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Village Farms International Inc. (NASDAQ:VFF)
Q3 2019 Earnings Call
Nov 15, 2019, 8:30 a.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Village Farms International Third Quarter 2019 Financial Results Conference Call. Yesterday, after market close, Village Farms issued a news release reporting its financial results for the third quarter ended September 30, 2019. That news release, along with company's financial statements are available on SEDAR and on the company's website at villagefarms.com under the Investors heading.

Please note that today's call is being broadcast live over the Internet and will be archived for replay both by telephone and via the Internet beginning approximately one hour following completion of the call. Details of how to access the replays are available in yesterday's news release.

Before we begin, let me remind you that forward-looking statements may be made today, during or after the formal part of this conference call. Certain material assumptions were applied in providing these statements, many of which are beyond our control. These statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in forward-looking statements.

A summary of those underlying assumptions, risks and uncertainties is contained in our various securities filings, including Village Farms current annual information form for the year ended December 31, 2018, and MD&A for the quarter ended September 30, 2019, which are available on SEDAR. These forward-looking statements are made as of today's date and except as required by applicable securities law, we undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any such statements.

I would now like to turn the call over to Michael DeGiglio, Chief Executive Officer of Village Farms International. Please go ahead, Mr. DeGiglio.

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Casey, and thank you everyone for joining us on the telephone and the Internet today. With me for today's call, is Village Farms Chief Financial Officer, Stephen Ruffini. Agenda for today's call, I will start with a review of another quarter that continues to set Pure Sunfarms apart from its peers both operationally and financially. I'll provide an update on the progress of our U.S. hemp CBD initiatives, highlighted by the solid results from our first outdoor growing season. Steve will review our Q3 financial results in detail and I'll return to discuss why we are more confident in Village Farms' ability to capitalize on these new high growth opportunities in cannabis and CBD, and why 2020 and beyond holds so much promise for our company. And then we'll take some questions.

Q3 continues to showcase Pure Sunfarms as a best-in-class vertically integrated cannabis supplier. Pure Sunfarms continues to set the standard for operational performance, which was once again clear in its financial results. Let's get right to the numbers, which once again ranks Pure Sunfarms among the largest, most efficient and most profitable license producers. As a reminder, all of Pure Sunfarms numbers I will discuss here are before Village Farms' 50% share, and are in Canadian dollars.

So, net sales were CAD24 million and I remind you that the entirety of that sales figure are sales of cannabis product solely. I will also note, this amount does not include CAD7.2 million of that Pure Sunfarms invoice, but due to accounting rules was unable to recognized in Q3, because the customer, Emerald Health Therapeutics is disputing its liability on the terms of the supply agreement.

Gross margin was 69%, driven by what -- to our knowledge, [Phonetic] continues to be an industry low greenhouse cost of production, of just CAD0.63 a gram, down sequentially from CAD0.65 per gram in Q2. And I will note that Q3 numbers reflect higher seasonal electricity costs, as Pure Sunfarms started to use its supplemental lighting toward the end of the quarter, as well as some retail packaging costs in the last few weeks of the quarter, that were not incurred in Q2.

SG&A was 12% of sales. Net income before non-cash impact of a net change of CAD12.6 million for the change in value of the biological asset. In fact, this CAD12.6 million charge is the only reason Pure Sunfarms reported net loss in Q3, and otherwise would have resulted as fourth consecutive quarter of profitability.

EBITDA was CAD5 million, which translates into an EBITDA margin of 56%. Q3 marked Pure Sunfarms' fourth consecutive quarter of positive EBITDA. I think it's worth noting here that cumulative to yield in the past four quarters, since adult use cannabis was legalized and Pure Sunfarms started sales in earnest, it has generated CAD47 million in EBITDA with the Delta 3 facility being a production ramp-up for the majority of that period.

A little more detail on Q3 sales. Delta 3 reached the full run rate of 75,000 kilograms annually during Q3. Q3 sales were composed predominantly of sales to other LPs, as Pure Sunfarms began shipping to provincial distributors late September, following receipt of its packaging license earlier in the month of September. Pure Sunfarms adult use cannabis net sales of CAD24 million continues to rank it among the largest Canadian LPs, even with Q3 sales constrained by the shift in market dynamics over the last several months.

As been widely discussed, there has been an industrywide slowdown in sales growth, as new supply coming onstream has outpaced the expansion of the retail store infrastructure, as well as a mismatch of the actual products consumers want and those being offered. This supply bottleneck has also precipitated a decline in the spot price in the LP to LP market, which ultimately gave rise to the CAD7.2 million invoice to Emerald, which is in dispute, and therefore cannot be recognized in Q3. Steve will discuss this in more detail shortly.

Looking past these near term supply issues, the market is still massive, generating double-digit month over month sales increases and has multiple catalysts coming, that by even conservative estimates, could double or triple in size next year. We would spend this whole call debating future market projections and what will ultimately determine success for any company, will be its ability to consistently supply high quality, safe product and offer products that consumers really want and do so at the right price point. This is what Pure Sunfarms offers the customer. It is what will enable it to both capture meaningful market share within the Canadian legal market, but also position itself to compete against the larger, price sensitive and listed market with a high quality safe product. This value proposition, if done correctly, is the accelerant to the cannibalization of the illicit market by the legal market.

So, this brings me to the recent launch of Pure Sunfarms brand. With respect of its long-awaited packaging license in early September, Pure Sunfarms was finally able to launch its own branded products and begin sales to provincial distributors. First in Ontario, at the very end of the quarter and subsequent to the quarter end in British Columbia, which I will note, combined make up more than 50% of Canada's population.

Initial performance has exceeded our expectations. Pure Sunfarms' strategic positioning as the affordable luxury brand coined by Pure Sunfarms, of its high quality safe products that consumers really want, at a price point well below the other brands initially, was clearly resonating with consumers. Here are some of the early data points. Pure Sunfarms was the top selling dried flower brand in both kilograms sold and dollar value with the Ontario Cannabis Store in October, with a 16% market share, selling twice the volume of the second-ranked brand. It's high THC strain, Afghan Kush, was the top selling dried flower product within the OCS for the same period. And Pure Sunfarms had three of the top seven best-selling dried flower products in October. Importantly, Pure Sunfarms had multiple follow-on orders from Ontario throughout October and into November.

In British Columbia, although we don't have access to the same detailed data as we do for Ontario yet, I can tell you that Pure Sunfarms sold out its first order to the BC liquid distribution branch in under three weeks, securing a top 10 ranking by sales in that province in October. And that it is for all product categories, with Pure Sunfarms currently only selling dried flower products in British Columbia, BC has since restocked with multiple follow-on orders. This strong initial performance is not an accident, it is the product of Pure Sunfarms extensive market analysis, as well as the experience, insight and perspective that Mandesh Dosanjh, you will recall previously, headed up logistics and supply chain for OCS, and the rest of his leadership team, being at the table. And I would again like to congratulate Mandesh and his entire team at Pure Sunfarms yet another success and well done. Pure Sunfarms product positioning is something that is uniquely able to do, as a result of his exceptional cultural foundation and his low-cost production. Again, that number was CAD0.63 a gram, all-in, in Q3.

This recent price pressure -- the recent price pressures now more than ever, underscore that being a low-cost producer of high quality safe cannabis, with consistent supply, as well as innovation for future product development, will be a significant advantage to Pure Sunfarms and Village Farms. There will continue to be pressure on market pricing and regardless, market pricing must come down, if the legal market is to woo customers from the illicit market. Pure Sunfarms is very well positioned to capture market share, and be very profitable in this environment.

Looking ahead, Pure Sunfarms has multiple value-driving milestones to build the success and momentum. With leading market share -- we expect Pure Sunfarms to benefit, as provinces, especially Ontario significantly expand the number of retail stores going into 2020. Moreover, Pure Sunfarms is pursuing additional supply agreements beyond Ontario and British Columbia, focusing on those provinces, with the highest sales first. It is also preparing for the launch of its next product offerings, pre-rolled dried products in the near term and Pure Sunfarms is well advantaged in its advancement, in the planning for oil products, as well as new product forms on the cannabis 2.0.

As it did with the initial product launch, Pure Sunfarms is approaching the 2.0 market knowledgably, strategically, prudently and thoughtfully. Patient has proved to be a real advantage so far, as you can see by the OCS performance. For competitive reasons we'll will stay pretty tight-lipped around specific plans for now. But you can be assured that Pure Sunfarms plans to fully participate in this opportunity, with product launches targeted from the first half of next year, leveraging our brand success with dried flower. To that end, Pure Sunfarms is nearing completion of its new 65,000 square foot state-of-the-art processing center within the Delta 3 facility, which has been designed for full GMP compliance and certification. And I will note that this was an CAD18 million investment entirely funded internally by Pure Sunfarms' cash flow.

Within this processing center Pure Sunfarms recently finished installation of extraction equipment capable of processing initially 35,000 kilograms of biomass annually. We expect it to be operational by the second quarter of next year, subject of course to Health Canada licensing and our own testing and calibration.

With recent market developments, we believe now more than ever that the cannabis market is moving toward an industry that will be dominated by a handful of large players that will take the majority of market share. And large players by sales, not by market cap. Accordingly, Pure Sunfarms continues to progress on a conversion of its 1.1 million square foot Delta 2 facility, which will considerably double annual production, to a 150,000 kilos, and support its low cost participate [Phonetic].

We began work on the exterior in the summer and are now working internally, and we remain on schedule within production in Q2 of 2020 ramping to full production by the end of next year. Pure Sunfarms has already submitted the application for the initial cultivation license for D2 to the Health Canada. D2 is being designed for full GMP certification and compliance to allow for potential export in the future. And I'll remind you, that D2 does not require any Village Farms capital to complete this conversion.

So all in all, for Pure Sunfarms, Q3 was another quarter Pure Sunfarms continued to set itself apart from its peers, both operationally and financially. As I mentioned earlier, it firmly positions Pure Sunfarms continued market leadership as the Canadian market is poised for step function growth over the next 12 to 24 months.

Moving to the U.S. hemp with CBD; now turning to this program, as we did in Canada with Pure Sunfarms, we're building a rock-solid foundation of exceptional grow our operations, upon which we can and will build a vertically integrated business, and exceptional brand for long-term success of the CBD market. In our outdoor hemp program, very pleased to report that our first growing season has been a solid success. We've just completed harvesting inflow [Phontetic] of 625 acres, average yield of these 625 acres was 1,600 pounds per acre of separated material, that is milled flower, that has been separated from the stocks.

This was well in excess of our projections, resulting in a total of approximately 1 million total pounds of separated material. Success is a testament to the deep experience of our great JV partners, as well as the exceptional roster of growers with whom we were able to contract through their extensive network. We expect to begin sales of biomass as early as this quarter. These results are even more encouraging, given that the certain aspects of the 2019 season were experimental. The science around growing hemp is very much in its early days and as a result of prior legal status. Importantly, our first growing season -- but has provided tremendous learning that will be invaluable in our future growth. All of this sets up very well, as we look to expand in higher margin downstream products.

In our controlled environment of greenhouse program, we are being prudent as always in curtailing our capital spend as a regulatory environment, with multiple agencies at both the federal and state levels continue to sort itself out. We are not going to make any big dollar decisions on matters out of our control, until we have much more clarity. This approach has clearly benefited Pure Sunfarms in Canada, as our brand and product performance there is proving, and it's not about being first.

We continue to do work with the Texas Department of Agriculture on the implementation of its hemp regulatory framework, subject to its rules, and we'll be ready to submit our licensing requirement, as soon as we are permitted to, which is currently not known. We are very active in moving forward in R&D in a number of areas, including genetics seed development and advanced growing techniques for plant health, IP will be a critical success in this market.

As with Pure Sunfarms; looking out to 2020, we see multiple opportunities to drive growth in revenue and profitability, through advancements in our hemp CBD business, as we aggressively pursue our objective to launch products in 2020.

A few words on produce, before I turn the call over to Steve. As you have heard me discuss before, we have not -- would not have been able to achieve anything that we have thus far, or anything we plan to achieve in the quarters and the years to come, without the underlying institutional knowledge, capabilities and infrastructure of our produce business, amassed over many decades. Pivoting from the top greenhouse grown produce business in North America, taking everything we know, all of our capabilities and deeply experienced people and extending that beyond produce to become a new vertical, CBD, we have a strategy in place to grow from our produce business and returning to its long-term sustainable positive EBITDA generation.

We continue to make steady progress in the transition of production displays for cannabis and hemp production to third party growing partners. This allows us to drive revenue higher, while maintaining costs and mitigating the agriculture risk that can negatively impact our produce results. We have recently added 125 acres in this regard, 75 in Mexico and 50 in Canada, to bring our total partner acreage to just under 300 acres.

During this period of transition, we will continue to experience some impact on our financial results, more so in some quarters than others, which in the third quarter contribute to a net loss in the produce business of approximately CAD5 million. So as much as I am excited for the growth that will be driven by cannabis and CBD, I'm also thrilled for the potential of a legacy produce business.

I'd like to turn the call over to Steve to walk through the financial results in detail. Steve, go ahead.

Stephen C. Ruffini -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thanks Mike. I'll break my comments down by business line and touch on some corporate matters, rather than just regurgitate statutory figures, which everyone can read on their own. First cannabis is a subject that everybody wants to hear about. Pure Sunfarms continues to demonstrate strong financial results. For the fourth quarter in a row, Pure Sunfarms sold approximately 12,000 kilograms in Q3 of bud and trim, with net sales of CAD24 million, for an average price of around CAD2 per gram combining flower and trim for what was in the second quarter of 2019, a CAD4 per gram wholesale flower market.

Q3 did have more trim sales than Q2. Those sales were to extraction customers at attractive prices. Sales to provincial government started very late in Q3, and were roughly 10% of the quarterly sales for Q3. Pure Sunfarms generated a 69% gross margin in Q3, as it continues to lower its cost of production. As Mike mentioned, all-in costs of CAD0.63 per gram, $0.47 per gram U.S. Pure Sunfarms produced approximately thousand 17,000 kilos in the quarter. With the last few [Indecipherable] not starting till mid late July, it is producing at the expected annual run rate of 75,000 kilos per annum. Note, this is not -- this is farming, this is not a linear figure. It is farming to light levels, planning cycles, varieties grown and will fluctuate our production between quarters. We -- as Mike said in prior comments, we look at these greenhouses on an annual basis, but we're very confident with their 75,000 kilos annual run rate for Delta 3.

As reported previously, the cost of production of Pure Sunfarms in all greenhouse producers in Canada will increase in the winter months, due to the use of artificial lights, systems versus summer production. But as we've also previously stated, economies of scale matter, Pure Sunfarms expects it's all in production costs to be 20% to 25% higher this winter versus the last two summer quarters, where we had 55% and 63% -- I'm sorry, CAD0.55 and CAD0.63 per gram, which will be substantially lower than last winter, when we reported in Q1 of this year, a cost per gram of CAD1.35 per gram.

This is driven not only by the economies of scale, since we are growing in all our 16 growers this winter and we're essentially growing three or four last winter, but also an application of our years of years of growing experience and applying that to learnings on our new crop candidates. We are experiencing year-on-year, better results in our nursery, yields in our grower rooms and improved labor efficiencies already. The reason Pure Sunfarms is showing a net loss of CAD2.4 million or $1.8 million for the quarter, solely due to the IFRS accounting treatment of involving bio asset, which most of you have heard me talk about before, it is required accounting estimate for all companies with ag assets. I want to stress Pure Sunfarms has not experienced any inventory price concessions, no returned product or written down any inventory.

While IFRS' accounting treatment of bio assets may make sense for a wine grower, who has a multi-year crop in the form of a -- like a grapevine, it makes no sense for growers of annual crops, like Village Farms has said for years, on our tomatoes, and really makes no sense for our cannabis grower, who essentially has a crop cycle of less than one quarter. All its really doing from an accounting perspective, is moving around the gross profit or gross loss of an ag company between reporting quarters. Unfortunately IFRS is not optional. For the treatment, I should say the treatment of a bio asset under IFRS is not optional.

For example, Pure Sunfarms reported a bio asset on June 30th for over CAD36 million. Based on what it had growing in the greenhouse at that time and the market's gross margin at that time. Pure Sunfarms reported a bio asset of CAD24 million on September 30th. As such, the net income impact between quarters is significant. In Q2, Pure Sunfarms picked up income of CAD20 million on its change in bio asset from Q1. In Q3, Pure Sunfarms had to take an accounting charge of CAD13 million, for a whopping difference between quarters of CAD33 million quarter-on-quarter. If one were to break that down into U.S. dollar, tax effect and take half of it, which is Village Farms' 50%, results in a quarter-on-quarter's swing and impact on earnings per share of over CAD0.30 per share. All due to essentially debits and credits.

The best indication of Pure Sunfarms' positive results are it's positive EBITDA for each quarter. Pure Sunfarms reported an EBITDA of CAD13.3 million, $10.1 million, for a 56% EBITDA margin for Q3, and a year-to-date EBITDA of CAD47.1 million, $35.5 million, for an EBITDA margin of 67%.

Fortunately for Village Farms, with its required switched to U.S. GAAP, which I'll discuss in a bit. The change to bio asset is a thing of the past. In all future years and all future quarters, we will be reporting pursuant to U.S. GAAP. Management's estimate of Pure Sunfarms U.S. GAAP is positive net income for every quarter in 2019. Note that EBITDA under IFRS or U.S. GAAP is the same, as neither Village Farms or Pure Sunfarms include the accounting swings of its change in bio assets in EBITDA, as it is a non-cash item.

Mike has covered hemp. Really from an accounting perspective, there is nothing in our financials with respect to hemp. There are some bio assets in that asset as well, but they're fairly immaterial. Information that is in our MD&A.

Moving on to produce; Village Farms traditional longtime business that nothing to talk or hear about, but it's important to discuss in this call. As Mike mentioned, produce is in a transition period, both due to our pivot and alternative crops in Canada, and the preparation. Hopefully, at some point in time for new crops in Texas, as well as some production issues at our Texas facilities, we have experienced lower than historical yields at our Texas facilities, which creates a double whammy on our produce gross margin, particularly in this quarter. As less yields hits our topline revenues, as well as less tomatoes, means higher cost per pound, as most of our greenhouse costs are fixed. So we're spreading those costs over fewer pounds produced.

The third quarter was particularly challenging as we made the tough decision to end one of our Texas crops early, and start a new crop in a narrow window of time this late summer, so we could have a strong crop going into the winter months, which made our pricing historically stronger. Management is keenly aware of our produce issues and is actively lowering input costs, changing crop mixes to improve operating efficiencies and returning our Texas crops to historical levels. And as Mike mentioned, significantly increasing our third party produce volumes, which will improve capacity usage throughout our company. We continue to deliver top quality produce to all our big box retail customers in the U.S. and Canada.

Moving on to a few corporate matters; our SG&A, excluding stock comp, which is solely driven by stock option accounting. Our SG&A increased by just under CAD300,000 in Q3, 2019 over Q3 of 2018 for a 9% increase, due to our listing on NASDAQ and our loss of our foreign private issuer status in 2019, effective on January 1, 2020, we have to be fully compliant with all SEC rules and regulations, like the infamous SOX. As such our back office has been rather busy as we all -- as well as external legal counsel and accounting firms reviewing our bylaws, charters, operating SOPs and policies to ensure we are in full compliance and adherence with our new U.S. SEC rules of reporting starting in 2020. I'm happy to report that all is going well and we expect to be fully compliant on or before January 1, 2020. But unfortunately, all of this transition costs money. Hence, we have had an increase in our year-on-year professional fees as noted in our footnotes and MD&A.

Village Farms will file a Form 10-K in March and along with that, we will refile all our 2018 and 2019 historical results reconfigured to U.S. GAAP from our current IFRS.

One last point; on the corporate matters, our cash position is in good shape. We did an equity raise in October of CAD28 million, roughly $22 million, with no substantive large CapEx. In the foreseeable future, we're in good standing from a cash basis going forward, especially with Pure Sunfarms generating its own cash flow.

With that, I'll turn the call back over to Mike.

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks Steve. So in closing, let me just say that we appreciate that this is a volatile period for the Canadian cannabis industry. We knew the market challenges would come. We clearly knew it from day one. The crash has come a little sooner than expected. But we built Pure Sunfarms for good times, but planned for the tough time, and Pure Sunfarms continues to execute exceptionally well, and what is under its control, low cost production alongside powerful brand positioning, high quality safe products that are in demand at an attractive price point. This has and will continue to serve us very well, as we navigate the choppy waters in the Canadian market, and now enter the U.S. CBD market, which may experience similar growing pains in the coming years. It's not anything we haven't seen before and it's not anything we haven't done before. Another benefit of our more than 30 years of experience.

We are moving forward, but remain prudent and thoughtful, as we pursue all of our opportunities, mindful of long-term sustainable profitability, as the market develops and matures into a multi-billion dollar industry, and likely takes on the illicit market. With Pure Sunfarms self sufficient and self-funding situation. Village Farms management team is focused on this next opportunity, which is the CBD market in the U.S. and beyond. We're off to a great start and look forward to reporting on our progress, which we will not only expect to drive shareholder value for years to come, but also, firmly position ourselves for the Holy Grail, which we consider the federal legalization of cannabis in the U.S. in the future.

So with that, I'd like to open it up to a few questions. Operator?

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. And your first question here comes from the line of Doug Cooper with Beacon Securities. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Doug Cooper -- Beacon Securities -- Analyst

Hi, good morning, Mike and Steve and congratulations on a tough environment. Good quarter. A couple of things first come to mind, what's the dispute mechanism with Emerald for that CAD7.2 million?

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Doug, everything we have to say in the Emerald subject is in the press release, and we're just going to leave it at that, at this point.

Doug Cooper -- Beacon Securities -- Analyst

Okay. Second question, just I guess looking into Q4, can you talk a little bit about the expectations in volume and pricing both in --- in Canada. And then maybe Mike, you can touch upon the current biomass pricing for the hemp in the U.S.?

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

While in Q4, I think on the retail side, segregating the retail side, I think we just established that price point last month, and I think that we're pretty well continue through the fourth quarter. On the wholesale side, I think that's yet to be determined, because what appears to be happening more and more, is that it's very weighted toward the end of the quarter, as far as purchasing. Also I think probably similar in my opinion, to what we saw in the third quarter, and I think that will start revealing itself some time in December. Obviously it's a race between the buyers and the sellers, and they all know that everybody wants to make their quarterly numbers. So wait till the last result and then see who flinches, and that will set the pace, at least through weathering these choppy waters. And I think eventually, 2020, we will get through that and find balance. But I think we're looking at another quarter similar to the third quarter.

Operator

And your next question here comes from the line...

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Let me just finish. I'm sorry. On the CBD side. So on the CBD side, there has been price compression, very rapidly. I mean for this year, since legalization last December, everyone has rather sort of jumped in the market. People who have never grown an agricultural crop before, there are so many growers out there, they didn't even know how to dry. So it's just sort of a gold rush and we've seen price compression since April through October, depending on quantities upwards of 45%. So I think there'll be some significant price compression into the new year on the CBD side.

Operator

And your next question here comes from the line of Andrew Partheniou from GMP Securities. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Andrew Partheniou -- GMP Securities -- Analyst

Thanks and congrats on the impressive performance so far in rec. I wanted to ask a little bit about your post harvesting area. You mentioned that you're going to be launching pre-rolls very soon, and I think you've already launched a new strain in the market as well recently. What can we expect in terms of new strains or potentially differently processed products, hand trimmed products that may carry different pricing?

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, I think it's -- Andrew, thank you for your comments. And I mentioned in the call, that we're going to be somewhat tight-lipped on what our innovation is. But innovation clearly as part of going forward. There has been a lot accomplished this year, including this build-out of this certified -- GMP certified extraction area, and we have a lot of plans also on Delta 2 to do some very unique things there, that we're not ready to put out. So I think the innovation is going to drive it. But I think the prudent approach that the Pure Sunfarms leadership is taking is not to rush into it. As I mentioned looking more second, third quarter.

But strain development is a huge undertaking, and I think personally, I'm impressed with what they've accomplished with the amount of strange -- not only putting strains out, different strains that people want, and that's evident by the market share dominance that they've shown early on. So I think that will continue.

Andrew Partheniou -- GMP Securities -- Analyst

Thanks. And on another note, I believe your JV partner still requires some capital to contribute in Delta 2 building it out. As of Q2, I think that was somewhere around CAD17 million. Just wondering if you could provide an update on that?

Stephen C. Ruffini -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Our that is an ongoing equity contribution on Emerald's part and that -- we will just leave it at that, at this moment.

Operator

Your next question here comes from the line of Scott Fortune with Roth Capital. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Scott Fortune -- Roth Capital Partners -- Analyst

Good morning and thanks for the call. Real quick follow-up on the Emerald Health allocation moving forward. So 4Q, you don't expect Emerald Health to take any further allocation here?

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

I don't think so. They haven't taken any at all in the second quarter to speak of -- I'm sorry, in the third quarter. So, so far in the fourth quarter, zero. So -- I can't speak for them, but I think just based on what we've seen, it doesn't appear they will take any of the allocation.

Scott Fortune -- Roth Capital Partners -- Analyst

Okay. And then follow up on category segmentation at the province side of things. They're selling at a good, better kind of a best price level. Where is the strength and where you're some of the competitors are now announcing more value offerings at the provincial brand side of things, where are you seeing your strength on the Ontario in October that you highlighted there? As far as the easy segmentation from the category side of things?

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, I think you know as we said, it's sort of a four-legged stool, in a way, it's a value proposition that you know, the management team, coining [Phonetic] their strategy was affordable luxury. But it doesn't matter what the price is, if you don't have what consumers want. So I think this four pronged approach of clearly high quality product, that's safe and strains that the market wants and we're talking about the customer that's been a user, of adult use for many, many years, very knowledgeable customer base. And having strains that they want and then finally, at a price point that resonates well with them. And I think that is, -- that whole package of our value proposition is where you really need to be, and pricing plays into that, because the pricing has more or less been established for decades on the illicit trade.

You know the illicit trade is a very large market. It's an existing large market. So I don't think its all about building the market, it's just cannibalizing it from the illicit side to the legal side. And pricing plays into that and I think the management team at Pure Sunfarms is very clear and steadfast on what they need to do going forward. And again, that's why we always talk being a low-cost producer, but not at the sake of quality of brand that all plays into equally. You have to have the whole program, but pricing will determine how quick -- along with the roll-out of additional stores and so on. But pricing plays that well, because illicit traders, they set that bar early.

Operator

Your next question here comes from the line of Aaron Grey with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Aaron Grey -- Alliance Global Partners -- Analyst

Good morning and thanks for the question. First question I have is just on the wholesale market and pricing. Can you dig a little bit deeper in terms of price per gram in the quarter. Are you seeing different kind of pricing between the trim and then also within the flower, where they are not high or low THC? So we can kind of give a breakdown, kind of, between those, also in terms of mix and how to expect that kind of ranging going forward? Thank you.

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks for the question Aaron. For commercial reasons, obviously, we're not going to break -- we don't break that down. Yes, there is a range. There is a wide range of tomato pricing, there's a wide range with the cannabis pricing based on demand, based on contractual agreements with provincial governments and it does vary by variety based on THC or Pure Sunfarms also has a high CBD strain that is doing well. And there is a difference between flower pricing and trim pricing. But we're knowingly not going to break that down, because it's commercially sensitive information.

Aaron Grey -- Alliance Global Partners -- Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks. I appreciate that. And then just on volume, 12,000 kilograms for the quarter. You mentioned also whole flower and trim, a little bit more trim this quarter. How best to think about I guess that volume as we go forward? Do you feel like at least that mix between flower and trim will hold, or you can get more increase toward flower? And how we should think about overall volume sales relative to -- not just the full run rate of 75,000 kilograms annual for the year -- for the Delta facility that's now in full production. Thanks.

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Predominantly our production is flower, and that figure that I gave you, is a strong predominance of that. With respect to trim sales, it was opportunistic, extraction companies like trim. And ultimately, some of it will change, obviously we'll start taking that trim ourselves, putting it through our own extraction on a go-forward basis. So the mix of flower and trim -- certainly in 2020, we will have a mixture of flower trim oils. Pre-rolls will start this quarter. So it will all get mixed in.

Operator

And your next question here comes from the line of Eric Des Lauriers with Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Eric Des Lauriers -- Craig-Hallum -- Analyst

All right, great. Thank you for taking my questions guys. I wanted to try one more on the wholesale pricing. So clearly, looking like -- or expecting similar results in Q4 compared to Q3, as it relates to wholesale pricing. I'm wondering as we look out to maybe 2020 and beyond, where you guys see spot prices, maybe finding equilibrium already below cost of a number of other LPs, would just love to hear your thoughts, as we look out beyond Q4? Thanks.

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, I think a lot of -- not just other LPs, but extractors at some point will decide more, who they want to buy from, based on quality of strains that are there. I think, today there is so much -- there's a lot of choppy water out there. So everybody's negotiating without necessarily indicating, who their preferred supplier is, based on the strains and quality that they have. But I think that's going to start to separate in 2020. As I said, the fourth quarter may be reminiscent of the third quarter, but I think there is that break out, and there is a lot of quality out there that other LPs really don't want, and certainly extractors don't, but I think they all use that in the negotiation of pricing right now, because of the way the market is. The roll out is just too slow on the retail side, so there is a backup on that.

But I think that's going to separate, and it may even -- eventually firm up wholesale pricing going into 2020. So it's just a matter of getting through this time and I think there is going to be a compression of the amount of suppliers in the marketplace. I think that's inevitable going forward. And we'll see who emerges as the dominant suppliers in the marketplace.

So I decided to look forward to 2020. As I said, we have always planned for the best. We hope for the best and plan for the worst, and we always look that there would be price compression. Did not think it would happen quite as quick, but it is what it is, and that's why being a low-cost producer is very important. Among the other attributes you have. You have to weather the storm and that's why we shot for profitability day one, to have positive cash flow to weather times like this.

So we'll see what the wholesale shakes up in 2020. But I think it's yet to be determined for the fourth quarter. I think if you look at cash flow generation on the quarter-to-quarter, you see it's very weighted toward the end of the quarter. So that's where a lot of the sales start to occur and that will happen here in December.

Eric Des Lauriers -- Craig-Hallum -- Analyst

That makes sense. I appreciate the color there, and then maybe just one follow-up. Wondering if you can provide some -- maybe just some anecdotal commentary on the willingness of provinces to sign more supply agreements, given the elevated inventory levels, introduction of cannabis 2.0 products. Any comments on Alberta specifically would be great. Thanks.

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

I think that's a forthcoming standby of that, and as we said the team there has surgically decided where they wanted to go first, second, third, and I think you're right on, with that guess. And it's just really being run by the population and the amount of penetration that's available through the retail side, and I think, Alberta, clearly is way up there on top of the echelon.

But I think there is a lot of -- I think like any other customer, it's what strains can I get, that the consumers want, because they want to drive sales as well, and I think that's where Pure Sunfarms has already demonstrated success with two of the initial provinces. And again, this just all started basically in September. So pretty massive. So I think standby on that, and I think you'll see some news coming.

Operator

And your next question here comes from the line of Rahul Sarugaser from Raymond James. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Rahul Sarugaser -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Great, thank you. Good morning, Mike and Steve. Thanks so much for taking our questions. Congratulations on the quarter. I mean just going to reiterate my counterparts, it is rough waters out there. So coming back to the wholesale market, and the -- particularly outdoor grow that's starting to come online. How are you sort of positioning yourself to compete in that market, particularly as outdoor grow, which is being -- we're just starting to see numbers at sort of CAD0.05 to CAD0.10 per gram level, coming on to market.

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Are you talking specifically in Canada?

Rahul Sarugaser -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Correct.

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Well I haven't seen anybody document CAD0.05 a gram, and I think most of the outdoor grows I've heard of, have not been successful. Maybe I'm missing something there. But I'm really not that concerned with it. Based on my experience, outdoor growth, I think in Canada the latitudes they are at, they've had a place in the illicit trade, but I think ultimately technology -- ag technology will be the dividing force. And I think where we are today on our value proposition, which includes pricing and you're looking at our cost, we think we can continue to drive that cost down. So its just not about costs out of the field, and honestly the amount of -- without having any tools available in this industry, in terms of what you can do to steer the crop and mitigate infection, virus and vectors from insects that cause disease, the pressures and the stresses on the plants and now to our environment. I'm not sure if those numbers that are realistic at all. Honestly, I am just not that concerned with it long-term.

Rahul Sarugaser -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Okay, fair enough. And then just a follow-up question then. In terms of the cost of goods you've been talking about U.S. $0.48, Canadian CAD0.63, of course, you recognize that that will vary based on seasonality. And also, recognize that Stephen particularly, you always make sure to put in depreciation, whereas a lot of the market is also is publishing numbers that illustrate cash cost production. Are you planning on at any point, disclosing those numbers?

Stephen C. Ruffini -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Well, our cash cost is lower, we'll say that. But excluding depreciation is just fundamentally wrong in our view. I mean the cost of capital in high tech, agricultural growing should be included in once cost of goods sold and not buried below some income line or in SG&A or something like that. It is a cost of production, and it should be included. Yes, our cash costs are higher and that has indicated, obviously one can figure out depreciation charges and if you want, by looking at our cash flow statement, which does describe depreciation and amortization. So you can figure it out, if you want to. But fundamentally, we think it should be included and that's why we stated, our all in cost includes depreciation at CAD0.63 per gram for the quarter.

Operator

And your next question here comes from the line of Stefan Mykytiuk with Grays Lane Capital. Please go ahead, your line is now open.

Stefan Mykytiuk -- Grays Lane Capital -- Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Two questions, I guess. the first off, the CAD2 a gram of average price, that's obviously being deemed by the CAD7.2 million of revenue you couldn't recognize, do I have that right.

Stephen C. Ruffini -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Well, we take the grams sold, the 12,000 kilograms divided into the 24. And yes, we could not recognize the CAD7.2 million.

Stefan Mykytiuk -- Grays Lane Capital -- Analyst

Right. So it's roughly CAD260 million, if that had been recognized as revenue. I just want to make sure I got that right? Okay.

Stephen C. Ruffini -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes.

Unidentified Participant

And then Steve, you said -- I think you said roughly 10% of volume in Q3 was sold direct and it was only a couple of weeks, given the success that you're having in BC and in Ontario, what do you think that direct mix could be in Q4 then?

Stephen C. Ruffini -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Well, my answer to that question, which [Indecipherable] you tell me how many stores are going to be open, and I can back into the number. We are starting to get -- Ontario in particular does give us good sell through data. So you can start doing the math, which will be helpful going forward. But the fundamental issue that everyone is facing, is just the number of stores. So I know there is plans to open. I think BC right now has 15 stores active, plus or minus, and has issued 90-retail licenses. So depending on how fast those stores get up, obviously I expect it to be improved in a higher percentage in Q4 versus Q3. But you know what, the final percentage is, I just don't know, because I just don't know the number of stores. Nobody does.

Operator

And I'm showing no further questions in queue at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Michael DeGiglio for any closing remarks.

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, thank you everybody for participating. As I said, its choppy waters right now in Canada, but we are bullish about the long term, and we look forward to transitioning to GAAP starting January 1st, reporting in March going forward on our progress, both in Canada and the U.S. And thank you for sharing in the time with Village Farms. Look forward to talking to you next time.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks].

Duration: 52 minutes

Call participants:

Michael A. DeGiglio -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Stephen C. Ruffini -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Doug Cooper -- Beacon Securities -- Analyst

Andrew Partheniou -- GMP Securities -- Analyst

Scott Fortune -- Roth Capital Partners -- Analyst

Aaron Grey -- Alliance Global Partners -- Analyst

Eric Des Lauriers -- Craig-Hallum -- Analyst

Rahul Sarugaser -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Stefan Mykytiuk -- Grays Lane Capital -- Analyst

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