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DATE

Thursday, Aug. 6, 2026 at 8:00 a.m. ET

CALL PARTICIPANTS

  • Founder, CEO and Chairperson - Dr. Samantha Du
  • President and Head of Global Research and Development - Dr. Rafael Amado
  • Chief Financial Officer - Dr. Yajing Chen
  • Senior Vice President of Investor Relations - Christine Chiou
  • Chief Business Officer - Dr. Shan He
  • Operating Partner - Dr. Yizhe Wang

TAKEAWAYS

  • Total Revenues -- $106.3 million, compared to $110.0 million in the second quarter of 2025.
  • Net Product Revenue -- $105.8 million, up 11% versus the previous quarter driven by stabilization of ZEJULA and volume growth in VYVGART.
  • R&D Expenses -- $61.8 million, reflecting an increase from $50.6 million last year primarily due to higher licensing fees.
  • SG&A Expenses -- $72.9 million, remaining relatively flat compared to $71.0 million in the second quarter of 2025.
  • Net Loss -- $50.8 million, or $0.05 per ordinary share ($0.46 per American Depositary Share) compared to $40.7 million last year.
  • Cash and Cash Equivalents -- $717.5 million as of June 30, 2026, compared to $761.3 million as of March 31, 2026.
  • Zoci DLLEVATE Enrollment -- Completion of enrollment in the global Phase III study for second-line plus small cell lung cancer is expected in the first half of 2027.
  • U.S. Regulatory Submission -- Management expects an accelerated approval submission for Zoci in the U.S. in late 2027 with potential approval in 2028.
  • Confirmed ORR -- 38.2% for Zoci in extrapulmonary neuroendocrine carcinomas, which is higher than the roughly 18% seen with currently used regimens.
  • Zoci ESMO Data Size -- Presentation at the October 2026 conference will include data for approximately 60 patients with a median follow-up between 8 to 9 months.
  • VYVGART Volume Growth -- Sequential volume growth reached double digits versus the first quarter of 2026.
  • Inventory -- $90.9 million as of June 30, 2026, compared to $74.7 million as of Dec. 31, 2025.
  • KarXT Launch Date -- Commercial launch in mainland China for the treatment of schizophrenia in adults occurred in June 2026.
  • ZL-6201 Topline Results -- Topline results from the Phase Ia/b dose escalation study for the LRRC15 targeting ADC are expected in the first half of 2027.
  • ZL-1311 IND Timeline -- Management expects to submit an Investigational New Drug application for the MUC17 T-cell engager by the end of 2026.
  • Zoci Clinically Meaningful Benchmark -- Defined by management as achieving an 80% response rate or a 50% increase in median progression-free survival.
  • Loss from Operations -- $76.5 million, reflecting a year-over-year increase from $54.9 million driven by higher R&D expenses.
  • Adjusted Loss from Operations -- $60.4 million, excluding non-cash expenses including depreciation, amortization, and share-based compensation.
  • ZL-1503 SAD Data -- Initial pharmacokinetic, pharmacodynamic, and safety data from the single ascending dose portion of the trial are expected in the second half of 2026.

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RISKS

  • Chen warned that demand for XACDURO remains strong but is currently impacted by supply constraints.
  • Chen warned that reported revenue in the second half of 2026 "may not fully reflect underlying demand due to timing of NRDL-related commercial dynamics" as the company transitions from intravenous to subcutaneous versions of VYVGART.

SUMMARY

Zai Lab Limited (ZLAB +2.51%) is transitioning from a regional business model in China to a global biopharmaceutical structure, with its first U.S. product launch anticipated in 2028. Management reported a focus on developing internal oncology and immunology pipelines, specifically highlighting the zocilurtatug pelitecan (zoci) program as a potential first-in-class treatment. The commercial strategy centers on three primary brands including ZEJULA, VYVGART, and the recently launched KarXT. The company is implementing productivity measures through the integration of AI across clinical development, regulatory, and corporate functions to manage operating expenses.

  • CEO Du stated that the company advanced Zoci "from IND to global pivotal trials in less than 2 years," which reflects the speed and efficiency of its integrated development organization.
  • Management expects three registrational programs for Zoci to be underway by the end of 2026, including two in small cell lung cancer and one in neuroendocrine carcinoma.
  • CFO Chen noted that operating expenses are expected to "remain broadly stable through the remainder of the year" as the company prioritizes high-value programs.
  • Operating Partner Wang stated that the commercial focus is "brilliant at the basics" to drive metrics across ZEJULA, VYVGART, and KarXT.
  • The ZL-1503 program for atopic dermatitis utilizes YTE amino acid modifications to extend serum half-life and support less frequent dosing intervals.
  • KarXT represents the first new mechanism of action for schizophrenia in over 70 years, according to management commentary.

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

  • ADC: Antibody-drug conjugate, a class of biopharmaceutical drugs designed as a targeted therapy for treating cancer.
  • DLL3: Delta-like ligand 3, a protein that is highly expressed in small cell lung cancer and other neuroendocrine tumors.
  • epNEC: Extrapulmonary neuroendocrine carcinoma, a type of rare cancer that arises from neuroendocrine cells outside the lungs.
  • ESMO: European Society for Medical Oncology.
  • NRDL: National Reimbursement Drug List, the official list of drugs covered by China's national medical insurance system.
  • SCLC: Small cell lung cancer.
  • TCE: T-cell engager, a type of immunotherapy that directs the immune system's T cells to target and kill cancer cells.
  • YTE: A specific set of amino acid modifications (M252Y, S254T, T256E) introduced into the antibody Fc region to extend the serum half-life.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Operator: Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to Zai Lab's Second Quarter 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Christine Chiou, Senior Vice President of the Investor Relations. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Christine Chiou: Thank you, operator. Hello, and welcome, everyone. Today's earnings call will be led by Dr. Samantha Du, Zai Lab's Founder, CEO and Chairperson. She will be joined by Dr. Rafael Amado, President and Head of Global Research and Development; and Dr. Yajing Chen, Chief Financial Officer. Dr. Shan He, our Chief Business Officer; and Dr. Yizhe Wang, our operating partner, will also be available to answer questions during the Q&A portion of the call. As a reminder, during today's call, we will be making certain forward-looking statements based on our current expectations.

These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from what we expect due to a variety of factors, including those discussed in our SEC filings. We will also refer to adjusted loss from operations, which is a non-GAAP financial measure. Please refer to our earnings release furnished with the SEC on August 6, 2026, for additional information on this non-GAAP financial measure. At this time, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Dr. Samantha Du.

Ying Du: Thanks, Christine. Good morning, and good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Zai Lab has reached an important inflection point in its evolution from a regional business into a global biopharmaceutical company. We built this company by bringing first or best-in-class medicines to patients in China. Today, we are developing our own innovative medicines for patients worldwide with our first U.S. regulatory submission expected next year. The transformation reflects the R&D capabilities we have built. We're conducting global multiple center registrational oncology trials, advancing additional clinical programs across oncology and immunology and advancing our preclinical pipeline into INDs this year. Zoci, our potential first and best-in-class DLL3 ADC demonstrates what Zai Lab is capable of.

We advanced it from IND to global pivotal trials in less than 2 years, reflecting the speed and efficiency of the integrated development organization we have built. By the end of this year, we expect to have 3 registrational programs in small cell lung cancer and neuroendocrine carcinoma. We're also evaluating Zoci in combination with T cell engagers through collaborations with Amgen and Boehringer Ingelheim. Our second major global opportunity is ZL-1503, a potential first-in-class long-acting IL-13L-31 bispecific for atopic dermatitis. We believe it has the potential to bring together multiple attributes in a single asset, robust skin clearance, rapid and durable reduction and longer dosing interval. Later this year, we'll report the program's first human data.

At the same time, we continue to strengthen our commercial business. This quarter, we sharpened our focus behind our highest priority brands. Net product revenue grew 11% versus previous quarter, and the business remained commercially profitable. We're setting a strong foundation and expect a return to meaningful year-on-year growth in 2027, followed by the potential for our first U.S. product launch in 2028. Zai Lab's evolution into a global biopharmaceutical company is well underway with a growing portfolio of globally developed differentiated medicines and a profitable commercial business. We're confident in the path ahead and the long-term value we can create for shareholders and patients.

With that, let me turn the call over to Rafael to further discuss our pipeline in greater detail. Thank you.

Rafael Amado: Thank you, Samantha. Let me walk you through the pipeline and what to expect this year. Starting with Zoci, our DLL3 targeted ADC. Small cell lung cancer is one of the most difficult diseases in oncology, and Zoci has demonstrated what we believe is a potential best-in-class ADC profile. In patients who have failed frontline multiple lines of treatment, we're seeing strong responses, including high responses and control of brain metastases. That efficacy with a favorable safety profile positions Zoci as a backbone for future combination regimens across lines of therapy. This program is moving fast.

Our global registration Phase III in second-line plus small cell lung cancer is expected to complete enrollment in the first half of 2027 with a U.S. accelerated approval submission expected to follow later that year and approval anticipated in 2028. At ESMO in October, we will present combination data evaluating Zoci plus PD-L1 with or without chemo in first-line small cell lung cancer or during maintenance. Today's standard of care of IO plus chemo delivers a 60% to 70% response rate, median PFS of about 5 months and grade 3 or higher treatment-related adverse events around 60%. NCCN guidelines recommend 4 cycles of platinum-based chemotherapy.

A chemo-sparing regimen could offer better tolerability, allow longer treatment duration compared to systemic chemotherapy and improved control of brain metastases. This is the basis of our Phase III combination strategy with immunotherapy, which we have discussed with regulators. We anticipate initiating the trial in the coming months. And in extrapulmonary neuroendocrine carcinomas where there is no established standard of care in the second line and beyond, Zoci demonstrated a confirmed ORR of 38.2%, which is well above the roughly 18% seen with currently used regimens. We're engaging with regulators on a potential approval pathway using extended single-arm data from our ongoing second-line trial with a subsequent approval pathway in first line. So 3 registrational programs underway by year-end.

We're also collaborating with Amgen and Boehringer Ingelheim to combine Zoci with T cell engagers. A global Phase Ib study with Amgen is already enrolling, including a cohort of untreated small cell lung cancer patients on a triple combination of Zoci, IMDELLTRA and Imfinzi. And the global Phase Ib/II study with Boehringer Ingelheim in neuroendocrine carcinoma is expected to initiate in the coming months. Beyond Zoci, our next wave of global assets is advancing quickly. ZL-1503 is a long-acting humanized IgG1 bispecific antibody targeting both interleukin-13 and interleukin-31 receptor alpha. It includes YTE amino acid modifications in the Fc region that extend serum half-life and support less frequent dosing.

Through blocking both pathways at once, ZL-1503 is designed to break the itch scratch inflammation cycle with rapid durable efficacy and less frequent dosing in moderate to severe atopic dermatitis. ZL-1503 is in the clinic now with first-in-human data in healthy volunteers to be presented in the second half of this year. This data set will include pharmacokinetic data following single dose administration and pharmacodynamic data, including inhibition of AD-related biomarkers such as pSTAT6, TARC and CCL26, a cytokine that recruits eosinophils during type 2 inflammation. We will also have an initial read on safety and immunogenicity, including assessment of antidrug antibodies.

We're also currently enrolling patients with AD in the multiple ascending dose portion of the trial, and we will share this data at a major medical conference next year. We believe ZL-1503 with a potentially differentiated profile can address unmet medical needs in one of the largest markets in immunology globally, and we are moving this program forward rapidly. Beyond its lead indication, ZL-1503 has the potential to expand into additional IL-13 and IL-31 mediated diseases, creating a broader development opportunity over time. We look forward to sharing updates as the program advances. I would highlight just 2 more programs, ZL-6201, our internally discovered LRRC15 targeting ADC.

We are actively enrolling patients in the global Phase I study and expect to complete enrollment in the dose escalation portion with initial data expected in the first half of next year. By year-end, we expect to submit an IND for ZL-1311, a next-generation T-cell engager targeting mucin 17, a promising target for gastrointestinal cancers. In summary, we have the infrastructure and capacity to advance multiple global programs at different stages of development simultaneously at speed and efficiency and across geographies while also advancing our regional pipeline. We have significant data emerging throughout the year on our most advanced products, and I look forward to sharing it with you in the coming months.

And with that, I'll hand it over to Yajing.

Yajing Chen: Thank you, Rafael. As Samantha and Rafael described, Zai Lab is entering the next phase of its evolution. From a financial perspective, our objective is straightforward, build on our commercially profitable business while investing with discipline behind the innovation that will drive our next stage of growth. In the second quarter, net product revenue grew 11% sequentially to $105.8 million, and the business remained commercially profitable. ZEJULA was steady. VYVGART volumes grew double digits sequentially. XACDURO demand remains strong despite supply constraints and KarXT's launch is off to an excellent start. In the second half of the year, we expect to further stabilize product sales while laying the foundation for a return to a meaningful growth in 2027.

KarXT is expected to be a key driver of that growth as the first new mechanism of action for schizophrenia in decades with efficacy across positive and negative symptoms, no boxed warning and inclusion in national treatment guidelines, we believe KarXT is well positioned to address a significant unmet need. Early physician interest and positive patient experiences are encouraging, and we are building good momentum ahead of potential NRDL inclusion in 2027. For the VYVGART franchise, we intend to seek NRDL inclusion for VYVGART Hytrulo and are preparing for a gradual transition from IV to subcu. As a result, reported revenue in the second half may not fully reflect underlying demand due to timing of NRDL-related commercial dynamics.

Looking ahead to 2027, we are confident in a return to meaningful growth, supported by new product launches, potential NRDL product inclusion and continued demand growth across our key brands. Beyond 2027, we expect our internally developed pipeline to become an increasingly important contributor to both revenue and margins. On expenses, we remain disciplined, prioritizing our highest value programs while improving productivity through streamlining the organization and the use of AI across clinical development, regulatory, commercial and corporate functions. As a result, we expect operating expenses to remain broadly stable through the remainder of the year. We ended the quarter with $717.5 million in cash, providing the financial flexibility to continue investing in the highest value opportunities.

Pulling this together, we have a commercially profitable business, disciplined capital allocation and a global innovative pipeline that will increasingly shape the company's future growth and drive substantial value for patients and shareholders alike. With that, I will open it up for questions.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] We will now take our first question from the line of Anupam Rama from JPMorgan.

Anupam Rama: Just looking to ESMO, can you walk us through what you're looking for in the first-line small cell study of Zoci plus IO plus or minus chemo? Like what's going to be the size and scope of that data set? And how are you defining a win scenario?

Christine Chiou: Thank you, Anupam. This is Christine. Rafael, could you take that question, please?

Rafael Amado: Sure. So at ESMO, we expect to present about 60 patients worth of data. This will include doublet and triplet, but most patients will be in the doublet with a checkpoint inhibitor at the highest dose of 1.6 milligrams per kilogram. We have been monitoring that data. We think we'll be fairly mature by the time of ESMO with a median follow-up between 8 or 9 months. So we will be able to report on a meaningful data set by then. In terms of what to look for, I think the benchmark with the checkpoint inhibitor studies have shown responses in the 60% to 70% with chemotherapy and median follow-up -- sorry, progression-free survival of about 5 months.

So there's still room for improvement in the about 80% response rate or so and a 50% increase in median PFS would be, I think, clinically meaningful. So those are sort of the parameters that we're looking for. We're obviously at the same time that we're preparing this data set moving forward with operationalizing the study. And it's going to be a chemo-sparing study, not because we saw any DLTs with the triplet, but because we think it's more convenient, and we will be able to give higher dose intensity of Zoci than chemotherapy does.

Operator: And the next question comes from Michael Yee from UBS.

Kaiyue Yang: This is Kyle Yang for Michael. Two for us. The first one on the higher level, the company previously guided toward profitability by end of 2025. So how should we think about that? And at what point do you think investors can start to revisit the profitability goal? The second question is on IL-13, IL-31. The atopic dermatitis landscape is getting increasingly competitive. And we recently saw additional investor interest in the space, including a new IPO this week also has -- that also has an IL-13, IL-31. So how should we think about the differentiation of your asset versus your competitors?

Christine Chiou: Thank you, Kyle. Yajing, can you please take the one on profitability and Rafael, a question on the 1503 differentiation, please?

Yajing Chen: All right. Thanks for the question. So I'm really looking at the profitability through the lens of our capital allocation. So we already have a commercially profitable business today. Our local manufacturing is on track for XACDURO and KarXT that will continue to improve our profitability. However, at the same time, we have multiple global competitive programs that we believe have the potential to create substantially greater long-term value. So right now, our responsibility is to invest where the returns justify it. We do maintain a very high bar for every investment decision.

So in summary, we are kind of growing revenue with our potential global approval in 2028, which will improve margin and drive operating efficiencies across the organization at the same time. So we believe those factors adding together will naturally lead to the profitability over time and continue to improve the profitability over time as well.

Rafael Amado: Yes. This is Rafael. I'll just make a few comments about 1503. So the drug, as you know, is designed to have 3 highly desirable attributes. The first one was robust skin clearance. And I think this is through Th2 suppression, but by breaking the cycle of itching, scratching and inflammation that we see. I think by inhibiting the receptor, the 31 receptor, we should see brisk reduction in pruritus.

We also have a molecule that is YTE modified, the extended dosing interval that's going to be tested in the current study that is ongoing, both in healthy volunteers and MADs, but we expect that it will be superior to the standards at the moment with every 1 month and dupi every 2 weeks. So we expect to go beyond that. And there are a few agents that actually have the 3 simultaneous attributes. Some of them are preclinical. Some of them are targeting the ligand, some of them are targeting the receptor.

We believe that targeting IL-13 ligand and targeting 31 receptor, the YTE modification will result in both better reported outcomes with regards to pruritus, which is really morbid in these patients, but also improvement in inflammation. And also, this is an underpenetrated market where there isn't really a winner takes all, if you will. So I think any improvement in quality of life, dose extension and more importantly, inflammation and patient symptoms will allow for these drugs to have a role in atopic dermatitis. So we're also moving very fast with the Phase I study, and we expect to, as we've guided before, present healthy volunteers data this year and then next year, the MAD data in atopic dermatitis.

So we are a bit ahead of some of the competitors.

Operator: We will now take our next question from Li Watsek from Cantor.

Li Wang Watsek: I have one pipeline and one commercial question. For 1503, the bispecific antibody, just wondering what is the potential dosing profile that you're looking for? And how would the SAD data later this year inform you on the drug profile? Any early trends on ADA from the MAD cohort? And the second question is on the commercial side. Just at a high level, how do you envision the China business to evolve in the coming quarters? What are the metrics that are most important to you?

Christine Chiou: Thank you, Li. Rafael, can you take the question on the dosing profile for 1503 and how the upcoming data will inform on the profile and on ADA. And then Yizhe, if you can address the commercial question.

Rafael Amado: Yes. So in the healthy volunteers data, it's a single IV injection, and we have 6 cohorts. We're testing 4 doses. The single injections and the patients are being followed long term. This will inform us mostly on tolerability and PK, including half-life and then the biomarkers that I mentioned in the prepared remarks, including immunogenicity of antidrug antibodies. The MAD has 2 cohorts with 2 doses, also IV, and it's a larger cohort. I think to hone into the dose, we will need to do a bit more experimentation. There's a bioequivalence study that will compare the IV to the subcu and then we will do more dose experimentation with the subcutaneous dose.

We expect that there will be a short induction course followed by a longer maintenance dosing, but it's premature to speculate on the actual dose. So -- and on the question about antibody drug conjugates, obviously, we're looking at this, and we will be reporting on this suffice it to say that the study continues.

Yizhe Wang: Okay. Li, and hi, everybody. This is Yizhe here, and I'm speaking with you in China right now. Can you hear me okay? Good signal?

Christine Chiou: Yes.

Yizhe Wang: Very good. Great. Okay. So commercial. So first of all, I just want to say 3 months in a row, I look at commercial, it's not just a China business only, right? If you look out 3-year horizon, we have the potential to launch our first U.S. assets, our global assets, very exciting. That is Zoci. But that being said, the near term, absolutely, our focus should be focusing on our regional business, which is primarily our China business. So my view is this, we actually have a pretty sizable business, okay, but with a diverse, right, mix. Some are CSO products, some are promoted by our own sales.

So from my perspective, it's very important going forward to be very focused focus on 3 key brands. That is return ZEJULA to growth and continue growth on the volume growth, underlying demand on efgart and also launch excellence for KarXT, okay? From execution front, we must go back to the basics. We have to be very good at, I call it brilliant at the basics, really drive the metrics. So you asked me about what are some of the potential KPIs. So it's all about underlying demand. So for example, for each of these brands, new patient start will be critically important. We like to see the signal continue. For those who flatten, we want to return to growth.

And for those has been growing, we want to continue to grow or potentially accelerate. We have seen these signals, right? And that will lead to, I think, in the next couple of quarters, a consolidation or solidification of our stabilization of revenue and eventually turning to a very meaningful growth in 2027, okay? So that is where we are. So in the second -- in the upcoming quarter, I look for is -- as you see the second quarter, we actually delivered an 11% sequential quarter-over-quarter growth. So in the upcoming quarter, we -- I see quite confidently we can solidify that.

And then really -- in the meantime, really improving our underlying demand and setting ourselves up for a very good next year. And during this period, we also will focus on a couple of NRDL, right, negotiations. We want to make sure we win and we win at a good price.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Yigal Nochomovitz from Citi.

Unknown Analyst: This is [ Caroline ] on for Yigal. We're wondering as your MUC17 T cell engager approaches the clinic, what aspects of the preclinical profile give you the greatest confidence it can overcome historical challenges associated with T cell engagers in solid tumors?

Christine Chiou: Rafael, if you can take the MUC17 T Cell.

Rafael Amado: Sure. Yes. This is MUC17 T cell engager. It's an interesting target. It's in GI tumors, more prominently in gastric, pancreas and other tumors of the GI tract. It is engineered to be biparatopic. So it targets more than one epitope. So hopefully, the avidity will be higher. But the CD3 is balanced by higher on and off rate. And we believe that, that hopefully, in the clinic will ameliorate cytokine release syndrome, which is really the Achilles heel of these products and that they need to be given in the hospital because of the emergence of CRS.

So a lot of the innovation in this field, as you probably know, is directed to increasing efficacy, but also decreasing the potential toxicity related to CRS so that eventually one day, these products can be given in the community. We can say that preclinically, as we prepare to the IND, the product looks really to have great properties compared to other potential products in this target, including competitors. So we're pretty excited about it, and we're moving forward with the goal of having this IND out by the year's end.

Operator: We would now take our next question from Daina Graybosch from Leerink Partners.

Daina Graybosch: I wonder if you can talk about the combination of your DLL3 ADC with the DLL3 targeted T cell engager and sort of mechanistically and biologically why that has value or differentiation relative to combining a DLL3 T cell engager with the B7-H3 ADC?

Christine Chiou: Thank you, Daina. It's great to have you on the call. Rafael, can you address the question on the combo of DLL3 plus TCE and why it may have value and differentiation versus the B7-H3 combo?

Rafael Amado: Yes. I mean the more simplistic reason is that the mechanisms of action are orthogonal. They are very different. One is a cytotoxic that can debulk tumors, particularly small cell lung cancer that can present with a high-volume disease and then allow T cells to eliminate residual disease and maintain immune surveillance. As the ADC kills the tumor cells, it liberates other antigens that are neoantigens. And the T cells, even though they're directed to DLL3, can respond to these neoantigens, particularly when they're combined with PD-1. So this is a combination which is really targeted to bring in cytotoxicity as well as IO into the tumor. In the case of Zoci and IMDELLTRA, for instance, the epitopes are different.

So both drugs can actually bind in the same cell. And it's known that the density of receptors are required for ADCs and TCEs are different. ADCs combine even if there are lower receptors because there's also a bystander effect that can affect cells that have low DLL3 expression. So this is something, obviously, that still needs to be proven. We're doing the studies and the studies are aimed to look at tolerability. The good news is that there aren't really overlapping toxicities, except for potentially myelosuppression. And with regards to whether DLL3 is the same -- is the best target because it's the same target, there's a B7-H3 study that Amgen was conducting.

It is on pause at the moment with IMDELLTRA as well. B7-H3 is not a tumor-specific target. It's present in normal tissue, including the lung epithelium. So there's a potential for more toxicity and in small cell lung cancer patients, lung toxicity can be problematic because of the incidence of ILD with ADCs. So we think that having a safer target that is more tumor specific is probably a better option. So we're looking forward to seeing the results of these combinations. Amgen obviously has data with B7-H3, but that hasn't been released. And we look forward to looking at the dual -- DLL3 dual mechanism approach. And hopefully, we'll have that data early next year.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] We will now take our next question from the line of Linhai Zhao from Goldman Sachs.

Linhai Zhao: This is Linhai from Goldman. Just a follow-up question on the Zoci and DLL3-TCE combinations. We've seen that both Amgen and BI have initiated the Phase I/II trials, including different cohorts for both the late line and first line. And for the RP2D in first-line triplet exploration, wondering if the RP2D will still remain as 1.6 mg or there will be a dose titration to a different dose level? And for the 2 Phase I/II trials, what might be the expected time that we will see some data?

Christine Chiou: Thank you, Linhai. Rafael, could you address the question on the RP2D dose for the Zoci plus T cell engagers study?

Rafael Amado: Yes. So the 2 immunotherapies, the PD-L1 as well as the T cell engager will be used as standard doses. There may be some accommodation to be able to dose every 3 weeks just because Zoci is dosed every 3 weeks. With regards to Zoci, we're only exploring 2 doses and moving very fast. We're exploring 1.2 and 1.6 milligrams per kilogram. We don't have any reason to think that 1.6 won't be well tolerated. So we hope that, that will be the dose that we go on to expand. So that's as much as we can say. The study is ongoing. The Amgen one is ongoing and accruing well.

And it's got a cohort of patients that are untreated, which I think is probably the most exciting cohort. As you know, the response rate with T cell engagers is relatively modest. It's in the 30% to 40%, whereas the response rate with ADCs is very high. So you combine also differential response rates, differential durability of response and then a potential immune surveillance that in Phase III studies with T cell engagers, particularly with IMDELLTRA in second line has led to a 6-month difference in survival. So again, mechanistically, this makes a lot of sense.

And in terms of the doses, we hope that we won't have to modify our target dose that we have chosen across the development plan for Zoci, which is 1.6 mgs per kg.

Linhai Zhao: And when will we see the data readouts from the trial?

Rafael Amado: With the drug being operationalized by Amgen, so even though we obviously work very closely with them, it will be probably a joint decision, but they will take the lead as to when those results will be presented. My sense is that it will be next year, but I can't tell you exactly when it will happen. I would probably guide towards the end of the second half of the year.

Operator: I am showing no further questions. I'll now turn the conference back to Dr. Samantha Du for her closing comments.

Ying Du: Thank you, operator. I want to thank everyone for taking the time to join us on the call today. We appreciate your support and look forward to updating you again after the third quarter of 2026. Operator, you may now disconnect this call.

Operator: Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect your lines.