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DATE

Wednesday, May 6, 2026 at 11:00 a.m. ET

CALL PARTICIPANTS

  • President & Chief Executive Officer — Jeffrey Powell
  • Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer — Michael McKenney

TAKEAWAYS

  • Total Revenue -- $281.5 million, up 18% driven by record parts and consumables revenue at 74% of total revenue.
  • Aftermarket Parts Revenue -- Record $209 million, representing a 74% share of total revenue.
  • Bookings -- Increased 25%, with double-digit organic growth and additional lift from acquisitions; strongest in North America and Asia.
  • Adjusted EBITDA -- $56.8 million, up 19%, equal to 20.2% of revenue.
  • Adjusted EPS -- $2.84, up 14%, exceeding the high end of guidance by $0.43 due to higher gross margins and lower operating expenses.
  • Record Segment Bookings -- Flow Control bookings rose 12% to $112 million; Industrial Processing bookings up 23% organically, totaling $145 million.
  • Flow Control Segment -- Revenue up 7% to $99 million, with a 27.8% EBITDA margin; aftermarket parts accounted for 77% of segment revenue.
  • Industrial Processing Segment -- Revenue surged 37% to $123 million from acquisitions; adjusted EBITDA margin at 24%.
  • Material Handling Segment -- Revenue rose 5% to $60 million, with bookings at $65 million; EBITDA margin declined due to unfavorable product mix.
  • Gross Margin -- 45%, down 110 basis points from the prior year, impacted by acquisition amortization and product mix.
  • SG&A Expenses -- 29.3% of revenue, with total expense up 16% year over year, largely due to acquisitions and a $2.8 million unfavorable forex effect.
  • Effective Tax Rate -- 28.2%, up from 24.3%, driven by a lack of prior year discrete tax benefits.
  • Operating Cash Flow -- $21.9 million, with free cash flow of $18.7 million; both down slightly year over year as expected for the first quarter.
  • Net Debt -- $244 million, decreased $8 million sequentially; leverage ratio at 1.27, with an anticipated increase next quarter from acquisition financing.
  • Book-to-Bill Ratio -- 1.14, a three-year high, reflecting strong aftermarket and capital bookings.
  • Backlog -- $326 million, up 13% from the prior quarter; capital equipment backlog at $193 million.
  • 2026 Revenue & EPS Guidance -- Revenue revised to $1.178 billion–$1.203 billion; adjusted EPS to $12.33–$12.68, which reflects $0.20 dilution from the Kadant Profil acquisition.
  • Kadant Profil Acquisition -- Expected to be dilutive to 2026 adjusted EPS by $0.20 due to intercompany revenue treatment and inventory timing.
  • Q2 2026 Guidance -- Revenue expected between $296 million and $306 million; adjusted EPS between $2.88 and $2.98.
  • Segment Revenue Mix Guidance -- Company expects 71% of 2026 revenue from parts and consumables, 29% from capital equipment.

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RISKS

  • Gross margin declined 110 basis points, primarily from acquisition-related amortization and unfavorable product mix.
  • Material Handling segment faced "downward pressure on gross margin," contributing to a lower EBITDA margin.
  • Kadant Profil acquisition will be "dilutive to our adjusted EPS results by $0.20 in 2026" due to intercompany inventory effects.
  • Management expressed caution: "the timing for other capital projects may be impacted by the current macroeconomic and geopolitical tensions," especially ongoing Middle East conflict and global trade uncertainty.

SUMMARY

Kadant (KAI +3.99%) reported record bookings and a favorable revenue mix, supported by double-digit organic growth and continued strength in aftermarket parts demand. The business delivered solid execution in the Flow Control and Industrial Processing segments, with both organic and acquisition-driven contributions cited as key to record segment bookings. Management highlighted steady year-over-year growth in the Material Handling segment despite margin headwinds from product mix shifts. Free cash flow and operating cash generation both fell slightly, which is typical for the company's first quarter seasonality. Liquidity position strengthened, with $210 million in available revolver capacity plus $200 million uncommitted capacity, following the recent acquisition which will notably raise the leverage ratio next quarter.

  • Kadant Profil acquisition introduces a complex revenue recognition dynamic, as 45% of sales are intercompany and only recognized when products reach third-party customers.
  • One capital project closed in Q1 with two additional projects materializing in Q2, signaling some thaw in delayed customer investments.
  • North America is expected to remain the strongest geography for demand, while Europe remains most sensitive to geopolitical and energy price instability.
  • Management maintains a cautious tone for 2026 capital project timing, noting ongoing volatility could result in certain projects sliding to 2027.

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

  • Aftermarket Parts Revenue: Sales of replacement parts and consumables for previously sold capital equipment, providing recurring earnings streams.
  • Book-to-Bill Ratio: The ratio of new orders (bookings) received to revenue billed (shipped) within the period; a ratio above 1 indicates backlog growth.
  • EBITDA: Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization; used to assess operational profitability excluding non-operational effects.
  • Intercompany Revenue: Sales between business units of the same parent company, which are eliminated from consolidated financial results until products are sold externally.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Michael McKenney: Thank you, Therese. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Kadant's First Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. With me on the call today is Jeff Powell, our President and Chief Executive Officer. Before we begin, let me read our safe harbor statement. Various remarks that we may make today about Kadant's future plans and expectations, financial and operating results and prospects are forward-looking statements for purposes of the safe harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

These forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause our actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those outlined at the beginning of our slide presentation and those discussed under the heading Risk Factors in our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended January 3, 2026, and subsequent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition, any forward-looking statements we make during this webcast represent our views and estimates only as of today.

While we may elect to update forward-looking statements at some point in the future, we specifically disclaim any obligation to do so even if our views or estimates change. During this webcast, we will refer to some non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP measures are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. A reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is contained in our first quarter earnings press release and the slides presented on the webcast and discussed in the conference call, which are available in the Investors section of our website at kadant.com.

Finally, I wanted to note that when we refer to GAAP earnings per share or EPS and adjusted EPS on this call, we are referring to each of these measures as calculated on a diluted basis. With that, I'll turn the call over to Jeff Powell, who will give you an update on Kadant's business and future prospects. Following Jeff's remarks, I'll give an overview of our financial results for the quarter, and we will then have our Q&A session. Jeff?

Jeffrey Powell: Thanks, Mike. Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us this morning to review our first quarter results and discuss our business outlook for 2026. The first quarter was a strong start to the year, highlighted by robust demand and solid earnings growth. We delivered strong profitability while continuing to see healthy demand in our aftermarket business and improving capital business. Despite the high level of uncertainty fueled by global trade challenges and the ongoing conflict in the Middle East, our first quarter exceeded expectations across most financial metrics. Record bookings and record aftermarket parts revenue, along with solid execution in our operations drove healthy gross margin performance across our businesses.

This, combined with lower-than-expected operating costs, led to exceeding our earnings expectations in the first quarter. We continue to refine our 80/20 performance system, which also contributed to our results despite economic headwinds and tough competition in our core markets. Turning now to our first quarter financial performance on Slide 6. I'd like to highlight a few metrics that I believe are central to our growth story. Double-digit organic growth, combined with our recent acquisitions delivered exceptional bookings growth of 25% in the first quarter compared to the same period last year. New order activity was strongest in North America and Asia, with all regions seeing healthy demand growth compared to last year.

Revenue was up 18% with aftermarket parts revenue, a record $209 million, representing 74% of our total revenue. The first quarter of the year is often a strong quarter in terms of parts bookings and revenue as our customers prepare for annual maintenance shutdowns. This strong demand is supported by our large installed base. Adjusted EBITDA increased 19% to $57 million, representing 20.2% of revenue. Finally, our adjusted EPS at $2.84 benefited from better-than-expected gross margin performance, lower-than-expected operating expenses and excellent execution discipline. Overall, the quarter reflected a balanced picture of increasing commercial momentum in bookings, solid profitability and cash flow and a revenue mix that strongly favored aftermarket parts.

Next, I'd like to discuss the performance of each of our 3 operating segments, beginning with our Flow Control segment. Flow Control segment experienced strong demand in the first quarter, led by our North American businesses. Bookings increased 12% to a record $112 million, led by robust capital order activity and record aftermarket parts demand. Q1 revenue increased 7% to $99 million with aftermarket parts revenue making up 77% of total Q1 revenue. This revenue performance is expected to remain stable as the year progresses and benefit from increased capital shipments in the second half of the year. Adjusted EBITDA increased 5% compared to the same period last year, and our adjusted EBITDA margin was 27.8%.

While EBITDA margin was down modestly compared to last year, we expect to gain some operating leverage as the year progresses. Next, I'll discuss our Industrial Processing segment on Slide 8. Strong demand for aftermarket parts and improved capital project order activity, combined with contributions from our recent acquisitions, led to record bookings of $145 million in the first quarter. Importantly, organic bookings were up 23%, reflecting improving underlying demand for our products and technologies as we started the year. Revenue increased 37% to a record $123 million due to contributions from our recent acquisitions, which included Clyde Industries and Babbini.

The integration of these companies into our Industrial Processing segment is progressing well, and we are pleased with the results delivered by both of these companies during the short time they have been part of Kadant. Adjusted EBITDA margin remained healthy at 24% of revenue. Overall, our first quarter performance in this segment was solid with second half of the year looking to be stronger than the first. In our Material Handling segment, we achieved steady year-over-year growth in both revenue and bookings, consistent with our expectations. Revenue increased 5% to $60 million, while new order activity was up modestly to $65 million. While business activity remains stable, we are seeing an environment defined by capital equipment timing volatility.

An unfavorable product mix led to downward pressure on gross margin, which contributed in part to a lower EBITDA margin. As we move into the second quarter, our backlog is strong, and we're encouraged by the fundamentals of our end markets, which include aggregate mining, waste management and recycling. We've entered 2026 with a good start to the year in terms of record bookings and solid revenue performance, further supporting our confidence in the periods ahead. We are seeing an improving capital equipment market, although the timing of these projects is more uncertain than normal due to the ongoing geopolitical conflicts.

We will continue to focus on strengthening our operations using our 80/20 business performance system and other internal initiatives, including increasing investments in automation to provide increased value for our customers. Finally, last week, we closed on the previously announced acquisition of voestalpine BOHLER Profil, now called Kadant Profil, a manufacturer of customized rolled products, rolled profiles and industrial knives. In the short term, due to a portion of the sales of Kadant Profil being intercompany, this acquisition will have a dilutive effect on our adjusted EPS until the products currently held in inventory by other Kadant businesses are sold to a third-party customer. Mike will discuss this in more details in his remarks.

Looking forward, we expect the newest addition to Kadant to be accretive to our earnings growth, and we are looking forward to integrating this business into the Kadant family. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Mike.

Michael McKenney: Thank you, Jeff. I'll start with some key financial metrics from our first quarter. Revenue increased 18% to $281.5 million in the first quarter '26, driven by record parts and consumables revenue, representing 74% of total revenue. Gross margin was 45% in the first quarter of '26, down 110 basis points compared to 46.1% in the first quarter '25. About half of this decrease relates to the negative effect of acquired profit and inventory amortization, which lowered gross margin in the first quarter of '26 by 50 basis points. The remaining decrease was due to the lower gross margin profile associated with the product mix in the quarter.

SG&A expenses as a percentage of revenue decreased to 29.3% in the first quarter of '26 compared to 29.8% in the prior year period. SG&A expenses increased $11.3 million or 16% to $82.5 million in the first quarter of '26 compared to $71.2 million in the first quarter '25. This included an increase of $7.9 million from our acquisitions and $2.8 million unfavorable foreign currency translation effect. Our effective tax rate in the first quarter was 28.2% compared to 24.3% in the prior year period.

The comparatively higher tax rate was due to discrete tax benefits related to the release of tax reserves and vesting of equity awards in the first quarter of '25, which lowered the effective tax rate by 320 basis points. Our GAAP EPS increased 6% to $2.16 in the first quarter, and our adjusted EPS increased 14% to $2.84, which exceeded the high end of our guidance range by $0.43. As a reminder, we announced on our earnings call that our adjusted EPS excludes noncash intangible amortization expense. But $0.43 guidance beat was due to higher gross margins and lower operating expenses than anticipated.

Adjusted EBITDA increased 19% to $56.8 million compared to $47.9 million in the first quarter of '25, principally due to strong contributions from our 2025 acquisitions. As a percentage of revenue, adjusted EBITDA was 20.2% compared to 20% in the first quarter '25. Operating cash flow was $21.9 million and free cash flow was $18.7 million in the first quarter of '26. Both were down slightly compared to the first quarter of '25. Our first quarter tends to be the weakest cash flow quarter as was the case in '25.

Other non-operating use of cash in the first quarter of '26 included $9.8 million of repayments on our debt, $3.3 million for capital expenditures, $4 million for dividends on our common stock and $4.9 million for tax withholding payments related to the vesting stock awards. Let me turn next to our EPS results for the quarter. Our adjusted EPS increased $0.34 from $2.50 in the first quarter of '25 to $2.84 in the first quarter of '26. This included increases of $0.58 from our acquisitions and $0.25 due to higher revenue.

These increases were offset by decreases of $0.24 due to higher operating expenses, $0.12 due to a higher tax rate, $0.07 due to a lower gross margin percentage, $0.05 due to higher interest expense and $0.01 due to higher noncontrolling interest expense. Let me provide some further details on these fluctuations. The $0.58 increase from our acquisitions represents the operating results of our 2025 acquisitions excluding associated borrowing costs and acquisition-related costs as well as recurring intangible amortization expense of $0.13. The majority of the $0.24 impact from higher operating expenses is due to an unfavorable foreign currency translation effect.

Collectively, included in all the categories I just mentioned, was a favorable foreign currency translation effect of $0.08 in the first quarter of '26 compared to the first quarter of last year. Looking at our liquidity metrics on Slide 15. Our cash conversion days increased to 147 at the end of the first quarter of '26 compared to 130 at the end of 2025, principally due to a higher number of days in inventory as our operations work to fulfill orders and backlog.

Working capital as a percentage of revenue increased to 20% in the first quarter of '26 compared to 16.8% in the first quarter of '25 due to the lack of a full year of revenue from our 2025 acquisitions. If you exclude the impact of our 2025 acquisitions from this calculation, it would be 17.4%, which is slightly above the first quarter of '25. Our net debt, that is debt less cash, decreased $8 million sequentially to $244 million at the end of the first quarter of '26. Our leverage ratio, calculated in accordance with our credit agreement, decreased to 1.27 at the end of the first quarter '26 compared to 1.33 at the end of '25.

At the end of April, we borrowed EUR 155 million to fund our acquisition. And as a result, we anticipate that our leverage ratio will increase to just below 2 next quarter. After deducting our acquisition borrowing, we have approximately $210 million of borrowing capacity available under our revolving credit facility and an additional $200 million of uncommitted borrowing capacity. As we anticipated, we had an increase in capital bookings in the first quarter. Our book-to-bill ratio increased to 1.14, a 3-year high due to record aftermarket parts and a strong uptick in capital bookings. Our ending backlog was up 13% sequentially to $326 million. That being said, we remain cautious with our outlook for capital project activity in '26.

While some pending capital projects have moved forward given some easing of earlier tariff-related uncertainty, the timing for other capital projects may be impacted by the current macroeconomic and geopolitical tensions. This environment has made it extremely difficult for our operations to forecast the timing of capital orders requiring significant judgment on order timing and future material costs. As Jeff mentioned in his remarks, we completed our acquisition of voestalpine BOHLER Profil, which we now call Kadant Profil, on April 30. We have now incorporated the operating results for this business into our updated 2026 guidance. I want to outline how the financial results of this acquisition will be reflected in Kadant's financial statements.

This company has been a longtime supplier to several Kadant businesses and as a result, a significant portion of its revenue, which was 45% for the last fiscal year, will be intercompany revenue and therefore, not included in Kadant reported revenue. The associated profit generated on this intercompany activity will be reflected in Kadant results, but the timing will depend on when the underlying product is sold to a third-party customer. In addition, our Kadant businesses currently have on-hand inventory that will need to be consumed.

For now, we have taken a conservative approach and have not included any profit for the intercompany sales as we estimate it may take the remainder of the year to work through the current on-hand inventory. Therefore, the only change to our guidance is the inclusion of Kadant Profil's external revenue and its operating results as well as the associated borrowing costs. We estimate Kadant Profil, including the associated borrowing costs, will be dilutive to our adjusted EPS results by $0.20 in 2026. Of course, if current on-hand inventory turns faster than expected, there could be some upside potential for 2026.

We are raising our revenue guidance for '26 to $1.178 billion to $1.203 billion, revised from our previous guidance of $1.116 billion to $1.185 billion. we now expect adjusted EPS of $12.33 to $12.68 in '26, which excludes $2.20 of intangible amortization expense and $0.33 of acquisition-related costs. This is revised from our previous guidance of $12.53 to $12.88 which excluded $2.13 of intangible amortization expense and $0.13 of acquisition-related costs. Looking at our quarterly revenue and EPS performance in '26, we expect that the first quarter will be the weakest quarter of the year. Again, I want to stress the only guidance change is related to adding the forecasted results for Kadant Profil and the associated borrowing costs.

Our revenue guidance for the second quarter of '26 is $296 million to $306 million and our adjusted EPS guidance for the second quarter is $2.88 to $2.98, which excludes $0.55 of intangible amortization expense and $0.07 of acquisition-related costs. Our revised '26 guidance includes the following assumptions: Gross margins of 44.5% to 45%; SG&A as a percent of revenue of 27.6% to 28.1%, net interest expense of $20 million to $21 million; a tax rate of 27.5% to 28%, depreciation expense of $27 million to $27.5 million, and intangible amortization expense, which we now add back to our adjusted EPS calculation of $34.5 million.

That concludes my review of the financials, and I will now turn the call back over to the operator for our Q&A session. Therese?

Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Gary Prestopino with Barrington.

Gary Prestopino: Looking back on the -- on what you said at the end of Q4, you said there were several capital projects that you thought would come to the market but you weren't really including them in any guidance or anything like that just because of the uncertainty. I mean -- I know you said it's still an uncertain environment but has anything happened there in terms of the amount of projects that you still think will be coming to the market?

Michael McKenney: Great question, Gary. Yes. So we had several, a handful, I'd say, 7 to 8 projects that we were monitoring of varying size that did not come in -- that we thought may come in, in '25 that didn't come in but they're still alive and well here in '26. And in the first quarter, one of those projects came in. And I'm happy to tell you here that in the second quarter, an additional 2 of those projects have come in. So as Jeff and I have said in our little notes here, we see the capital activity warming up a little bit here now, which is nice to see.

Gary Prestopino: Okay. That's very good news. And then just for purposes with the acquisition, I'm going to call it VBP because I can't pronounce the name here. It looks like as of the last numbers you gave, EUR 51.5 million, EUR 15.6 million of adjusted EBITDA works out to about [ EUR 60 million ] of annualized revenues, [ EUR 18 million ] of EBITDA. Is that holding in terms of the profitability of the business? Do we see any growth from the time that you gave us that trailing 12-month September number for '25?

Michael McKenney: So the profitability is holding. But when we did the forecast, we really looked at where they were so far in '26 and what they thought would happen for the remainder of '26. And so it has stepped down a little bit. So that [ EUR 60 million ] run rate that you quoted, I now have is [ EUR 55 million. ] And I would say of that incremental decrease, we're a component of that. We are a component of it because what we're trying to do is, quite frankly, get through our on-hand inventory so that we can get to current inventory being purchased that is now intercompany and we can recognize the profit on it.

So we were a component of the reduction. Some is also external sales but we stepped down our purchases because of our current inventory levels.

Gary Prestopino: Okay. That's fine. And then this thing has 100% of aftermarket parts revenue. So it's basically recurring, right?

Michael McKenney: Correct.

Operator: Our next question is from Ross Sparenblek from William Blair.

Ross Sparenblek: Somewhat of a cautious tone this quarter from your European peers. It would be great to just kind of get a sense of what you're seeing by geography and also anything around just factory utilization rates globally as well?

Jeffrey Powell: Yes. I would say, of course, North America as it has been really for the last few years, is continuing to be the strongest market. Asia was strong, I would say, in the first quarter. And as you pointed out, Europe is the most sensitive to what's going on in the Middle East and energy prices in addition to all the other challenges they frankly have right now. So I think that we expect that will probably be the case probably for most of the year that North America will be the strongest. And last year, I would say Europe, Asia was quite weak to begin with, and Europe was in the middle.

But I think Asia and Europe have flipped a little bit now. And it really will depend on how quickly this conflict is resolved and what the ultimate terms are when it is resolved. If energy prices return back to normal, then I think Asia -- Europe was positioned to try to start to make some investments. But of course, this has really impacted them because they're so dependent on external supply chains for their energy production.

Ross Sparenblek: Okay. So have you seen factory utilizations start to tail off in Europe to start the year?

Jeffrey Powell: I don't know that we've seen data. This conflict has been going now for several weeks. I'm not sure that we've seen hard data yet as to what that's doing but it's definitely slowed. Our European partners, some of our European divisions are talking about customers talking about delaying things again until they get a better picture on where energy prices are going to go. A lot of our products, of course, the payback calculation is very much driven by energy cost. So some spikes in energy sometimes can help our products but of course, when you have significant spikes, it really crushes overall demand, and we get impacted by that like everybody else.

So I think we're going to keep a close eye on what happens to energy prices in this conflict in the Middle East. But Europe is definitely the most sensitive to it.

Ross Sparenblek: Okay. Well, if we take out the large project in the first quarter, it looks like capital bookings were still up 20% year-over-year, and they've been accelerating here and your parts have been outperforming utilization rates for the last couple of years now. Just trying to get a sense of where you think kind of the run rate demand is and if we're starting to see the deferred maintenance start to flow at least in the States.

Jeffrey Powell: Yes. I mean we've been saying for some time that our history would tell us that it's hard for our customers to go more than 2 or 3 years underinvesting before it really starts to impact their operations. And so I think we've been tracking the age of our installed base and some of it is quite old. And as you pointed out, the parts are really outperforming because of that. So we have expected that there will start to be an investment cycle. A little bit the issue we have, it seems like beginning of every year, there's some black swan event that just creates uncertainty in the market. Last year, it was the big tariff war.

This year now, it's the Middle East conflict. It's just -- and it just creates uncertainty and it slows things down. But they can only delay investing for so long before it starts to really impact their competitiveness. So we're encouraged by the orders we've gotten. I would say when Mike mentioned a lot of those large capital projects, most of them were outside of Europe. They weren't in Europe. I mean there are a few that are in Europe, and we have gotten some actually from in Europe even this quarter.

But a lot of the big ones are in North America or I would say, North Africa, places like that, really outside of -- certainly outside of Western Europe because they've been quite cautious for some time.

Ross Sparenblek: Yes. Well, I mean, just also given all the M&A you guys have done over the last 2 years, can you help us maybe frame what this deferred maintenance spend should look like in the bookings? I mean, is it like -- is it kind of a $100 million quarterly run rate?

Michael McKenney: Well, Ross, if we -- if you look at the midpoint of our guidance on revenue, and if we had the -- essentially the same split on parts capital, so 71-29, we need about $340 million of capital revenue. Capital revenue -- so if you did that right out of the gate, you'd say $85 million a quarter. Capital revenue in the first quarter, of course, was softer, but we had good capital bookings. So the first quarter capital revenue was just $72 million. So that would say, okay, now that $85 million of revenue needs to be about $90 million.

And when we're looking forward, the divisions are saying that they foresee capital bookings that will be above the $90 million mark. So -- and I would add, I would kind of stitch in here the reason for our continued caution and hopefully, the geopolitical stuff will be settled here shortly and that won't create any further disruptions. But okay, we did have some of these capital projects that we were tracking we thought would come in, in '25. Now some have come in. Projects that we had slated for '26, a couple of projects already have been moved to '27. And specifically, those movements were related to the war.

So that's why we're being a little cautious here on the guidance front. So I'm hopeful that we'll continue on the track we're on, and we'll get to the end of the second quarter, and we'll have confidence to -- enough confidence to raise guidance.

Ross Sparenblek: Yes. I mean it looks like we're trending in the right direction after some headaches. And just on the capital backlog on the equipment side, like $193 million, is that ballpark? I know that subject to change with FX and...

Michael McKenney: Yes. Actually -- sorry, Ross, one second. I do have that right here. Yes. So backlog was $321 million, and you're spot on. It's $193 million capital. So nice work there.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Adi Madan from D.A. Davidson.

Aditya Madan: Just a couple of quick ones from me. So coming -- looking at your FY '26 sales outlook, does it still contemplate roughly like 1% to 3% organic sales growth? And can you remind us how that splits out between capital equipment and P&C?

Michael McKenney: Hang in there, Adi. I'll flip to that. So on the sales side, yes, you're right in the ballpark there. At our midpoint, I have us at 2%. So right in the middle of the 1% to 3%. And then what was the second part of the question, Adi, on the split? I have that as being -- I have it being 71 parts and consumables, 29 capital.

Aditya Madan: Awesome. Okay. And so looking at like P&C, obviously, like slightly lower year-over-year. Was there any like 1 or 2 big factors that were like contributed to this? And would there -- is there anything that would lead you to be concerned around this, maybe the lower contribution?

Michael McKenney: Well, Adi, I'm not sure. I tried to read through your -- the precall report this morning, which I thought was relatively on track, except for one item. But I can tell you on the parts and consumables front, either -- now are you looking revenue or bookings there?

Aditya Madan: Mainly revenue, but yes, you talked about bookings too.

Michael McKenney: Because they're up. It's up all in and it's up organically for both revenue and bookings. So I'm not sure there might have been just a little misstep. I think the only place you might get to organic being negative -- or excuse me, either being negative is on organic. You wouldn't, of course, come anywhere near that on the all-in. It's -- there are huge upticks. But when I go to the organic, we're in good shape on that also.

Aditya Madan: Got it. I think our report mainly talks about like the 74% versus 75% last year.

Michael McKenney: Yes. Yes, I have -- I would grant you organic on the parts and consumables front for revenue is only up modestly on that revenue front. And on the bookings front, it's up 4%.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] And I'm showing no further questions at this time. So I would now like to turn it back to Jeff Powell for closing remarks.

Jeffrey Powell: Thank you, Therese. So before wrapping up the call today, I just want to leave you with a couple of takeaways. Our record-setting new order activity and strong demand for aftermarket parts provides a solid start to 2026. And while there are a lot of discussions around new capital projects, the timing of these projects is more uncertain than normal due to the issues that we've noted today. Our employees around the globe continue to focus on meeting our customers' needs and finding new ways to deliver long-term value to our stockholders. I want to thank you for joining the call today, and we look forward to updating you at the end of next quarter. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may disconnect.