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DATE
Oct. 28, 2024 at 4:45 p.m. ET
CALL PARTICIPANTS
- Chief Executive Officer — Jim Scholhamer
- Chief Financial Officer — Sheri Savage
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RISKS
- CFO Sheri Savage stated, "Our tax-rate increased from 24.7% last quarter to 27.1% this quarter," driven by a mix of earnings from higher tax jurisdictions.
- Foreign exchange headwinds, "primarily related to the Malaysian ringgit," negatively impacted EPS by $0.06 per share this fiscal quarter.
- Operating cash flow declined to $14.9 million from $23.2 million, due to timing of collections and vendor payments.
TAKEAWAYS
- Total revenue -- $540.4 million, up from $516.1 million in the prior fiscal quarter, driven by customer demand related to AI infrastructure, and continued China market growth.
- Products revenue -- $479 million, rising from $452.7 million quarter over quarter, indicating broadening demand from advanced packaging and CMP for AI chips.
- Services revenue -- $61.4 million, down from $63.4 million the previous fiscal quarter, offset by stronger product revenue.
- Total gross margin -- 17.8%, a slight increase from 17.7% in the prior fiscal quarter.
- Products gross margin -- 16.1% versus 15.6% last fiscal quarter; Services gross margin -- 30.5% compared to 32.7% in the fiscal second quarter.
- Operating expense -- $56.5 million, up from $55.8 million, but as a percentage of revenue declined to 10.5% from 10.8%.
- Total operating margin -- 7.3%, increasing from 6.9% in the previous fiscal quarter; Products operating margin -- 7% from 6.2%; Services operating margin -- 10.1% versus 11.8% in the fiscal second quarter.
- Effective tax rate -- 27.1% for the fiscal quarter, higher than 24.7% last fiscal quarter; year-to-date tax rate at 24.3%, with mix weighted to higher tax jurisdictions.
- Net income -- $15.9 million, up from $14.4 million quarter over quarter, resulting in EPS of $0.35 versus $0.32.
- Foreign exchange impact -- CFO Sheri Savage said, "During the quarter, we experienced some foreign exchange headwinds, primarily related to the Malaysian ringgit that negatively impacted EPS by $0.06 per share."
- Cash and equivalents -- $318.2 million, down slightly from $319.5 million in the fiscal second quarter.
- Operating cash flow -- $14.9 million, compared to $23.2 million last fiscal quarter, attributed to collection and payment timing.
- Fiscal fourth quarter revenue guidance -- Range of $535 million to $585 million.
- Fiscal fourth quarter EPS guidance -- $0.34 to $0.54.
- Direct China revenue -- CEO Jim Scholhamer said, "I think we did about $50 million something, $52 million, $55 million, this quarter from China direct, right. So I'm talking about like what we sell directly to our Chinese OEMs."
- Malaysia facility -- CEO Jim Scholhamer stated, "revenue has increased nearly 150% since this time last year."
- CMP segment growth -- Scholhamer stated, "we started to see CMP business increase...starting to see companies invest in CMP to kind of take their yield up, especially in the AI area."
- WFE industry growth expectation -- Scholhamer said, "we continue to look at like 14% -- 10% to 14%" for WFE growth in 2025, but expects the company to outperform this range.
SUMMARY
The call emphasized Ultra Clean Holdings (UCTT +0.88%)'s ability to meet strong demand from AI-related processes and sustained direct sales growth to Chinese OEM customers during the fiscal third quarter ended Sept. 27, 2024. Management highlighted significant revenue expansion at the Malaysia facility, which contributed nearly 150% year-over-year growth, diversifying production and enhancing scale economics. The company’s broadened footprint in the chemical mechanical planarization (CMP) segment provides new opportunities aligned with increased investment in advanced chip yield optimization. Management projects continued high levels of China-market demand into 2025, underpinned by direct customer engagement and ongoing regional fab expansion. New product introductions and global site expansion were not explicitly discussed, maintaining strategic focus on operational leverage in core semiconductor segments.
- Revenue guidance for the next fiscal quarter signals management's expectation for demand stability or moderate growth, despite recent revenue surges.
- Guided EPS outlook reflects margin sensitivity to both sales mix and region-specific cost factors in a variable market environment.
- The company believes it is "on-track to be up over 20%" in revenue growth for the full year, anticipating outperformance relative to major customers and peers.
INDUSTRY GLOSSARY
- CMP (Chemical Mechanical Planarization): A semiconductor process that polishes wafer surfaces using both chemical and mechanical forces, enabling improved chip yield and structure for advanced nodes.
- WFE (Wafer Fabrication Equipment): Capital equipment used in the manufacturing of semiconductor wafers, critical for chip production capacity and technology upgrades.
- OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer): Companies that produce equipment and systems used in the semiconductor fabrication process, often serving as direct customers for component and subsystem suppliers.
Full Conference Call Transcript
Jim Scholhamer: Thank you, Rhonda. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining our call this afternoon. I will start with a high level summary of our financial and operating results for the third quarter and share our thoughts on the broader industry trends we are seeing. After that, I'll turn the call over to Sheri for more detailed financial review before opening up the call for questions. During the third quarter, an increase in equipment spend by our customers supporting the expansion of AI infrastructure build out and demand from the domestic China market resulted in revenue coming in at the high end of our guided range.
Using the mid-point of our Q4 guidance and analyst consensus for our peer group, UCT revenue is on-track to be up over 20% this year over last year, surpassing that of our largest customers. In addition to the uptick in equipment sales for advanced packaging applications that we saw over the past several quarters, third quarter demand broadened to include other AI related processes such as Chemical mechanical planarization or CMP, specifically for the large AI chips. Because UCT has such a diverse and flexible menu of solutions, customers are partnering with us to accelerate their leading edge technology roadmaps. Turning to China, revenue from our Shanghai manufacturing facility supporting local Chinese OEMs remained elevated.
Recent conversations with local customers and our expectation that regional fabs will continue to expand and new ones will come online, supported by local government investments, leads us to believe that this will -- higher level of spend will continue into 2025. We will continue to meet regularly with our local Chinese customers and watch for any change in sentiment or spending patterns that could alter our opinion. Last quarter, I mentioned some of the metrics we are tracking that could point towards a broader industry recovery and they continue to improve.
Inventories have mostly realigned, shipments of high performance computing chips have increased, data center spending is very robust, memory is being actively managed to keep supply and demand balanced and fabs are reporting improved utilization rates. In fact, the world's largest chipmaker recently announced that they "continue to observe extremely healthy AI related demand through the second half of 2024, leading to increased capacity utilization rates for leading edge process technologies with signs of acceleration into next year and beyond". UCT builds a diversified line of products for the industry that extends our reach far beyond gas and fluid delivery solutions. If you could walk through a fab, you will see thousands of our parts, components and modules.
UCT indirectly touches nearly every semiconductor chip that goes into every smartphone, smart car, data center and device that uses artificial intelligence today. We have a roadmap built to last and leverage our competitive advantage by offering a high value differentiated solutions across all end markets. Our state-of-the-art manufacturing technology, especially in Malaysia, where revenue has increased nearly 150% since this time last year is helping our customers reach greater economics of scale, especially at the leading edge. Semiconductor cycles are two pronged. They are technology driven and capacity driven. Strong investment in the technology phase of the cycle has been healthy this year and one of the reasons UCT has been able to meaningfully grow revenue.
The debut of AI enabled smartphones and laptops is here and a broad replacement cycle shouldn't be far behind. We remain very optimistic that we are in the early innings of an industry wide recovery. And as capacity investments begin to increase, we expect momentum to accelerate. UCT has withstood many cycles of varying lengths and has outperformed during every upturn. In summary, our long-term outlook for the semi industry remains very positive. We maintain our view that the global semiconductor market will exceed $1 trillion by 2030, driven by ballooning demands for integrated circuits and AI, digital economies and electrical vehicles.
To achieve this, investment in WFE will need to be in the $150 billion range, and we are ready with the products, services, capacity and efficiency to meet the major increases in demand, we see coming. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Sheri for our financial review. Sheri?
Sheri Savage: Thanks, Jim, and good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for joining us. In today's discussion, I will be referring to non-GAAP numbers only. As Jim mentioned, total revenue was up quarter-over-quarter due to increased demand from our customers relating to AI infrastructure build outs and continued strength from our domestic China market. Total revenue for the third quarter came in at $540.4 million compared to $516.1 million in the prior quarter. Revenue from products increased to $479 million from $452.7 million last quarter. Services revenue was $61.4 million compared to $63.4 million in Q2. Total gross margin for the third quarter was 17.8% compared to 17.7% last quarter. Products gross margin was 16.1% compared to 15.6%.
And services was 30.5% compared to 32.7% in Q2. Margins can be influenced by fluctuation in volume, mix and manufacturing region as well as material and transportation costs. So there will be variances quarter-to-quarter. Operating expense for the quarter was $56.5 million compared with $55.8 million in Q2. As a percentage of revenue, operating expense decreased to 10.5% from 10.8% in Q2. Total operating margin for the quarter increased to 7.3% from 6.9% in the second quarter. Margin from our Product division was 7% compared to 6.2% and services margin was 10.1% compared to 11.8% in the prior quarter.
The overall margin improvements were largely driven by improved product operating efficiency and effective management of operating expenses across both business units on a higher revenue. Our tax-rate increased from 24.7% last quarter to 27.1% this quarter, representing a year-to-date effective tax-rate of 24.3%. Our mix of earnings has been weighted to higher tax jurisdictions like China and the Czech Republic. And as a result, we now expect the tax-rate for 2024 to stay in the mid '20s. Based on 45.5 million shares outstanding, earnings per share for the quarter were $0.35. On net-income of $15.9 million compared to $0.32 on net-income of $14.4 million in the prior quarter due to higher revenue.
During the quarter, we experienced some foreign exchange headwinds, primarily related to the Malaysian ringgit that negatively impacted EPS by $0.06 per share. Turning to the balance sheet. Our cash-and-cash equivalents were $318.2 million compared to $319.5 million in Q2. Cash flow from operations was $14.9 million compared to $23.2 million last quarter, primarily due to timing of cash collections and vendor payments. For the fourth quarter, we project total revenue between $535 million and $585 million. We expect EPS in the range of $0.34 to $0.54. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to the operator for questions.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Charles Shi from Needham. Your line is now open.
Charles Shi: Hey, good afternoon, Jim and Sheri. The first question is about the China. What's the percentage of revenue coming from China in the third quarter? But maybe it's a related question I'll ask all together. When I look at the PowerPoint you posted on the website, that your revenue from LAM is up and the revenue from AMAT is actually -- probably down a little bit. So, is China the main contributor to the non-LAM, non-AMAT revenue growth in the third quarter? That's the first question. Thank you.
Jim Scholhamer: Yes. Hi, Charles. So yes, so, I think we did about $50 million something, $52 million, $55 million, this quarter from China direct, right. So I'm talking about like what we sell directly to our Chinese OEMs. And so, as you look at percentages from our different Applied and LAM, I can't read too much into that. It's just simply we're seeing some more strength from Chinese OEMs, but we're seeing also some strength from LAM and ASM and ASML and others.
So those percentages are going to move around a little bit, but I think when you look at that way, I think you're seeing the fact that we're continuing to see significant strength from our direct sales to Chinese equipment makers.
Charles Shi: Got it, $55 million from China direct. I just want to clarify.
Jim Scholhamer: Yes. And I mean just to give you like a reference, Charles, so in the past, we did like $10 million a quarter, maybe $20 million if we had a great quarter. So this has been continued strength. And I just actually met with the CEOs in China and they continue to think that's going to stay strong through the year and through next year as well.
Charles Shi: Got it. And obviously, the access for you guys to the Chinese semi-cap is pretty unique in the industry. Maybe I want to ask you, maybe this is a technology question, maybe it's a product question. You talked about the AI infrastructure build-out. We all know that you have -- your revenue is tied -- I mean, part of your revenue is tied to our LAMs, electro plating, which has done very well. They said it's more than double this year, strength may continue next year. But looks like this quarter, you were talking about some CMP related strength. Can you talk a little bit more about that?
First off, because we tend to associate your product more with the depth and edge, but what is the CMP exposure? That's number one. But number two is, why there is a CMP ramp related to AI infrastructure build-out? Is it that just going general with advanced nodes or there's something specific about CMP for the -- as you said, the largest AI chip manufacturing? That's the second question. Thank you.
Jim Scholhamer: Sure. Yes. I mean, as you just mentioned, I'll reiterate the wet bench electrochemistry strength that we've been seeing, for the interconnect business has continued to remain really strong out of our Czech Republic factory. But what we started to see this quarter and one of the reasons for our outperformance as well as we started to see CMP business increase. Now we have a really good position, we have a significantly high footprint in CMP. And CMP is very body on and off. But what we're seeing is chemical mechanical planarization is kind of something that people do to get the yields up in the chips that they're making.
So this is becoming where we're starting to see more investment in that space. And since we also -- like I said, we have a very diversified platform that we cover across many different types of equipment and technology. So we have a really solid position there and then we're starting to see companies invest in CMP to kind of take their yield up, especially in the AI area.
Charles Shi: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Edward Yang from Oppenheimer. Your line is now open.
Edward Yang: Hi, Jim. Congrats on great quarter. I wanted to dig a bit deeper into your demand outlook and you mentioned growing faster than your customers. And I wanted to understand, is this a function of customers outsourcing more and relying on partners like UCT, your win rates? Or are you exposed to right technology platforms? That is, your customers have such broad based end market exposure? Are you overweight or underweight any particular areas that would help you meaningfully grow faster?
Jim Scholhamer: Yes. Hi, Edward. So yes, we definitely -- as you start to see the market start to turn back and the industry start to bring up and we've seen this over the years, we typically outgrow the industry in the up years. So what happens is, you start to see our customers begin to outsource a bit more. So we have some of that. We also have gains in lithography that we've been exploiting. And also our new platform in Malaysia where customers want to take advantage of that low-cost region that we've been growing. So we're -- yes, we are starting to see our outperform in these areas from those basic strengths.
So I think those are like the main things. But if you were to look back through our history over the last 10-years, you will see that when the industry starts moving up a bit, we do experience higher level of outsourcing and we do experience a higher level of market share gain.
Edward Yang: And I just wanted to piggyback on Charles' question on China. You mentioned your quarterly revenue there was $55 billion and that is up triple-digits year-over-year, but it is down about $4.5 billion from the prior quarter. Is there any seasonality there or is that -- did you see any moderation or is it just kind of lumpiness within China that you're seeing from revenue change?
Jim Scholhamer: Yes, I mean -- So, yes, Edward, I can't go into details, but we had -- you have two main customers there and one is dealing with some internal issues on quality, not our issue and other one is growing faster. So we had -- it is lumpiness, but it's nothing to like to be concerned about the long term prospects.
Edward Yang: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Christian Schwab from Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Your line is now open.
Christian Schwab: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I mean, last quarter, you guys talked about seeing broader market improvement in the second half of '24 versus the first half of '25, which is obviously been correct. We also kind of talked about WFE being really strong on a year-over-year basis in '25, but I didn't really hear an update on that. We understand what your largest customer talked about seeing growth, but I think we kind of talked about percentages on the call last time. Do you have any update for us there?
Jim Scholhamer: Yes. I think we've been looking at -- and we continue to update that, Christian. So we continue to look at like 14% -- 10% to 14% and it all depends obviously on how the year ends in '24, right. So the baseline changes a little bit, but we are still very positive that the WFE is going to increase, whether it's up 10% or 12% or 14%, very difficult to say. We will do better than that in the next year.
But I think it's -- I think we need to see how '24 end before we could come out with like a really good estimate for '25, but we definitely believe '25 will be up and we believe we will be up more than that.
Christian Schwab: Great. No other questions. Thanks, guys.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Krish Sankar from TD Cowen. Your line is now open.
Robert Mertens: Hi, this is Robert Mertens on for Krish. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe just real quick to jump back on the domestic China strength that you're witnessing. Have you segmented out that before between if it's more foundry or memory based or broad based? And then also what sort of visibility do you have at customers within China? I know you are expecting it to still remain strong in the December quarter, but just sort of -- what sort of visibility and confidence you have heading into next year, would be helpful.
Jim Scholhamer: Yes. So hi, Robert. So, we have not segmented it out to the chip type. The -- mostly what we provide for them is deposition and etch modules, especially in the gas panel area, which was our -- obviously 45% of our business. And as I mentioned before, I just made the trip there. I just had dinner with the CEOs of those companies and they continue -- they're going to continue to gain market share. That's a clear thing. They are definitely over investing right now trying to get every piece of equipment they can.
Not every piece of the equipment is actually going out the door to their customers, but we basically from everything I can see and every discussion I've had with these customers is that 2025 is going to continue to be at the same level that we've been experiencing 2024. So that together with a broader market recovery at some point together with the AI strength that we're seeing in different parts of our diversified products we're very comfortable and confident that we're going to continue. As we guided up in Q4, we're going to continue to see things get better and better.
Robert Mertens: Great. Thank you. That's helpful. And then just one more if I may. In terms of the product margins, they've been doing well in the September quarter. Is that more to a mix or does just the sales volume have a bigger play into the puts and takes of margins on a quarterly basis?
Sheri Savage: They both do. It just depends. Sometimes we'll have a mix where there's a higher margin shipments happening. Specifically we ship more out of certain locations for certain product types. But volume definitely plays a huge factor for us in general just because with the volume coming up, it's covering more of our fixed cost, we've added capacity over the last couple of years. So it definitely covers some of those expenses associated with that. So, that's probably the more major factor out of it.
Robert Mertens: Got it. Okay. Well, congrats and thank you for letting me take the time and ask questions.
Jim Scholhamer: Thank you, Robert.
Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Jim Scholhamer for closing remarks. Please continue.
Jim Scholhamer: Thank you, everyone. Thank you for joining our call today. I think you can pick up, we're really excited about the go-forward and I hope you can join us next quarter and looking forward to it. Thank you.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
