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DATE
Thursday, February 5, 2026 at 10:30 a.m. ET
CALL PARTICIPANTS
- Chairman & Chief Executive Officer — Michael L. Baur
- Senior Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer — Stephen T. Jones
TAKEAWAYS
- Net Sales Growth -- Net sales rose 3% year over year in both Specialty Technology Solutions and Intelisys and Advisory segments.
- Specialty Technology Solutions Segment -- Segment net sales expanded 3% year over year and 4% quarter over quarter; gross profit climbed 1% year over year, with recurring gross profit at approximately 18% due to Advantix and DataZoom acquisitions.
- Specialty Technology Solutions Profitability -- Adjusted EBITDA margin was 2.8%, negatively impacted by roughly 60 basis points from higher period expenses, including freight and customer-specific bad debt reserve.
- Gross Profit -- Consolidated gross profit increased 1% year over year; gross profit margins were reduced by about 30 basis points from elevated period expenses in the Specialty segment.
- Intelisys and Advisory Segment -- Segment net sales rose 3% year over year; gross profit up 3% year over year; adjusted EBITDA margin reached 41% for the period; annual net billings increased to approximately $2.85 billion.
- Free Cash Flow -- The company reported strong free cash flow and maintained its full-year expectation of at least $80 million.
- Balance Sheet and Leverage -- Ended the quarter with approximately $83 million in cash and a net debt leverage ratio near zero on a trailing twelve-month adjusted EBITDA basis.
- Share Repurchases -- Repurchased $18 million of shares during the quarter, with $179 million remaining under authorization; $40 million of shares were repurchased in the first half of the fiscal year.
- Updated Guidance -- Full-year revenue is now projected at $3.0 billion to $3.1 billion, with adjusted EBITDA between $140 million and $150 million.
- Strategic Initiative -- Launched a unified Converge communication sales team combining ScanSource and Intelisys offerings, aimed at capitalizing on the convergence of hardware, cloud, and customer experience technologies.
- Acquisition Impact -- Recent acquisitions, including Advantix and DataZoom, contributed positively to channel capabilities and recurring revenue streams.
- Brazil Operations -- Organic revenue declined 9% in Brazil, attributed to challenging market conditions and previous loss of a key supplier.
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RISKS
- Gross profit and EBITDA margins declined sequentially due to unexpected period expenses, primarily freight costs and customer-specific bad debt in the Specialty Technology Solutions segment.
- Growth in Specialty Technology Solutions was slower than anticipated, partly because "large deals get broken up into smaller pieces" and delayed invoicing, which management states has negatively influenced short-term results.
- The Brazil business experienced a 9% organic revenue decline; higher-margin profitability from this region is not contributing as previously, which management noted is "certainly not helping your gross profit line either."
- Ongoing industry-wide memory supply and pricing issues present visibility challenges, though not currently reflected in guidance.
SUMMARY
Management announced a new Converge communication sales team initiative, integrating hardware and cloud product sales to improve partner alignment and expand addressable market opportunities. New order growth in the Intelisys and Advisory segment is outpacing billings, indicating investments made are intended to translate into future revenue over a typical one-year conversion cycle. Updated full-year guidance reflects lowered expectations for both revenue and adjusted EBITDA, primarily due to a slowdown in large deal execution and heightened period expenses. Brazil's segment remains pressured, with 9% organic revenue contraction tied to difficult market conditions and prior supplier loss, which has direct impact due to its historically higher profitability contribution.
- Management signaled that full-year financial performance now relies on the anticipated resumption of large deal activity in the second half, with "implicit in our adjusted guidance is that we do need the large deals to resume."
- Stephen T. Jones reported closing a new five-year credit facility to support strategic initiatives and capital priorities.
- The company continues to prioritize growing gross profit contributions from recurring revenue streams, as evidenced by segment performance and acquisition strategy.
- Profitability targets remain aligned with three-year strategic goals, despite recalibrated near-term guidance and operational headwinds cited during the call.
INDUSTRY GLOSSARY
- UCaaS: Unified Communications as a Service—a cloud-delivered unified communications model integrating voice, messaging, video, and collaboration.
- CX: Customer Experience—technologies and platforms designed to manage and improve end-to-end customer interactions.
- TSD: Technology Solutions Distributor—a specialized distributor focusing on value-added channel solutions such as those provided via Intelisys.
- End-user billings: The total billed value of technology solutions delivered to final customers, a leading indicator of market growth in channel-based distribution models.
Full Conference Call Transcript
Michael L. Baur: Thanks, Mary, and thanks, everyone, for joining us today. In the second quarter, we generated strong free cash flow and delivered net sales and gross profit growth in both segments. However, our profitability was negatively impacted due to some unexpected expenses contained in the quarter. This resulted in declines in both gross profit and EBITDA margins compared to our very strong first quarter. In Q2, we had organic net sales growth for both segments, though slower than expected for our Specialty Technology Solutions segment. Today, we're excited to announce the launching of a new converged communication sales team at ScanSource, Inc.
This communications team unifies the ScanSource communications products and the Intelisys products and services to fully embrace the accelerating convergence of hardware, cloud, and customer experience technologies. We believe end users are embracing cloud-based UCaaS and CX platforms, and this is a growth opportunity for our channel partners. We're bringing together the expertise of our people to form one unified sales team. A team with deep knowledge of communications products and Intelisys cloud-based CX solutions. By giving this one team responsibility for both the hardware and recurring cloud business for these partners, we are strengthening partner alignment, expanding our share of wallet, and positioning ScanSource, Inc. at the center of this converging ecosystem.
In our Intelisys and advisory segment, our investment strategy is driving growth and momentum in new orders. We make these investments ahead of the revenue understanding that it typically takes about a year for new orders to convert into billings. As a result, we're seeing our new orders increase at a faster rate than our current revenue from billings. New investments for Intelisys include building out our new Converge communication sales team, which is designed to further accelerate growth and capture new end-user solution opportunities. As we move ahead, our strategy centers on helping our channel partners deliver innovative converged solutions driving both organic net sales and free cash flow through solid execution of our strategic plan.
Our team is focused on profitable growth, executing our strategy, and making progress toward our three-year strategic goals. I'll now turn the call over to Steve to take you through our financial results and outlook for fiscal year 2026.
Stephen T. Jones: Thanks, Mike. Q2 net sales grew 3% year over year in both segments. And gross profits increased 1% year over year. Profits for the quarter were negatively impacted by some higher period expenses in our Specialty Technology Solutions segment impacting both COGS and SG&A. We delivered strong free cash flow in the quarter and closed on a new five-year credit facility that will support our strategic objectives and capital priorities. Turning to our segments, I'll start with our Specialty Technology Solutions segment. Net sales increased 3% year over year and 4% quarter over quarter. Gross profits increased 1% year over year. Higher period expenses, including freight cost and mix, impacted gross profit margins by approximately 30 basis points.
Excluding these costs, gross profit growth would have been in line with the revenue growth for the segment. The percent of gross profit from recurring revenues grew to approximately 18% for the segment and includes positive contributions from the acquisition of Advantix and DataZoom. The Specialty Technology Solutions segment adjusted EBITDA margin was 2.8%. For the quarter, the impact on segment adjusted EBITDA margin from higher period expenses is approximately 60 basis points. In our Intelisys and Advisory segment, net sales increased 3% year over year, in line with our expectations. Annual net billings increased to approximately $2.85 billion. Gross profits increased 3% year over year, while adjusted EBITDA margin for the segment was 41%.
Going a bit deeper on our balance sheet and cash flows. We ended Q2 with approximately $83 million in cash and a net debt leverage ratio of approximately zero on a trailing twelve-month adjusted EBITDA basis. Adjusted ROIC was 11.9% for the quarter and 13.3% for the year. Share repurchases for the quarter totaled $18 million and we have $179 million remaining under our share repurchase authorization. We continue to have a strong balance sheet and are well-positioned to execute our strategic priorities and achieve our three-year goals. Our three-year goals focus on growing the company's gross profit contributions from recurring streams, expanding our profitability, delivering strong free cash flow, and disciplined capital deployment.
You can find our goals in the infographic and our investor presentation in the investors section of our website. We are pleased with the contribution from our acquisitions, including the most recent acquisition of DataZoom and what they bring to our channel capabilities and our strategic plan. We continue to explore acquisition opportunities that could expand our capabilities and help us drive additional value across our partner ecosystem. Our capital allocation priorities also include continued share repurchases. We are confident in our business model and are optimistic for growth in the second half of our fiscal year.
For the first half of our fiscal year, our gross profit margin was close to 14%, and our adjusted EBITDA margin was over 4.6%. We are updating our full-year projections based on our first-half performance. We now believe that full-year revenue will be in the range of $3 billion to $3.1 billion and adjusted EBITDA will be in the range of between $140 million and $150 million. For annual free cash flow, we maintain our expectations of at least $80 million. Our expectations include an increase in the second half of large deals, as well as investment in our Intelisys and Advisory segment to drive new order growth. We'll now open it up for questions.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or comment at this time, please press 11 on your telephone keypad. If your question has been answered or you wish to remove yourself from the queue, simply press the pound key. I'm sorry. Simply press 11 again. Again, if you have a question or comment, please press 11 on your telephone keypad. Our first question or comment comes from the line of Gregory John Burns from Sidoti. Mr. Burns, your line is open.
Gregory John Burns: Morning. Could you just give us a little bit more color maybe on the period cost that you highlighted and, you know, whether or not you expect that to continue into the second half of the year, or are they just gonna remain kind of localized into this quarter?
Stephen T. Jones: Hi. Good morning, Greg. This is Steve. I'll take that question. Yeah. You know, in our 10-Q, we outlined some of the costs both in our COGS and in our SG&A. You know, in the COGS piece of it, it's really around mix and freight expense in the quarter. That pushed our margins down. We also called out some bad debt expense driven by a customer-specific reserve that we took. And we closely manage our receivables, and we have a very healthy receivables portfolio. So when we look at that, we do think that's more period-related.
Gregory John Burns: Okay. And I guess you mentioned also a little bit slower than expected growth in the technology segment. Could you just maybe give us a little bit more color on where specifically the lower growth was coming from or, you know, maybe some detail around product categories that might be helpful for us to better understand the dynamics?
Michael L. Baur: Hey, Greg. Good morning. It's Mike. I think what I would say about that is the large deals are really part of the story here. And maybe that's where I'll talk about it. We saw large deals get broken up into smaller pieces. And so as they're rolling out, they're not happening normally. And we saw this even last quarter. And so I believe that's the real story here is that we've got a slowdown in large deals that are being invoiced in the quarter. And we see that by the way, we see that as part of the challenge for the hardware business as we look out.
And implicit in our adjusted guidance is that we do need the large deals to resume. And we believe that will happen.
Gregory John Burns: Okay. Is there any specific reason why you have more confidence in that? Are you seeing anything specifically? Anything you're hearing from your customers?
Michael L. Baur: Well, it is based on information. We just had last week, our sales kickoff for our internal specialty sales teams. So we spent a lot of time talking to our sales teams about what they're hearing from partners, from suppliers. So, yeah, it's based on surveys of our partner community. And what they believe as they look at their calendar year. And many of these partners, as we all know, you know, they don't have large, long pipelines. So they generally have very good shorter-term information. And we believe that the information we're getting suggests the large deals will continue to happen.
But, again, they may be broken up over the quarter, so this is really more of a for the year, we feel good about it. Q2, we had expected more than we actually booked.
Gregory John Burns: Okay. Alright. Great. Thank you.
Operator: Yep. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Keith Michael Housum from Northcoast Research. Mr. Housum, your line is now open.
Keith Michael Housum: Great. Thank you. Can you guys hear me okay?
Michael L. Baur: Keith, we got you.
Keith Michael Housum: Okay. Great. Great. I appreciate it. Hey. Mike. I understand the memory issue that's affecting the wireless technology world. On the price side, it may not impact you guys so much because you guys know, pretty much pass through the prices. But into what are you hearing from the customers in terms of are you seeing prices increasing now? And, you know, any concerns that you have that perhaps should be some of the supply shortage at some point through not only the second half of your fiscal year, but throughout all 2026.
Michael L. Baur: Yeah. Good morning, Keith. We talked about that for sure is the suppliers are indicating that the memory issue will affect them. They don't know, you know, what's the near-term impact versus long-term. And some of it is a pricing issue, as you know, and some of it potentially could be a shortage issue. Right? And since so many technology companies use the same memory sources, I think that'll be a challenge for some of our suppliers. So we certainly think that we're gonna be in the same position as everyone else in the channel to manage through this. But right now, there's just a lack of visibility as to the near-term impact.
So we've adjusted our guidance knowing what we know today about the potential for that to happen. And right now, it's not significant in our guidance. Okay?
Keith Michael Housum: Okay. Appreciate that. I'm gonna ask you to look into your crystal ball a little bit here as you talk about the Intelisys business. You guys have been restructuring that business now for a few quarters. Are we thinking the 2026, the calendar year, we should see Intelisys sales start to accelerate from the current levels?
Michael L. Baur: Well, I would say this, Keith. We probably didn't restructure as much as we added additional sales capabilities. That's the way I would frame it. And what we expected from our sales teams when we brought on Ken Mills, which will be over a year and a half ago now. So for sure, we believe we had to get more aggressive at acquiring new customers and focusing on new orders and not just at the existing book of business that many of our partners had. And I think part of it too is we went through a couple of years ago an aging of the Intelisys partner community.
We had many of the partners, as you recall, that were selling their books of business, that were selling their agency, and we kinda saw the peak of that, I believe, a year and a half ago and I believe that has diminished to some extent. And so I believe even the partners that have been around a long time are now focused more on new orders. And I believe the new order growth that we referenced that is growing faster than our billings is indicative of what we'll see next year. Already in '26, we're benefiting from what Ken put in place a year ago. And I think that's why we're starting to see momentum.
And I expect it will continue to grow at a faster rate than new orders. Yes.
Keith Michael Housum: Okay. And in Brazil, I see it was down 9% organic this quarter. Anything new happening there? I know, you a year or two ago, we lost Broadcom, but I was kind of surprised by how much that declined year over year.
Michael L. Baur: Yeah. I don't think there's anything specific we can call out, but certainly, we wish that market would recover. It's a market condition that we're in with all the other distributors in Brazil. So from a market perspective, we feel like our management team is managing and pulling the levers that are under their control. Whether that's managing expenses or whether that's managing inventories and bringing on new suppliers to replace the supplier that we lost. So I think the management team is operating at a very high level. But it's a challenging market right now for the distribution segment in Brazil.
Keith Michael Housum: Yeah. That's a higher than company average gross profits, correct, in Brazil?
Michael L. Baur: Yes. That's right. And I would say, historically, don't know how much we talked about it, Steve, but it would drop to the bottom line as well. It would be a higher profitability, Steve.
Stephen T. Jones: Yeah. That's right, Keith. This is Steve. I would say that a lot of their GP flows through. They manage cost very well, and a lot of that does flow through.
Keith Michael Housum: That's certainly not helping your gross profit line either.
Michael L. Baur: That's right. Correct.
Keith Michael Housum: Okay. And then maybe help me understand a little bit more in terms of the launch that you did today in terms of one communications team. Perhaps can you describe how it was operating previously and how you how that's gonna be different going forward?
Michael L. Baur: Yeah. Sure. So we've been trying to figure this out for a while as to how do we have a partner. Let's say it's a traditional communications partner, or it might be a Mitel partner, Keith, or ShoreTel or Avaya, any of our communications heavy partners that were traditionally selling premise-based equipment and maybe not selling cloud yet or maybe they're selling cloud. But the sales team at ScanSource, Inc. under specialty was only selling on the hardware. And so if a Mitel partner wanted to buy some connectivity products or services or solutions, the ScanSource, Inc. specialty seller would have to pass that on as a lead to someone on the Intelisys team.
So now we're gonna have one team that can service that partner that will sell the Intelisys products and the specialty hardware products to the same partner. We're gonna make it much easier for the partner. It's also gonna give our communication hardware sellers a lot more to sell to their partners. So I think the partner community will love this idea. We're gonna enable them, gonna make it easier, we believe this is gonna create new solutions from suppliers that will see this as a very attractive way to reach more of the VAR community.
Keith Michael Housum: Okay. How are we gonna see that in the income statement going forward? Are you gonna move some of the communications down to the Intelisys segment?
Stephen T. Jones: No. Hey, Keith. This is Steve. Now we'll wind up with the same reporting in our segment. That's a segment reporting discussion. This is more of a management alignment and a go-to-market discussion.
Michael L. Baur: Yes. Because, again, let me finish that part of the description. I left out the there'll be Intelisys employees that will be part of this virtual team, and they will sell hardware now. And so if you've got an Intelisys agent that's working with an Intelisys salesperson that reports into the Intelisys management team, they'll now have the right model so they can sell hardware. Whereas in the past, the Intelisys employee here at ScanSource, Inc. would flip that lead, the hardware, over to the hardware guys. And they just wasn't working. There was not the right incentives and opportunities. So that's what's changing.
Keith Michael Housum: Okay. Got it. Thanks, guys. Good luck.
Michael L. Baur: Yeah. Thank you. Thanks, Keith.
Operator: Our next question or comment comes from the line of Guy Drummond Hardwick from Barclays. Your line is open.
Guy Drummond Hardwick: Wondering how much of the lowering of guidance is the absence of large deals versus the potential shortages of product that you mentioned?
Michael L. Baur: Hey, Guy. It's Mike. Yeah. I think our view right now, I think this is what I was trying to say earlier, is our guidance is relative to large deals, not to shortages. So we're not in our guidance indicating that there's going to be a shortage impact on our guidance. That's not what we're suggesting today.
Guy Drummond Hardwick: Okay. And just as a follow-up, could you just kind of update us on the kind of competitive environment in the TSD market? I mean, look. Looks like the headcount additions of your competitors have already slowed quite sharply, and it's pretty much flat or down for the last six months. So just wondering have things improved? Have you noticed any improvements in terms of the market or not yet?
Michael L. Baur: Well, I think the overall TSD space is very competitive and has been, as you know, for a while. We believe that there have been some changes in their approach to how they're gonna grow their business organically. Because we know that from a competitive standpoint, there's been a lot of acquisitive activity from the TSDs. And you've not seen that, of course, from Intelisys, from ScanSource, Inc. So we believe that has come to a has slowed down. And now the yeah. I think the opportunity and the pressure on all the TSDs to grow organically.
That's why you hear us talking about new order growth and that's what we believe is the right metric because that will show that we can obviously, in some cases, take market share from the other TSDs, and that's reflected in the new order growth. But it also it also talks about improving the value proposition for the TSD both in the eyes of the partner, who's the seller, but also in the eyes of the suppliers. Because the suppliers they need organic growth to happen, not just share shift among the TSDs. So we're very focused on organic growth.
And we believe that you will see a change in the market share between all the TSDs over the next year as we execute on our strategy.
Guy Drummond Hardwick: Thank you.
Michael L. Baur: You bet.
Operator: Again, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or comment at this time, please press 11 on your telephone keypad. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Adam Tyler Tindle from Raymond James. Mr. Tindle, your line is open.
Adam Tyler Tindle: Mike, just wanted to take a step back. I know we've gone through a lot of detail in this call, but if we take a step back and think we're two quarters into the fiscal year now, you're reducing guidance. If you were to rewind to your initial fiscal 2026 plan, what would be, you know, sort of the biggest variance areas versus your expectations entering this year? I hear on the large deals. I just wanna push back. I mean, we would think that would be just kind of more of a timing issue throughout the course of the year.
So if you were to kinda, you know, sit yourself back in the seat when you were entering this year, versus now? What are kind of the key areas that maybe have been a little bit disappointing relative to your expectations that caused the reduction in guidance?
Michael L. Baur: Yeah. Yeah. Good morning, Adam. Well, let me go back to something I used to say a lot is that our business is very hard to forecast. Orders come in today. They go out today. This is in the specialty business, which is where the challenge has been. So no news there that's how that business has always worked. Very difficult to forecast what we're gonna do beyond today. We get orders in today. We ship today. Right? We don't work off of a backlog traditionally. We get information on large deals that will happen there's no guarantees when they'll actually ship.
So if I go back to and to answer your question directly, Adam, if I go back and remember what we were saying back in August, we were saying, like the year before, this is gonna be a second half loaded year. That we believe going and give an annual guidance is again, not something that I enjoy doing, but we did. Because we have for the last few years. And so give an annual guidance back in August with the visibility I have today, I would have said, well, we probably should have forecasted the first half a little lower. Expecting the second half to be bigger.
And what we're trying to say now is second half is gonna show growth. And the second in this guidance that you'll see, like, at the midpoint, that's gonna show that we're gonna have a modest growth. Year over year for the second half. For the year, that's not a great number, but if we can, in the second half, show growth, we believe we'll then build momentum going into '27. And that's the way we've always built our business.
Adam Tyler Tindle: Yep. I understand. Trust me. We I think we can fully empathize with the difficulty in forecasting. I think you're telling my boss that I need a raise.
Michael L. Baur: Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.
Adam Tyler Tindle: Steve, I wanted to ask on the magnitude of the cut. I mean, I think it makes a lot of sense for investors to kinda take the medicine now and, you know, rather than set expectations to climb back for the year, let's just go ahead and reduce. But on the magnitude, understand you don't guide, you know, on a quarterly basis necessarily, but you know, relative to, I think, a lot of our expectations in the quarter this guidance was reduced by kinda more than that annualized miss quote unquote. How did you think about, you know, the magnitude of the guidance reduction? And I also noticed that you've I think you maintained free cash flow.
So maybe touch on how you're able to do that.
Stephen T. Jones: Yeah. Good morning, Adam. Yeah. A couple of things. When we look at the second half, we look at it a couple of ways. Right? We're trying to take the information that we have from our customer base, what they're working on, and then we put that against really, if you look back over our years, and you look at first half versus second half, performance, and I'm thinking about the last two years, we've been kinda 49, 51, fifty. So that's how we get confidence in this the second half looks a whole lot like the first half, a little bit of growth that we see coming because, again, we're thinking large deals are going to have to return.
This to your point before, it's been more of a push out than it is a loss. And so that's what's really guiding our expectations. On the free cash flow, I think this comes back to the way we've changed our business model. And I confidence we have in our business model. This is what should happen if we're growing in that low single digits rate. So we have a lot of confidence in our team's ability to deliver that at least $80 million in free cash flow, which has a really good cash yield for us.
Adam Tyler Tindle: Yep. That makes sense. And you know I'm gonna ask about capital allocation following that question, of course. Mike, I mean, you know, obviously, you know, one day is not necessarily a trend, but the stock's now hovering below book value. You know, does this so, you know, obviously, you're gonna maintain free cash flow for the year, as Steve just mentioned, so you have some, you know, cash to work with. How are you thinking about priorities? Around capital allocation? And does this, you know, perhaps elevate share repurchase?
Michael L. Baur: I think what we'd like to do as a management team and at our board level is talk about what are we trying to do on a three-year basis. And our three-year goals, we believe, are still intact. We said that in our call. And we believe if you look at our three-year goals, we believe we can have growth. And from a gross profit perspective, which is where we've been saying we gotta focus on gross profit growth. To do that, we have to have some top-line help. There's no doubt about it. And we believe that for us, there's a combination of organic and inorganic that needs to happen on the growth side.
At the same time, as we've said, I believe we said our share repurchase authorization is still $179 million. And in the first half of this year, we bought about $40 million in shares, Steve. Is that right?
Stephen T. Jones: Right.
Michael L. Baur: So we believe that's indicative of our strategy, that our strategy hasn't changed. This quarter. We hope our investors don't believe our strategy has changed. We hate to deliver news that's not what we expected. But, again, if we think about this is a quarter, this isn't the year, and we want to be fair, though, to everyone about our expectations for the second half, and make sure that we're not oversteering. We believe we're being we have a strong history of doing our best to give our investors an accurate, clear view of what we know today. But our goal is let's keep our three-year strategic goals in mind. We believe those are very strong.
And, again, as we look at the second half, based on our annual guidance that we've adjusted to, that's still a very strong EBITDA margin for the year. That'll come in consistent with what we're doing from a three-year goal perspective. And I think that's the important part. Just look at the metrics that we'll still deliver. This is a very strong company. Excellent balance sheet, strong profitability.
Adam Tyler Tindle: Got it. I'm gonna do one more. I think I might be last in the queue. So on Intelisys, I did wanna ask Mike. The dynamic of, I think, billings lagging new orders was something that sounded a little bit newer. I just wanted you to, you know, maybe double click and help explain that dynamic. I mean, you've been operating in Intelisys for many years now. I could have missed it, but I don't recall hearing that dynamic much. Over the past number of years. So maybe just kinda double click on what that was and what changed. To drive that.
Steve, is there any way to and this is probably a difficult one, but to quantify that, the impact that's having and maybe when that, like, catches up, how, you know, how we think about it in the financial statements.
Michael L. Baur: Well, the reason we started talking about new order growth was I'm a think back now. It's probably three years ago, Adam, that we started talking about this margin pressure, if you recall. Margin pressure that was happening at Intelisys and in the TSD community as all the other TSDs started bringing in new ownership PE investments. And there was a market share land grab, which drove margins down for Intelisys, which drove down our revenue growth. Right? And we would start talking as you know about our revenues, and we talked about end-user billings. And, generally, the end-user billings were really, at the end of the day, a great metric for is this market growing.
Because we would have margin pressure that in a year or a quarter would reduce our growth because of just margin compression. But it looked like the TAM was slowing down. The opportunity was slowing down. That wasn't the case. So we decided a year ago that we needed to start being able to talk about new orders. If we can have a and we decided not to give a number because we're in a competitive market against other private companies. So we believe new orders growth faster than our revenues is indicative of what will come.
And so this delay that happens because if we close an order today, it may not get billed for six to twelve months from now, maybe even fifteen months. And so it's just focused, Adam, on new orders that you won't see in the quarter that are indicative of future revenues. And that's why this pivot to that is important that we communicate it.
Stephen T. Jones: Yeah. Adam, this is Steve. I'll take the second half of that question. The impossible one to answer. Right? Is how do we know? Well, we believe, and I think the message to our investors is as we invest, we're looking for the right ROI. On those investments. So if you're hearing us continue to invest in Intelisys and in that order growth, we believe that there's a good ROI on that because this all has to hold together with our three-year goals and the goals that we've laid out and we're committed to. That's the best way to think about is this are we still confident that we're continuing to accelerate the new order growth?
If we're still investing in there, our expectation is it's a good ROI. And we continue to do it.
Adam Tyler Tindle: Very helpful. Thanks. Look forward to seeing you next month at our conference.
Michael L. Baur: Yeah. Thanks, Adam.
Operator: Thank you. I'm showing no additional questions in the queue at this time. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Stephen T. Jones for any closing remarks.
Stephen T. Jones: Yeah. Thank you, and thank you for joining us today. We expect to hold our next conference call to discuss March 31 quarterly results on Thursday, May 7, 2026, at approximately 10:30 AM.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a wonderful day.