Rogers Corp (ROG) Q4 2018 Earnings Conference Call Transcript

ROG earnings call for the period ending December 31, 2018.

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Rogers Corp  (NYSE:ROG)
Q4 2018 Earnings Conference Call
Feb. 20, 2019, 5:00 p.m. ET

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Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Good day. My name is Chantal, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Rogers Fourth Quarter 2018 and Full Year Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions)

I will now turn the call over to your host, Mr. Jay Knoll, Senior Vice President and General Counsel. Sir, you may begin your conference.

Jay B. Knoll -- Senior Vice President, Corporate Development, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary

Thank you, Chantal. Good afternoon, everyone and welcome to Roger -- Rogers Corporation's fourth quarter and full year 2018 earnings conference call. The slides for today's call can be found on the Investors section of our website along with the news release that was issued today.

Please turn to Slide two. Before we begin, I would like to note that statements in this conference call that are not strictly historical are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and should be considered as subject to the many uncertainties that exists in Rogers' operations and environment. These uncertainties include economic conditions, market demands and competitive factors. Such factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those in any forward-looking statements.

Also the discussions during the conference call may include certain financial measures that were not prepared in accordance with Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. Reconciliation of those non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in the slide deck for today's call, which is posted on the Investors section of our website.

Turning to Slide three. With me today is Bruce Hoechner, President and CEO; Mike Ludwig, Senior Vice President and CFO; and Bob Daigle, Senior Vice President and CTO.

I will now turn the call over to Bruce.

Bruce D. Hoechner -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Jay. Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us for today's call. In the fourth quarter, net sales were near the top of our previously announced guidance range at $223 million, a decrease of 2% from Q3 2018 and an increase of 7% over Q4 2017, a strong start in the quarter was tempered in December by global uncertainty linked to trade issues and interest rate concerns.

Adjusted earnings per share for the quarter were $1.67, an 18% increase over Q3 2018. Net sales for the full year 2018 were $879 million, an increase of 7% over 2017. For the year, adjusted earnings per share were $5.77, up slightly compared to 2017. During the year, we saw a broad-based growth across many of our key market segments, with particular strength in advanced mobility applications for electric and hybrid electric vehicles, EV/HEV and Advanced Driver Assistance Systems, ADAS. We expect this growth to continue based upon the strength of a number of leading indicators, which I will discuss in more detail shortly.

Our investments to position the business for further growth impacted our margins in 2018. We experienced greater than anticipated near-term costs related to initiatives to accelerate capacity expansion and reduce our cost structure. We have made progress on a number of these projects, including completing our multi-site product qualifications, concluding our Belgium plant consolidation, installing additional lamination presses in multiple locations and acquiring circuit materials manufacturing assets in Chandler, Arizona.

In summary, 2018 was a pivotal year for Rogers. We accelerated capacity expansion projects as market indicators provided greater clarity on the timing and the increasing size of opportunities in advanced mobility and advanced connectivity applications. Looking ahead to 2019 performance, given the strong demand outlook for our ACS and PES businesses, capacity expansion projects will continue. We will also continue to integrate and optimize our most recent acquisitions, which will result in a positive effect on margins as these projects are completed during 2019. Rogers is well positioned to capitalize on the strong growth outlook in 5G and in our advanced mobility markets of EV/HEV, vehicle electrification and ADAS.

Please turn to Slide five. As part of the transition to 5G in 2018, we experienced somewhat weaker demand for 4G/LTE wireless applications. However, there is encouraging news about the wireless infrastructure market moving forward. For example, China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology assigned 5G spectrums to China's three telecom operators during December. In early January, the Ministry issued temporary 5G licenses paving the way for larger 5G networks and hotspots to be put in place in some cities.

While exact numbers differ, there is general industry consensus that there'll be meaningful 5G base station deployment during 2019. According to the industry consultancy and mobile experts, the number of base stations shipments will be more than 200,000 which we expect to be weighted toward the second half of the year. I'll talk more about the implications for Rogers as we discussed the ACS business.

In addition to the outlook in 5G, our confidence in base line 4G demand has increased, following a recent announcement from a leading Chinese service provider that began a bidding process for 416,000 4G LTE base stations to be installed during 2019. This validates the industry view that 4G demand will remain relatively stable in 2019 as 5G ramps.

Turning to Slide six. The growth outlook for Rogers in advanced mobility, which includes EV/HEV, vehicle electrification and ADAS applications remains robust. We continue to work closely with a broad range of customers to support current demand and develop products that will enable the performance of emerging technologies. Looking at e-Mobility, as the auto industry moves toward higher levels of electrification, the opportunity for Rogers expands through both increased market penetration and higher content.

During 2018, a number of major automotive manufacturers accelerated their plans for a substantial transition from internal combustion engine vehicles to EV/HEV models over the next three years to five years. This shift is driving a compounded annual growth rate of 28% for EV/HEV through to 2023. In addition to the growth in EV/HEV applications, automotive OEMs continue to increase the electrification of systems in internal combustion engines such as power steering, air conditioning and stop-start. This transition is providing additional growth opportunities for Rogers.

Please turn to Slide seven. In 2018, growth in ADAS applications slowed somewhat, particularly in Q3 as the European automakers worked through new emission standards. Entering 2019, we've seen a recovery in demand and the growth outlook for Rogers is strong as ADAS radar systems penetrate more automotive models and the average number of sensors continues to increase with higher levels of our economy.

Through 2023, industry experts are projecting a compounded annual growth rate in the 20% range for automotive radar units across a variety of radar sensors. Rogers portfolio is applicable across the full range of requirements for short, mid and long-range radar sensors. For example, 24-gigahertz for blind spot detection and 77 gigahertz for adaptive cruise control. Over the past few years, we've been designed into many of these applications and we continue to benefit from the substantial ADAS market growth.

Please turn to Slide eight. In 2018, ACS net sales of $294 million were down 2% compared to 2017. Demand in aerospace and defense and ADAS was offset by weaker demand for 4G/LTE applications. As we look ahead, we are encouraged by the imminent 5G telecom deployments which utilized three to five times more Rogers material compared to traditional 4G/LTE designs.

This greater content is due primarily to the adoption of advanced MIMO 5G antenna systems which require high-performance, low loss circuit materials. In addition to greater content requirements in base station power amps. And in ADAS, we expect to maintain a steady growth as safety features continue their expansion into more mass market models.

In order to ensure Rogers fully capitalizes on the 5G and ADAS opportunities, we have been taking measures to prepare our operations through capacity expansion and multi-site customer qualifications. In addition, we are converting the recently acquired Chandler, Arizona facility to produce Rogers materials targeted for 5G applications.

Please turn to Slide nine. During the year, PES achieved all-time record sales of $223 million, an increase of 21% over full year 2017. This outstanding organic growth was driven primarily by EV/HEV and vehicle electrification applications, where revenues grow -- grew more than 50%. As automotive propulsion technologies advance toward a greater degrees of electrification, Rogers is positioned to grow its content. For example, a pure electric vehicle can have 10 times more Rogers material content than an internal combustion engine vehicle with electrified systems such as power steering, and stop-start capabilities.

The greater than expected demand we've experienced in this area has led us to accelerate our CapEx plans. We are adding capacity that includes significant expansion of our production capabilities for our new-generation silicon nitride materials for wide band gap semiconductor packaging. As we bring new equipment online and improve yields of our new products, we expect to reduce capacity constraints and improve margins in PES.

Turning to Slide 10. In 2018, EMS achieved net sales of $341 million, reflecting organic growth of 5%, including Griswold, EMS net sales increased 9% over full year 2017. Results for the year were driven by double-digit growth in applications for portable electronics, as well as automotive applications, particularly EV/HEV battery pads and battery pack ceiling systems.

An excellent example of EMS innovation in this area is our newly launched PORON EVExtend materials, which provide lithium-ion battery designers with new ways to optimize the performance of their battery packs. PORON EVExtend helps ensure that the lithium-ion cells perform consistently over an extended period of time.

In 2018, we closed the Griswold acquisition and began to integrate the new business into EMS. We are finalizing the plant consolidation of the DSP line into our Carol Stream facility to further drive operational efficiencies in the EMS business. We expect to complete this project in the first half of 2019. Also in 2019, we will continue to optimize all of our recent acquisitions to further improve our operational performance and margins.

Please turn to Slide 11. We are committed to the four pillars of our growth strategy, which includes being a market-driven organization, delivering innovation leadership, utilizing synergistic M&A and driving operational excellence. We are focused on achieving our 2020 goals of $1.2 billion in revenue and 20% adjusted operating margin.

I'm excited about our prospects in 2019 and beyond. Momentum is truly building. We are well positioned to capitalize on the significant opportunities that abound in 5G and advanced mobility applications. As we move through the year, we will bring online additional capacity, optimize our acquisitions and execute on our operational excellence initiatives to drive profitability.

I will now turn the call over to Mike, who will report our Q4 and full year 2018 results in greater detail, as well as additional financial highlights. Mike?

Michael M. Ludwig -- Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Bruce and good afternoon, everyone. In the slides ahead, I'll review our fourth quarter and annual results for 2018, followed by our first quarter guidance. Turning to Slide 13, we will preview the financial results for Q4 2018.

Fourth quarter revenues as previously noted were $222.9 million above the midpoint of our Q4 guidance range, but some headwinds in December mentioned by Bruce and the unfavorable currency rates compared to Q3 resulted in revenues being 2% lower than our third quarter revenues. We improved our operating performance in the fourth quarter compared to Q3, resulting in a sequential improvement in our gross margin to 35.2% that below the midpoint of our guidance. I will add some additional commentary on gross margin later in my presentation.

Adjusted operating income for Q4 2018 was $35.6 million or 16% of revenues compared to $38.6 million or 17% of revenues for Q3 2018. Operating expenses increased by $2 million in the quarter, consistent with our expectation of a Q4 increase. GAAP EPS of a $1.31 per fully diluted share, and adjusted EPS of a $1.67 per fully diluted share for Q4 2018 were both well above the upper end of the guidance range for Q4 and measurably higher than the comparable third quarter fully diluted EPS metrics.

The significant beat on the diluted EPS metrics, both on a GAAP and on an adjusted basis resulted primarily from a significantly lower effective tax rate for the fourth quarter due to actions taken in the quarter to reduce our tax rate in foreign jurisdictions and the impact of recently issued US tax legislation. I will cover the fourth quarter 2018 effective tax rate and the expected 2019 effective tax rate in my subsequent commentary.

Turning to Slide 14. Revenues for the calendar year of 2018 were 871.9 -- $879.1 million or 7% higher than 2017 due to organic growth of greater than 3%. Acquisitions added approximately 2% and favorable currency added an additional 2%. Organic growth resulted primarily from advanced mobility related applications in all of our business segments, mainly in EV/HEV and PES, as well as mass transit applications also in PES, mitigated by lower demand in telecom infrastructure applications in ACS.

Adjusted operating income for 2018 of a $138.9 million or 15.8% of revenues was a $11.1 million and 250 basis points lower than 2017 due primarily to the 2018 gross margin, being 340 basis points lower than 2017. The 2018 gross margin of 35.4% was negatively impacted by an unfavorable product mix, strategic investments to add capacity for the upcoming 5G ramp and multi-site qualifications in our ACS business. Operational challenges to add capacity and ramp new products in our PES business and incremental costs for integration of EMS acquisitions. Adjusted EPS per fully diluted share for 2018 of $5.77 was $0.01 higher than 2017 due to a decrease in the effective tax rate in 2018 to 20.7% from 39.5% in 2017.

Turning back to Q4 2018 revenues on Slide 15, our fourth quarter revenues decreased $4 million or 2% versus the third quarter of 2018. The decrease was primarily due to lower demand for products in our EMS business, including a lower seasonal demand for portable electronics as well as weaker demand in general industrial and automotive applications, consistent with the general slowdown experienced in December.

Our ACS revenues in Q4 were 1% higher than our Q3 revenues as we experienced a nice increase in aerospace and defense and 5G antenna applications, which offset a continued decline in our 4G infrastructure revenues. ACS's ADAS business was basically flat in Q4 compared to Q3, but we are seeing signs of a rebound in demand early in Q1 2019.

Our Q4 PES revenues increased 3% compared to Q3 due to strength in our rail business mitigated by a slowdown in our variable frequency drive demand. Our EV/HEV demand in our PES business continues to be robust, but our constrained capacity is limiting our near-term growth. As Bruce mentioned, we are adding capacities to support the high levels of demand and expect to bring the added capacity online beginning in Q2 and throughout the remainder of 2019. The stronger dollar in the fourth quarter compared to both the Renminbi and the Euro negatively impacted our consolidated revenues in Q4 by $2.1 million.

Turning to Slide 16, our gross margin for Q4 was $78.4 million or 35.2% of revenues. 30 basis points higher than our third quarter gross margin of $79.1 million or 34.9% of revenues. The increase in the gross margin percentage was due to an improvement in performance compared to the third quarter.

As we mentioned in the last quarter's earning call, the performance issues experienced by the Company related to structural and integration issues from acquisition in the EMS business, yield challenges from ramping new products in the PES business and increase in freight costs that expedite product shipments, all of which combined to detriment our gross margin by approximately 200 basis points.

We continue to aggressively address these challenges and anticipate increasing yields in PES as well as reducing the manufacturing site consolidation costs and optimizing certain infrastructure costs in EMS incrementally throughout 2019 with corresponding incremental improvements in gross margin.

We expect to achieve more meaningful margin expansion when the underutilized capacity in our ACS business is leveraged with the rollout of 5G applications beginning later in 2019. We did not make any incremental strategic investments that weighed on the gross margin in the fourth quarter as we continue to optimize past investments in anticipation of the 5G ramp and believe we are in good shape to execute on the anticipated increased volume in 2019.

Slide 17 details the change in adjusted EPS for Q4 2018 of a $1.67 per fully diluted share compared to adjusted EPS for Q3 2018 of a $1.42 per fully diluted share. The first column represents a difference in gross margin, which we discussed previously. SG&A and R&D expenses for Q4 2018 were each $1 million higher than the respective Q3 2018 expenses. The majority of the increased SG&A expenses were for professional services and the increased R&D spending was in support of new product initiatives. As a result, the adjusted operating profit for Q4 2018 was $35.6 million or 16% of revenues compared to $38.6 million or 17% of revenues for the third quarter of 2018.

Lastly, our significantly lower effective tax rate for Q4 2018 of 3.6% compared to 31% in Q3 2018 had a meaningful benefit to our adjusted diluted EPS for Q4. The decrease in the effective tax rate was due primarily to a lower foreign tax rate resulting from tax planning strategies implemented in foreign jurisdictions that came to fruition late in Q4, as well as the benefit from recently issued US tax legislation. The tax benefits realized in the fourth quarter were amplified as a total annual benefit realized from the tax planning strategies and the recently introduced -- recently issued US tax legislation was recognized in the fourth quarter.

A lower US statutory tax rate in the absence of the impact of a transition tax due to the 2017 US tax reform along with the execution of the tax planning strategies and application of the recently issued US tax legislation resulted in an effective tax rate for the calendar year 2018 of 20.7%, which included an approximately 600 basis point benefit for discrete tax items realized throughout calendar year 2018. In 2019, we expect to have an effective tax rate of 27% to 28% as our effective tax rate does not contemplate potential discrete items.

On Slide 18, between Bruce and me, we have sufficiently covered the revenue profiles of each of the business segments as well as the strategic and growth initiatives driving profitability for each of our segments. Turning to Slide 19, we ended 2018 with a cash position of $167.7 million, a decrease of $13.5 million for the -- from December 31st, 2017. At December 31st, 2018, the Company had $228.5 million of debt outstanding on its revolving credit facility.

In 2018, the Company spent $121.4 million on the Griswold and Isola asset acquisitions outlined in our third quarter call and $47.1 million on capital expenditures. The Company spent $25.3 million in pension and other post-retirement benefit contributions primarily in anticipation of the termination of certain plans and paid down $6.2 million of debt. To fund these expenditures, the Company borrowed an additional $102.5 million on its revolving credit facility and generated $66.8 million from operating activities, net of the pension and other post-retirement benefit contributions and an increase in working capital.

In 2018, excluding the $25.3 million for the pension and post-retirement related payments, working capital consumed $53.4 million. The use of cash from the increase in working capital was primarily due to an inventory increase of $19 million, mostly driven by plant consolidation initiatives and managing long lead time raw materials, an increase of $22.7 million for contract assets related to the change in revenue recognition and a decrease of $7.9 million in accounts payable and accrued liabilities related to the reduction in incentive compensation.

Taking a look at our Q1 2019 guidance on Slide 21. Revenues are estimated to be in the range of $220 million to $230 million. We are guiding gross margin at 35% to 36% for Q1, consistent with continued incremental improvement we mentioned in our gross margin comments. We guide GAAP EPS for Q1 in the range of $0.97 to a $1.12 per diluted share. On an adjusted basis, we guide fully diluted earnings in the range of a $1.25 to a $1.40 per diluted share. Guidance for capital spending for the year is in the range of $50 million to $60 million as we continue to add capacity for increasing demand for products serving 5G and EV/HEV applications. As we discussed earlier, the effective tax rate for the full year is expected to be 27% to 28%.

I will now turn the call back over to Bruce.

Bruce D. Hoechner -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Mike. This concludes our prepared remarks. So we'll now open the line for Q&A.

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Your first question comes from Craig Ellis with B. Riley FBR. Your line is open.

Craig Ellis -- B. Riley FBR -- Analyst

Thanks for taking the questions and congratulations on a strong finish to the year on the sales line. Gentlemen, you mentioned that there was some slowing in the month of December and that's understandable given some of the macro issues that we saw, but the clarification on that is, was that in any particular products segment or in any particular geography and you -- can you quantify how significant that was?

Bruce D. Hoechner -- President and Chief Executive Officer

How are doing, Craig? The -- it was really more in the -- I would say in the general industrial sectors, where we saw the fall off and that really is pretty much in the month of December. I think as we moved into January, we saw things relatively stabilized. So it was a bit of a few million miss in December versus what we had anticipated. But I think from what we've seen now in the first part of the year here things have sort of returned to what our expectations had been.

Craig Ellis -- B. Riley FBR -- Analyst

That's helpful. Thanks, Bruce. And then the first real question is on 5G. So it seems that from some of the details that you're providing, the content opportunity maybe a little bit bigger than I had earlier thought, I had thought that the content for 5G was going to be up 2x to 3x versus 4G, but it sounds like you may be seeing something that's a little bit larger than that 3x to 5x. Am I catching that, right and is the situation one where issue get closer to the real ramp you're seeing that the designs are including more of your content or how do I explain what seems to be an increase in content for Rogers as we approach the on-ramp to China 5G and that of other geographies?

Bruce D. Hoechner -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Right. So it is as the designs come in what we've seen is that, our materials are actually used in a greater amount. I'm actually going to ask Bob to comment on this, because...

Bob Daigle -- Senior Vice President and Chief Technology Officer

I think, Craig the big -- I think the big difference we're seeing and what we're now talking about in terms of the multiplier is driven by the level of MIMO that's being what we're hearing from customers in terms of what they're going to be deploying is more toward the 64 transceiver -- receiver level versus the speculation was that there maybe 16 by 16 and more 32 by 32 going out. So it's really the higher level of MIMO and the complexity and the material requirements associated with that are driving up the multiplier a bit.

And the other aspect, I think that's been positive for us, that really only became evident in December is the spectrum allocation for China Mobile which was -- we're typically looking at 3.5 gigahertz, now a fair amount of spectrum at 2.6 gigahertz and just the physics of that spectrum increased the board size as a bit as well.

Craig Ellis -- B. Riley FBR -- Analyst

That's really helpful. Thanks for that, Bob. And then just a follow-up to that before I move onto ADAS. With regard to the higher content, can you express your comfort with your existing capacity situation through 2020? Is it sufficient in communication infrastructure, do you think you'll need to be adding given the step up in content that you're seeing?

Bruce D. Hoechner -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Well as we've talked about, we've -- we purchased the Price Road, Chandler, Arizona facility just for this purpose. And we are now repurposing the machinery over there to ensure that we have even on some of the upside estimates capability certainly 2019, 2020 through 2021 and as we move through the next year or so, we will be assessing that the amount of the ramping of 5G and then we'll add as we see fit. But I think that acquisition really has put us in a very strong position out at least two years to three years in terms of demand.

Craig Ellis -- B. Riley FBR -- Analyst

Clear -- yep, clear message. Thanks, Bruce. And then the next question on revenue is ADAS. You correctly identified that issue is stemming from European regulatory issues last quarter. I wasn't clear if your sense is that that is fully resolved now or it were in intermediate stages and if it's the latter, when would you expect the inventory to have fully cleared in and for consumption to be matching demand back to you?

Bruce D. Hoechner -- President and Chief Executive Officer

So as we got through the final stages of the year, we started seeing ordering into January and February for ADAS and we now think we are back in balance, certainly on the inventory and the supply chain. And we believe we will be returning to those higher double-digit in the teens kind of growth rates in ADAS as we move through 2019.

So things are back in balance. Demand coming out of the situation in Germany seems to have righted itself. And so again, part of this, we have to remember is a penetration play, not necessarily just numbers of units that are getting produced. So even if there is a slight downturn what have you in automotive numbers, the penetration play still continues for us.

Craig Ellis -- B. Riley FBR -- Analyst

Got it. And I don't want to neglect you, Mike before I go back in the queue. On gross margin, it sounds like what you're saying is that, in the near-term, our gross margin expansion maybe a little less than the 50 basis points we talked about last quarter. But as you get mix benefits and is it correct to think that you think you could get some from 5G in the back half of the year, but then gross margins would potentially be expanding by 50 basis points per quarter or would it be better than that and we can still look at 50 basis points on average through the year? Thank you.

Michael M. Ludwig -- Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. So I think -- so just a couple of things. So first of all, on the 30 basis points. I think we're happy to see that, right get it moving in the right direction, but the pace of the improvement however, is probably little slower than what we had planned. But we are, I think, making headway and as we talked about and I think Bruce mentioned in his comments that the DSP -- the consolidation of the DSP into our Carol Stream facility should be completed in late Q2. So I think we'll see again some pickup there. And again, the challenges in the PES business, the acceleration of demand for the EV/HEV continues to challenge our scaling and yield of new products.

All that said, again, I think we feel good about the 30 basis points. But actually -- and I think even as we move into Q -- get through Q2 and into Q3, I think we'll see an acceleration of that such that we could actually see, I think well in the next first quarter maybe and second quarter, I think will be limited to 30 basis points to 50 basis points of incremental improvement. But I think as we get into the third quarter, I would think just from the improvements in performance, we could see something in the 50 basis points.

And then on top of that, we should get incremental benefit from the 5G as a result of, one, just a stronger standard margin on that, but also the utilization of the capacity that we put in place. So I think as we get into the third quarter and fourth quarter, we should see improvements in gross margin that should be better than the 50 basis points.

Craig Ellis -- B. Riley FBR -- Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Your next question comes from Dan Moore with CJS Securities. Your line is open.

Peter Lukas -- CJS Securities -- Analyst

Yes, hi it's Pete Lukas for Dan. Can you talk about -- a little bit about the pipeline for M&A opportunities, our valuations more or less reasonable than perhaps 12 months ago. And what's your confidence level in executing on the M&A portion of the long-term growth plan over the next say, 12 months?

Bruce D. Hoechner -- President and Chief Executive Officer

So as we've discussed, we have a very robust team in place looking at acquisitions across a number of different fronts. And it's hard to comment on when the execution will happen on some of these opportunities. Our assessment of multiples are pretty much where they've been over the last 12 months to 18 months. So we don't see any real change there. But our teams are working and we really at this point, don't have anything that we can report publicly.

Peter Lukas -- CJS Securities -- Analyst

Got you. And then just in terms of Huawei. Can you frame for us how big a customer they are? And are you seeing orders accelerated all for them or their board shops in terms of building inventories from key suppliers like Rogers? And also what type of impact in terms of revenue and growth would you expect if they were to be cut out of most major markets other than China?

Bruce D. Hoechner -- President and Chief Executive Officer

In terms of the size of Huawei, certainly a very important customer for our ECS business. But where the Corporation certainly less than 10% of revenue. We don't report specifically what our sales are to each customer. But as I said, it's an important customer. To answer the question regarding orders and moving forward, we see a lot -- we had a lot of dialog ongoing with a number of our customers, particularly folks in China and so there's a lot of, let's say, activity ongoing right now around ramping up, making sure that raw materials are available and that when the time comes, we are ready to execute against their needs.

And to answer your question regarding the effect on the Company, if things were cut off. I mean, that would be an effect, without a doubt and it is certainly something that the all suppliers would feel across the electronics world. So we believe that from the standpoint of our position, that our technology is relatively unique and that we are able to supply our folks and we have been able to really differentiate ourselves. If someone like Huawei was not able to produce, we are qualified by all the major OEMs. So that business if it went to another OEM, we would be able to get that.

Peter Lukas -- CJS Securities -- Analyst

Very helpful. Thanks. I'll jump back in the queue.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Bruce.

Bruce D. Hoechner -- President and Chief Executive Officer

All right. Well, that was a short Q&A session. Again, I think we are well positioned as we look through and toward 2019, our capacities are coming on stream, the demands are there and we believe Rogers is well positioned to take full advantage of the strong market indicators that we've talked about today. So again, thank you for your attention and have a good day.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

Duration: 40 minutes


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Bruce D. Hoechner -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Michael M. Ludwig -- Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Craig Ellis -- B. Riley FBR -- Analyst

Bob Daigle -- Senior Vice President and Chief Technology Officer

Peter Lukas -- CJS Securities -- Analyst

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