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DATE

  • Friday, Oct. 31, 2025, at 10 a.m. ET

CALL PARTICIPANTS

  • President & Chief Executive Officer — Devin Stockfish
  • Senior Vice President & Chief Financial Officer — Dave Wold

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RISKS

  • Wood Products Segment Losses — The company reported an adjusted EBITDA loss of $48 million for lumber and $3 million for OSB in Q3 2025, with management attributing this to “extremely challenging lumber and OSB prices in the quarter, which reached historically low levels on an inflation-adjusted basis.”
  • Southern Timber Pulpwood Markets — Management acknowledged “multi-decade lows,” according to Ketan Mamtora, in pulpwood pricing with ongoing pulp and paper mill closures, characterizing the situation as “an issue for the industry. I think it's gonna be challenging,” according to Devin Stockfish.
  • Elevated Leverage — Net debt to EBITDA stood at 4.3 times as of Q3 2025, which is described as “optically at least elevated leverage,” according to Anthony Pettinari, due to “trough Wood Products earnings.”

TAKEAWAYS

  • GAAP Earnings -- $80 million, or $0.11 per diluted share, on $1.7 billion in net sales for Q3 2025.
  • Adjusted Earnings Excluding Special Items -- $40 million, or $0.06 per diluted share, for the third quarter.
  • Adjusted EBITDA -- $217 million for the third quarter.
  • Cash from Operations -- $210 million in cash from operations for Q3 2025, with a quarter-end cash balance of approximately $400 million and total debt just under $5.5 billion.
  • Timberlands Portfolio Activity -- Two acquisitions totaling $459 million were completed in Q3 2025, offset by two divestiture packages expected to generate proceeds of over $410 million by year-end 2025, and total divestiture proceeds expected to exceed acquisition outlays.
  • Share Repurchase -- $25 million in shares repurchased in Q3 2025; $150 million year-to-date through Q3 2025.
  • Real Estate and Natural Resources Segment -- Adjusted EBITDA of $91 million for Q3 2025, $52 million lower sequentially but $28 million higher than the initial outlook; The average price per acre reached its highest quarterly level since late 2022 in Q3 2025.
  • Natural Climate Solutions -- Management maintained guidance for $100 million in adjusted EBITDA from Natural Climate Solutions by year-end 2025, supported by approval of a fourth carbon project and five additional projects in development.
  • Wood Products Segment Operating Posture -- Lumber production was down approximately 3% sequentially in Q3 2025, with average sales realizations down 11% in Q3 2025 and production is expected to be 10% lower in Q4 2025; OSB sales realizations were down 18% compared to the second quarter.
  • Capital Expenditures -- $125 million was spent in Q3 2025, including $32 million for the new Monticello, Arkansas EWP facility; 2025 CapEx guidance excluding Monticello narrowed to $380 million-$390 million.
  • Debt Refinancing -- A three-year $800 million term loan at 4.3% interest was secured in Q3 2025, with a portion used to prepay $500 million of 2026 maturities in Q3 2025.
  • Q4 Timberlands Outlook -- With moderation expected from seasonal factors and market dynamics in Japan and the U.S. South.
  • 2025 Full-Year Guidance Increase -- Real estate and ENR adjusted EBITDA guidance was raised to approximately $390 million for full year 2025, up $40 million from prior guidance.

SUMMARY

Weyerhaeuser (WY 2.13%) management emphasized ongoing portfolio optimization through acquisitions and divestitures, asserting total cash proceeds from divestitures will exceed acquisition costs and achievement of a multiyear timberland growth target set in September 2021. The company provided strategic clarity on capital allocation, maintaining a disciplined OpEx focus and highlighting financial strength despite elevated leverage from cyclically low EBITDA. Updated capital investment plans include approximately $130 million in fiscal 2025 investments for a new engineered wood facility in Monticello, Arkansas, while CapEx guidance for the core business was revised downward. Expansion in natural climate solutions continues, with carbon project approvals and steady progress toward achieving $100 million in adjusted EBITDA from Natural Climate Solutions by year-end 2025, and further segment details are slated for the upcoming Investor Day. Management stated that real estate markets remain healthy, supporting an increase in segment guidance, and HBU property prices are rising due to both mix and like-for-like improvements.

  • Weyerhaeuser reaffirmed its long-term constructive view on U.S. housing demand and demographic factors, while noting persistent shorter-term affordability and consumer sentiment challenges were suppressing new residential activity.
  • Management confirmed continued active evaluation of both timberland acquisitions and divestitures, using a disciplined, returns-focused approach and affirming recent transactions generated annual EBITDA increases near $50 million since 2020.
  • Operational flexibility in Southern pulpwood exposure and new EWP plant construction was highlighted as mitigating factors for regional fiber demand risks.
  • For the Japan export business, management expects temporary softness from market-specific regulatory factors but remains confident in customer positioning as European log costs rise, referencing opportunities for expanded U.S. log share in Asian markets, including India.
  • On leverage, management reiterated a commitment to investment-grade credit ratings.

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

  • Adjusted FAD: Adjusted Funds Available for Distribution; a REIT-specific metric showing distributable cash after adjustments for nonrecurring or non-cash charges.
  • CCS: Carbon Capture and Sequestration; capturing CO2 from sources or the atmosphere and storing it underground to reduce net emissions.
  • HBU: Higher and Better Use properties; timberlands with greater economic value as real estate than for timber production, often reflecting conversion to residential or commercial use.
  • Timberland A&D: Acquisition and Disposition activities related to buying or selling timberland assets for value optimization.
  • OpEx Culture: Organizational focus on operational excellence and cost discipline throughout the business cycle.
  • OSB: Oriented Strand Board; an engineered panel used extensively in construction, manufactured from layers of wood strands oriented in specific directions.
  • EWP: Engineered Wood Products; value-added wood products manufactured for strength and structural applications, including I-joists and solid sections used in building.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Devin Stockfish: Thanks, Andy. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Yesterday, Weyerhaeuser reported third quarter GAAP earnings of $80 million or $0.11 per diluted share, on net sales of $1.7 billion. Excluding special items, we earned $40 million or $0.06 per diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA totaled $217 million for the quarter. Our third quarter performance reflects solid execution by our teams against a very challenging market backdrop. Notwithstanding recent headwinds, we remain well positioned to navigate the current environment, given our deeply embedded OpEx culture and competitive cost structure. We've done considerable work over the last several years to align our strategy with the cyclicality of our businesses.

As a result, Weyerhaeuser is a much stronger company today than at any point in recent history. And we continue to demonstrate the durability of our portfolio, the strength of our balance sheet, and the flexibility of our capital allocation framework across market cycles. Looking forward, we remain constructive on the longer-term demand fundamentals that support growth for our businesses, and we're ready to capitalize on opportunities as market conditions improve. Before getting into the businesses, I'd like to provide an update on recent actions to further optimize, improve, and grow our Timberlands portfolio. Our recent Timberlands transactions are summarized on Page 18 of our earnings slide. In the third quarter, we completed two high-quality acquisitions totaling $459 million.

This includes our previously announced transaction for Timberlands in North Carolina and Virginia, and another acquisition of exceptional Timberlands in Washington state. Additionally, in the third quarter, we advanced three divestiture packages of noncore timberlands. One of which closed earlier this month and the other is under contract and scheduled to close later in the fourth quarter. These two transactions will result in $410 million of expected cash proceeds by year-end. We anticipate closing the third divestiture in early 2026 and expect total proceeds from all divestitures to exceed the cash outlay required for our recently completed acquisitions. These transactions represent a strategic opportunity to improve the quality and value of our portfolio.

As we've demonstrated over the last several years, we're committed to active portfolio management across our timber holdings and have remained disciplined and nimble in our approach to growing the value of our timber. Through this process, we've achieved the multiyear timberlands growth target we announced in September 2021. Over a similar period, we've also returned a substantial amount of cash back to shareholders through dividends and share repurchase and announced a compelling engineered wood products growth opportunity, all while maintaining a strong balance sheet. Moving forward, we will continue to evaluate capital-efficient opportunities that enhance the return profile of our timberlands, while also balancing other levers across our capital allocation framework to drive long-term value for our shareholders.

Additionally, in the third quarter, we completed the sale of our Princeton mill in British Columbia for $85 million. In September, we received $61 million of the proceeds in conjunction with the closing of the sawmill portion of the deal. We expect to receive the remainder of the transaction proceeds over the coming months, following the transfer of associated timber licenses in the province. It's worth noting that our other lumber operations in Canada are not affected by this transaction, and we continue to serve our customers from our two sawmills in Alberta. Turning now to our third quarter business results. I'll begin with Timberlands on pages six through nine. Timberlands contributed $80 million to second quarter earnings.

Adjusted EBITDA was $148 million, a $4 million decrease compared to the second quarter. In the West, adjusted EBITDA decreased by $9 million. Log pricing in the domestic market faced downward pressure in the third quarter, as supply remained ample and mills continue to carry elevated log inventories and navigate a very challenging lumber market. As a result, our average domestic sales realizations decreased moderately compared to the second quarter. Per unit log in haul costs increased in response to higher elevation harvest activity that's typical this time of year. And forestry and road costs were slightly lower than the prior quarter.

Our fee harvest volumes were moderately higher and exceeded our initial plan for the quarter, largely driven by fewer operational restrictions given a relatively light wildfire season. Moving on to our export business to Japan. Log markets in Japan softened somewhat in the third quarter in response to ongoing consumption headwinds in the Japanese housing market. As a result, our customers' finished goods inventories increased and log prices decreased. Despite this dynamic, our customers remain well positioned relative to imported European lumber, which continues to face headwinds in the Japanese market. For the quarter, our average sales realizations for export logs to Japan were moderately lower, and our sales volumes were moderately higher, largely due to the timing of vessels.

Turning to the South. Adjusted EBITDA for Southern Timberlands was $74 million, a $5 million increase compared to the second quarter. Southern sawlog markets moderated slightly in the third quarter, as log supply increased with drier weather conditions and as mills further adjusted to weaker lumber markets. In contrast, Southern fiber markets were relatively stable outside of a few localized regions impacted by recent mill closures. On balance, takeaway for our logs remained steady, given our delivered programs across the region. That said, our average sales realizations decreased slightly in response to a higher mix of fiber logs from increased thinning activity. Given favorable weather conditions, our fee harvest volumes increased slightly compared to the prior quarter.

Per unit log and haul costs were lower, and forestry and road costs were comparable. In the North, adjusted EBITDA increased slightly, due to the higher sales volumes resulting from the seasonal increase in harvest activity that's typical in the third quarter. Turning now to real estate, energy, and natural resources. On pages ten and eleven. Real Estate and ENR contributed $69 million to third quarter earnings and $91 million to adjusted EBITDA. Third quarter adjusted EBITDA was $52 million lower than the prior quarter but $28 million higher than our initial outlook for the segment, largely driven by the timing and mix of real estate sales.

It's worth noting that real estate markets have remained healthy year to date, and we continue to benefit from strong demand and pricing for HBU properties, resulting in high-value transactions with significant premiums to timber value. Notably, our average price per acre has steadily increased in 2025 and reached its highest quarterly level since late 2022. I'll now turn to our natural climate solutions business. First, on our carbon capture and sequestration project with Occidental Petroleum, which is expected to reach first injection in 2029. In the third quarter, Occidental announced the formation of a joint venture for the construction and operation of pipeline infrastructure between regional customers in the CO2 storage facility in Livingston Parish, Louisiana.

This represents another important milestone associated with our CCS project and underscores the importance of selecting sophisticated counterparties with strong technical, commercial, and project development expertise. Turning quickly to forest carbon. We have now received approval on our fourth project and currently have five additional projects under development. We continue to see solid demand for our credits given our commitment to developing projects that meet a high standard for quality and integrity. For 2025, we still expect a significant increase in credit generation and sales relative to the last couple of years. And overall, we remain on track to reach $100 million of adjusted EBITDA from our Natural Climate Solutions by year-end.

I'll note here that we are excited to go into much more detail on our natural climate solutions business, including multiyear growth targets, at our upcoming Investor Day in December. Now moving to Wood Products on pages 12 through 14. Excluding a special item associated with the sale of our Princeton mill, earnings for wood products was a $48 million loss in the third quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $8 million, a $93 million decrease compared to the second quarter. These results reflect extremely challenging lumber and OSB prices in the quarter, which reached historically low levels on an inflation-adjusted basis. Starting with lumber.

Third quarter adjusted EBITDA was a $48 million loss, as several ongoing headwinds persisted across the North American market. The Framing Lumber composite began the third quarter on a slight upward trajectory, largely supported by improving Western SPF pricing and broader concerns around the pending increase in duties on Canadian lumber. As the quarter progressed, demand softened seasonally and buyer sentiment turned much more cautious. In addition, the supply-demand imbalance worsened in response to elevated shipments of Canadian lumber into the US market, ahead of the increasing duties. Collectively, these dynamics drove composite pricing significantly lower through the balance of the quarter.

It's worth noting that we have seen pricing stabilize and move slightly higher for certain species over the last several weeks. At this point, the industry has largely worked through the excess lumber volume that entered the US prior to Canadian duties moving higher. Although we do expect the typical seasonal softening of demand as we enter the colder winter months. Leaner inventories combined with elevated duties in the new two thirty two tariff should support product pricing and bridge the market until we start ramping up for next year's building season. For our lumber business, production volumes decreased by approximately 3% compared to the second quarter.

This reflects our election in September to slightly moderate across our mill set, in response to the softer demand environment, as well as the volume impacts associated with the closing of our sale of our Princeton mill late in the quarter. As a result, our sales volumes were slightly lower compared to the second quarter, and unit manufacturing costs were higher. Our average sales realizations decreased by 11% in the third quarter and were generally in line with the framing lumber composite. Log costs were moderately lower. Now turning to OSB. Third quarter adjusted EBITDA was a $3 million loss, primarily driven by weaker product pricing in response to subdued residential construction activity.

Following a steady decline for most of the year, the OSB composite stabilized in August and was generally range-bound for the balance of the quarter, albeit at a much lower level than the prior quarter average. For our OSB business, average sales realizations decreased by 18% compared to the second quarter. Our sales volumes were comparable to the second quarter, unit manufacturing costs and fiber costs were moderately lower. Note that pricing has remained stable through October, similar to lumber, we do expect demand to improve early next year as we approach the spring building season. Engineered Wood Products adjusted EBITDA was $56 million, which was comparable to the second quarter.

It's worth noting that third quarter results included a one-time $7 million benefit from insurance proceeds associated with the fire at our MDF facility in Montana earlier this year. As for the performance of our EWP business, we continue to align our production with customer demand and single-family homebuilding activity, both of which softened somewhat in the third quarter. As a result, our sales volumes decreased for most products compared to the second quarter, and unit manufacturing costs increased. Notably, our average sales realizations for solid section and I-joist products were comparable to the prior quarter. The raw material cost decreased primarily for OSB webstock.

In distribution, adjusted EBITDA decreased by $4 million compared to the second quarter, largely due to a decrease in sales volumes. With that, I'll turn the call over to Davey to discuss some financial items and our fourth quarter outlook.

Dave Wold: Thanks, Devin, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin with key financial items, which are summarized on Page 16. In the third quarter, we generated $210 million of cash from operations and ended the quarter with approximately $400 million of cash and total debt of just under $5.5 billion. Our balance sheet, liquidity position, and financial flexibility remain solid, notwithstanding the challenging market backdrop, and we are well positioned to navigate a range of market conditions. Share repurchase activity totaled $25 million in the third quarter, and as of quarter-end, we had completed approximately $150 million of share repurchase activity for the year.

Capital expenditures were $125 million in the third quarter, which includes $32 million related to the construction of our EWP facility in Monticello, Arkansas. As we previously communicated, the total investment for the facility is expected to be approximately $500 million to be incurred through 2027. For full year 2025, we anticipate approximately $130 million of investments for Monticello. And as a reminder, CapEx associated with this project will be excluded for purposes of calculating adjusted FAD as used in our cash return framework. Excluding CapEx for Monticello, we have lowered guidance for our typical CapEx program to a range of $380 million to $390 million in 2025.

It's worth noting that we are always evaluating our capital allocation levers and have the flexibility within our framework to make adjustments in response to market conditions, alternate uses of cash, and to fund growth opportunities. Given the timing of cash inflows and outflows associated with recently announced Timberland transactions and typical liability management activities, we took advantage of the beneficial rate environment in the third quarter to secure a three-year $800 million term loan with an effective interest rate of 4.3%. And we used $500 million of the proceeds to prepay a portion of our 2026 maturities. Third quarter results for our unallocated items are summarized on page 15.

Adjusted EBITDA for this segment increased by $30 million compared to the second quarter, primarily attributable to changes in intersegment profit elimination and LIFO. Looking forward, key outlook items for the fourth quarter are presented on Page 19, and updates to full-year outlook items are presented on Page 20. In our Timberlands business, we expect fourth quarter earnings before special items and adjusted EBITDA to be approximately $30 million lower than 2025, largely driven by lower sales volumes and realizations in the West. Turning to our Western Timberlands operations. Log demand in the domestic market remained soft at the outset of the fourth quarter as mills continue to work through elevated log inventories and navigate a challenging lumber market.

That said, log supply typically moderates into the winter months, which should provide some support for log pricing as the quarter progresses. On balance, our domestic sales realizations are expected to be moderately lower compared to the third quarter. Our fee harvest volumes are expected to decrease, largely due to fewer working days in the fourth quarter and the pull forward of volume over the summer with minimal wildfire-related operational restrictions. Our per unit log in haul costs are expected to be lower and forestry and road costs are expected to decrease seasonally. Moving to our log export program to Japan. As Devin mentioned, log inventories have expanded in the Japanese market in response to ongoing consumption headwinds.

As a result, we expect softer demand for our logs in the fourth quarter and lower sales volumes compared to the prior quarter. That said, we anticipate our Japanese log sales realizations to be slightly higher, largely driven by freight-related benefits. It's worth noting that we expect demand for our logs to improve over time as inventories normalize in the Japanese market and as our customers continue to take market share from competing imports of European lumber.

Devin Stockfish: Turning to the South, sawlog markets remain muted as mills continue to navigate lower pricing and takeaway of lumber and work through elevated log inventories. However, we anticipate a slight uptick in log demand as supply decreases seasonally into the winter months. In contrast, fiber markets are expected to remain relatively stable outside of a few localized regions impacted by recent mill closures. On balance, takeaway for our logs is expected to remain steady given our delivered programs across the region. And we anticipate our sales realizations to be comparable to the third quarter. Our fee harvest volumes and forestry and road costs are expected to decrease seasonally. And per unit log in haul costs are expected to be higher.

In the North, our fee harvest volumes are expected to be moderately lower, due to seasonal wet weather conditions, and we anticipate slightly lower sales realizations due to mix. Moving to our real estate, energy, and natural resources segment. Real estate markets have remained healthy year to date, and we have capitalized on strong demand and significant premiums to timber value. As a result, we are increasing our guidance for full year 2025 adjusted EBITDA to approximately $390 million, an increase of $40 million from prior guidance.

Dave Wold: We now expect basis as a percentage of real estate sales to be 25% to 30% for the year. And we remain on track to reach $100 million of EBITDA from our natural climate solutions business by year-end. For the segment, we expect fourth quarter earnings before special items to be approximately $5 million lower and adjusted EBITDA to be approximately $15 million lower than the 2025 due to the timing and mix of real estate sales. Turning to our wood products segment. Excluding the effect of changes in average sales realizations for lumber and OSB, we expect fourth quarter earnings before special items and adjusted EBITDA to be slightly lower than the 2025.

We anticipate a slightly softer demand environment for Wood Products in the fourth quarter as housing and R and R activity typically moderates into the winter months. Looking further out, we would expect demand to increase into next year's spring building season and more broadly as the macro environment improves. Composite pricing for lumber and OSB has been relatively stable through October. That said, pricing for both products remains at historically low levels, on an inflation-adjusted basis and slightly below third quarter averages. For our lumber business, we slightly reduced our at the end of the third quarter in response to the softer demand environment, and have maintained a similar operating posture through October.

Assuming we continue with this reduced posture for the remainder of the quarter, combined with the effect of the Princeton sale, our lumber production would be approximately 10% lower quarter over quarter. As a result, we anticipate lower sales volumes in the fourth quarter. Unit manufacturing costs are expected to be comparable to the prior quarter, and log costs are expected to decrease moderately. Looking forward, we will continue to ensure our operating posture is aligned with driving optimal financial performance. For our OSB business, we expect sales volumes and fiber costs to be comparable to the third quarter. Unit manufacturing costs are expected to be higher due to planned annual maintenance outages that are typical in the fourth quarter.

For our engineered wood products business, we continue to align our production with customer demand, which is most notably tied to single-family home building activity. As a result, we anticipate lower sales volumes for most products, compared to the third quarter with our average sales realizations and raw material costs expected to be comparable. For our Distribution business, we expect adjusted EBITDA to be comparable to the third quarter. With that, I'll now turn the call back to Devin and look forward to your questions.

Devin Stockfish: Thanks, Davey. Before wrapping up this morning, I'll make a few comments on the housing and repair and remodel markets. Starting with housing. Overall, housing activity has remained lackluster this year, with total starts hovering around 1.3 million units on a seasonally adjusted basis and single-family starts below 1 million units. Based on conversations with our homebuilder customers, the biggest issues continue to be ongoing affordability challenges and weaker consumer confidence. While mortgage rates have declined to the low 6% range, many potential homebuyers remain on the sidelines given elevated uncertainty about the economy, inflation, and employment. The ongoing government shutdown is likely also not having an impact on overall sentiment.

All said, consumers have been less inclined to jump into the housing market in 2025, given all the noise in the broader macro environment. Moving forward, it seems we could see some of the tariff-related concerns easing over time, we might also get additional support from the Fed on interest rates in the coming months. And hopefully, the government shutdown will end soon. Perhaps clarity in these areas could alleviate some of the uncertainty that's been weighing on consumers in the housing market. And while I suspect we'll see the typical seasonal pattern of slowing construction activity over the winter months, we do expect to improve as we approach next year's spring building season.

Over the longer term, our outlook on housing fundamentals remains favorable, supported by strong demographic tailwinds and a vastly underbuilt housing stock. In addition, there seems to be a growing appreciation that government policies need to better accommodate building activity to address housing shortages across the country. All of this will ultimately support healthy demand for housing over time. Turning to the repair and remodel market. Activity has been softer this year compared to 2024, largely driven by many of the same factors impacting the residential construction market. Namely lower consumer confidence, higher interest rates, and concerns around the trajectory of the economy.

We've also seen less R and R activity in response to lower turnover of existing given higher mortgage rates and the lock-in effect. Looking forward, while we do expect seasonal moderation in R and R activity around the holidays, we're optimistic that demand will recover as interest rates move lower and consumer confidence improves. In addition, we think the dynamic around deferral of large discretionary projects over the last few years will ultimately serve as a tailwind as the macro environment improves. And longer term, many of the key drivers supporting repair and remodel activity remain intact, including favorable home equity levels and an aging housing stock.

In closing, I'm extremely proud of the focus and resilience demonstrated by our teams in the third quarter. Despite the challenging market backdrop, we continue to execute against our strategy and demonstrate the durability of our portfolio and capital allocation framework across market cycles. Our financial position is strong and we continue to capitalize on strategic opportunities to enhance the value of our portfolio. And looking forward, we maintain a favorable outlook on the longer-term demand fundamentals that support growth in housing, repair and remodel, and climate solutions. And we remain focused on driving operational excellence, serving our customers, and creating long-term value for our shareholders.

And finally, we look forward to connecting with many of you at our upcoming Investor Day on December 11. Davey and I will be joined by other members of our senior management team to present a detailed overview of our strategic growth plan, enterprise capabilities, and financial targets through 2030. For those of you who plan to attend the event virtually, please visit our website to register in advance for the live webcast. And with that, I think we can open it up for questions. Thank you.

Operator: We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Susan Maklari with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.

Susan Maklari: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. My first question was on good morning, everybody. I want to talk a bit about how you're thinking of lumber and OS capacity. Appreciating the comments around the fact that your lumber production will be 10% sequentially lower in the fourth quarter. Expectations that housing activity could pick up as we get into the spring. But I guess as we think about what the builders are telling us, especially the big publics that they're gonna slow start late this year, and that sounds like it could hold into early 2026 as well. How are you thinking about the potential for further capacity to come out of your business?

What are you watching for signs to determine if that's necessary? And how are you thinking about balancing the near term and the initiatives that you've put through with OpEx, which are obviously coming together and allowing perhaps for some share gains relative to the longer-term demand outlook.

Devin Stockfish: Yeah. I mean, great question, Sue. You know, the reality is this has been a really challenging year from a lumber standpoint and of late from an OSB standpoint. And that's largely been driven by just the dynamic that we've seen in the housing market primarily, but to a certain degree by repair and remodel as well. And, you know, I think there are a lot of reasons to expect that over the medium to longer term, you know, we need a lot of housing in the US. And so we're still very bullish on housing in the US.

But as you say, in the near term, both from the standpoint of just the general consumer confidence environment, affordability, and then, obviously, we're going into that time of year where we typically see some slowdown in residential construction. You know, I don't think we have an expectation that we're gonna see the demand environment for those products pick up dramatically here as we close out the year. So as we think about our operating posture, we look at a number of different factors as you would expect. We think about consumer commitments, we think about balancing our fee volumes to maximize profitability across our integrated portfolio.

We think about trying to maximize our earnings at both the mill and the regional level. Because of the nature of our portfolio, there are some dynamics at play with us maybe that wouldn't necessarily be the case for less integrated companies. We think about it from a short-term and long-term perspective. And, really, you know, we also look at it from a competitive dynamic in our space and really how we want to position ourselves with our customers. And that includes our position on the cost curve, all the levers that we can pull with our integrated scale business, the cost structure, the OpEx environment. So there are a lot of things that go into that.

You know, for us, I do think that you know, look. From an operating margin perspective, I think we've demonstrated we're best in class. I think we're well positioned on the cost curve. And so we're gonna continue to watch that as we progress through the quarter. I will say, you know, stepping back from our operating posture specifically, when we look at the industry as a whole, you know, it's been a tough environment. And we've seen some level of capacity announcements here recently. I think there's some quiet downtime going on in the market as well. But producers are not going to continue to operate below cash breakeven indefinitely.

Something is going to have to change and absent, you know, some dynamic with the demand environment, that's gonna have to come on the supply side. And that's just kind of the reality of where we are, at least until we start getting ramped up for the building season.

Susan Maklari: Yeah. Okay. I appreciate all those comments. And then maybe turning to the Timberland side of the business, you know, it's nice to see the acquisitions and some of those sales that you announced this quarter that will be coming through. I guess as you think about your Timberlands portfolio and having reached the goals that you had set for yourself at the last investment, Investor Day. How are you thinking about the positioning today? What should we expect going forward? And can you talk a bit about how you're thinking of the general footprint there?

Devin Stockfish: Yeah. Look, Sue. I mean, we're really pleased with the Timberland portfolio activity that we've been able to complete over the course of this year in advance into early next year. Look. That's something that is a core part of who we are and we do. We're always gonna be active in this space. We're very pleased to have completed the target that we set out a few years ago. As a reminder, I'd say that was really our view of what we thought was a realistic level of programmatic M&A that we could affect in a disciplined fashion over a multiyear period.

And so as we said at the time, we expect to be active, looking for opportunities to optimize our Timberlands portfolio in a disciplined fashion, and that will continue to be true going forward where we can find acquisitions that we think create value. I think we've demonstrated that we can create value anytime we transact whether on the buy or sell side. So we'll continue to look for opportunities to optimize our portfolio moving forward.

Susan Maklari: Okay. Thank you for the color, and good luck with the quarter.

Devin Stockfish: Thanks.

Operator: Our next question comes from George Staphos with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

George Staphos: Hey, everyone. Good morning. Thanks for all the details. Good morning. Appreciate the commentary and taking my questions. So I wanted to dig in a little bit more into the portfolio transactions you made in Timberlands. Devin, what do you think the net cash generation has been benefited by the acquisitions relative to the divestitures? What do you think the sort of cash flow if you had to look at it per acre, has benefited just across, you know, what you sold relative to what you gained.

Dave Wold: Yeah. George, this is Davey. I'll take that one. And I'll have to mention that in a couple of ways. I mean, obviously, we've got the transactions that we're executing on here in the current environment. I think if you look back to 2020 over the series of acquisitions and divestitures, that we've completed, that's somewhere in the neighborhood of $50 million of an increase to our annual EBITDA that we've been able to generate through the buy and sell activity. So it's a phenomenal way for us to continue to look to increase the cash flow generating capabilities and optimize the portfolio.

The transactions that we're working on this year, on the buy side, we've said that's on a 21 times EBITDA multiple compared to the 45 times multiple. A divestitures perspective. We've disclosed the cash yield, so I think you can go do the math on what you think that looks like. Again, I think it's really important to note that we have the ability to create value anytime we're transacting on our portfolio, whether on the buy side, whether on the sell side.

And I think our integrated portfolio, the scale and diversity, that gives us a way to unlock value on these types of transactions that others may not be able to do with the tools and teams that we've invested in over time. I think it uniquely positions us to execute in a disciplined fashion in this space.

George Staphos: Thanks, Davey. I guess my other question would be aimed at lumber in particular. So again, recognizing that you are low on the cost curve and you have higher margins in the sector from what we can see, nonetheless, you know, black at the bottom was born from an absolute need way back when. Coming out of the crisis to improve the cash flow kind of irrespective of what everybody else was doing where you're at and recognizing there's been a lot of progress, when we look at EBITDA losses this quarter versus I guess, last year's third quarter, pricing was about the same. But the EBITDA loss was a bit further.

What and maybe we'll talk more about this at the Analyst Day, but what are you doing to lower cost and try to get to a breakeven at these very, very labored, if you will, price levels for lumber. Thanks so much.

Devin Stockfish: Yeah. I mean, I'll make a few high-level comments on George. I mean, we've been focused on costs and OpEx for going on a decade at this point. And I think you can see that in our relative position against most of the industry. You know, the reality is we are operating in an environment that is extremely challenged at present. You know? The pricing dynamic that we are seeing currently is really one of the toughest pricing environments we've seen in a very long time. Now I think when you think about black at the bottom, I do think kind of pre-pandemic and high single-digit inflationary environment that we saw for a few years, we were there.

The reality is you know, when you see inflation go up like that, it's gonna take us a little bit longer to kind of work all the way back down there. There's just there's a scenario in any environment where prices go so low that you know, it's gonna be very difficult. I think that's where we are right now, and you can kind of see that hitting the entire industry. Again, we're well positioned on the cost curve. I think we're navigating the environment better than most. But the driver for negative earnings was just the weak price environment.

And we did elect to reduce our operating posture a little bit in September, and we're carrying that through to October. But, you know, we're gonna keep focused on efficiencies, we're gonna keep focusing on reliability and cost and all the things that we do to make sure that we have world-class manufacturing operations. And to the extent that we do see a little bit of improvement in pricing, we'll be back in the positive from an EBITDA standpoint on lumber.

George Staphos: Devin, if I could just if prices held at these levels, and we recognize why they can't, because of where prices are for everybody in the in the fourth quartile and so on. Let's assume, just for instance, that price is held at these levels. Would you be able to, within the course of a year, two years, through whatever actions and things that you know you have on your whiteboard, to actually get to a breakeven level on a cash basis. Thanks so much, and good luck in the quarter.

Devin Stockfish: Yeah. I mean, we've got a path there. Every mill has a road map to get to first quartile cost structure. We're frankly largely there at most of our mills. So we have lots of things on the drawing board, and we're gonna talk about some of that at our Investor Day and the continuing OpEx work that we're doing, and we're supplementing that. Some of the things that we're doing from an innovation standpoint. So we're never done. But, again, tough environment right now. It's not gonna stay this way forever. It's unsustainable. And we'll be well positioned to take advantage of the market as things start to improve.

George Staphos: Alright. Thanks so much.

Devin Stockfish: Yep. Thank you.

Operator: Our next question comes from Anthony Pettinari with Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Anthony Pettinari: Morning. When we look at hey. When we look at leverage net debt to EBITDA at 4.3 times, I know that's backwards looking on what should be kind of trough Wood Products earnings. I'm just if we do have a more muted year in 2026, like, you know, it seems like we have had in '25, you just talk about kind of guardrails on leverage, you know, the levers that you can pull, you know, potentially to delever? Capital allocation priorities maybe in if you if we kind of imagine maybe a bit of a tougher scenario in '26 or just generally kind of how you think about that you know, given what's kind of optically at least elevated leverage?

Devin Stockfish: Yeah. Look, Anthony. I mean, think Devin laid it out well in his prepared remarks. We've done considerable work over the last several years to align our strategy with the cyclicality of our businesses. So with the strength of our company today, we have a tremendous number of levers. I think you hit on it right. I mean, really, the a LTM net debt to EBITDA perspective, what you're seeing there is that with the EBITDA coming down, you're seeing that number tick up. But importantly, that's a number that's designed to be a mid-cycle evaluation. And we expect to be well under that target as EBITDA levels normalize over time.

I mean, I think from the starting point, we remain committed to maintaining that investment-grade credit rating, and that's gonna be a guiding principle as we think about all the ways that we navigate these challenging markets. But, again, I think our view is that eventually, we're gonna see these markets improve, and see that number normalize over time.

Anthony Pettinari: Okay. That's helpful. And then you know, your two public Timber REIT peers are combining into one company. And I'm not asking you to comment on competitors, but I'm just wondering if you can share any thoughts on the consolidation we've seen in the timber space over the years. Maybe you can remind us how much you actually face off against Potlatch and Rayonier in your local markets. And if, you know, if public timber REITs are moving, I guess, to don't know, Coke and Pepsi, like, how should investors think about Weyerhaeuser's relative value proposition?

Devin Stockfish: Yeah. I mean, like you say, we're not probably gonna comment too much on that acquisition. I will just say, you know, from a high level, you know, we obviously agree that there's a significant benefit to scale and to having an integrated business. We've been operating that way for a very long time. We think that there are a lot of opportunities to create value in having a scale integrated model. You know, we compete against each of them in local markets. As we compete against other landowners, both small, private landowners, TMOs, etcetera. We'll compete against them in more or less the same way. Once they combine.

I do think, you know, from our standpoint, know, it's important to keep in mind. Right? So we have 10.4 million acres. We're one of the largest wood products manufacturers in North America. I don't think this fundamentally changes in terms of the competitive operating environment in any region in any sort of meaning. Way. But, again, you know, I do think scale and integrated business makes sense. So there's some logic in the deal.

Anthony Pettinari: Okay. That's very helpful. I'll turn it over.

Devin Stockfish: Alright. Thank you.

Operator: Our next question comes from Mark Weintraub with Seaport Research Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Mark Weintraub: Thank you. First, a small one maybe leads into a bigger one. So on the HBU, you had pointed out that prices have been rising over the course of this year. Is that a function of just the mix of what you're selling? Or is it that you're seeing higher pricing for like properties than you were before?

Devin Stockfish: Yeah. I mean, I think it's a little bit of both. There's always a component of mix. Right? Because every quarter, there's gonna be a slightly different mix of the properties that you're selling. So there's a part of it that's that, and there's some geography dynamics at play there as well. But I would say on balance, what we are seeing is on a like-for-like basis, we're continuing to see the prices that people are paying for this go up. And I think so it's a combination of both of those things, Mark.

Mark Weintraub: Okay. Great. And then, also, I hear you on the buying and the selling of Timberlands and how optimizing the portfolio is very, very beneficial makes total sense. At the same time, it's very interesting that the per acre, at least to me, the per acre values that we're seeing as well as the multiples of cash flow that you were relaying are as high as they are. If anything, it does seem like Timberland values, like HBU in the private market transaction seems to be trending higher too. And, obviously, your stock hasn't fared as well, lots of other variables at play.

But does that color your appetite to be more aggressive on the sell side than on the buy side? And, also, as you've gone out particularly, and sold some acreage, is your sense that there's, you know, a fair bit of money still looking to be deployed in the timberland space? Kind of color on that would be great.

Devin Stockfish: Yeah, Mark. Let me comment just broadly on the overall Timberlands market. I mean, we continue to see very strong interest in the asset class. We talked about the amount of capital that's been raised to pursue these assets. There's a lot of that still sitting out there, several billion dollars that's not yet been placed. You know, really, if we go back to the genesis of our 2021 target in Timberlands, that was really coming from the standpoint there's going to be an increasing scarcity in the availability of that we have made over the last several years. And so I think that's guided our strategy, and I think it's an important element as we move from here.

I would just make one other kind of comment generally on that, Mark, and that is you know, when you think about both the values that we're paying to bring the Timberlands into our portfolio, and the value of the Timberlands that we're selling, you know, embedded in that is really a, our team on the A&D side, spends a lot of time out looking for high-quality deals, and I think you can see that really in all of the transactions that we've brought in. We're looking for very high-quality timberlands with good cash flow generation, that can also create value through our integration, NCS, alternative values.

So to some degree, the value that we're paying is reflective of the team's work and what we're looking for. But, also, even on the sell side, you know, I think and maybe this was part of your question. We have a very high-quality timberlands portfolio existing. And so even when you think about some of the deals that we're selling, which are noncore to us, it is reflective of what is a very high-quality timberlands portfolio that we've assembled over, frankly, a hundred years. And so I think both of those things play into the value that you're seeing on the buy side and sell side when we do deals.

Mark Weintraub: That's helpful. And speak to maybe just one quick follow on. Given that is the case, it would seem that discrepancy between how the public markets are valuing your stock, recognizing it's tough times in wood products, and that's certainly playing a role. But are there other things that you are contemplating to help bridge at least what is a temporary seeming very, very wide gap between NAV and where the stock trades.

Devin Stockfish: Yeah. Look, Mark, that's always on our mind. I mean, we're always out here trying to think about how we can create shareholder value, and part of that means looking at that very item. I think we're gonna have a lot of items that we'll walk through at our Investor Day in December on that topic. I think we've been focused for a while now on how we can ultimately grow the value of the company and drive cash flow improvement through the cycle. So I think we'll have more to say about that in December.

Mark Weintraub: Okay. Thanks, guys.

Devin Stockfish: Thank you.

Operator: Our next question comes from Kurt Yinger with D. A. Davidson. Please proceed with your question.

Kurt Yinger: Great. Thanks. I think Mark had a lot of good questions there. But maybe just dovetailing and trying to kind of wrap it up. Like, Dave, you talked about remaining kind of active. From a portfolio management perspective. And does that mean that we should expect that you guys will remain acquisitive going forward? Or just help me understand kind of that balance between being a buyer and versus maybe a net seller looking ahead.

Devin Stockfish: Yeah. Look. Well, again, we're gonna consider all the options to create shareholder value. We think we can create value on both the buy side and the sell side. I mean, I will note one of the realities here in the current environment as we look at all of the capital allocation alternatives that are available to us when the inputs on some of the other alternatives are more attractive. That does raise the bar on what going to take from a Timberland acquisition perspective.

But, you know, I think it's indicative of the quality of the acquisitions that we're completing this year, that they cleared that bar, and that's something we're always gonna be looking at as we make those decisions.

Kurt Yinger: Okay. Switching gears to the wood products side, a little bit surprising to see the EWP realizations up a bit in Q3. It sounds like you're expecting pricing to be stable in Q4. Is there anything temporarily benefiting that? I mean, it seems to kind of diverge at least from what we've heard around the market. And how are you thinking about kind of overall competitive dynamics and what you're seeing out there?

Devin Stockfish: Yeah. I mean, well, look. The EWP market has been under some pressure this year just as residential construction activity has been soft for a bit. As you know, EWP demand is largely driven by residential construction. And with the housing market being stuck in second gear, no doubt that's been a bit of a headwind. And, you know, we've seen pricing come down somewhat over the course of 2025, but that being said, I do think that we've managed the environment fairly well.

We've mitigated some of the downward pressure, and that's largely a function of you know, the power of our Trust Choice brand, the quality of our products, and really I think, to a large degree, the service model that we provide to our customers. And so you know, while there has been some pressure on pricing, we're doing everything that we can to bring value to our customers in what is a tough environment. And I'd also say, you know, in this environment, which has been challenging, we're also out there working to take market share. Take market share from competitors, take market share from open web.

So you know, we're out there really pushing, and I think it's a testament to the team that you know, we've been able to keep our market share, grow our market share, keep the pricing relatively stable in what is a very challenging environment. And you know, we'll adjust our operating posture, you know, as needed, you know, through Q4, as we said. But ultimately, we feel like we have a really good brand, a really good business here in EWP, and we're gonna continue to look to find ways to take advantage whether we're in good markets or bad markets.

Kurt Yinger: Okay. Got it. Appreciate the color. Thank you.

Devin Stockfish: Yep. Thank you.

Operator: Our next question comes from Ketan Mamtora with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Ketan Mamtora: Thank you. Good morning, and thanks for taking my question. Maybe to start with, on the Timberland side, particularly in the US South, we've seen a lot of pressure on pulpwood prices here in the last four to six quarters. And it you know, I mean, these are at kind of multi-decade lows right now. Some of it is cyclical weakness, but we've also seen a lot of pulp and paper mill shutdowns. So it seems like kind of will be hard to reverse here.

So can you sort of talk to, you know, kind of what you guys are seeing out in the pulpwood side and you know, how you at least in your sort of, you know, wood baskets, what can you do to help mitigate some of that? I guess the engineered wood plant that you are building will help, but anything outside of that?

Devin Stockfish: Sure. Well, the reality is, as you say, I mean, it's unfortunately been the case that we have seen a lot of pulp and paper capacity coming out of the system, and that's something it's not new. This has been going on for a while. But even this year, you know, we've seen several fairly large pulp and paper mills shutting down. Now I will say one of the benefits to the diversification that we have, you know, geographically, as well as just the integrated model that we have, the scale that we have, we do have levers that we can pull when you see those market dynamics.

And even with the mills that have shut down recently, we're typically able to just move volume to different customers. It probably impacts us maybe to a lesser degree than some others. We also have some levers. For example, one of the IP mills that shut down, we were able to move some of that volume to our OSB mill. And so we have some levers. As you say, the engineered wood products timber strand facility that we're building in Arkansas will be using a fair bit of pulpwood in that geography. But it's an issue. It's an issue for the industry. I think it's gonna be challenging.

We do have some ideas in frankly, we're gonna lay some of those out at our Investor Day. So I'm not gonna front run that, but it's an issue. I would say, though, for us, on balance, fiber demand has been pretty steady lately. You see a few dips here and there on pricing least temporarily, when you see a mill close down. But I think we're doing a pretty good job over in navigating that.

Ketan Mamtora: Got it. No. That's helpful. And then you know, switching here to sort of capital allocation, you know, I would a lot of discussion here on the call around both acquisitions and divestitures in Timberland. I'm curious on the downstream side, given how you know, extended the downturn has been in lumber, would that be sort of an area of interest from an inorganic growth standpoint for Weyerhaeuser?

Devin Stockfish: Yeah. Look. Ketan. We're, you know, we've had a focused M&A strategy. I think you've seen us be really active on the Timberland side over the last several years with the portfolio improvement opportunities, but we're always evaluating, looking at opportunities for bolt-on as well as potential larger scale M&A opportunities. But, of course, as always, they've gotta meet our stringent criteria. We are focused on making sure that the assets are complementary or accretive to our industry-leading portfolio. They've gotta be cohesive with our longer-term strategy and drive significant value for our shareholders. So that's really how we think about it.

Ketan Mamtora: Got it. No. That's, that's helpful. I'll turn it over. Good luck.

Devin Stockfish: Thank you.

Operator: Our next question comes from Hamir Patel with CIBC. Please proceed with your question.

Hamir Patel: Hi, good morning. David, I was just wondering how you think about the opportunity to grow Southern pine log exports. I know, you know, China's cut off, but what sort of opportunity do you see in India over time?

Devin Stockfish: Yeah. I mean, we're really excited about the opportunity. Obviously, we would prefer the China market get opened back up, and I can tell you we're having conversations with the administration about that topic on an ongoing basis. But in the interim, I do think the silver lining behind the China log ban has been it's really increased our focus on India. And I do think that there's a pretty significant opportunity there. We've been growing our India export business as well as, frankly, trying some additional markets in Southeast Asia.

Again, we're gonna go into a lot more detail about that opportunity at our investor day, but I would just leave you with I think it's a real opportunity for us. We have been growing it, and we have some plans to grow it meaningfully from here.

Hamir Patel: Fair enough. That's all I had. I'll turn it over. Thanks.

Devin Stockfish: Thank you.

Operator: Our next question comes from Matthew McKellar with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Matthew McKellar: Good morning. Thanks for all the great detail so far. Just two quick questions on Japan for me. First, should that inventory destocking phenomenon be relatively short-lived in your view? Maybe a one-quarter headwind or could that persist longer? And then second, you addressed demand conditions, but I was wondering if you could also provide some perspective on how supply has trended over the last quarter or so. Is there anything we should be thinking about around trends in the supply side, maybe around imports from Europe or elsewhere that maybe have also contributed to this situation? Thanks very much.

Devin Stockfish: Yeah. Happy to answer that. I do think it's gonna be relatively short-lived. You know, the issue without getting into too much detail, there was a regulatory change in Japan that impacted the timeline in getting permits for smaller houses. And that created a real backlog in managing those permits. And so what you saw was a bit of a slowdown in the housing environment. We expect our customers expect that we'll resolve it itself and things should normalize. I mean, they have some headwinds from a demographic standpoint, of course. But that being said, our customers are really, really well positioned in that market.

And, you know, candidly, notwithstanding some of the challenges that they have in Japan, the customer base that we have, the cost structure that they have, the mill investments that they're making. I'm as optimistic about the Japanese opportunity in the midterm as I have been in a while. So we think that the headwind on consumption should resolve itself relatively soon. The big dynamic at play currently is just that relative cost position of our customers with our logs from the Northwest competing against European supply. In Europe, log costs in many of the key producing regions have been going up fairly dramatically. Add in some other cost competitive dynamics at play.

It's just a really challenging environment for European lumber coming to that market. And so our customers are taking advantage of this, and they're really looking to grow market share. And so like I say, I'm pretty optimistic about that opportunity over the medium term.

Matthew McKellar: Yep. Thank you.

Operator: Our next question comes from Hongliang Zhang with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Hongliang Zhang: Yes. Hey, thanks for taking my question. I guess you adjusted lumber production in response to the weakness in prices. But with OSB pricing where it is, would you potentially reduce production as well? I'm just asking relative to your guidance of comparable volumes in the fourth quarter.

Devin Stockfish: Yes. I mean, so OSB, just like lumber, it's something that we're going to continue to watch and monitor. We'll adjust as necessary. Most of the same considerations that I talked about earlier with respect to our decisions on lumber capacity are equally applicable. I will say as we mentioned with lumber, from a cost curve standpoint, we're in a pretty good spot. And so you know, that certainly plays into our consideration there. But you know, like lumber, we're gonna continue to watch that, and we'll make adjustments if necessary.

Hongliang Zhang: Great. Thank you.

Devin Stockfish: Yep. Thank you.

Operator: Our final question is from Michael Roxland with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Roxland: Yes. Thank you, Devin, Davey, Andy for taking my questions. One the first one I have is Devin, you mentioned that there are some items that you consider as an integrated producer in terms of running lumber. That smaller nonintegrated producers don't have to consider. Any way to expand on what factors you're referencing?

Devin Stockfish: Yeah. I mean, so there are a few things. Right? So we can adjust log flow to our mills to make sure they're getting the optimal log mix to maximize profitability. You can take a little bit more risk on log supply because you know you have the full power of the Timberlands business. If you know, you have a rain event or a weather event and you start to lose inventory, you can flex that very quickly. I would say just in general, the planning on ultimate product mix coming out of the lumber mill.

When you work closely with your Timberlands business, you can get that dialed in, to make sure that you're optimizing the mix to maximize profit. So there are a bunch of planning things that you can do when those two businesses are working together to really maximize profitability across market cycles. It's always important, but I would say, particularly in the environment that we're in today where every dollar counts. And so our teams, as you can imagine, are working together every single day to make sure that we're maximizing the profitability across the portfolio. And, Mike, I would just add. I mean, those are a lot of the things we can do from a day-to-day operational perspective.

But, you know, when you think medium-term, longer-term, some of the larger-scale strategic things we can do, like, putting a timber strand facility in a place that's very advantageous for a Timberlands business, that's another huge advantage that we can drive with that integrated portfolio.

Michael Roxland: Got it. And then this one, know we're running over here, but just one quick, my second question. In terms of Natural Climate Solutions, any concerns over is it the government cutting funding I know you spoke about this in past calls, but obviously the government from the get-go has been aggressive with wind. From the outset, it's become more it seems to have become more aggressive on solar. Any concerns about, you know, government and maybe restricting federal funding for these types of projects?

Devin Stockfish: You know, at a high level, I'm not particularly concerned about that. You know, certainly, some of the things that came out of the big beautiful bill did impact particularly on the renewable side. I do think for our partners, you know, we align with more sophisticated larger partners who, to a large extent, saw this coming. And so their pipeline feels pretty good. So I don't think it's gonna have any meaningful impact over the next several years. There may be an air pocket when you get towards the end of the decade on some of these renewable projects, but these are typically long-term.

And I would just say, you know, CCS with the 45 q tax incentive, that did make it through the bill. And overall, even though the rhetoric certainly has changed in this current environment, behind closed doors, you know, most big company management teams understand this is a long-term issue that they're gonna have to address. And so I haven't really seen a meaningful drop-off in the level of interest in these solutions even in this current environment.

Michael Roxland: Thank you very much.

Devin Stockfish: Thank you.

Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Devin Stockfish for closing comments.

Devin Stockfish: Alright. Well, thank you, everyone, for joining us today. Thank you for your interest in Weyerhaeuser, and we look forward to seeing you at our Investor Day in December. Take care.

Operator: This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. And we thank you for your participation.