Appian (APPN) Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Appian (APPN 4.19%)
Q1 2023 Earnings Call
May 09, 2023, 4:30 p.m. ET

Contents:

• Prepared Remarks
• Questions and Answers
• Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Appian first quarter 2023 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator instructions].

Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Sri Anantha, senior director of finance, investor relations. Please go ahead.

Sri Anantha -- Director, Investor Relations

Thank you, Operator. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us to review Appian's first quarter 2023 financial results. With me today are Matt Calkins, chairman and chief executive officer; and Mark Matheos, chief financial officer. After prepared remarks, we'll open the call for questions.

Today, you will want to follow along with our earnings presentation. You can download it from the main page of our investors' site at investors.appian.com. During this call, we may make statements related to our business that are forward-looking under federal securities laws and are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These include comments related to our financial results, trends, and guidance for the second quarter and full year 2023; the benefits of our platform, industry, and market trends; our go-to-market and growth strategy; our market opportunity and ability to expand our leadership position; our ability to maintain and upsell existing customers; and our ability to acquire new customers.

The words anticipate, continue, estimate, expect, intend, will, and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements or similar indications of future expectations. These statements reflect our views only as of today. They do not represent our views as of any subsequent date. They are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations.

For a discussion of the material risk and other important factors that could affect our actual results, refer to our 2022 10-K or 10-Q filing for Q1 2023 and other periodic filings with the SEC. These documents are also available on our investors section of our website. Additionally, non-GAAP financial measures will be discussed on this conference call. Refer to the tables in our earnings release and the investors section of our website for a reconciliation of these measures to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures.

With that, I would like to turn the call to our CEO, Matt Calkins. Matt?

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Sri, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. In the first quarter of 2023, Appian's cloud subscriptions revenue grew 31% year over year to $69.7 million. Overall, subscriptions revenue almost broke the 100 million line, but finished at $99.0 million. Total revenue grew 18% year over year to $135.2 million.

Our cloud subscription revenue retention rate was 115% as of March 31. Our adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $15.8 million. Our non-GAAP gross margins set a post-IPO record at 75%. These results exceeded our guidance.

We hosted our Annual Conference Appian World in San Diego last week. I'm pleased with the attendance and the enthusiasm. More than twice as many prospects came to Appian World, this year as last. Our conference theme was process automation.

Customers talked about the benefits of running the whole process life cycle on Appian's platform. On stage, I explained the emerging split between what I call public AI and private AI. Public AI involves sharing data with a cloud AI provider, and that's unacceptable to many of our clients. Companies want to keep control of their data.

They may have legal restrictions as well and they don't want to help train an algorithm that could then be used by their competitors. Private AI, by contrast, means every company cultivates their own AI algorithms, starting with a public model, but training it privately and using it privately. I predict that in the long run, private AI wins, which is to say that it becomes the more popular model for our customers. I think customized AI algorithms will someday be as normal as custom applications inside big firms.

Private AI will feature strong accuracy despite having smaller training data sets because the data is more pertinent and the scope of each AI will be narrower. These AIs won't write limericks or make images, they'll just do the one thing that they were made for. Appian will facilitate both kinds of AI. We prefer the private model.

We announced some new features, which I call low-code AI that make it easy for customers to cultivate their own AI on Appian connected data sets. This public-private split separates Appian from its largest competition. By being a champion of private AI, we appeal to buyers who prefer not to share their data assets. Our ability to assemble large data sets to train private AI algorithms comes from a feature called data fabric.

Data fabric is a fancy term for a virtual database and it means that we can address data from across the enterprise like it was together even though it remains apart. This strategy is preferable for our clients who dislike having to relocate data. Data is the hardest part of building and running processes, so this feature constitutes a substantial advantage. Our data fabric in turn gives us a critical edge at inventing the next generation of process mining.

We call our new vision Process HQ, and we're starting a beta program for it next quarter. It uses Appian's capabilities to overcome the limitations of process mining as it exists today. Process mining projects are notorious for taking a lot of time to gather a data set and not being immediately actionable. In Process HQ, data collectors -- data collection can be quick using Appian's data fabric.

Recommendations for delegating work to new types of workers like AI or RPA can be instantly applied using Appian's full suite of automation tools. Process HQ will quantify the efficiency gains made by Appian-run processes at the same time as helping owners make further improvements. All three of these critical advances are data related. We see lasting advantage over competitors and capability for clients in our data abilities.

For example, a leading European automotive manufacturer uses Appian to better leverage its data and boost productivity. The company currently automates supply chain processes with Appian saving tens of millions of dollars annually. In Q1, it purchased a seven-figure software deal to build more apps and further optimize operations. One app will manage warranty claims.

Appian will integrate the company's systems to run the end-to-end claims assessment and review process. Our platform will feed the customer's data into a machine-learning model to predict which claims need intervention. The customer expects to improve operational efficiency of this process by 20% and save millions of dollars per year. The U.S.

public sector contributed half of our Q1 new logo, ACV, becoming one of our strongest growth areas. We recently announced some new advances for this market. First, Appian cloud is now StateRAMP certified. This is the state-level cybersecurity equivalent of FedRAMP.

It'll enhance our likelihood of winning deals with sensitive workloads. We also launched two new solutions for government customers, contract writing for federal and constituent case management for state and local. Contract writing completes our government acquisition management suite, our GAM suite. So, customers can now run the entire acquisition lifecycle on Appian.

Constituent Case Management is Appian first solution for state and local customers. It's a flexible case management solution that governments can use to serve residents. I'll share this evening two public sector customer stories. First, a large U.S.

state government is under executive mandate to simplify its process for registering new businesses. In Q1, the government purchased a seven-figure Appian software deal and became a new customer. Appian will replace a decades-old business registration and ancillary filings system. Our platform will run the end-to-end process for establishing LLCs and renewing licenses for millions of entrepreneurs and growing businesses.

We won this deal after a proof of concept that integrated the customers' systems and leveraged our native AI and RPA capabilities. A U.S. international affairs agency also became a new Appian customer. Our platform will replace a series of old logistics management applications that are too costly to maintain.

They'll begin with a vehicle fleet management process and plan to follow with others. These apps are core to the organization's mission and represent one of the largest IT spends on logistics management in the federal government. Our partners continued to drive growth this quarter. For example, a partner helped us land a leading financial services and credit card provider as a new logo in Q1.

One of the company's largest business segments manages expenses for corporate clients and must monitor all client interactions in accordance with federal regulations. Appian will create a single tracking application that monitors relationships across the company's various interaction channels, including voice, chat, and email. Before Appian, agents manually audited interactions because their systems were siloed. We won this competitive deal after our partner built a proof of concept in just three days.

Forrester, the analyst firm, is currently completing a commissioned total economic impact study on Appian's customers. I shared the preliminary results last week at Appian World. The study finds that a composite organization comprised of Appian customers experienced a 90% reduction in development time, realized a positive return on investment in just six months, and a full ROI of 257% over three years and accelerated their process execution by a factor of 20 times. Good stuff.

These results explain why Appian prospects and customers purchase our software. Our quick return on investment appeals to the cautious buyer. We doubled our new seven-figure software deals in Q1 compared to the same period last year. This growth was split about evenly between new logos and existing customers.

There's a new logo example. A U.S. federal law enforcement agency purchased a seven-figure software deal to unify its operations. The agency will manage its entire criminal investigation lifecycle on Appian.

Sixteen thousand agents and contractors will open cases and run investigations using a single tool. The customer expects to deploy this mission-critical app in just a few months. A top global bank uses our platform to onboard new clients and manage ongoing relationships. The organization became a new Appian customer in 2019, and we delivered its first project in just eight weeks with the Appian Guarantee at that time.

It's purchased more software every year since. In Q1, it selected our platform to automate credit payment and trade-related processes for more than 1,000 users globally. Finally, a global packaging and logistics company is an existing Appian customer and uses our platform to onboard clients and manage global supply chain logistics. In Q1, it expanded with a seven-figure software purchase to license new users that oversee consumer recycling programs.

They will manage the lifecycle of containers like bottles and milk cartons using Appian. They will also deploy an externally facing Appian portal to engage over 100,000 constituents in the recycling process. Our plan this year is growth with scrutiny. That means we'll examine all of our investments, reducing those we find unproductive and keep growing at the same time.

We are hiring in all offices and all departments. The bar is higher than in other years, but we're still willing to make major new investments when the upside justifies it. Our expanded development of new solutions is a good example. This year's scrutiny drive has helped us become more efficient, which will ease our path to profitability in a way that does not diminish our growth rate.

Now, I'll hand the call to Mark for a deeper look at our financials. Mark?

Mark Matheos -- Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Matt. I'll review the financial highlights for the quarter and then we'll provide guidance for Q2 and the full year 2023. Total revenue, cloud subscription revenue, and adjusted EBITDA were above guidance, while non-GAAP EPS was at the top end of guidance. We saw continued healthy contribution from existing customers and strong growth from key industry verticals, especially the U.S.

public sector. Let's go into the details. Cloud subscription revenue was $69.7 million, an increase of 31% year over year and above guidance. On a constant-currency basis, cloud subscription revenue grew 32% year over year.

Subscriptions revenue was $99 million, an increase of 18% year over year. On a constant-currency basis, subscriptions revenue grew 19% year over year. It was impacted by lower on-prem license revenue as some customers converted to the cloud this quarter and from a higher mix of new cloud bookings during the quarter. Professional services revenue was $36.3 million, an increase of 19% year over year.

This quarter, services revenue benefited from new, large projects with existing customers and recognition of revenue that was on hold from Q4. As previously noted, we have limited visibility in services and a few large projects can influence professional services revenue in any given quarter. Long term, we believe partners will drive the majority of our implementations. Our professional services will continue to be strategic by enabling partners and driving customer success.

However, we expect professional services revenue to continue to decline as a percentage of total revenue. Total revenue was $135.2 million, an increase of 18% year over year and above our guidance. On a constant-currency basis, total revenue grew 19% year over year. Subscriptions revenue was 73% of total revenue consistent with the year-ago period and 74% in the prior quarter.

Our cloud subscription revenue retention rate was 115% as of March 31, 2023, consistent with the prior quarter. As a reminder, we continue to target our cloud subscription revenue retention rate of 110% to 120% on a quarterly basis. Our international operations contributed 33% of total revenue, consistent with a year-ago period. Our cloud software net new ACV bookings were approximately 85% of the total net new software bookings in the first quarter of 2023, an increase from 80% in 2022.

Now, I'll turn to our profitability metrics. Non-GAAP gross margin was a record 75%. It was 74% in the year-ago period and 73% in the prior quarter. Subscriptions non-GAAP gross margin was 90% consistent with a year-ago period and prior quarter.

Professional services non-GAAP gross margin was 34% compared to 29% in the year-ago period and 27% in the prior quarter. Higher-than-expected professional services revenue drove the gross margin upside in the quarter. We expect professional services non-GAAP gross margin to decline to the mid-20 % range in 2023 and low 20% range beyond 2023 as we continue to invest in nonbillable resources to help our customers maximize the value of their Appian investment. Total non-GAAP operating expenses were $119.3 million, an increase of 33% from $89.7 million in the year-ago period.

Adjusted EBITDA loss was $15.8 million versus our guidance of a loss between $21 million and $17 million, compared to an adjusted EBITDA loss of $3.4 million in the year-ago period. In the first quarter, we had approximately $600,000 of foreign exchange gains, compared to foreign exchange losses of 1.9 million in the same period a year ago. We don't forecast movements in FX rates. Therefore, they aren't considered in our guidance.

Non-GAAP net loss was $19.7 million or $0.27 per basic and diluted share, compared to non-GAAP net loss of $4.4 million or $0.06 per basic and diluted share for the first quarter of 2022. This is based on 72.9 million basic and diluted shares outstanding for the first quarter of 2023 and 72.2 million basic and diluted shares outstanding for the first quarter of 2022. Turning to our balance sheet, as of March 31, 2023, cash and cash equivalents and investments were $254.5 million compared with $196 million as of December 31, 2022. In the first quarter, cash used by operations was $25.3 million versus 20.6 million for the same period last year.

Total deferred revenue was $198.7 million as of March 31, 2023, an increase of 34% from the year-ago period. As we have stated on past calls, the majority of our customers are invoiced on an annual upfront basis, but we also have some customers that are billed quarterly or monthly. Due to the variability of our billing terms, changes in our changes in our deferred revenue are generally not indicative of the momentum in our business. We continue to believe cloud subscription revenue is a better indicator of our business momentum than billings or remaining performance obligations.

The latter metrics can fluctuate based on the timing of invoicing, seasonality of on-prem license revenue, and the duration of customer contracts. The true scale of the business is represented by subscriptions revenue, which includes support in all software subscription revenue regardless of whether the customer deploys to the Appian cloud, their private cloud, or on-prem. Now, I'll turn to guidance. For the second quarter of 2023, cloud subscription revenue is expected to be between 72 million and 74 million, representing year-over-year growth of 26% and 30%.

Total revenue is expected to be between 123 million and 125 million, representing year-over-year growth of 12% and 14%. Adjusted EBITDA loss for the second quarter of 2023 is expected to be between 30 million and 26 million. Non-GAAP net loss per share is expected to be between $0.46 and $0.40. This assumes 73 million basic and diluted weighted average common shares outstanding.

For the full year 2023, we are increasing cloud subscription revenue to between 296 million and 298 million, representing year-over-year growth of 25% and 26%. This is an increase from prior guidance of between 294 million and 296 million, representing year-over-year growth of 24% and 25% For the full year 2023, we are increasing total revenue to between 533 million and 538 million, representing year-over-year growth of 14% and 15%. This is an increase from prior guidance of between 530 million and 535 million, representing year-over-year growth of 13% and 14%. Adjusted EBITDA loss is expected to be between 70 million and 65 million, an improvement for prior guidance of between 75 million and 70 million.

Non-GAAP net loss per share is expected to be between $1.16 and $1.09. This assumes 73.2 million basic and diluted weighted average common shares outstanding. Our guidance assumes the following. First, Q2 professional services revenue will be down by a low single-digit rate on a sequential basis.

For the full year 2023, we assume services revenue will grow at a low single-digit rate year over year. Second, on-prem license revenue seasonality will make Q2 our weakest quarter of the year. Hence you should expect on-prem license revenue to decline materially on a sequential basis. Third, Q2 adjusted EBITDA loss excludes severance costs of approximately 1.3 million.

Q2 adjusted EBITDA loss will be higher than Q1 levels due to a combination of on-prem license seasonality and the cost of running our Annual Conference Appian World. We'll continue to maintain greater scrutiny of any discretionary-related expenses. This is consistent with previous years. Fourth, net interest expense of approximately 1.3 million in Q2 and 4.5 million in 2023.

Fifth, capital expenditures will be between 3 million and 4 million in Q2 and between 12 million and 14 million in 2023. This is primarily related to buildout of additional office space. Finally, our guidance assumes FX rates as of May 8, 2023. Before we take your questions, I want to briefly touch on severance costs of 4.2 million related to recent personnel changes.

As part of our growth with scrutiny strategy, we've flattened hierarchies, optimized some support functions, and reduced headcount in nonstrategic areas. Our increased scrutiny should result in continued slowing of opex growth during the remainder of 2023. Accordingly, we now expect non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA loss margin to improve to better than 10% in the second half of 2023. These changes will allow us to invest in areas that will drive growth and generate superior returns long term.

In summary, we're excited about the growth opportunities ahead of us. With that, let's turn it over to questions.

Questions & Answers:

Operator

Thank you. [Operator instructions] Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Steve Enders with Citi. Your line is now open.

Steve Enders -- Citi -- Analyst

OK, great. Thanks for taking the question here. I guess I just want to start and ask about just what you're seeing out there in the deal environment currently and if you're seeing any change as the deal cycles and automation and low-code workflow solutions are becoming a bigger part of the discussion points as maybe the macro begins to fall a little bit more. So, yeah, just great to get more details on what you're seeing out there.

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. OK, great. We are seeing some deal delays in extra scrutiny, but it's not much more than last quarter. So, it's just a gradual progression in that.

And I wouldn't say it was overly disruptive to this quarter. As for whether it shines a brighter spotlight on automation, I believe that in the long run, having to do more with less in a year of not plenty will encourage the kind of creativity that will turn people toward an automation solution and increase the popularity of this industry. I think that's going to take time. So, we're definitely not seeing that yet.

Steve Enders -- Citi -- Analyst

OK, gotcha. That's helpful. And then maybe just on how you ended the call there just on the severance and kind of more scrutiny on the cost structure. I guess, I appreciate the commentary about getting above 10% in the second half of the year on EBITDA.

But I guess maybe I would have expected a little bit more built into the guide there versus kind of what you showed there. So, I guess, is there anything that we should be thinking about for timing or is there -- how do we think about incremental investments that are coming in here as well?

Mark Matheos -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. So, I mean, to be clear, we're still in growth mode, right? And we're still investing overall. I think the point to pay attention to is in certain areas, we will kind of reinvest in backfill. And I think on a net basis, there certainly will be savings.

We've kind of shown that with our $5 million improvement in our full year adjusted EBITDA adjustment there. So I think, we're definitely continuing our growth with scrutiny path forward.

Steve Enders -- Citi -- Analyst

OK, thanks for taking the questions.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sanjit Singh with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Sanjit Singh -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

Yeah, thanks for taking the question. Mark, I had a question for you on the on-premises versus cloud dynamics this quarter. It sounded like in your script there was -- you saw more customer migrations onto cloud. Any color there on what's driving that on-premise customer base moving more to cloud and what was sort of the impact on on-premise revenue because of those migrations?

Mark Matheos -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. So, we saw some renewals that were slated to be on-prem that actually renewed as cloud and there were only a couple, but they were pretty sizable. They weren't small. So, that did move the needle.

In addition, we had as I noted, an 85% cloud rate on our new deals as opposed to the typical 80%. But on the former, on kind of the renewal-based question, we hadn't seen much movement in that, historically, over the past couple or three years. But we did notice that in Q1, just for a couple of those customers, we don't necessarily expect a trend to kind of emerge here, so to speak. On our renewal basis, we do have a good bit -- a good portion of them already on the cloud and it's been pretty stable in recent history.

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

That's right, we think it's not [Inaudible] function.

Sanjit Singh -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

All right. So, just to follow up there, I guess two questions. For the customers that do migrate over, is the team's view that those customers that move from on-premise to cloud, do you think they have the potential to be higher expanding customers going forward? And the second question, Matt, is for you just coming off of Appian World. What sort of your assessment of kind of the non-public sector pipeline going into the rest of the year when you look at your health and life sciences customers or financial services customers? How is that shaking up post-Appian World?

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

OK, great. First of all, with regards to whether there's an additional expansion possibility on cloud customers versus on-premise, in my opinion, the experience of being an Appian cloud customer is slightly superior to the experience of being an Appian on-premise customer. And therefore, I would expect those customers to be maybe a little bit faster to expand, but just a little, right? The experience is very close tonight. I don't want to overplay that.

I'll just take it with a slight positive effect. And then secondly, with regards to the nonpublic sector pipeline, it is strong relative to last year. And, yeah, I don't want to break it out by sector. I don't have it broken out by sector, but the overall nonpublic is good.

Sanjit Singh -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

I appreciate that, Matt. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kevin Kumar with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Kevin Kumar -- Goldman Sachs -- Analyst

Taking the question. I had one on the increased sales capacity that's been added over the last couple of quarters. I'm just curious where the incremental capacity is being deployed and are you starting to see that positively impact KPIs such as pipeline conversion rates or maybe new logo growth? Thanks.

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Sorry, we have two voices there at once. OK. Well, I'll answer the question, but we'll just be careful about having one voice at a time. The question -- let me go back to it.

It was about incremental pipeline and sales from the new cohort of executives that we added late last year, I believe. And I would say it's yes to the pipeline and no to the bookings. There's been enough time for that to help us with pipeline and later this year, maybe second half, we'll see that start to contribute to bookings.

Kevin Kumar -- Goldman Sachs -- Analyst

OK, that's helpful. And then maybe just one on the new public sector solutions. It, again, has been really successful and government is a meaningful part of the overall revenue base. So, just curious kind of on the new solutions, what type of government departments will Appian be targeting and maybe how impactful do you think they are in terms of broadening the overall government GAM? Thank you.

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Let me clarify that this new government solution is part of GAM. We have six modules in GAM, and it covers the life cycle of the acquisitions process. So, we're now able to sell all six and execute them sequentially for the same public sector customer, which is to say we're doubling down on a winner.

We're getting good traction with this solution. We have buyers. We feel confident that we can sell those buyers an additional module that's built to be compatible with the modules they already have. So, we're hitting the same need but more with this latest module.

So, that's what we're doing now. We're also, as you noted, branching into state and local with StateRAMP and with partnerships that target the state and local business with GAM-like functionality. So, that's our primary avenue into the government. and as for whether that's a major value add, absolutely.

These acquisitions is a primary process for government buyers. It's done very systematically. It's done in great volume, and we've shown a substantial advantage over our competitors. So, a very good business.

Kevin Kumar -- Goldman Sachs -- Analyst

Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joe Meares with Truist Securities. Your line is now open.

Joe Meares -- Truist Securities -- Analyst

Hi, guys, thanks for taking the questions. Appreciate it. I'm just curious if you can speak to any cross-sell or upsell that has been a result of the new process mining functionality that you guys have. Or any recent wins there with the process mining [Inaudible]?

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Well, process mining has definitely allowed us to upsell. I have not deployed it to gather the first sale because the initial step in process mining is a services-intensive and somewhat slow step. And you can see the way we're working around that in our new process mining vision, which has to do with leveraging Appian's data fabric in order to rapidly collect the data to create an assessment about the efficiency of your process by using our own data gathering capabilities.

We're going to sidestep that flaw in the data mining, sort of process mining industry. So, we're using it as an expansion tool now. But going forward, we plan to use it as an awareness tool, putting a spotlight on Appian's greatest strength. That's our capability of handling data, the data fabric, exploring data from end to end of the enterprise being able to deploy any kind of automation tool in real time to start handling work and comparing it A versus B.

Appian has specific advantages, right? We're planning for certain synergies. We've united factors and now we need to make that pay. And whether that set of factors is end-to-end coverage of process or the total suite of automation technologies or just access to all the data in an enterprise, we need those synergies to pay off. And the Process HQ product is going to showcase those three synergies and spotlight the value of process mining along the way.

I know that was a long answer, maybe more technical than you wanted, but Process HQ is very strategic to us in that it polishes and displays the kind of full suite advantages that Appian has technologically.

Joe Meares -- Truist Securities -- Analyst

Super helpful with the detail. And then just as a follow-up, in our conversations at Appian World, it sounds like a big reason why a lot of customers choose Appian's products is the security that's embedded. And so, I'm just curious if you could kind of explain how having Impact Level 5 sets you guys apart from competitors. Thanks so much.

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

All right. Well, IL5 is going to be necessary to some buyers, so that'll set us apart in a big way. It makes us eligible to bid on specific public sector high-security projects. But IL5 impresses many buyers who do not have that as a formal requirement.

It reassures them as to the security of their information when they work with Appian. We intend to be the high-end leader in this space, and it's calls like IL5 that substantiate our leadership and encourage our customers, be they public sector or not to trust us.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jacob Roberge with William Blair. Your line is now open.

Jacob Roberge -- William Blair and Company -- Analyst

Good results and thanks for taking my questions. Just wanted to touch on generative IA. I think one of the more compelling use cases that I've heard on the generative AI front has been around increases to developer productivity. So, curious how you think that productivity increase flows into the low code and automation space given that's one of the core value props for the tech?

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. It absolutely is an accelerator in low code. We're using it right now. Our copilot feature suggests smart services to enhance and finish the application you're trying to create.

And so, it's already a nice accelerator. We've also shown how some generative AI can literally write the SAIL code that underlies Appian's applications. So, we're approaching it from different directions. Were very excited about the acceleration demonstrated, but we also want to caution people against thinking AI is a magic answer, particularly, for our customers, generally, industry leaders doing distinctive, maybe unique things.

You can't get your answer from AI if they've never seen an application like this before. So, AI is an accelerant, it's not a substitute. It's a partner and not a replacement. When we treat it that way, we get great benefits out of AI, but it's nowhere near able to take away the human in the chair.

Jacob Roberge -- William Blair and Company -- Analyst

Some of the demand you're seeing for some of your newer products like process mining, RPA, and portals, have any of those been more or less prioritized as a result of the macro? And I'm curious if you think that any of those products could see outsized benefits or even headwinds from the adoption of generative AI.

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, that's interesting. Well, you could say that AI is a tool in an automation portfolio and thus a substitute for other tools in an automation portfolio. And perhaps if I were exceptionally much better, it might diminish the demand for RPA or business rules or something else. But right now, I don't see it that way.

I see AI is being good in its lane and other automation tools being good in their lane. And so, I still think there's plenty of demand for, let's say, RPA or these others. So, I don't want to call a distortion on the automation market right now. And as for which of them is popular, I think that with every one of them, the best feature is the synergy is the combination, the availability of all of them to serve the client if and when they need it.

And therefore, it's kind of dodging your question because I don't think that one of them headlines the offering or drives the adoption. It's the convenience and the totality that are the virtue.

Jacob Roberge -- William Blair and Company -- Analyst

Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Derrick Wood with TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Unknown speaker

Oh, great. Thanks guys. It's Andrew on for Derek. Matt, financial services is a pretty big vertical for you.

Just wondering if you saw any impact from the banking crisis on customer decision-making there and how are pipelines for that vertical tracking versus three months ago.

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, that's good. First of all, we didn't see any blowback from the banking industry episode this quarter. I don't know what it has affected some financial services decision-makers to apply extra scrutiny. That's possible, but that would be a second order consequence.

I can speak to the absence of first order consequences. So, that's my answer.

Unknown speaker

And then last quarter you mentioned Pega competition was a factor in some deals as customers are noticing what's going on there. Did you see that again this quarter? And is that helping drive up win rates this year at all?

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Well, our win rate against Pega is pretty good, but it's actually pretty good against everybody. We tend to do well once we get into the competition, once we're on the shortlist. So, I don't know that it's changed much quarter to quarter.

In fact, I haven't noticed any change serially versus Q1 with regards to any of these competitors, including Pegasystems, remains our most common competition and against whom we have a solid record.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Andrew DeGasperi with Berenberg. Your line is open.

Andrew DeGasperi -- Berenberg Capital Markets -- Analyst

Thanks for taking my question. Relative to your federal customers, which I know have been pretty meaningful in terms of the opportunity for you. With the StateRAMP certification, how big is the market for state customers and then others?

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Well, the challenge with the state side is being able to address them. The reason we haven't touched that market before is because we didn't have the expertise and the connections in state houses. And I felt in the past that that was a good market for a very large firm with a well-developed and extensive sales organization.

We mean now to approach that market by partnering with a firm that does have those connections and by at least expending the resources internally to be sure that our product is well-targeted for those buyer's needs, which are a little bit different from the federal buyer's needs but not so terribly that our successes in federal don't qualify us and put us in a favorable light. We'll have to see how much of this market we can access and how much state and local buyers are willing to spend on this technology. Initial feedback is good. I mentioned one institution, a state and local institution that made a purchase this quarter.

I mentioned another major one last quarter. We're picking up some wins at the state level, but I believe it's early to state how large this could be for us. So, I'll just leave it at that.

Andrew DeGasperi -- Berenberg Capital Markets -- Analyst

Thanks, Matt. And then maybe on the partnership side. You had quite a few partners at Appian World this year, I think over 300. And I noticed many were from international end markets.

I was just wondering, are we still -- is it potential for growth from those ex U.S. to accelerate. Do you see a lot of activity outside the U.S.?

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

OK. First of all, yes, the partners attended Appian World very well. I gave my first speech of the week was to the partner gathering and they were overflowing their room, that people were standing on the sides and at the back. And it was a pretty big room.

So, we're very pleased with the partner participation. I think that's because they see a lot of opportunity there. They're doing this because the demand is real and they're making good money on Appian and the demand is resilient as well. And so, as to whether it's international, I would say it may be slightly more international than it was before, but it hasn't been a big shift.

It's probably just that we're getting more attention in India than we did before, though it was already pretty good, but maybe it's even more over the past year. But I don't think there's been a substantial shift internationally in our partner base.

Andrew DeGasperi -- Berenberg Capital Markets -- Analyst

Great, thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Vinod Srinivasaraghavan with Barclays. Your line is now open.

Vinod Srinivasaraghavan -- Barclays -- Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to ask about Appian Protect. You released that about two months ago. Can you just talk about kind of how this product is positioned in the market and your overall vision for it?

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. This goes back to a theme that we mentioned on one of the earlier questions about how essential it is to be perceived as the high-end offering, the safe offering. And we do a lot to emphasize this. Protect as part of that play.

But it's only the beginning of it. We put a lot of work into establishing our credibility as the most reliable vendor because we understand that for mission-critical processes, the buyer is betting their career to some degree on the solidity and security and scalability, safety of our platform, and for that matter of the expertise that comes with it and the success of the deployment. We believe that in a market where purchases bear substantial risk, one of the primary ways that a best-of-breed player differentiates itself from its competition is by providing safety. You'll see the same theme come up repeatedly in our solution as a solution is about safety.

It's about knowing what you're going to get before you have to pay for it, talking to people who've used it the same thing in the past, knowing that it's worked at a company you respect. So, what is it? It's safety, right? The answer to your question, we're selling safety, we're selling reliability, and a lack of risk. And this is just one way we substantiate it. And of course, I love the idea that we put a brand right on top of our safety attribute.

We'll do that as much as we can. But this is a market where people do important things and they ask a lot of processes. It's not just that the process has to be easy to create, it has to be rock solid after they build it. And we understand that to be one of our primary advantages in the market, that we may not be the biggest vendor in this market.

But we mean to be the best.

Vinod Srinivasaraghavan -- Barclays -- Analyst

That makes sense. And just one more for me. I think at your Investor Day, you mentioned you were transitioning a lot of your customers over to your microservices-based cloud. Can you just give us a sense of how much of that impact on gross margin throughout the year as you transition more customers? And once again, do you expect that to be completed? Thank you.

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. OK, well, so our Kubernetes initiative is a multiyear large project which will provide us the microservices you're talking about. And it's not going to affect our margin this year, not materially. It is a long evolutionary thing.

We're covering enough modules to handle some customers not to handle others. But I make no financial projections around this, none. We've just got to see the technology play out and move carefully and understand that this is the toll for getting to the future. So, we're just going to pay the toll.

This is how we want to organize software going forward and we're committed to being in the lead. So, we thought about it carefully and this is the way we want to structure our software, but it's -- I want to dial down the expectations that it's a financial play or will lead to something tangible.

Vinod Srinivasaraghavan -- Barclays -- Analyst

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Fred Havemeyer with Macquarie Capital. Your line is now open.

Fred Havemeyer -- Macquarie Group -- Analyst

Hey, thank you very much. Matt, I was interested to hear, I think you had said in your prepared remarks that seven-figure deals doubled year over year in the quarter. We'd love to get a little more context around that, in addition to what you were describing in terms of specific clients there because it sounds like despite some of the scrutiny and perhaps macro headwinds that are out there that you're seeing this significant growth. So, we'd love to just understand better what's going on there.

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. All right, well, we did get twice as many new crossings of the seven-figure threshold during the first quarter of 2023 as we achieved in the first quarter of 2022. I'm wording that carefully. If you'd like more detail, it is in the packet of reports, which we have distributed.

And you can say, I think it's in the lower right of a quadrant report that shows the increase in customers of certain threshold sizes. So, pleased with that movement for sure. I don't believe that all of those went from 0 to 1 million though, you understand. Some of those probably went from 0.5 million and crossed the million threshold.

So, what we're really doing is tracking how many have gone over the million threshold, but it's great to see them do it no matter where they came from. And so, it is a sign of confidence. It's just a question of whether it's a confidence in our product or in our marketing. It depends on whether they come from nothing or come from something.

Either way, we're very pleased to see that it's still possible to sign big deals in 2023 that the macro environment has not turned off our clients from wanting to take Appian up a notch. That's what I read in it, and I'm grateful for their confidence.

Fred Havemeyer -- Macquarie Group -- Analyst

And that is definitely encouraging. And I wanted to ask with respect to the growth with scrutiny strategy, understand what you're saying and that you'll have a higher bar for any new investments that you're making. But could you just describe perhaps where you're continuing to hire and how you're thinking about that hiring strategy under this present growth of scrutiny strategy?

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. The intention here is to keep up a very robust hiring pattern. At the same time as internally, we are finding investments that we do not wish to continue, right? I don't want to have a cautious year in which we simply slow things down. I believe that would be counterproductive.

Our intention here is to remain dynamic while also dynamically detecting inefficiency. So, that's the act of strenuous counter position that I am attempting to have us execute in '23. So, it's exciting growth at the same time as meaningful consideration of what investments should continue.

Fred Havemeyer -- Macquarie Group -- Analyst

Thank you for that context.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Fred Lee with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.

Unknown speaker

Hi, this is Tim Yashwanth on for Fred. Thank you for taking my questions. First, given the mix shift to the cloud in the quarter, it is somewhat hard to tease apart how much of the cloud outperformance is coming from a higher-than-expected shift to cloud versus an acceleration in the underlying business dynamics. Could you provide any metrics that would help us better understand the underlying business growth trends you saw in the quarter?

Mark Matheos -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. So, it's actually almost zero is related to that shift. If you're looking at our relative strength in the cloud growth, that's all kind of organic cloud growth without any reference to the shift. And that's because our bookings kind of end up landing toward the end of the quarter, and so we wouldn't have recognized much cloud revenue from those conversions anyway.

Unknown speaker

That's super helpful. Thank you. And then I wanted to circle back on the thinking behind the transition to microservices architecture. And maybe at a high level, are you containerizing your current platform and functionality in order to take advantage of the scalability offered by microservices? Or are you more thinking about writing a new set of features enabled by microservices that are not currently enabled by your platform?

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

No, it's throughout, which means it's the former. We're containerizing the existing functionality and setting a pattern so that we can continue with all further functionality.

Unknown speaker

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you and I'm currently showing no further questions at this time. [Operator signoff]

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Call participants:

Sri Anantha -- Director, Investor Relations

Matt Calkins -- Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Mark Matheos -- Chief Financial Officer

Steve Enders -- Citi -- Analyst

Sanjit Singh -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

Kevin Kumar -- Goldman Sachs -- Analyst

Joe Meares -- Truist Securities -- Analyst

Jacob Roberge -- William Blair and Company -- Analyst

Unknown speaker

Andrew DeGasperi -- Berenberg Capital Markets -- Analyst

Vinod Srinivasaraghavan -- Barclays -- Analyst

Fred Havemeyer -- Macquarie Group -- Analyst

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