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DATE
Thursday, August 7, 2025 at 4 p.m. ET
CALL PARTICIPANTS
Chief Executive Officer — Phil Tseng
President — Jason Mehring
Chief Financial Officer — Erik Cuellar
Co-Chief Investment Officer — Dan Morell
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RISKS
Net asset value declined in Q2 2025, primarily due to markdowns on previously restructured portfolio companies rather than new credit issues.
Net realized losses totaled approximately $66 million for Q2 2025, or $0.78 per share, mainly as a result of restructurings in SellerX, Chorus, InMoment, and Renovo.
Net regulatory leverage rose to 1.28 times as of Q2 2025, exceeding the targeted range of 0.9 times to 1.2 times, due to new investments late in the quarter, delayed repayments, and a decline in NAV.
Four new investments, including Thrasio, Fishbowl, Brook and Whittle, and 4840, were added to nonaccrual status in Q2 2025 due to uneven performance, liquidity constraints, or lower demand.
TAKEAWAYS
Nonaccruals-- Nonaccruals fell to 3.7% of portfolio fair value in Q2 2025, down from 4.4% last quarter and 5.6% at year end 2024.
Senior Secured Focus-- 89% of the $1.8 billion portfolio was invested in senior secured debt as of Q2 2025, all in floating-rate instruments.
Portfolio Diversification-- The portfolio included 153 companies across more than 20 industry sectors, with the average investment size at $11.7 million, or 65 basis points of the total portfolio.
Investment Yields-- The weighted average annual effective yield was 12% in Q2 2025, compared to 12.2% in the prior quarter; new investments yielded 10.8% in Q2 2025, while exited investments carried an average yield of 10.5%.
Adjusted Net Investment Income-- Adjusted net investment income was $0.31 per share in Q2 2025, down from $0.36 per share in Q1 2025; Gross investment income was $0.61 per share, down from $0.66 in Q1 2025.
Dividend Declarations-- A regular dividend of $0.25 and a special dividend of $0.04 per share were declared for Q2 2025, both payable September 30 to shareholders of record on September 16.
Share Repurchases-- 40,830 shares were repurchased during Q2 2025.
PIK Interest Income-- PIK interest income comprised 11.4% of total investment income in Q2 2025, down from 11.6% last quarter.
Operating Expenses-- Operating expenses were $0.28 per share for Q2 2025, including $0.02 per share of interest and other debt expenses.
Leverage and Liquidity-- Total liquidity at Q2 2025 period end was $566 million, with available leverage of $155 million and cash of $107 million; net regulatory leverage was 1.28 times at Q2 2025 quarter-end.
Unfunded Loan Commitments-- Unfunded loan commitments totaled 8.6% of the portfolio, or $154 million as of Q2 2025, including $64 million in revolver commitments.
Funding Costs-- The weighted average interest rate on outstanding debt was 5.2% as of Q2 2025, unchanged from the prior quarter.
Post-Quarter Actions-- The company repaid $92 million of 2025 notes subsequent to Q2 2025 and extended the maturity of a $200 million credit facility in July.
HPS Acquisition and PFS Platform-- BlackRock’s acquisition of HPS led to the formation of the Private Financing Solutions (PFS) platform, centralizing private investment sourcing and origination, with TCPC leveraging new deal flow and expertise.
SUMMARY
BlackRock TCP Capital Corp. (TCPC -3.19%) reduced nonaccruals to 3.7% of the portfolio's fair market value in Q2 2025, down from 4.4% in Q1 2025 and 5.6% at the end of 2024 while managing continued markdowns in selected restructured assets, resulting in a net asset value decrease for the quarter. Investment activity remained substantial, supported by a senior secured loan focus and broad sector diversification, while portfolio yields moderated modestly. Changes in leverage and liquidity reflected investment timing and asset value shifts, with management addressing upcoming maturities and securing new financing flexibility post-quarter. Strategic integration into BlackRock's PFS platform is expected to offer enhanced sourcing, allocation, and risk management capabilities, directly exposed to senior restructuring and portfolio expertise from HPS professionals.
President Mehring said, repeat borrowers remain an important source of originations, and existing portfolio companies have accounted for 51% of our investment dollars year to date
CEO Tseng said, "Our entire team is very excited to join forces with HPS." highlighting anticipated private credit deal opportunities from the PFS platform.
Management expects net regulatory leverage to return to approximately Q1 2025 levels in the next quarter, following investment deployments and delayed repayments.
The company marked up Domo following a strong earnings report and cited it as the largest gain this quarter, while markdowns such as in AutoAlert were attributed to sector valuation compression despite operating improvement.
Post-acquisition, three senior credit investors from HPS have joined the investment committee, expanding restructuring bench strength and portfolio management capabilities within TCPC.
INDUSTRY GLOSSARY
Nonaccrual: A loan or debt instrument that has stopped accruing interest because the borrower is not making scheduled payments, typically indicative of distress.
PIK (Payment-In-Kind) Interest: Interest payment made in forms other than cash, such as additional securities or equity, often used by distressed borrowers to conserve liquidity.
First Lien Loan: A loan secured by the highest-priority claim on the collateral of a borrower, ahead of other debt holders in the event of default.
PFS (Private Financing Solutions): BlackRock’s integrated platform combining private credit, GP/LP solutions, and CLO businesses created after acquiring HPS, aimed at enhancing sourcing, origination, and risk management for private market transactions.
Full Conference Call Transcript
Phil Tseng: Thank you, Alex. And thanks to all of our investors and analysts for joining us today. I'll begin today's call with a high-level overview of our performance for the second quarter. Our President, Jason Mehring, will then provide details on our portfolio and investment activity, and Erik Cuellar, our CFO, will review our financial results. Following Erik's remarks and before we open the call up to questions, I'll provide an update on BlackRock's recent acquisition of HPS and the strategic benefits it brings to TCPC. We're also joined today by Dan Morell, our Co-CIO, who will be available to answer questions. Now I'll begin with an overview of our second quarter performance.
We made meaningful progress in reducing nonaccruals, which declined to 3.7% of the portfolio's fair market value, down from 4.4% last quarter and 5.6% at the end of 2024. That said, NAV declined during the quarter primarily due to markdowns on previously restructured portfolio companies rather than any new credit issues. Turning to more detail on nonaccruals, we removed four large investments from nonaccrual status this quarter, including InMoment, SellerX, Lithium, and Renovo. We are pleased with this steady improvement; however, progress is not linear, and situations can remain dynamic as the companies implement their turnaround plans. We also added four investments to nonaccrual. These additions, Thrasio, Fishbowl, Brook and Whittle, and $48.40, fall into two main categories.
In the first category, we have companies that have been restructured and are continuing to demonstrate uneven performance. This includes Thrasio, an Amazon aggregator, and Fishbowl, a marketing platform that helps restaurants drive guest engagement. In our experience, restructured companies often experience some level of volatility in their financial results as they work towards long-term recovery. As you may recall, Thrasio was restructured in early 2024. We placed the company on nonaccrual this quarter following a recent agreement to extend PIK interest for another twelve months. This extension provides management with the time needed to continue executing on key strategic initiatives, including streamlining the brand portfolio and diversifying beyond Amazon.
It also allows the company to navigate macro uncertainties, including tariff policy changes and potential softening in consumer confidence. Despite the PIK extension, we are encouraged that Thrasio's performance continues to improve with the support of several standout brands that are delivering strong results in their respective categories. Fishbowl, which underwent a restructuring in 2022, continues to make progress on its turnaround strategy with improved bookings. Despite the bookings momentum, near-term liquidity remains constrained. As a result, we decided to place the credit on nonaccrual. However, Fishbowl continues to meet its interest obligations through PIK interest. The second category of underperformance includes companies that are being impacted by lower demand, principally due to shifts in consumer purchasing behavior.
One example is 4840, a shipping and packaging service provider, which we discussed last quarter. In light of 4840's recent performance and outlook, we decided to place it on nonaccrual. In a similar situation, Brook and Whittle, a sustainable packaging and label manufacturer, has felt the effect of customers trading down to lower-cost providers to reduce their expenses. We are actively engaged with the management teams of each one of these portfolio companies as they work to address operational challenges and improve performance. In the second quarter, we marked down our position in AutoAlert, an automotive data analytics platform. As part of a restructuring in March 2023, we assumed control of the company, and since then, its performance has improved.
Even so, valuations for similar companies in the sector have recently come down, and our third-party valuation providers adjusted AutoAlert's valuation to reflect those broader market trends. We also substantially marked up several portfolio companies this quarter. Our largest gain was on Domo. We marked this investment up following a better-than-expected earnings report in the first quarter and are confident that Domo is on the right track for continued strong performance. Now turning to our dividend. Our Board declared a second-quarter dividend of $0.25 and a special dividend of $0.04 per share, both of which are payable on September 30 to shareholders of record on September 16.
As part of our commitment to supporting our shareholders, we also repurchased 40,830 shares of TCPC stock this quarter. Now I'll turn the call over to Jason to address our portfolio in more detail, as well as our recent investment activity.
Jason Mehring: Thanks, Phil, and welcome, everyone. During the second quarter, we remained focused on selectively deploying capital into opportunities directly aligned with our stated investment strategy. As a reminder, this includes investing in the core middle market, maintaining a well-diversified portfolio, prioritizing first lien loans, and leveraging the extensive resources of the BlackRock platform to optimize our opportunity set. Since the start of the year, we've invested $178 million in 13 new and 11 existing portfolio companies. Our average position size this year has been granular, at $7.4 million, lower than in prior years, and aligned with our overall diversification strategy. All of these investments are first lien loans.
We have continued to focus on companies supported by long-term growth drivers with strong fundamentals that exhibit economic resilience. In addition, repeat borrowers remain an important source of originations, and existing portfolio companies have accounted for 51% of our investment dollars year to date. Now I'll discuss three investments we made this quarter to illustrate how we're executing our strategy, particularly our emphasis on acting as a lender of influence. In each transaction, BlackRock served as the sole or lead lender. First, we invested $4.1 million as part of a $160 million first lien financing for The Difference Card, or TDC.
TDC enables small and midsized businesses to lower healthcare expenses by pairing high-deductible health plans with employer-funded reimbursement programs, allowing them to offer competitive coverage at a reduced cost. We were drawn to TDC's 20-plus year operating history, high customer retention rates, and ability to deliver meaningful savings to employers. The company benefits from a predictable recurring revenue model with healthy margins and low capital needs, resulting in strong cash flow generation. In addition, the transaction was structured with downside protection and supported by a conservative loan-to-value profile. This investment aligns with our strategy of backing resilient, capital-efficient businesses in essential, less cyclical sectors like healthcare, and our platform was able to serve as the lead lender in this transaction.
Second, we invested $6.9 million as part of a BlackRock-led $150 million first lien credit facility in Dragos, a leader in protecting operational technology and industrial control systems from cyberattacks. Dragos serves critical infrastructure sectors such as oil and gas and utilities, where its deeply embedded platform provides real-time threat detection and risk mitigation. Dragos has a large addressable market and is poised to benefit from favorable regulatory and secular tailwinds. We invested in Dragos due to its strong market position, mission-critical offering with high switching costs, impressive annual top-line growth of more than 50%, and improving profitability.
This deal highlights our emphasis on originating senior secured loans to resilient, high-growth businesses in less cyclical sectors and was structured with strong downside protection. Third, we invested $10 million as part of a $205 million first lien credit facility in Brown and Settle, a leader in site development for the construction of large commercial buildings, such as data centers. Brown and Settle is well-positioned for sustained growth, supported by a fully contracted backlog, strong relationships with blue-chip general contractors, and a significant footprint in Northern Virginia, one of the world's largest and fastest-growing data center hubs. This investment also reflects our focus on originating senior secured loans to middle-market borrowers in sectors that are benefiting from long-term tailwinds.
BlackRock was the sole provider of the credit facility, which includes a $185 million term loan and a $20 million revolver. This investment was sourced directly from the sponsor and structured to support Brown and Settle's continued growth while providing downside lender protection. At the end of the quarter, our portfolio had a fair market value of approximately $1.8 billion, invested across 153 companies in more than 20 industry sectors. Our average investment size was $11.7 million, or 65 basis points of the portfolio. The vast majority, or 89%, of that portfolio was invested in senior secured debt, all of which was in floating rate instruments.
Investment income remains broadly distributed across our diverse portfolio, with 76% of portfolio companies each contributing less than 1% of total income. The weighted average annual effective yield of our portfolio was 12% in the second quarter, compared to 12.2% in the prior quarter. New investments had a weighted average yield of 10.8%, while those we exited carried an average yield of 10.5%. Now I'll turn the call over to Erik, who will walk through our financial results, and capital and liquidity positions.
Erik Cuellar: Thank you, Jason. I will begin with a review of our financial results for the second quarter. As detailed in our earnings press release, adjusted net investment income excludes the amortization of the purchase accounting discount resulting from our merger with BCIC and is calculated in accordance with GAAP. A full reconciliation of adjusted net investment income to GAAP net investment income, as well as other non-GAAP financial metrics, is included in our earnings press release. Adjusted net investment income was $0.31 per share, and gross investment income was $0.61 per share in the second quarter. This compares to $0.36 and $0.66 per share, respectively, in the first quarter.
This quarter's gross investment income included recurring cash interest of $0.48 per share, nonrecurring income of $0.01, recurring discount and fee amortization of $0.03, PIK income of $0.07, and dividend income of $0.02 per share. PIK interest income represented 11.4% of total investment income, down from 11.6% last quarter. Operating expenses for the second quarter were $0.28 per share, including $0.02 per share of interest and other debt expenses. As of 06/30/2025, our cumulative total return did not exceed the total return hurdle, and therefore, no incentive compensation was accrued for the second quarter.
Additionally, we waived a portion of our base management fee again this quarter in line with our adviser's decision to waive one-third of our base management fee for the first March 2025. Net realized losses for the quarter were approximately $66 million, or $0.78 per share, driven by the restructuring of our investments in SellerX, Chorus, InMoment, and Renovo. These losses were already substantially reflected in last quarter's NAV. Net unrealized gains were $23 million, or $0.27 per share, primarily reflecting the reversal of previously recognized unrealized losses from the restructuring of the investments I just mentioned, partially offset by unrealized losses in AutoAlert and Brook and Whittle.
The net decrease in net assets for the quarter was $16 million, or $0.19 per share. As of 38 portfolio companies were on nonaccrual status, representing 3.7% of the portfolio at fair value and 10.4% at cost. This is down from 4.4% and 12.6%, respectively, as of March 31. The remainder of our portfolio is performing well. As Phil noted, we continue to work closely with our borrowers, their sponsors, and creditors to optimize our recovery value. Now I'll discuss our balance sheet and liquidity position. Our balance sheet remains strong. Total liquidity at quarter-end was $566 million, including $155 million of available leverage and $107 million in cash.
Unfunded loan commitments represented 8.6% of our $1.8 billion investment portfolio, or approximately $154 million, including $64 million in revolver commitments. Net regulatory leverage was 1.28 times at quarter-end, which was slightly above our target range of 0.9 times to 1.2 times. The increase was primarily due to the timing of new investments late in the quarter, a delay in expected repayments, and a decline in NAV. Based on our current outlook, we expect third-quarter leverage to return to approximately the levels reported in Q1. Our diversified leverage program includes three low-cost credit facilities, three unsecured note issuances, and an SBA program. The weighted average interest rate on debt outstanding at quarter-end was 5.2%, unchanged from the prior quarter.
Subsequent to quarter-end, we repaid the remaining $92 million outstanding of our 2025 notes, the first step in addressing our upcoming maturities. In July, we extended the maturity of our $200 million funding two credit facility to support future investment activity. Looking ahead, we are taking proactive steps to manage our capital structure, including evaluating the best alternatives to refinance our 2026 notes. Now I'll turn the call back to Phil for his closing remarks.
Phil Tseng: Thank you, Erik. Now I will provide an update on BlackRock's recently completed acquisition of HPS and the benefits it provides TCPC. Our entire team is very excited to join forces with HPS. This acquisition positions BlackRock to capitalize on the enormous opportunities that lay ahead in private credit. To fully capture those, BlackRock and HPS created a new platform called Private Financing Solutions, or PFS. PFS combines the firm's private credit and GP LP solutions and liquid and private credit CLO businesses into one single integrated platform. With more than $280 billion in total assets under management, PFS is well-positioned to provide both public and private income solutions.
We expect TCPC to benefit from the PFS platform in several ways. First, BlackRock is centralizing its private investment sourcing and origination team within PFS to maximize collaboration and effectiveness. TCPC will continue to directly source investments and will also leverage PFS's extensive deal sourcing and enriching capabilities to expand our pipeline. Second, the new PFS platform enhances our investment expertise and resources. With decades of experience executing thousands of successful private credit transactions, spanning performing and special situations across market cycles, we are already benefiting from the team's deep experience, knowledge, and insights.
We recently welcomed three senior credit investors from HPS to our investment committee and expect our close collaboration with the broader PFS team will enhance our sourcing, underwriting, and portfolio management capabilities now and over the long term. Third, BlackRock is now positioned as one of a few firms that can lead large private credit transactions. We're excited about the opportunity to participate in larger transactions where we are a lender of influence and that offer compelling risk-adjusted returns. In closing, while we are disappointed by the additional markdowns to our portfolio this quarter, we made progress in reducing nonaccruals and in sourcing attractive investments that position our portfolio to return to historical performance levels.
Our entire team continues to focus on diligently working through portfolio challenges to deliver the best possible outcomes for our shareholders. I want to thank our investors and analysts for your continued patience and support. We appreciate it, and we'll continue to keep you apprised of our progress. I'll now turn the call to the operator to open the call for questions.
Operator: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question today, please do so now by pressing star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you change your mind or you feel like your question has already been answered, you can press star followed by 2 to withdraw yourself from the queue. We will just take a brief pause to allow the questions to come in. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question today, please do so now by pressing star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Our first question today comes from Paul Johnson with KBW.
Please go ahead, Paul.
Paul Johnson: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. I guess you outlined some of the changes that have been made, you know, with the private financing solutions kind of reorganization, I guess, within BlackRock. But you added a few new people to the investment committee. How does that change the investment process going forward aside from kind of the benefits that you're trying to pull from, you know, the broader BlackRock and HPS sort of combined platform now? I mean, is there anything notable that you guys are implementing with the new investment committee members?
Phil Tseng: Hey, Paul. Thanks for the question. I think it's an important one to understand, you know, what the combined process and resourcing looks like. For sure. So certainly, changes, as we described in the call, on the investment process first will be on the front end on the origination and sourcing side. We described that PFS will be centralizing all originations. So the idea there being to leverage, you know, private equity sponsors, advisers, intermediaries, banks, and so on to ensure that, you know, the best middle market deals that's absolutely critical, and we're actually seeing, you know, in the past five weeks that we've been together, have started seeing deals that we otherwise wouldn't have seen.
So I think that's really positive. With respect to our investment process, we are continuing, you know, to do our normal process around our investment committee. We have our, you know, portfolio management process as well. That is being absolutely supplemented with the engagement of the HPS professionals, both those that are formally on our investment committee, but also much broader than that. So that's obviously very welcomed, you know. We do think that our experience in the market in direct lending has been vast, but layering onto that, you know, the vast experience of HPS and their, you know, decades of experience across direct lending and other credit strategies certainly is accretive to us.
I'll also add that HPS resources do come with depth on the restructuring side and portfolio management side. So there's a substantial group within HPS that's now within PFS that we have started to tap into. In fact, we've had a number of these restructuring professionals engaged in our portfolio companies already. And those are, you know, your financial, legal, or restructuring professionals, but also post-restructuring operational improvement private equity type restructuring professionals. So we've already started engaging with them. They're on a number of our portfolio companies. We've had those resources as part of BlackRock, but certainly enhancing our capabilities there is hopefully accretive to recovering value for some of our portfolio companies.
Paul Johnson: Got it. Appreciate that. So and I guess, you know, kind of tagging on to this, touched on some of this here in your response, but in BlackRock is scaling pretty fast, obviously, with the HPS acquisition here. And, you know, still seems like there's, you know, a lot of secular growth here left in the industry. I imagine BlackRock's gonna be looking to capture that.
But I mean, for TCPC, how do you, I guess, ensure, you know, through this, you know, period of growth, I think, that sector will continue to experience, you know, continues to get, you know, the proper access and proper resources from the platform and, you know, avoid kind of falling too low in priority or, you know, falling, you know, to, I guess, off the adviser's kind of, you know, priority list in terms of management. Yeah. Sure. That, you know, TCPC continues to get access to all these resources.
Phil Tseng: Yeah. That's a great question. And, you know, I think that folks can be assured that TCPC is an important strategic priority and overall priority for the PFS platform in BlackRock. Keep in mind, TCPC is the only publicly traded BDC on the PFS platform. You know, there are certainly other, you know, vehicles and pools of capital within PFS direct lending. But TCPC is important. And, you know, based on our engagement and involvement, you know, like I said, with the new committee members, with the engagement outside of the committee members across our investment process, whether it's origination, underwriting, or portfolio management or restructuring, the engagement's deep.
And so I would certainly attest to the importance of TCPC to HPS leadership as well as BlackRock.
Paul Johnson: Appreciate that. Thanks. And then last question was just on AutoAlert. Just on the markdown this quarter. You said the company was performing well. But it sounds like the mark this quarter was driven more due to comps? Or was there any sort of kind of performance-related mark in that asset as well this quarter?
Phil Tseng: Yeah. So our comment on AutoAlert was that the performance has improved since we restructured and took over the company. So it has made some improvements certainly on both revenue and EBITDA. But the valuation decline was more driven by the comps. So market multiples and value associated with these automotive data analytics providers.
Paul Johnson: Thank you. That's all for me.
Phil Tseng: Thanks, Paul.
Jason Mehring: Thank you.
Operator: Our next question comes from Robert Dodd with Raymond James. Please go ahead, Robert.
Robert Dodd: Hi, guys. On what do you can't obviously, you want to be a lender of influence, which obviously, I think we know why you want that. Now as a whole class, platform, PFS could obviously be a lender of influence without TCPC necessarily being a big piece of any given loan. So should we how should we think about that?
Is TCPC maybe gonna take small more diversified smaller bite sizes but PFS is going to be a lender of influence in the transaction, or is it that you want TCPC itself to be that lender of influence, in which case the bite sizes might be, you know, a little larger than they would be if it was if it was more flat driven influence.
Phil Tseng: Hey. Thanks, Robert. Yeah. So you saw in the last couple quarters of employment, our average ticket size coming out of TCPC was around 11, you know, million plus or minus. So clearly, TCPC in and of itself is not leading transactions. And so TCPC, as we've always kind of spoken about, get the benefit of being part of a larger platform, you know, and getting allocations of these deals similar to many of our peers in the BDC world. So it's no different now with the addition of HPS or broader PFS.
So there will be deals that we are now able to speak for the entirety of certainly lead, co-lead, and at least be a lender of influence and think the percentage of those deals will increase. And TCPC will get allocations to those deals. You know, just in looking at the last couple quarters in of itself, that search has been happening already.
Robert Dodd: Got it. Got it. Thank you. And then one more if I got I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Understood. Thank you. One more second. On the appointment, the write-down on in a lot of cases, we're already previously restructured assets, and it's not just in your portfolio. We're seeing it elsewhere where restructured assets are going through. In some cases, there's a second round of problems. Is there you know, is there a thing here where maybe first restructurings aren't as, you know, put a gross rent as aggressive as maybe they should be. And then this is more like a question about the restructuring market and the workout approach. Because it does seem to again, not just you.
Or not just TCPC, though. Where we're seeing more of these things kind of revisit, you know, write-down to a nonaccrual or whatever even after going through the process once. And it's happening more often to assets that have been through the process once than potentially to new assets. That are that are so any thoughts there on like, do restructurings and adjustments do they need to be more aggressive than they have been?
Phil Tseng: I think it's difficult to say, Robert. You know, I think it's a case-by-case basis. You know, I think there are I think there are market conditions or economic conditions or macro the macro environment surely has something to do with it as well. Right? If the high rate environment stays higher for longer, does that impact, you know, demand and or does, does inflation impact, you know, customer demand and so on? I think some of these, you know, estimates or forecasts in the macro side can have an impact on companies just like they do on new underwrite. So I think hindsight's always 2020.
But restructured businesses they're they are in challenging situations when they are going through restructurings. And as you know, the recoveries and performances of these businesses are not linear. Right, in terms of their recovery. So we're, you know, we're working extremely hard with the management teams of each one of these businesses to address the operational challenges and work to improve performance. And I think over time, we've been on the right side of those outcomes. And we're, you know, we're hoping to deliver on that again.
Robert Dodd: Got it. Thank you.
Phil Tseng: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. As a final reminder, if you would like to ask any questions today, please do so now by pressing. At this time, we have no further questions registered, and so I'll hand the call back to Phil Tseng for closing comments.
Phil Tseng: I'd like to thank our team for their continued and our investors and our analysts for your support. Please contact us with any questions, and have a great day. Thank you all.
Operator: Thank you everyone for joining us today. This concludes our call, and you may now disconnect your lines.