhang for your stock?

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. It's a great question, Ann. And you know, look, I wouldn't say that I could answer that there is one party preoccupation with rebates. And I think it comes back to the stories that we've told countless times in terms of the value that PBMs play in driving down the net cost of pharmaceuticals and the fact that the vast, vast majority of those rebate dollars get passed back to plan sponsors.

And you'll remember when we had the great debate as it related to the PDP program and the analytics that were done, not by us but by independent authorities that said that, premiums were going to go up for seniors by as much as 25% to 30%. And yes, as there were a relatively small percentage of higher utilizers that would net up favorably, but for more than 80% of seniors, their costs were going to go up as a result. And those facts haven't changed and it's those facts that killed that rebate roll from moving forward. And if we were to sit here today and reinvigorate that debate, we would be having the same discussion that we had a few months back.

Ann Hynes -- Mizuho Securities -- Analyst

All right. Great. And then also just on Biogen's Alzheimer's drug. I know we've talked about this before.

But obviously, the market really didn't think it was going to be approved and now there's a greater chance. I guess going into 2021, can you just talk about how this potential drug was underwritten in the managed care business? Thanks.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Ann, I would just say that -- and we'll talk more about that as we give our '21 guidance and outlook. That drug, we're still working to understand the indication in terms of -- you know, it's -- it is our understanding that it has a very narrow indication based on the symptoms that a particular patient may present. So it's -- there's more to come on that.

Karen Lynch -- Executive Vice President and President, Aetna

And I think, Ann, from an underwriting perspective, our actuaries always work closely with the clinical teams, understanding the pipelines, understanding the probabilities to factor in all of the variables to underwrite our business with the greatest level of accuracy possible.

Operator

Steve Valiquette with Barclays.

Steve Valiquette -- Barclays -- Analyst

Great. Thanks. Let me offer my congrats to Karen as well. And Larry, you had a pretty strong track record as CEO.

I think the company actually either met or exceeded the initial EPS guidance every single year since 2011, so congrats on a successful career. Just a couple of questions here for me. First, the monthly medical utilization trends on Slide 18 are pretty helpful. Is there any --

Valerie Haertel -- Senior Vice President of Investor Relations

Steve, we lost you.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Look, I think where Steve was going with the question was about the utilization trends in COVID. So Karen can --

Karen Lynch -- Executive Vice President and President, Aetna

Yeah. Let me just comment on utilization. As we've mentioned, utilization has been steadily rising since April. It does vary by segment.

We have our commercial segment that is back to almost near normal levels. Our Medicare business is slightly depressed. And you know relative to cost categories, we are continuing to see lower utilization in emergency room and inpatient, but above levels in specialty pharmacy, lab, and radiology. Obviously, it will vary by product and by geography and we're closely monitoring our utilization because of the COVID viruses in the certain geographies.

What's a -- relative to elective procedures, we have seen electives come back, but again, that varies by geography. We see it more depressed in areas that the virus has spiked. But overall, that's where utilization is and we're monitoring it very closely.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

So, Rita, do we have one more since Steve got cut off or is he back on?

Operator

We can go next to Justin Lake with Wolfe Research.

Justin Lake -- Wolfe Research -- Analyst

I'm going to thank Steve for that. Thanks for squeezing me in and congrats to Larry and Karen. A couple of follow-up questions here. First, on the 2021 outlook.

Specifically, in the second quarter, you talked about being on track with COVID being an uncertainty to that. Here, I hadn't heard you use that language. So is it fair to think that you feel like you've got a better view on, Eva, I think you said, puts and takes around COVID? And do you feel like 2021, you're on track even with the puts and takes of COVID?

Eva Boratto -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Hi, Justin. Thanks for that question. Absolutely. We provided the baseline jump off, $7.10, right in the middle of our initial guide, reflecting the underlying performance adjusting for the variables that I outlined in my prepared remarks.

Additionally, as I said, we remain committed and on track toward the mid single-digit targets that we have for 2021. As you've seen, quarter in, quarter out, our overall enterprise has been performing, delivering on the expectations that we have setand the assets are working together to deliver on our expectations.

Justin Lake -- Wolfe Research -- Analyst

Great. Thanks for that. And then just my last follow-up on you -- on you know, the pharmacy business. And specifically, you talked about the fact that the monthly numbers are really great.

I appreciate you offering those each quarter. September was really strong across the pharmacy business and I think you said it had to do both with early flu and COVID. October, a little weaker. I assume that's because of flu.

I think you noted that. Can you try to delineate that for us in terms of, how did flu impact September? And also, what are you seeing in terms of -- is there a number you can put around the benefits of COVID from a testing perspective that's running through the pharmacy? Thanks.

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Justin, it's Larry. And there's a couple of variables in play here. And if you go back to the March time frame when we saw a lot of pull-forward activity, especially with 90-day, you're going to see -- you know, you're going to continue to see some spike.

It's starting to even out where you saw this dynamic in March, but then you saw 90 days later in June, 90 days later in September. The second dynamic that we did see, flu vaccine -- the seasonal flu vaccine really spiked in September. You know we started -- we always start that program in very late August and we ran September where flu vaccines year over year were probably double what they were the prior year. Good news, people were heeding the public service advice in terms of the importance this year of [Audio gap] vaccine.

So as you move into October, that is beginning to normalize. So you don't see that spike continuing. You know and as you look at the comparison of seasonal flu year over year, the good news is we do not see any outbreaks at this point, even regionally, of the seasonal flu. And if you compare that to last year, the seasonal flu did begin in the month of October, so that is depressing the October numbers.

So hopefully, that gives you some context of the variables that are in play. And with that, look, it was a long call. I know there was an awful lot of information. We appreciate everybody joining us this morning and I think you hear our enthusiasm for the progress that we made, our Q3 results.

And please stay safe, stay healthy, and we'll talk to all of you soon.

Operator

[Operator signoff]

Duration: 76 minutes

Call participants:

Valerie Haertel -- Senior Vice President of Investor Relations

Larry Merlo -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Karen Lynch -- Executive Vice President and President, Aetna

Eva Boratto -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Lisa Gill -- J.P. Morgan -- Analyst

Eric Percher -- Nephron Research -- Analyst

Alan Lotvin -- executive Vice President and President of Caremark

Ricky Goldwasser -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

A.J. Rice -- Credit Suisse -- Analyst

Charles Rhyee -- Cowen and Company -- Analyst

George Hill -- Deutsche Bank -- Analyst

Lance Wilkes -- Bernstein Research -- Analyst

Michael Cherny -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch -- Analyst

Jon Roberts -- Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

Ann Hynes -- Mizuho Securities -- Analyst

Steve Valiquette -- Barclays -- Analyst

Justin Lake -- Wolfe Research -- Analyst

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