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DATE

  • Thursday, July 24, 2025, at 11 a.m. EDT

CALL PARTICIPANTS

  • President and Chief Executive Officer — Priscilla Sims Brown
  • Chief Financial Officer — Jason Darby
  • Chief Banking Officer — Sam Brown

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RISKS

  • Nonperforming assets increased: Nonperforming assets rose to $35.2 million in Q2 2025, or 0.41% of total assets at Q2 2025, with a $2.4 million increase in residential nonaccrual loans cited as the primary driver.
  • Exposure to consumer solar loan portfolio stress: Management noted "we expect our consumer solar portfolio to continue to experience stress as we explore strategic portfolio options," with 7.26% reserve coverage at period-end.
  • Criticized and classified loans up: Criticized and classified loans increased by $13.9 million to $97.8 million, driven by downgrades across four C&I loans, one multifamily loan, and others.
  • Syndicated C&I credit under review: Jason Darby stated, "the situation with this loan is fluid and could result in further reserves as the workout progresses," referring to a commercial and industrial business loan to a consumer solar originator.

TAKEAWAYS

  • Shareholder Recognition: Amalgamated Financial (AMAL -1.48%) was ranked No. 38 out of 338 banks by American Banker for performance in the $2–$10 billion asset range, based on the last three years of performance results; labeled "number one most improved bank" among those already in top 100.
  • Net Income: $26 million, or $0.84 per diluted share (GAAP), and core net income of $27 million, or $0.88 per share as a non-GAAP measure.
  • Net Interest Income: Net interest income was $72.9 million, up 3.3% from the linked quarter and in the middle of the Q1 guidance range.
  • Net Interest Margin: Held steady at 3.55% with a three basis point increase in cost of deposits to 1.62% due to interest-bearing deposit growth.
  • On-Balance Sheet Deposits: Increased $321 million, or 4.3%, to $7.7 billion, including $112.3 million temporary pension funding; excluding temporary balances, deposits grew by $208.9 million, or 2.8%, to $7.6 billion.
  • Political Deposits: Rose $137 million, or 13%, to $1.2 billion, and grew an additional $30 million in political deposit inflows through July 17, 2025.
  • Not-for-Profit Deposits: Increased by over $100 million as new market share was gained.
  • Loan Growth: Net loans receivable by June 30, 2025, increased by $35.5 million, or 0.8%, compared to the linked quarter, with multifamily, CRE, and C&I loans growing $60.8 million, or 2.1% from the linked quarter, offset by declines of $11 million in consumer loans and $11.8 million decrease in residential loans. (Segment loan increases do not sum to total, due to offsetting declines in other categories.)
  • Loan Portfolio Composition: Net loans receivable were $4.7 billion as of June 30, with PACE (Property Assessed Clean Energy) loans at $1.2 billion. The PACE portfolio grew at over a 22% compound annual growth rate from the end of 2021 to the end of Q2 2025.
  • Tangible Book Value per Share: Increased $0.82, or 3.5%, to $24.33; Tangible book value per share grew 18% over the four quarters ended June 30, 2025.
  • Core Return on Average Equity: Core return on average equity was 14.61%, down from 15.23% in the prior quarter; core return on average assets at 1.28% due to a larger balance sheet.
  • CET1 Ratio: 14.13%, down 15 basis points, but remains at a high industry level.
  • Share Repurchase: 327,000 shares bought back for $9.7 million, the largest in company history, with $30 million of authorized repurchases remaining.
  • Dividend: Board authorized a $0.14 per common share dividend to be paid in August 2025; targeted combined payout ratio of at least 20%-25% including buybacks and dividends.
  • Allowance for Credit Losses: The allowance for credit losses on loans increased by $1.3 million to $59 million at the end of the first quarter. Coverage was 1.25% of loans at the end of the first quarter, due to a $2.3 million reserve for a C&I borrower in consumer solar originations.
  • Noninterest Income: Core noninterest income was $9.3 million, primarily driven by higher commercial banking fees, partially offset by lower trust income.
  • Core Noninterest Expense: Core noninterest expense was $40.4 million in the second quarter, down $1.1 million from the linked quarter, with professional fees declining by $1.5 million, while advertising expense rose by $400,000.
  • Efficiency Ratio: Core efficiency improved to 49%, but is projected to rise in Q3 2025 due to staff additions and the digital transformation platform launch; The annual OpEx target remains at approximately $170 million for the year.
  • Growth Initiatives: Added key hires in Western regional banking, CRE, and climate lending; new data-first integrated digital platform set to go live in Q3.
  • 2025 Guidance Reaffirmed: Full-year 2025 core (non-GAAP) pretax, pre-provision earnings projected at $159 million–$163 million; net interest income targeted at $293 million–$297 million for the full year 2025.
  • Third Quarter Outlook: Projected balance sheet growth to approximately $8.6 billion; net interest income guidance at $74 million–$76 million, with net interest margin expected to stay near flat due to continued DDA to IBA mix shift.

SUMMARY

Amalgamated Financial management signaled confidence in meeting full-year 2025 targets, reaffirming guidance for both pretax, pre-provision earnings and net interest income despite pressures in select portfolio segments. Strategic expansion efforts are focused on California, highlighted by new senior banking hires and targeted growth in multifamily, CRE, and C&I portfolios. The integrated digital monetization platform is on track for launch next quarter, with an expected near-term rise in expenses but targeted longer-term improvements in efficiency and revenue per share. Shareholder capital return increased through record repurchase activity, while dividend policy remains intentionally paced relative to overall company growth.

  • Political deposits and not-for-profit client balances drove significant deposit inflows, positioning the company to fund new loan originations and support balance sheet growth strategies.
  • Higher provisioning and criticized asset trends were attributed to isolated events and portfolio run-off in specific segments, with management emphasizing robust allowance coverage and active remediation efforts.
  • Amalgamated's recognition by American Banker as the "number one most improved" among top 100 institutions underscores its three-year performance trajectory and market positioning in the sector.
  • The board maintains flexibility to adjust buyback and dividend activity in response to share price or market conditions, stating it will "stand ready to be opportunistic at any time."

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

  • PACE: Property Assessed Clean Energy, a financing structure allowing property owners to fund energy efficiency or renewable energy projects through tax assessments.
  • Core Efficiency Ratio: A non-GAAP measure reflecting operating efficiency by dividing core noninterest expense by core net revenue, excluding certain one-time or nonrecurring items.
  • DDA: Demand Deposit Account, a non-interest bearing deposit account primarily used for business or consumer transaction purposes.
  • IBA: Interest-Bearing Account, a deposit account that pays interest on balances, often used in reference to political or other large customer funds.
  • CET1 Ratio: Common Equity Tier 1 Capital Ratio, a key regulatory capital measure for banks, representing core equity capital as a percentage of risk-weighted assets.
  • CRE: Commercial Real Estate, referring to bank lending collateralized by income-producing properties, typically non-residential.
  • CECL Model: Current Expected Credit Losses, the accounting methodology banks use to estimate future credit losses over the life of a loan.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Jason Darby: Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate your participation in our earnings call. With me today is Priscilla Sims Brown, our President and Chief Executive Officer. Additionally, Sam Brown, our Chief Banking Officer, is also here for the Q&A portion of today's call. As a reminder, a telephonic replay of this call will be available in the Investors section of our website for an extended period of time. Additionally, a slide deck to complement today's discussion is also available in the Investors section of our website. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that this call may contain certain statements that are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

We caution investors that actual results may differ from the expectations indicated or implied by any such forward-looking information or statements. Investors should refer to Slide 2 of our earnings slide deck as well as our 2024 10-Ks filed on 03/06/2025, for a list of risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated or implied by such statements. We will also discuss certain non-GAAP measures during today's call, which we believe are useful in evaluating our performance. Presentation of this additional information should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with US GAAP.

A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measure can be found in our earnings release as well as on our website. Let me now turn the call over to Priscilla.

Priscilla Sims Brown: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'd like to start by talking about how Amalgamated continues to perform well regardless of the prevailing federal narrative and related headwinds. We again delivered solid results this quarter that continue to show the power and sustainability of our earnings and profitability highlighted by core earnings per share of 88¢. Reaching this EPS mark is something we're proud of, not simply because we hit our target, but rather because we now compete amongst some of the best-run banks in the country in terms of performance and results. And we are achieving our results because our banking model is flexible.

We have many levers we can pull to drive performance, and that creates reliability and predictability for our shareholders, our customers, and our employees. Our Q2 results featured a balanced scorecard for both strong deposit gathering and solid loan origination from our commercial growth portfolios. This type of balance makes us optimistic for a great second half of 2025, and let me share some more details with you. Starting with deposits, we recognized $209 million of on-balance sheet deposit growth through the second quarter, which does not include $112 million of temporary ordinary pension funding deposits which were received on the last day of the quarter but withdrawn the following day.

As a reminder from our Q1 call, we moved a majority of our Q1 off-balance sheet deposits on-balance sheet to fund loan originations and security purchases as we focus on driving net interest income growth. Our political deposits were a bright spot yet again, increasing $137 million or 13% to $1.2 billion in the quarter as fundraising begins to accelerate looking to the midterm which are just fifteen months away. Through 07/17/2025, we have had a further $30 million of political deposit inflows. Our not-for-profit segment also grew deposits by more than $100 million as our mission-oriented bankers brought new customer relationships to the bank and took market share.

Turning to assets, loan growth was balanced at over $60 million across our growth mode portfolios. Those are the multifamily, CRE, and C&I, and that drove about 2% loan growth. I was pleased to see these results, knowing that we also encountered a higher level of early payoff and paydowns on loans. We do expect this rate of payoff activity to begin to slow in the third quarter. All in, despite the solid numbers, we were still modestly behind our 1.5% to 2% target across the entire loan portfolio due to declines in our consumer solar and residential real estate loan portfolios which we have been deemphasizing and will continue to run off over time.

Going forward, I think we have built the team we need to achieve our loan growth targets, and I'm excited to share more about that with you now. Since joining Amalgamated more than four years ago, I have been focused on expanding our lending platform through recruiting performance-oriented bankers. This expansion has led to improved loan growth; we have increased our loan portfolio at a 10% compound annual growth rate from $3.1 billion at the end of 2021 to now $4.7 billion at the end of the 2025 second quarter. Additionally, our PACE portfolio has grown at over 22% compound annual growth rate to $1.2 billion over that same period.

While I'm very pleased with our success growing our team and our portfolio, I see an opportunity to further expand our lending platform as well as our presence in large and growing markets. For example, California is a market where we currently have a presence in San Francisco, but we see the whole state as a large growth opportunity for both loans and deposits. To accomplish this, Sam Brown and John Salkos, our director of commercial banking, have been recruiting experienced bankers and they have made great strides during the second quarter. And so I'd like to make a few key introductions this morning.

Leading off, Brian Choi has joined the bank as our Western Regional Director, where he will lead our banking efforts in the West. Brian has twenty-five years of banking experience in California where he was most recently the vice president of lending strategy and sales at First Republic Bank. Next, Ken Gaitan has also joined Amalgamated as a senior relationship manager in charge of growing our commercial real estate portfolio in the West as well as leading our strategic efforts to further grow our customer base in California with a focus on the Bay Area. Ken has more than twenty-five years of CRE lending experience on the West Coast and ascending leadership roles at multiple financial services firms.

Additionally, Ken Edens has joined as our director of climate and C&I lending. Ken brings more than two decades of lending experience on the West Coast. Most recently at East West Bank where he led that organization's project finance practice in multiple asset classes including renewable energy. Ken will lead our climate and C&I lending team nationally to help us accelerate our overall C&I lending growth. I emphasize overall C&I lending in reference to my earlier point about our flexible business model. The recently passed budget law will add pressure on areas of the renewable sector that rely on tax credits.

And while we expect a minimal impact on our business, given that tax credits will not be phased out until 2027, and that the projects we have in our pipeline are shovel-ready and will fund prior to that, we nevertheless seek additional C&I channels and healthy risk-adjusted returns that are mission-aligned and Ken is the right person to lead us. Hopefully, you're picking up my themes for growth and optimism. If you recall, we entered this plan year with a bit of negative operating leverage, as we said we needed to make investments for the purpose of growing revenue. And we've been doing just that.

We've mainly spoken about producer investments to open up markets and channels, but now I'd like to talk a bit about our progress on infrastructure investments. Which are critical for scalable growth that prioritizes revenue per share in the future. When I first started, I introduced our four pillars strategic framework to guide our team. As part of our driving effectiveness and efficiency pillar, we have been investing in data-first fully integrated digital monetization which will drive improved productivity, provide a holistic view of our customers to better understand their needs, and provide more customized solutions and ultimately deliver improved revenue growth. This platform will go live in the third quarter.

And it's absolutely essential to remain competitive and to drive loyalty. When the platform comes online, it will drive an uptick in our second half expenses, which we've expected. But as I discussed on our first quarter call, we are carefully managing our investment spend to ensure we maintain core efficiency at an outer band of approximately 52%. This is part of our modernization roadmap as we make the necessary investments to drive organic growth and ready Amalgamated for our eventual move through the $10 billion mark in assets. Closing my remarks, we are seeing a normalization in the political narrative as the rhetoric has started to subside.

While mission-oriented businesses increasingly see Amalgamated as a destination with a strong financial foundation. Our mission alignment is the reason customers choose to do business with the bank, and perseverance continues to build for many of our core customer segments, which bodes positively for the second half of the year. I would also note that we are seeing a strong level of new customer with a healthy pipeline of new potential relationships as we look forward to the back half of the year. This provides confidence in our ability to deliver on our earnings guidance once again this year.

And one last thing, I mentioned that we now compete against the best banks in the country in terms of performance results. Jason will have some interesting stats to share with all of you. So with that, let me turn the call over to Jason.

Jason Darby: Good morning. Thanks, Priscilla. Something a little fun before we dive into the numbers. The American Banker just released their list of the top-performing banks in the $2 billion to $10 billion asset size range. Amalgamated Bank was ranked number 38 out of 338 banks. That's a pretty darn good number in itself. But more importantly, Amalgamated was the number one most improved bank out of those already in the top 100 as we moved up nearly 50 spots in one year. And this is the culmination of the last three years of performance results and also validation that we're in the upper echelon of bank performance in the US.

And moving to our results, we again had another solid quarter. Starting off with key highlights on Slide 3, Net income is $26 million or $0.84 per diluted share, and core net income, a non-GAAP measure, was $27 million or 88¢ per diluted share. Our net interest income grew by 3.3% and was right in the middle of Q1 guidance range at $72.9 million as we grew our balance sheet by 2.8% to our target average of $8.45 billion. Please note that our period-end balance sheet includes $112.3 million of temporary deposits that were not part of our managed target and had almost no impact on our average balances. Our net interest margin held steady at 3.55%.

And although we did not meet our target for modest margin expansion this quarter, we're pleased our margin held because a significant majority of our net deposit growth came from interest-bearing deposits which drove a three basis point increase in our cost of deposits. Also, most of our reported loan growth booked towards the end of the quarter, and as a result, we did not receive the NII and yield benefit of those loans. That said, it does set up a solid base for the second half of the year to reach our NII targets. And have decent margin expansion likely in the fourth quarter. Lastly, we hit our leverage target of 9.2% pretty much on the nose.

We are particularly happy with this result as during the quarter, we executed the largest repurchase of shares in the bank's history. I'll have more on this in a little bit. Continuing to slide four, we look at some of our key performance metrics during the second quarter. Starting on the left, our tangible book value per share increased $0.82 or 3.5% to $24.33 and that has grown 18% over the past four quarters. And our core revenue per diluted share was $2.67 for the second quarter, a 10¢ increase from the prior quarter. This increase was due to a combination of higher net interest income and the effect of our share repurchases.

Moving across to our returns, Core return on average equity was 14.61%, a decline from 15.23% in the prior quarter. Which was expected as organic capital built another $18 million through earnings generation. That said, we remain near the top of the pack and are well positioned to continue returning more capital to shareholders. Our core return on average assets declined to 1.28% given our planned larger balance sheet size.

Regarding capital, our CET1 ratio modestly decreased 15 basis points to 14.13%, remains at an industry-leading level, demonstrating the strength of our balance sheet and the conservative risk-based allocation of our capital while still generating high-level earnings. As previously mentioned, tier one leverage maintained at 9.22%. Yet during the second quarter, we also ratably repurchased 327,000 shares or $9.7 million worth of our common stock. This is a big step for Amalgamated and shows our board of directors is committed to returning capital to shareholders. Additionally, our board authorized a 14¢ per common share dividend this week to be paid in August.

Looking forward, we expect the pace of buybacks to moderate in 2025 particularly if our share price rises to a level we feel more adequately reflects our forward earnings projection. But we stand ready to be opportunistic at any time as we still have over $30 million of authorized availability. We will continue to target a quarterly payout ratio of at least 20 to 25%, which includes both share repurchases and dividends. However, similar to Q1 and Q2, we may opportunistically choose to exceed that target. Turning to slide five.

On-balance sheet deposits increased by $321 million or 4.3% to $7.7 billion which includes $112.3 million of temporary pension funding deposits received on the last day of the quarter and withdrawn on the following day. Excluding these deposits, total deposits increased $208.9 million or 2.8% to $7.6 billion. We also held $41.4 million of off-balance sheet deposits at the end of the quarter. Our non-deposits decreased to approximately 38% of average deposits and 36% of ending deposits, resulting in a three basis point rise in our cost of deposits to a still low 162 basis points for the second quarter.

A driver to the decline in our noninterest-bearing deposits is the growth in our political deposits, skewing more towards interest-bearing than DDA. It is not a surprise given that interest rates have remained persistently high. That said, we do not anticipate any significant upward changes in our posted rates going forward, which should drive margin reliability. Turning to slide eight. Net loans receivable at 06/30/2025, are $4.7 billion an increase of $35.5 million or 0.8% compared to the linked quarter.

Our loan growth in the quarter was primarily driven by a $34.2 million increase in multifamily loans, and a $13.5 million increase in commercial and industrial loans, and a $13.1 million increase in commercial real estate loans partially offset by an $11 million decrease in consumer loans and an $11.8 million decrease in residential. It's important to remind that our consumer solar and residential loan portfolios are primarily in run-off mode, and we do not expect to grow those portfolios in the near future. Our growth portfolios, which include C&I, CRE, and multifamily, $60.8 million or 2.1% from the linked quarter, which is healthy growth.

The yield in our total loan portfolio increased five basis points despite a $35.6 million decrease in average loan balances as diversified commercial loan origination was offset by paydowns and payoffs on commercial and industrial loans, lower-yielding residential loans, and consumer solar loans in the quarter. Additionally, our loan growth occurred at quarter-end, which suppressed our average loan balances during the quarter. Turning to slide nine. Core noninterest income was $9.3 million compared to $9.1 million in the linked quarter. This increase was primarily related to higher commercial banking fees, partially offset by lower income from trust fees.

As we've discussed on prior calls, improving the consistency of our trust business performance will take time, and we do not expect meaningful improvement until 2026. Core noninterest expense is $40.4 million in the second quarter, a decrease of $1.1 million from the linked quarter. This is mainly driven by a $1.5 million decrease in professional fees, partially offset by a $400,000 increase in advertising expense. And while our core efficiency ratio declined to 49%, we expect that ratio to rise in the third quarter due to costs related to the added sales staff and expected digital transformation deployment that Priscilla discussed, and we will keep our target of approximately $170 million for annual OpEx.

Moving to Slide 10, nonperforming assets totaled $35.2 million or 0.41% of period-end total assets at 06/30/2025 representing an increase of $1.3 million on a linked quarter basis. The increase is primarily driven by a $2.4 million increase in residential nonaccrual loans, partially offset by a $500,000 decrease in nonaccrual loans held for sale. Net charge-offs in the quarter were 0.3% of total loans and consisted of $2.6 million in charge-offs on our consumer solar loans, and $900,000 in charge-offs for small business C&I loans. Going forward, we expect small business loan charge-offs to ease as we have paused new loan origination. And the outstanding portfolio balance is now $7.4 million of which 82% are pass grade.

However, we expect our consumer solar portfolio to continue to experience stress as we explore strategic portfolio options, We remind investors that Amalgamated is well reserved for this portfolio with 7.26% coverage at period-end. Our criticized and classified loans increased by $13.9 million to $97.8 million largely related to the downgrades of four C&I loans totaling $9.7 million, the downgrade of one multifamily loan totaling $2.8 million, additional downgrades of small business loans totaling $1 million, and an increase of $2.1 million in residential and consumer substandard loans. Turning to slide 11, the allowance for credit losses on loans increased $1.3 million to $59 million.

The ratio of allowance to total loans is 1.25% at the end of the first quarter, an increase of two basis points from 1.23% in the prior quarter. The increase was primarily the result of a $2.3 million increase in reserves from one commercial and industrial loan as well as increases in provision related to the macroeconomic forecast used in the CECL model. The loan associated with the increased reserve is a commercial industrial business loan to an originator of consumer loans for renewable energy efficiency improvements. During the quarter, $2.5 million of debtor in possession or dip financing was put in place a portion of which was advanced that increased our outstanding exposure from $8.3 million to $9.3 million.

Additionally, during the third quarter, the remainder of the debt financing was advanced bringing the total exposure to $10.8 million as of the date of this call. And while there remains collateral value, the situation with this loan is fluid and could result in further reserves as the workout progresses. We believe this to be an isolated situation, not reflective of our broad and diverse renewable energy commercial portfolio, something we think is well reflected in our allowance coverage ratio. Finishing on slide 12.

We are maintaining our full-year 2025 guidance of core pretax, pre-provision earnings, of $159 million to $163 million and net interest income of $293 million to $297 million which considers the effect of the forward rate curve of 2025. Additionally, we estimate an approximate $1.9 million in annual net interest income for a parallel 25 basis point decrease in interest rates beyond what the forward curve currently suggests. Briefly looking at the third quarter of 2025, we target modest balance sheet growth to approximately $8.6 billion dependent on projected deposit balances.

As a result, we expect our net interest income to range between $74 million and $76 million in the third quarter, and we expect our net interest margin to stay near flat relative to our Q2 mark as we believe our DDA to IBA ratio may continue to decline from Q2 given the current interest rate environment and Fed stance. Wrapping up, we're delighted to deliver another solid quarter of results for our shareholders and driving towards being in the top 20 in next year's American Banker rankings. And now, operator, please open up the line for any questions.

Operator: Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press 1 on your telephone keypad.

Mark Fitzgibbon: Our first question is from Mark Fitzgibbon with Piper Sandler. Hey, guys. Good morning and good luck with the American Banker poll next year.

Priscilla Sims Brown: Good morning, Mark.

Jason Darby: Good morning.

Mark Fitzgibbon: Priscilla, first question I had, I heard your comments around the expansion in California. And I guess I was curious, is it likely that expansion will be all organic or do you envision some M&A potentially playing a role in that or maybe some combination of the two?

Priscilla Sims Brown: Well, we're not making an M&A announcement on this call, Mark. I would say that we see significant opportunity organically. In fact, in California, a good portion of our business today on the books, excuse me, is in the LA area. So adding one banker there and the ability to expand there seems logical. We also have currently in our San Francisco office, bankers who do work in the East Bay and we're looking at organic expansion into the East Bay in a bigger way. So those are some of the activities we have underway. Anything else will evolve over time as appropriate.

Mark Fitzgibbon: Okay. And then secondly, Jason, I heard your comments on that syndicated C&I credit. I guess I was curious what industry it's in, maybe some sense of how long you think the resolution might take and any other, you know, color you could share with us would be helpful.

Jason Darby: Yeah. Absolutely. And again, it's part of our commercial solar portfolio, but it is to an originator of consumer solar renewable fixtures, if you will. And the distribution of those loans is broadly throughout the United States. So there's quite a bit of collateral value that's out there relative to this provider of credit. The industry in general from a consumer point of view has had some stress. You've seen that flow through in our numbers, and this originator is obviously having an impact as a result of that. Now from the standpoint of a resolution, it's difficult to say right now.

I think we took a haircut on our collateral value assessment at the end of the second quarter based on some new events that have come up. What I can share is the lending group is actively working on sourcing credit bids to facilitate an orderly transition and keep all the remaining servicing intact. There have been some developments that have called into question the bid process and what some of the excess cash would end up being, which is why we drove that reserve.

But where we are right now is trying to figure out a way where all parties can recognize that the interest or the best interest of everybody is to have the originator remain intact and have the servicing continue. And so those are ongoing active negotiations that are happening as we speak, literally. And probably we'll have more information over the coming weeks. But with regard to the probability of outcome, it's a little too early to say other than we'll come back and remind that there is good collateral there. And that the bid process, we think, is going to be the most likely outcome once it gets back on track from a negotiation perspective.

Mark Fitzgibbon: Okay. Great. And then somewhat related, I guess, is it fair to expect that provisioning may run at a slightly higher level than what we've seen recently? Given some of the pressures and things like multifamily or the green energy space? Do you feel like you know, it's it's gonna be necessary to run at a little bit higher level?

Jason Darby: We really take that quarter by quarter and almost loan by loan from an assessment of provisioning. And I think the reflection of our provision decisions this quarter is pretty indicative of how we feel about the overall portfolios right now. I think in our multifamily and our CRE portfolios, we've been through a large portion of the maturities that would have driven us to have to really raise provision rates at this time. And we feel good about how we preserve for that at the moment. On the C&I side, we actually had pulled out the specific reserve a bit of a decline in coverage ratio went from about 129 to 123.

On the overall C&I portfolio, which includes the renewables. And that's just our best show for you as our view of the credit quality of the portfolio. And looking forward, there's some new things that are coming up. Obviously, there's some potential pressure from the mayoral change in the New York City market. And there's some other things that we're keeping our eye on relative to the budget bill and how that might affect our pipeline and portfolio going forward. But we'll always be very transparent, Mark, that the coverage ratios in quarter will be the best indicator of where we see things trending.

And what I can say right now is we feel very comfortable with the portfolio as it is. There's always a possibility it could increase in the future, but right now, we feel pretty good about how we've reserved for the portfolio as of the quarter.

Mark Fitzgibbon: Thank you.

Jason Darby: You're welcome.

Operator: Our next question is from David Conrad with KBW.

David Conrad: Yeah. Good morning, everyone. Had a couple questions. One on NIM and the NIM outlook. I mean your deposit base is so strong and tough to get a lot of leverage now there. But in terms of the loan yields and stronger EOP balance, just trying to figure out what the loan yields coming on are towards the end of the quarter and kind of build that into our outlook.

Jason Darby: Yep. Certainly. I'll take that, and maybe Stan can pop in on the Outlook for productivity. But on the bring-ons, we were really in the high five to 6% range on the CRE and multifamily. We came in about six, 70% on C&I. And our PACE portfolio was about 7%. So decent bring-ons, I think, the upcoming quarter on the multifamily CRA maybe. 30 basis points higher, bring-on opportunity. And maybe 15 basis points or so higher on the C&I's. I think pace would be relatively similar, around 7%. Although opportunistically, it could get a little bit higher depending on certain types of deals. So I think on the asset side, there's good opportunity for lift.

When we gave our guidance for the margin for Q3, and we're saying it's remaining flat, I think there's a couple of things that's driving that. The first is that there's a bit of an outsize in our securities portfolio and we try to maintain structural credit integrity. So we're not going high, high up on the yield there. So as we have a little bit more of that volume, coming through, and going for reset, we're gonna end up dragging some of the gain we'll have in the loan yield in the third quarter. So we think that's just going have a neutralizing effect for the most part on the asset yields.

And to your point, we think the cost of funds is going be pretty stable, and we're not really modeling a tremendous amount of benefit from any type of rate reduction on cost of funds going forward because we just are assuming a higher I'm sorry, a lower beta on that. Now going forward to Q4, though, that's where we think there's going to be an opportunity for margin expansion because we'll eventually see a flip into probably more DDA from IBA as the political deposits continue to ramp up. And so when we get towards the end of the third quarter and into the fourth, we hope that there'll be a little bit of a shift there.

That'll put a little bit of reduction of pressure on the cost of funds side. And then as we continue to trade out of the securities portfolio to fund new loan originations, that's where we think we're going to get that asset yield pick up because the loan yields will sort of run the table, and the securities won't drag as much.

David Conrad: Got it. Thank you. And then maybe a little bit color of the run rate for next quarter expenses. It sounds like you're going to tick up a little bit based on what you said in the full-year guide.

Jason Darby: Yeah. The expenses, I do think we're going to pick up to the extent that it's 3 and a half million or so more than the 40.4 we came in. I don't exactly know. I'm really happy with the levers that we were able to pull and the discipline that we showed in this quarter to be able to create some room in our expense profile for the back half of the year. Do know we're gonna have added compensation expenses Priscilla mentioned before all the new producer bankers that we've hired. Obviously, there'll be a call to that, but we're excited about the revenue capabilities that they'll bring into the following year.

Then this digital transformation process that we've been undergoing for the better part of a year, and there's a decent amount of accumulated balance expenses that are going to start to roll through. That's gonna also have a revenue benefit. But what we're seeing right now is keeping the $170 million target for the end of the year I think we'll be starting to look ratably between the two quarters if we're going to hit that $1.70. But, David, I think the other thing is if there's room for us to surprise on the pretax pre-provision guidance we're given, it will be on a betterment of expenses through the back half of the year.

David Conrad: Got it. And then last one for me, just on the capital. Appreciate your comments about being opportunistic on the buybacks. So just maybe a little bit thought on the dividend and maybe you know, the longer term you know, thoughts on a, a dividend payout ratio.

Jason Darby: So I always try to be wrapped in my comments about the overall payout rate between the buyback and the dividend. And we've targeted 20% to 25%. But the other thing that I target is generally a two to two and a half percent yield. And the reason why I think of it that way is because we still view Amalgamated very much as a growth stock. And so we don't wanna be over-indexed on the yield. But what I do point to is we've been moving up the dividend scale more frequently than we have in the past. If we went back to when we IPOed, we were really every two years doing roughly a 2¢ dividend increase.

Last year, we moved to one year on a $0.02 dividend increase. And I would think we'll continue pace in that way and potentially be able to increase the penny or so that we've talked about maybe more than 2¢ going forward, but I don't have an exact target for you yet. Other than that we're very conscious of the actual dividend yield and needing to be a little bit higher up on the scale there.

David Conrad: Great. Perfect. Thank you.

Jason Darby: You're welcome. Thank you.

Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to hand the floor back over to Priscilla Sims Brown for any closing comments.

Priscilla Sims Brown: Great. Thank you for those questions and your engagement. Thank you all for your time. We appreciate all of those questions, and we look forward to the opportunity to discuss these more with you, in the one-on-ones. I also would like to thank our employees as always for their hard work and dedication to the bank and our customers. Our success would not be possible without the commitment and determination of our talented team. We look forward to updating you on our progress on our third-quarter call. Thank you again for your time today.

Operator: This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.