ALTIMMUNE INC (ALT) Q4 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

ALTIMMUNE INC (ALT 1.34%)
Q4 2020 Earnings Call
Feb 25, 2021, 8:30 a.m. ET

Contents:

• Prepared Remarks
• Questions and Answers
• Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Altimmune year-end 2020 earnings conference call. Currently all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the prepared remarks. [Operator instructions] As a remainder this conference is being recorded.

It is now my pleasure to introduce your host for today's call, Ms. Stacey Jurchison, senior director of investor relations and corporate communications at Altimmune. Stacey you may begin.

Stacey Jurchison -- Senior Director of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications

Thank you, operator, and good morning everyone. Thank you for participating in Altimmune's year-end 2020 earnings conference call. Leading the call today will be Vipin Garg, our chief executive officer. Additional members of the Altimmune executive team participating on the call today are Will Brown, our chief financial officer; Scot Roberts, our chief scientific officer; and Scott Harris, our chief medical officer.

Following the prepared remarks, we will hold a question-and-answer session. A press release with our year-end 2020 financial results was issued last night and can be found on the IR section of our company's website. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that remarks about future expectations, plans and prospects constitute forward-looking statements for purposes of Safe Harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Altimmune cautions that these forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated, including those related to COVID-19 and its impact on our business operations, clinical trials and results of operations.

For a discussion of some of the risks and factors that could affect the company's future results, please see the risk factors and other cautionary statements contained in the company's filings with the SEC. I would also direct you to read the forward-looking statements disclaimer in our earnings press release issued this morning and now available on our website.Any statements made on this conference call speak only as of today's date, Tuesday, February 25, 2021. And the company does not undertake any obligation to update any of these forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that occur on or after today's date. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and will be available for audio rebroadcast on Altimmune's website.

With that, I will now turn the call over to Dr. Vipin Garg, chief executive officer of Altimmune.

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Stacey, and good morning everyone. We appreciate you joining us today for a discussion about 2020 financial and operating results, and a 2021 business outlook. Without hesitation I can proudly say that 2020 was the transformative year for Altimmune and our shareholders. Our historical development efforts lays the groundwork to enable us to unlock the value of our portfolio as we advance our five novel product candidates in clinical development.

I'm pleased to say that each of our candidates has the opportunity to reach value inflection points in 2021 and beyond. Never in our history have we had such an impressive portfolio with so many opportunities to build value. As you will hear about in more detail shortly from Scot Roberts and Scott Harris, we believe the intranasal vaccines and peptide therapeutics are developing may provide novel solutions to unmet medical needs and potentially have highly favorable attributes that are differentiated from existing therapies or treatment approaches. As a pioneer in intranasal vaccine development, Altimmune has a rich history of vaccine innovation in this field.

Last year, we developed this expertise in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Bringing our COVID-19 vaccine candidate AdCOVID from concept to clinical development and this morning we announced the enrollment of the first subject in our Phase 1 clinical trial. If successful, we believe that AdCOVID could offer important benefits in our fight against the SARS-CoV-2 Virus. Unlike currently authorized vaccines AdCOVID potentially offers ease of administration and deployment, optimal target product profile for use in pediatric population.

The potential for improved tolerability and safety and the ability to stimulate mucosal immunity in the nasal cavity, which we believe will be critical for preventing viral transmission. If the clinical data for AdCOVID parallel the preclinical findings and our clinical experience with our nasal vaccine influenza vaccine candidates, AdCOVID could become a leading candidate for COVID-19 vaccination and revaccination. And with the virus continuing to mutate, creating new variants the need for improved vaccines with the potential to block transmission grows increasingly more urgent. We also progressed our novel investigational T-COVID immunotherapeutics into clinical testing in 2020, and look forward to data from our Phase 1/2 study evaluating among other things, its ability to prevent progression to severe COVID-19.

T-COVID may provide a truly differentiated approach toward treating COVID-19, and we are pleased with the ongoing progress on this program. During the past year, we also completed dosing in a Phase 1b clinical trial of NasoShield, our BARDA funded intranasal vaccines for anthrax and we expect to share the data from that trial with you in the coming weeks. Moving through our peptide based liver disease programs, both ALT-801 and HepTcell made important stride in 2020. With ALT-801 beginning Phase 1 development and HepTcell advancing into Phase 2 development.

We think ALT-801 is an specialty promising candidate in the metabolic disease category. As a balanced GLP-1/glucagon dual-agonist ALT-801 may have best-in-class attributes, leveraging potent metabolic synergies and improved GI tolerability. Given its platform in a drug potential to address both NASH and obesity in a multi-billion dollar market, we are excited to see this compound advance and reach significant data inflection points this year. Finally 2020 was also a formidable year from a capital raising perspective.

During the year we strengthened our balance sheet and in 2020 with approximately $216 million in cash, cash equivalents and investments, so we are well capitalized to advance our portfolio through important upcoming value inflection points this year. I will now turn the call over to our chief scientific officer, Scot Roberts to give you an update on our pipeline. Scot?

Scot Roberts -- Chief Scientific Officer

Thank you, Vipin, and good morning everyone. It's been an especially rewarding year at Altimmune from a scientific perspective, as we deploy our expertise to initiate clinical development programs for AdCOVID and T-COVID to do our part to help fight this devastating pandemic. As Vipin mentioned, we believe AdCOVID has unique attributes that distinguish it from other currently authorized vaccines, most notably the simple intranasal dosing has potential for single-dose protection and potential to provide both systemic neutralizing antibody and local mucosal immunity in the respiratory track. Additionally, we've seen excellent tolerability in our NasoVax and NasoShield clinical studies, which are based on the same platform technology is AdCOVID, with its anticipated ability to be distributed at room temperature and stored in refrigerator for years, we believe AdCOVID could be a key COVID-19 vaccine for both vaccination and revaccination, and can play an important role in helping facilitate and then to the global health crisis.

During the past year, we completed and provided outline the results of preclinical studies of AdCOVID demonstrating compelling results. Briefly these data showed strong activation of all three arms of the adaptive immune system by that, I mean high systemic serum neutralizing antibody titers, robust T-cell responses to the viral spike protein primarily of the killer CD8 T-cell type and importantly T-cells of the resident memory type were also observed in the lung poised there to combat viral infection. And finally, and most importantly, the preclinical data showed a pronounced induction of mucosal IgA specific to the spike protein in the respiratory track following the single intranasal dose of AdCOVID. We were very encouraged by these data and believed that the robust IgA response combined with the lung associated with tissue resident memory T-cell response may yield an enhanced level of immune protection against COVID-19 disease and importantly transmission.

Also during the year we expanded our collaboration with the University of Alabama at Birmingham, and established a new collaboration with Saint Louis University to build on the accumulating preclinical data for AdCOVID. Specifically, these studies we are conducting with these collaborators are designed to evaluate the efficacy of AdCOVID and challenge models demonstrate its ability to reduce viral transmission and evaluate heterologous prime boost vaccine regimens. Data from these studies are expected later this quarter. As you know the COVID-19 field is a highly dynamic and rapidly evolving landscape.

The emergence of SARS-CoV-2 variants is troubling and is raise concerns about the effectiveness of currently authorized vaccines. While we are hopeful that existing vaccines will maintain their efficacy in the face of these variants, we need to prepare for this uncertainty. Importantly, we have already initiated a development program to address these emerging variants. Our lab is creating bioseed stocks against the South African, and UK variance among others.

And we are adapting our development plans to evaluate these new AdCOVID vaccines and advanced clinical studies as part of our overall AdCOVID development plan. With the emergence of these various, we see the playing field for COVID-19 vaccines evolving. As vaccine developers will be required to adapt their vaccine programs to respond to these various. As the AdCOVID clinical program advances and we established proof of concept in our Phase 1 and Phase 2 studies we are positioning ourselves to advance development of variant COVID vaccine – AdCOVID vaccines later this year in parallel with the adaptations authorized vaccine manufacturers are making.

We'll recognize that we will need to establish herd immunity to extinguish the pandemic. But achieving this level of immunity in the population will be challenging. Polls have shown that there is a high degree of fear and hesitation in our population regarding vaccination. Unfortunately up to 30% of respondents polled indicate they will not get vaccinated.

This may be influenced by reports of side effects, which have been observed with the currently authorized vaccines, particularly following administration of the second dose. And it is here that are potential for improved tolerability may be important. The emergence of viral vaccines may create an opportunity for AdCOVID to be used if approved as a booster can previously vaccinated individuals to not only potentially provide protection against circulating variants, but also to potentially provide the additional benefit of mucosal immunity; they can only be achieved through nasal administration.On this front we are engaged in discussions with key players around the concept of a heterologous vaccine regimen. Most experts believe that the SARS-CoV-2 Virus will become endemic and will continue to circulate in the population for years to come much like the seasonal flu, underscoring the importance and value of vaccines with improved immunogenicity and tolerability.

There is also a growing acknowledgment that a suitable vaccine for children is increasingly important priority. As demonstrated in our NasoShield and NasoVax clinical trials we believe that the expected attributes of AdCOVID make it ideally suited for use in a pediatric setting as the intranasal administration and expected tolerability profile are well-suited to meet the needs of children. We will remain focused on the pediatric segment of the population as we develop our long range clinical and regulatory strategy for AdCOVID. Finally, I should point out that in addition to the attributes I've discussed earlier, AdCOVID may be further differentiated from other COVID-19 vaccines, from logistics and distribution perspective.

Based on the data from other intranasal vaccine candidates we expect AdCOVID to have extended stability, which is demonstrated would allow for transport at room temperature in storage and simple refrigerators, potentially for years without loss in potency making AdCOVID extremely practical to use. Given the advantages of our approach, we believe that if the clinical data support our expectations, AdCOVID could become an important part of the global solution to the pandemic and continued presence of the virus as a leading player in the COVID-19 vaccine landscape. I'll now turn the call over to our chief medical officer, Scott Harris to provide a clinical update on AdCOVID and our other programs. Scott?

Scott Harris -- Chief Medical Officer

Thank you, Scot, and good morning everyone. As Vipin said at the outset of the call, this is a very important year for Altimmune from a clinical perspective, with five of our pipeline candidates now advancing into clinical development and meaningful data readouts anticipated throughout the year. That said we are pleased to announce the initiation of our AdCOVID Phase 1 clinical trial today, given the known and potential advantages of an intranasal vaccine approach. There is considerable interest in our AdCOVID program.

To briefly recap the Phase 1 trial will evaluate the safety and immunogenicity of AdCOVID in up to 180 healthy adult volunteers between the ages of 18 and 55. Volunteers will receive AdCOVID at one of three dose levels administered as a nasal spray. While the experience from our influenza vaccine platform in preclinical experiments from the University of Alabama at Birmingham indicates that AdCOVID should be effective after a single dose. We plan to study the effects of both prime and prime boost in this study.

In addition to the primary study endpoint of safety and tolerability, the immunogenicity of AdCOVID will be evaluated by serum IgG binding and neutralizing antibody titers, mucosal IgA antibody from nasal samples, and T cell responses. We anticipate a full data read out from this Phase 1 trial in the second quarter of 2021. We continue to explore additional development opportunities for AdCOVID, including as Scott mentioned, designing studies to address the efficacy of AdCOVID against variant straints use in a heterologous prime boost regimen and use in a pediatric setting. As the understanding of the pandemic constantly shifts we remain nimble and will continue to adopt our development path to address these evolving needs and opportunities, most importantly visibility into the Phase 1 clinical data, which we expect to have in the second quarter, will guide these opportunities.

Moving on our Phase 1/2 clinical trial where T-COVID has made solid progress. We have completed dosing in the first and second study cohorts, which are predominantly safety cohorts and will soon commence enrollment, and the third and final study cohort – the cohort focused on both safety and efficacy. Cohort 3 includes patients at higher risk for severe COVID-19 infection, such as those 65 years of age or older, or those with one or more risk factors for severe COVID-19 complications. The study is being overseen by an independent data monitoring committee and no significant safety signals have been observed to-date.

The demographics hospitalization rates and death rates with COVID-19 have evolved over the past year. And this has required changes to the protocol to optimizing the chances of a meaningful trial readout. To ensure that a sufficient number of higher risk patients are enrolled to maximize the quality of the data readout, the study protocol was modified to require that a minimum number of patients meet one or more of these criteria in this final cohort and further modifications are being evaluated thanks to cohort 3. Based on the protocol modification and the anticipated rate of enrollment we now expect that the data readout from this study will occur in the second quarter of 2021.

We feel confident about these protocol changes because while the timeline has been extended, we do expect them to enhance the probability of a meaningful trial outcome. As a reminder, this trial was designed to evaluate the potential protective effects of T-COVID in preventing clinical worsening in patients with early COVID-19 symptoms. We expect to enroll up to 100 patients who are being randomized one-to-one to receive intranasal T-COVID or placebo administered in a non-hospitalized setting shortly after the onset of symptoms. The primary efficacy endpoint is the proportion of patients with clinical worsening, defined as a 4% decrease in pulse oxygen saturation, or the need for hospitalization.

Shifting gears now, let me provide an update on our liver programs. Last year was an important year for the ALT-801 program as we achieved a major milestone initiating the first-in-human study of this compound. The Phase 1 trial, which commenced in December in Australia, will enroll approximately 100 subjects in 86-week single ascending dose in six-week multiple ascending dose study. The primary pharmacodynamic endpoints are weight loss and reduction in liver fat, and we expect to have six-week data readouts and weight loss and liver fat reduction in the second quarter of 2021.

These outcomes in particular have been associated with NASH resolution and fibrosis improvement in advanced clinical trials. We recently amended the study protocol to continue our clinical trial in Australia and plan now to incorporate the 12-week study in patients with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease or NAFLD into this study. We believe that by incorporating the 12-week extension into this study, we can avoid any potential impact of COVID-19 and maintain study timelines. The 12-week data on weight loss liver fat reduction in noninvasive markers of inflammation are expected in the third quarter of 2021.

If the data from this study are positive we expected transition rapidly to a full Phase 2 biopsy based trial on NASH endpoints in early 2022. The market opportunity for balanced dual-agonist GLP-1/glucagon candidate is substantial. Also remains a significant unmet need for NASH therapeutic, potentially such as like ALT-801 with a pre-K profile that permits once weekly dosing as well as improved GI tolerability. As the evolving clinical data for tirzepatide illustrate improvements in weight loss can be achieved over GLP-1 monotherapy with a dual agonist strategy, such as ALT-801.

However, while the safety profile of tirzepatide was generally similar to that of the well-established GLP-1 receptor class clinical benefit was realized only with a protracted 20 week incremental dose titration schedule and a significant number of dropouts due to GI side effects still occurred. Clearly there is room for improvement in this class. Based on our dose modeling with ALT-801, we have reasons to anticipate robust weight loss and an acceptable safety and tolerability profile without the need to dose titrate. Keep in mind as well the preclinical data for ALT-801 demonstrated superiority to semaglutide and overall weight loss reduction in liver fat, NASH improvement and effects in liver fibrosis.

If these results can be substantiated in the clinic, we believe that ALT-801 will present a significant opportunity in the metabolic disease space. Moving on to our HepTcell program, we achieved another important milestone in 2020 convincing our Phase 2 development program. The Phase 2 trial was designed to evaluate the antiviral activity of HepTcell in chronically infected Hepatitis B patients and is an important milestone in our mission to develop a functional cure for this disease. The unmet medical need in chronic Hepatitis B remains high as currently approved therapies to achieve minimal rates of functional cures.

Similar to ALT-801 we protect HepTcell to be multi-billion dollar opportunity of successful. The Phase 2 trial was expected for enroll up to 80 patients with chronic Hepatitis B. HepTcell will be administered intramuscularly once monthly for a total of six doses. The primary end point is virologic response with secondary end points of safety, immunologic criteria, and other assessments of neurologic response.

We participate having a data readout from this study in the first half of 2022. Finally, before we wrap-up we completed dosing in our Phase 1b clinical trial of NasoShield for anthrax last year. The data readout from this trial was projected to be available in the coming weeks. As we're developing NasoShield under a contract with BARDA, if NasoShield is shown to be safe and sufficiently immunogenicity.

We could be eligible to receive the remaining options under our $133.7 million contract with BARDA. We could be awarded the fund Phase 2 clinical testing followed by the stockpile if NasoShield in the strategic national stockpile. And with that, I will now turn the call over to Will Brown, our chief financial officer. Will?

Will Brown -- Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Scot, and good morning, everyone. For today's call I'll be providing a brief update on Altimmune's year-end 2020 financial and operating results. More comprehensive information can be found in our Form 10-K filed with the SEC today. Altimmune ended 2020 with cash and short-term investments totaling $216 million.

The increase in our net cash year-over-year is the result of the receipt of approximately $124 million and net proceeds from a public offering $48 million in net proceeds from the issuance to common stock from our ATM Program and $41 million in proceeds from the exercise of warrants. Today, we entered into an equity distribution agreement with Piper Sandler, Evercore, and B. Riley under which we may offer and sell up to $125 million of our common stock for working capital in general corporate purposes. We feel this is a good corporate housekeeping measure, which gives us optionality into the future.

We are solidly capitalized to advance our pipeline candidates through at least the next 12 months of operations sending results from our ongoing clinical programs. A significant element of our anticipated cash utilization in 2021 will be directed toward manufacturing scale-up and advanced clinical trials as we progress AdCOVID through development. Turning to the income statement; revenues in 2020 was $8.2 million compared to $5.8 million in 2019. The change in revenues year over year reflects an increase in revenue from our U.S.

government contracts due to the timing of manufacturing and clinical trial activities for both our NasoShield and T-COVID programs. Research and development expenses were $49.8 million in 2020, compared to $17.8 million in the prior year. The increase was primarily attributable to increased costs related to the development of AdCOVID,-T COVID and ALT-801 and includes an increase in the contingent liability for stock-based milestone payments associated with the acquisition of ALT-801. General and administrative expenses were $13.2 million in 2020, compared to $8.5 million in 2019.

The increase year over year is attributable to additional employee compensation as Altimmune's workforce expanded during the year, as well as increased professional costs. Income tax benefit in 2020 was $5.4 million compared to $60,000 in the prior year. The increase is attributable to the CARES Act passed on March 27, 2020, which may temporary changes regarding the utilization and carry-back of net operating losses. We are in the process of filing refund claims with federal and state authorities to collect this cash benefits.

Net loss attributed to common stock holders for the year ended December 31, 2020 was $49 million or $1.91 net loss per share compared to $20.9 million in the prior year or $1.60 net loss per year. The difference in net loss is primarily attributable to higher research and development expenses and G&A expenses offset the higher revenue and an increase in the income tax benefit. I will now turn it back over to Vipin for his closing remarks. Vipin?

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Will and Scot Roberts, Scott Harris for your remarks. The tremendous effort and dedication the entire Altimmune team has tirelessly demonstrated over the past year has brought us to this important juncture. With each of our portfolio candidates now in clinical development and poised to make important advances this year. As you heard on this call, we have a data and catalyst-rich period ahead of us.

As we anticipate multiple data readouts from four of these programs in 2021. AdCOVID, T-COVID, ALT-801 and NasoShield with HepTcell data anticipated in 2022. If successful, we believe that each one of these programs has the potential to advance science and medicine and address important outstanding unmet best patient needs. We're extremely proud of where we have come as a company in a short time and where we are positioned today.

And we look forward with much anticipation to the future. We will continue to work tirelessly for patients and for our shareholders to realize the full potential and value of the opportunities in our portfolio. We look forward to keeping in touch and keeping you appraised of our progress as the year unfolds. Once again, I thank you for your continued support of Altimmune and for your participation on our call today.

Operator, that concludes my formal remarks. Could you please instruct the audience on the Q&A procedure?

Questions & Answers:

Operator

Thank you. [Operator instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Yasmeen Rahimi with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question.

Unknown speaker

Hi. This is Rachel on for Yasmeen. Thanks very much for taking our questions. Can you provide us with some color on what type of activities are going on to additional AdCOVID metric? Are you targeting the emerging size COVID 2 variant? And how long will it take to develop new investors to combat [inaudible]? Thank you.

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Good morning, Scot Roberts, do you want to take that question please?

Scot Roberts -- Chief Scientific Officer

Sure and good morning. So the preparations that are currently under way include making a variant of vaccines against the primary variants that are circulating the South African, the UK, the one in California. We see there's a new one here in New York that shares a lot of commonality with the South African. And so it's easy for us to make these changes within the vaccine and our goal is to create a number of bioseed stocks, and have those prepared and released so they can be used for GMP manufacturing in preparation for trial conducted in a region where the variant is circulating.

So this is really all about getting ahead of the curve, doing our best with the information that's available to us, to make these variants and have them ready-to-go so that we can then execute. So the whole process is fairly quick for vector like ours and to have these then available to us and dropped into the manufacturing process, which is the same as we've discussed earlier for all of our vaccines, which is a tremendous advantage then that puts us in the best position to respond quickly to whatever the current environment is.

Unknown speaker

Thank you. That's incredibly helpful. And can you also provide some color on how discussions are going with regulators in regard to design and considerations for pediatric trial? And when can we expect details on timelines for pediatric trial? Thank you.

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

Scott Harris do you want to take that question please?

Scott Harris -- Chief Medical Officer

Sure. Good morning, Rachel. Yes, we're having active discussions right now with the agency. There's nothing that we can really disclose at this point because those discussions are not final, but we're looking to implement a pediatric trial in the middle of the current year.

Unknown speaker

Thank you so much, and congratulations on your progress.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from line of Seamus Fernandez with Guggenheim. Please proceed with your question.

Seamus Fernandez -- Guggenheim Securities -- Analyst

Great. Thanks for the question. So, yes, congratulations on all the advancement. Just wanted to ask a couple of questions here.

First off could you guys update us? I know you've kind of got these single ascending dose that's proceeded with 801, obviously, I love the decision to move forward and have the Australian trial expand to the 12 weeks. So can you just update us a little bit or do you have some visibility from that trial in terms of the tolerability profile, from the single ascending dose program? Incremental to that on the prime boost plans, could you guys just give us a general sense of what type of a product you think would be the ideal partner on for your assets and are you in discussions with some of the potential players that are already in mark or poised to be in market as a partner vaccine or positive prime boost. To us it seems like a really unique opportunity to collaborate especially given the need to potentially reduce transmission with the antibiotic program? And I have a couple of other follow-up questions, but let's start with those two.

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. So good morning Seamus. Maybe we can take these questions in reverse order and go to your question about the prime boost first. Scot Roberts, do you want to take that and just describe the features of the ideal candidate for prime boost?

Scot Roberts -- Chief Scientific Officer

Sure. Vipin, happy to and good morning, Seamus. So we think about what's the best way to move forward as a community to respond to the pandemic. Obviously you wanted well-tolerated vaccine and you want a vaccine that can block transmission because it's through transmission and through the growth of the virus and other individuals that these variants that, that we're wrestling with pop-up and so.

Cutting that off at the start is clearly advantageous. And so without mucosal immunity, which is clearly best suited to block infection and block transmission and our anticipated exceptional tolerability profile we think that as a boost to whatever regimen, AdCOVID offers a significant advantages. So that, that said obviously a boosting a strong prior immune response is going to be more beneficial than boosting a weak response. And I say that having a T-cell response will also be helpful because then with mucosal administration, you can pull those T-cells into the respiratory tract, further improving the immunity.

So, I think that there are probably some better and some with our second tier of nations, but in the general sense that's how we're thinking about things.

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

And I would just add that it's important to realize that if COVID-19 out of this disease becomes an endemic, we're going to need yearly boost. So it really doesn't matter what vaccine people received at the beginning. You're going to need after-year; you're going to need a boost. So as long as you have a safe and well-tolerated vaccine, that's blocking transmission and developing this new course and immunity, we think we can really be used as a boost with any of the existing vaccines.

So along those lines, obviously the data will dictate that, but we'll see how the whole field develops.

Seamus Fernandez -- Guggenheim Securities -- Analyst

And maybe if I can, can you guys update us how you're thinking about the updated FDA guidance? Obviously there's a lot in there, but in terms of the guidance on variants in particular how are you thinking about the development of an advancing your own vaccine, targeting your own AdCOVID targeting those variants? Are we talking about variance intranasal administration, original plus a variant prime boost, multi-family constructs, I'm just trying to get a sense of what's possible and how you're thinking about the updated FDA guidance. I think that's probably the big question that the investors are wrestling with right now?

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Scott Harris, do you want to address the regulatory perspective the FDA guidance?

Scott Harris -- Chief Medical Officer

Yes. And good morning again, Seamus. So the guidance that was was oriented predominantly to vaccines that are under EUA. So there's a bit of guesswork as to how to apply to vaccines that have not currently done clinical trials.

Clearly there's going to be a need to establish the effectiveness of a vaccine oriented around a strain. We would hope that that could be done by a correlative protection, in other words based on immunogenicity, but that will rather than a full clinical trial. So there's a potential there of not conducting a full Phase 3 trial, but we don't know what that current potential is. And there's clearly a great interest in the use of boosters against the variants in order to get protection against those new strains.

And again, the concept would be that this would base to be based on an immunogenicity rather than a clinical readout, but we're going to have to see how the agency treats the vaccines that do not currently have us.

Seamus Fernandez -- Guggenheim Securities -- Analyst

Got it. Perfect.

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

And Scott Harris, do you want to address the question about 801?

Scott Harris -- Chief Medical Officer

Yes. Sure. So Seamus, we are very happy with the way the trial is proceeding right now. We've made a decision not to make any announcements about we'll look at the data so far, because that would constitute enormous analyses, which are not provided for in the protocol and would be disruptive to the commitments made to regulators.

So what I can say in general is that the trial is progressing well. It's moving ahead the way we taught and we're going to have the readouts which we believe will be very positive for six weeks in the second quarter; and for 12 weeks in the third quarter.

Seamus Fernandez -- Guggenheim Securities -- Analyst

OK. Maybe just one final question. Can you just update us on sort of the structure of the U.S. IND going forward? And that's my final question, just in terms of the advancement into sort of the full NASH program, just wanted to get a sense of what the needs are from the IND perspective, and then with the data that you have from Australia, do you believe that you can initiate the full Phase 2 NASH study using those data? Thanks.

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes, absolutely. So very often, in fact most cases the IND is filed before clinical trials, but many sponsors, Seamus have chosen to go outside of the U.S. and their Phase 1 particularly Australia and the FDA is very comfortable with that. So we'll actually coming to the IND process with clinical data rather than just preclinical data, which puts us at a great advantage in terms of the discussions.

And in fact specifically how the program was designed to have a much later discussion of the clinical program at the time of IND, because we were coming in with clinical data. That IND is to setup the Phase 2 trial that we talked about earlier in the presentation. And we anticipate it will be filed approximately in the middle of this year. We obviously will have clinical data from the Phase 1 trial to support that.

So we're very happy with the timing and we feel very confident about the ability to initiate that Phase 2 trial in the first part of 2022.

Seamus Fernandez -- Guggenheim Securities -- Analyst

That is super helpful. Thanks so much, guys.

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kelechi Chikere with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Kelechi Chikere -- Jefferies -- Analyst

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I was hoping to get some clarification on the timing for data for AdCOVID; I know there was a belief that you could potentially have data on a subset of patients by the end of this quarter and full dating in Q2, but it looks like at least in the PR you're mentioning full data in Q2 with no mention of any substantive data in Q1. Can you clarify that for us? And my second question is related to, what do you think the [inaudible] is for moving at COVID into a Phase 2? Do you need to see neutralizing antibodies in the nasal cavity as well as in the serum before you say; OK this is something that could be moving into a Phase 2.

And the reason why I'm asking that is because as you think about running a Phase 2 or Phase 3, based on potential in trying to get potential approval based on surrogate protection. How important are those markers for that eventual approval etc.?

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

Scott Harris, do you want to talk and maybe Scot Roberts can jump in.

Scott Harris -- Chief Medical Officer

Sure. Again, good morning, Kelechi. So we've not made any changes in our position. What we're emphasized here is the availability of what we consider to be meaningful data.

So while we will have data in the first quarter, we wanted to emphasize that the meaningful readout would occur in the second quarter. And we're emphasizing that in the call today in the press release. And that's when we really feel that the full communication, on the trial results can occur. I'll defer to the second question to Scot to answer.

Scot Roberts -- Chief Scientific Officer

Yes. Good morning. So on the point; what do we need to see to confident advancing? I think that neutralizing antibodies are clearly part of the picture, a, that's how it's really the only measure because our strong T-cell induction and our unique ability to generate mucosal immunity, because those are those unique attributes and so difficult to compare across platforms until the neutralizing antibodies is going to give everybody the confidence that this thing is working the way we expect it to, and then also will be necessary for use of a surrogate potential is going to move before. We think that thing is moving along very quickly and that there's a real opportunity there.

And by the time we're in advanced clinical studies to take advantage of that surrogate, next is going to be based on neutralizing antibody. So that's clearly a key. As far as the neutralizing the nasal cavity, that's something that we'll be looking at and that's fine. I think for the Phase 1, clear demonstration that we have the induction of IgA, like we've seen in all of our other intra-nasal clinical studies is expected.

And I think that being to check that box. Neutralizing whether or not what those assays get executed. And with that, depending on a number of other factors, we don't see that is necessarily critical at this stage. There is a number of other opportunities to validate the role of the mucosal immunity.

It's already been established with influenza and RSV. And we're looking at those, and so in the Phase 1, I think the presence of IgA and clearly the neutralizing antibodies, and of course we'll have the T-cell data also.

Kelechi Chikere -- Jefferies -- Analyst

Perfect. Thank you very much. That's really helpful.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mayank Mamtani with B.Riley FBR. Please proceed with your question.

Mayank Mamtani -- B. Riley FBR -- Analyst

A good morning team. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the progress. I mean, first focusing on the first quarter catalyst. Can you talk a little bit about the design of the heterologous study that it seems like you added Saint Louis University to the collaboration recently? Can you just talk about what is the design? What animal model you're looking at and insight of what helps you understand better about the transmission blockade of AdCOVID from that study?

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Good morning, Mayank. So we're in that study where the model is the transgenic mouse model. That's the model after Saint Louis is been using for a while and it's a very, very expert at.

And what we're doing is comparing the vaccine activities and efficacies of a RNA vaccine that closely mimics the RNA vaccines that are currently authorized and AdCOVID. So these will be used as single agents and then combined in a heterologous prime boost, looking at order of addition, which vaccine comes first to understand the overall immune responses, which order provides the best immune response? How best to control and close the replication of the virus in the respiratory tract. And so really just understanding the system of how the interaction of two different vaccines proceeds. Obviously, if we can reduce the amount of viral shedding or replication, and ideally even remove it completely, that has a direct knockdown effects for transmission.

So that's kind of like the 30,000 foot overview for the studies that are going on there at Saint Louis University.

Mayank Mamtani -- B. Riley FBR -- Analyst

Great. And maybe the second question, if I can follow-up on your comments made previously on the FDA guidance and also on the experience with flu. Now, if you think about that NASH factors, the FDA guidance was not very clear in quantifying, which does to be a positive for the field that the ball is not that high. But I'm just curious what do you think relative to natural infection, your NASH should be, when you think about progression for the next step.

Any quantities color you can provide?

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

I'm reluctant to do that because currently I think we're getting close to having a harmonized assay's performed with harmonized reagents. And so you can really do the comparisons and understand what's going on. This is what they got. This is what we got in a meaningful way.

We're not there yet. The temperature has released at the end of last year. The critical reagents that are necessary that I have assigned values for neutralization then IgG binding, and so that's going to be critical. I mean, I think we all have a sense of what, like a neutralizing titer like 20 or something like that is not going to be too exciting, but I think we get up into the 100s, when compared that to a convalescent serum that's available and we can put these things in perspective.

And I think to be a quantitative at this stage right now is less informative. I think that we're getting close though to having those types of conversations that everybody wants to have. How will these things really do relate to each other, but we're not quite there yet.

Mayank Mamtani -- B. Riley FBR -- Analyst

Got it. And obviously in the context of the emerging variants, that could become even more interesting, I mean I kind of listen to the numbers could also change, but maybe just a final question was under modularity of the platform. As you saw from the testimony given by the prime [inaudible] vaccines on Tuesday, it does seems like adenovirus platform in general may not have the same timelines in which they can come up with the new vaccine for the variant. I'm just curious like, with your platform again, I'm clear on timing, but still can you provide the differences between adenovector versus the Ad26 that is part of the NDA vaccine?

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

Sure. So, you're right. There are vectors unchanged as quickly the RNA, and that's why the RNA vaccines are really got the attention and the initial funding to get where they are now in that that's fantastic. The important question is how quickly can we make the variance in relation to the evolving landscape of circulation of that variant.

And so we can make these things in a very short amount of time in order of a month and have these ready. And so the bio-dynamics and the population are not changing that quickly. There is plenty of time to understand what's going on? Where you doing your work? And have the right vaccine. So yes, not as fast but fast enough, yes, also to that.

Mayank Mamtani -- B. Riley FBR -- Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my question.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan Wolleben with JMP Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Jonathan Wolleben -- JMP Securities -- Analyst

Hey, good morning, and congrats on all the progress. Just two questions for me. Talk a lot about AdCOVID, I was hoping if you can extract the way that things go as planned, what the next NASH look like in terms of next study, if that could be registrational and when that could kick-off? And then second question on 801. You discussed that you're expecting robust reductions in liver fat and body weight.

I was hoping you could help us quantify kind of expectations. Given this first readout will be six weeks in duration?

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

Scott Harris, I think you can handle both of these.

Scott Harris -- Chief Medical Officer

Yes. Good morning, Jonathan. So we are – we've just initiated the Phase 1 trial of AdCOVID with a readout that will occur – a full readout, which will occur now in the second quarter. And we are planning right on the heels of that to initiate a Phase 2 trial, which would probably start toward the end of the second quarter.

And that trial was looking like a traditional Phase 2 trial with studying all age groups, as well as a larger number of patients on the immunogenicity and safety read-outs. Regarding the second question, I'm going to defer to comments that were made by [inaudible] recent conference call, and also look at the semaglutide data that was recently published in New England Journal on a weight loss trial. That was not a NASH trial, but the results of that trial are very similar to the NASH trial that was published at the end of last year. And with that at six weeks, they had a reduction of 3%.

Now it should be pointed out that all subjects in that trial were placed on a restricted diet with a net negative of 500 kilocalories per day, as well as exercise and with that even the placebo subjects in the six weeks lost 1%. So if one were to take the 3% growth and subtract the baseline at 1% due to dive-in exercise which cannot implement in a Phase 1 study, because it's a safety and tolerability study, not an efficacy trial, and that we couldn't do in a Phase 1 first in human trial. If you look at the net, its six weeks, it would be 2%. Now we think that's the floor, but we think that's a minimum the show that we're at least on par with semaglutide, and we think we can do better.

Jonathan Wolleben -- JMP Securities -- Analyst

That's very helpful. Thanks again and congrats on all the progress.

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen that concludes our question-and-answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Garg for any final comments.

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Thank you everyone for listening in today. We hope you'll join us on our next quarterly earnings call and have a nice day.

Operator

[Operator signoff]

Duration: 57 minutes

Call participants:

Stacey Jurchison -- Senior Director of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications

Vipin Garg -- Chief Executive Officer

Scot Roberts -- Chief Scientific Officer

Scott Harris -- Chief Medical Officer

Will Brown -- Chief Financial Officer

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Seamus Fernandez -- Guggenheim Securities -- Analyst

Kelechi Chikere -- Jefferies -- Analyst

Mayank Mamtani -- B. Riley FBR -- Analyst

Jonathan Wolleben -- JMP Securities -- Analyst

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