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Kindred Biosciences (KIN)
Q4 2019 Earnings Call
Mar 16, 2020, 4:30 p.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:


Operator

Welcome to the fourth-quarter and full-year 2019 financial results conference call and webcast for Kindred Biosciences. [Operator instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. [Operator instructions] Please note that the remarks today will include forward-looking statements and the actual results could differ materially from those projected or implied in our forward-looking statements. For a description of important factors that could cause actual results to differ, we refer you to the forward-looking statements in today's press release and the note on forward-looking statements in the company's SEC filings.

It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to KindredBio's CEO, Richard Chin. Dr. Chin, please proceed.

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and welcome to our year-end 2019 financial results call. Joining me today from the management team of KindredBio are Denise Bevers, our president and COO; Wendy Wee, our CFO; and Katja Buhrer, our VP of corporate development and investor relations. 2019 was an extremely successful year with two approvals, multiple positive pilot studies, the commencement of two pivotal studies, as well as the development of our half-life extension technology.

We're very proud of the progress we made last year. Today, we're very pleased to announce the transformative transaction of Mirataz. We have agreed to sell Mirataz to Dechra in exchange for $43 million upfront payment and global royalties. We're excited about this partnership which places Mirataz in the hands of a global leader in the veterinary industry.

We anticipate that Mirataz's growth will accelerate with this and that we will stand to reap financial rewards from this great medication in the years to come. There was an intense interest in the rights to Mirataz for multiple parties. The size of this transaction validates the value we're creating. Given that it costs us approximately $5 million to develop Mirataz, this will be an excellent return for us.

Concurrent with this transaction, we will be reducing our commercial footprint. It has become clear that even with an excellent commercial organization with top people from the industry, we just didn't have the scale necessary to maximize the potential for Mirataz. When we decided to launch Mirataz, we did it based on data. We had extensive market research data that indicated self-commercialization was the right decision.

And while Mirataz has done extremely well, given the economics, we're now able to get for it, it made commercial sense to find a partner. We believe part of good management is the ability and willingness to pivot when circumstances and data change, and we are doing that today. It's a gut-ranching action, but as a management team, we're taking that necessary step. We anticipate that we will look for larger commercial partners for our products going forward and hue more closely to the human biotech model, where smaller companies partner with larger companies for the majority of drugs.

It's a successfully validated model that we expect to replicate. By downsizing our commercial organization and partnering with products, we expect substantially diminished requirement for additional dilutive capital, and we believe we will maximize value creation for our shareholders. In parallel, we have been in extensive discussions with potential partners on our IL-31 antibody. We believe that we will have an attractive transaction on that molecule as well, given the high level of interest that other companies have shown on that asset.

I should note, though, that IL-31 is at a much earlier stage than Mirataz, though we believe it has greater commercial potential, so the upfront payment is going to reflect that reality. The value of assets climbed exponentially after approval as compared to before approval. Now turning to our pipeline, we have had seven positive pilot programs in a row from a biological pipeline. In addition, we are investing efforts to advance new antibodies, incorporating the exciting half-life technology that we recently announced.

We can't advance all of our candidates, and therefore, have to prioritize the most promising candidates. So while our small molecule candidates are very attractive and while our equine candidates are tremendously exciting, we have decided to prioritize biologics programs for dogs and cats. We have great molecules, and we have even greater molecules, so we're going to focus on the even greater molecules, molecules like IL-31, IL-4R or SINK, epoCat, parvovirus and so on, the molecules that have the greatest blockbuster potential to maximize returns. I should note that these programs are progressing very well.

We are on track for approval of parvovirus by end of this year or early next year, as we've said before, and other programs continued to look very promising, as Denise will further discuss. For the equine molecules, we believe there is a potential equine-only business that can be very appealing. We are, therefore, studying ways that we could potentially fund those assets separately and/or spin-off the equine business. We plan to come to a decision on that in the near future.

So we will be restructuring our workforce, which, obviously, we hate to do, but it's in the best interest of the business. This does not mean we will stop adding talent in the areas of focus. We are adjusting our workforce to align with the prioritization, and we will continue to invest, albeit, carefully. Financially, we will be very prudent.

Excluding our onetime restructuring charge, our OPEX for this year will decrease, and by next quarter, the run rate for OPEX will drop significantly to approximately $54 million per year. We will achieve our goal of turning OPEX around this year. So to summarize, we have now validated the fact that we can monetize assets very profitably and that there is a great demand for innovative products, especially after they have been derisked. We have multiple products that we expect could have an order of magnitude greater potential than Mirataz, and we're within one to three years of approval on those products.

We have stepped back from spending a substantial sum on commercialization efforts, and this will allow us to reduce dependence on dilutive financing. We have more products in our pipeline than we can pursue, so we're prioritizing those that are the most promising. We have a proven team that has demonstrated that we can execute with two U.S. approvals and EU approval.

We're hitting on all cylinders, and we look forward to another successful year. With that, let me turn the call over to Denise.

Denise Bevers -- President and Chief Operating Officer

Thank you, Richard. When Richard and I first discussed starting a company, developing innovative medicines for our pet family members, and a number of you on this call will recall me recounting this story, we agreed that biologics would need to be essential to our approach. In fact, we were so convinced that biologics represented the future of veterinary medicine that we waited nearly a decade to start KindredBio until the cost of large molecules made sense for pet parents. With this clear vision that biologics would one day dominate pet therapeutics, we set about building the capabilities that would make us a leader in this technically rigorous field.

We hired world-class protein engineers responsible for some of the most successful human drugs approved and built a state-of-the-art biologics manufacturing facility with virtually end-to-end capabilities, all the while securing two small-molecule approvals to show the potential of our business model early on. And that is why I'm confident that prioritizing and accelerating our innovative biologics candidates while transitioning to a more capital-efficient model for commercialization, will position us even more strongly for future success. Turning to Mirataz, as Richard said, we view today's announcement as further validation of the value we have created in this product and as a company. By commercializing this product, we have learned that a much larger infrastructure is needed to change practice patterns when a generic is on the market.

That being said, our team has done an outstanding job given their resources. In the quarter, we recorded Mirataz revenues of $1.3 million, with market penetration reaching 55% and the reorder rate among purchasing veterinary clinics growing to 71%. The average order size continued to grow quarter over quarter. Looking ahead, we are confident that Dechra is the right strategic fit to deliver results for Mirataz globally.

Not only does Dechra have a sizable commercial infrastructure, but what really makes them a great match for Mirataz is their focus on the sale of technical and value-added specialty pharmaceuticals. Dechra has successfully developed market-leading brands, particularly within the field of chronic disease management, and importantly, they have a complementary fee line product portfolio targeting diseases linked to fee line weight loss. Given the synergies between Mirataz and Dechra's existing product portfolio, Mirataz will represent an important cross-promotional product for Dechra worldwide. And being based in the U.K., they are also well-positioned to launch Mirataz in the EU.

We are working with Dechra to complete the transaction expeditiously so they can bring the product to market as soon as possible. We're very pleased with the launch of Zimeta IV to date, as well as the only equine drug to gain approval last year, and with a lot of anticipation in the market, the response of the American Association of Equine Practitioners Convention in December was extremely encouraging. The vast majority of people who stopped by our booth at this leading annual event placed an order. We've also found universities have been quick to implement Zimeta into hospitals, and the largest compounders have voluntarily taken it off their shelve, and at times, even shared with us their customer list.

This, as you can imagine, is quite unprecedented. The cost of Zimeta is $30.6 per vial to veterinarians. You may recall from the Mirataz launch that we're unable to recognize revenue unless a reorder is placed within the same quarter. Given we've received approval of Zimeta at the end of November, I'm pleased with the revenue we were able to record in the quarter of $127,000.

Turning to our core biologics programs, as you saw in today's press release, all of our pipeline candidates are advancing as planned. Regarding our IL-31 program for K9 atopic dermatitis, the scale-up process is proceeding, and we expect to start the pivotal effectiveness study in the second half of this year. We remain in late-stage discussions with a number of parties regarding a commercial partnership. For our IL-4/13 SINK program, the in-life portion of the pilot effectiveness study is complete, and we are completing development of the PK assays to read out the study.

So you should expect a press release announcing the results in the coming weeks. As you know, back in December, we unveiled positive pilot results from a laboratory study of KIND-032, our IL-4R monoclonal antibody. While the study was a single-dose study designed primarily to assess safety and pharmacokinetics, we were very pleased to see evidence of positive efficacy and a dose-response observed at week one. Both the IL-4 and IL-13 pathways are key drivers of inflammation that underlies atopic dermatitis.

The SINK molecule binds to both IL-4 and IL-13 circulating in the blood while KIND-032 binds to the IL-4 receptor on the surface of immune cells. Once we have the SINK study results, we will be able to determine if there is a difference in the clinical profile of both programs and whether to move forward with both or with one. As we've mentioned in the past, while we won't develop all of our atopic dermatitis programs, we will likely bring several to market to take advantage of heterogeneity among patients, rotation between different drug classes and the potential for combination therapy. Our epoCat pivotal study is ongoing, and parvo remains on track for approval by the end of this year or early 2021.

In short, we are really pleased with the progress of our biologics program. I am confident this industry-leading pipeline, which addresses significant market opportunity, provides the greatest potential for value creation. With that, I'll hand the call over to Wendy for a discussion of our financial results.

Wendy Wee -- Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Denise. The transition to a biologics-only company that leverages the commercial capabilities of multinational partners to maximize product value will result in a more capital-efficient business model with less reliance upon dilutive sources. By focusing on our highest value biologics programs and realizing partnering capital, we expect to reduce operating expenditures and extend runway through the launch of key biologics candidates. Proceeds from the sale of Mirataz to Dechra, together with the workforce and operational reduction announced today, are expected to prolong runway through 2022 while maintaining a focused research engine.

As Richard mentioned, we will remain in late-stage discussions with a number of parties regarding the commercial partnership for our IL-31 antibody for atopic dermatitis. For 2020, we anticipate operating expenditures of $58 million to $61 million, which includes a one-time restructuring charge of approximately $1.7 million and first-quarter expenditures consistent with the full organizational structure. Excluding first-quarter expenditures, the annualized run rate is expected to be between $54 million and $56 million this year. It is important to note here that the success of our development model and lower-than-expected attrition rate, the continuation of small molecule candidates would have resulted in a much higher operating base.

As part of this strategic realignment, we plan to eliminate approximately 53 positions, which primarily relate to the companion animal sales force and research and development for small molecule programs. The associated restructuring charge of approximately $1.7 million includes severance and the extended healthcare benefits in recognition of the current external environment. The reduction in workforce is expected to lower compensation and benefits costs by approximately $7.1 million annually. In the coming year, we intend to hire additional staff to enhance our biologics manufacturing capabilities, but still expect a net reduction in headcount and lower year-over-year operating expense from 2021 onwards as we seek additional opportunities for savings.

Under our partnership model, we expect a combination of upfront payments, milestones, and royalties. Turning to our financial results, in the fourth quarter, we reported a net loss of $15.7 million or $0.40 per share, compared to a net loss of $154 million or $0.46 per share for the same period in 2018. For the full year, the net loss was $61.4 million or $1.59 per share, as compared to a net loss of $49.7 million or $1.60 per share in 2018. Net product revenues totaled $1.4 million in the final quarter of the year versus $1.3 million in the year-ago period.

2019 net product revenues were $4.3 million, compared with $2 million for the prior year. Keep in mind, Mirataz became commercially available in July 2018, while Zimeta became commercially available in December 2019. Future global sales of Mirataz by Dechra will be recorded by KindredBio as royalty revenue. The cost of product sales totaled $0.2 million for the fourth quarter, resulting in a gross margin of 87% and $0.6 million for the year, leading to a gross margin of 86%.

Research and development expenses were $7.1 million for the fourth quarter, compared to $7.8 million for the same period in 2018. For the full-year 2019, research and development expenses were $28.3 million versus $26.4 million in 2018. Stock-based compensation expense related to research and development was $1.8 million, compared with $1.7 million in 2018. The $1.9 million increase in full-year R&D expenses was primarily due to higher headcount and related expenses as we advance biologics programs, higher consulting expenses for the quality assurance programs and increased capital equipment depreciation expense.

Selling, general and administrative expenses totaled $9.6 million for the quarter, compared with $9.2 million for the same period in 2018. For the full-year 2019, SG&A expenses were $37.9 million versus $26.5 million for 2018. The $11.4 million increase in full-year expenses is the result of being a commercial company, as well as increased expenses incurred by the Elwood, Kansas plant and the lead up to its commissioning. In addition, higher corporate infrastructure costs and stock-based compensation expense also contributed to the increase in expenses.

Stock-based compensation expense included in SG&A was $5.5 million in 2019 versus $4.5 million in 2018. Net cash used in operating activities in 2019 was approximately $56.3 million. We also invested approximately $8.4 million in capital expenditures for the build-out of our Elwood, Kansas manufacturing facility, including equipment purchases. As I mentioned earlier, we expect operating expenses to range between $58 million and $61 million this year.

That is excluding the impact of stock-based compensation expense and the impact of acquisitions if any. It is important to note here that excluding the one-time restructuring charge of $1.7 million and first-quarter expenditures consistent with the full organizational structure, our annualized run rate would be between $54 million and $56 million this year. Additionally, we plan to invest $46 million in capital expenditures on lab and manufacturing equipment for our biologics programs. As of December 31, 2019, we had $73.5 million in cash, cash equivalents, and investments, compared to $73.9 million at December 31, 2018.

Upon closure of the Mirataz transaction, which is expected in the second quarter, we will receive a cash payment of $43 million, of which a customary 10% will be held in escrow and paid out beginning in 12 months, assuming no escrow claims. In closing, I want to emphasize that we advance our R&D efforts with an incredibly talented team that is fully vested in this strategy and the future of the company. And we look forward to updating you on our progress next quarter. I will now turn the call back over to Richard.

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Wendy. Operator, we're ready for questions.

Questions & Answers:


Operator

[Operator instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Brandon Folkes with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now open.

Brandon Folkes -- Cantor Fitzgerald -- Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking my questions, and congratulations on the announcement today. Could you just elaborate in terms of how are you thinking about taking these products that you have in the biologics pipeline through development? And what stage in the development of these drugs will you seek partners versus develop them further? Just any color to help us think about that. And then maybe if you could just update us.

I know we talked about them partnering with IL-31, but is this something that partners are looking to partner on IL-31, as well as SINK? Any color on how to think about that would be great.

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Sure. Absolutely. So the partnering strategy will depend on the molecule. So it will be molecule by molecule.

There is some molecules such as the atopic dermatitis molecules, where the market is fully validated, and there is a lot of interest even at an earlier stage. And then there are molecules where we anticipate the value maximization will be toward the latter end of the development. So our preference would be to partner later rather than earlier because, number one, it doesn't cost us very much to develop the molecule at least compared to the human industry; and number two, we've seen from Mirataz that the value could go up 10 times or more once it's been derisked. So it will be molecule by molecule.

In terms of IL-31, there are certain partners who are interested primarily in IL-31, and then there are partners who are interested in a broader dermatitis franchise. So we are having discussions on both types of partnerships.

Brandon Folkes -- Cantor Fitzgerald -- Analyst

OK. And maybe just one follow-up, if I may. How should we think about the investment in the Kansas facility going forward with regard to the partnership model? Would you be looking to manufacture products out of there? Should we think a bit of a CDMO type business as well? Just any color there would be great.

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Sure. So we expect to manufacture most or all of our products from Kansas because, right now, there is a shortage of manufacturing capacity. So most of the partners we're talking to do not have the capacity to manufacture, even if they have a human parent that has manufacturing capabilities, those are usually completely booked. So that's number one.

And number two, we have been getting inbound inquiries about contract manufacturing in the Kansas plant. We don't have plans to expand capacity solely for contract manufacturing, but in areas where we have excess capacity, and that's in the filling line in Kansas and some capacity in Mitten Road, we're certainly having discussions with those potential partners.

Brandon Folkes -- Cantor Fitzgerald -- Analyst

Right. Thank you very much.

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Sure.

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Jon Block with Stifel. Your line is now open.

Jon Block -- Stifel Financial Corp. -- Analyst

Thanks, guys. Good afternoon. This first question maybe builds on the prior questions. But I think you talked about starting the pivotal for IL-31 in the back half of 2020.

I think you said 2H '20. So Richard, now with the cash runway extended with the sale of Mirataz, and you talked about the more favorable terms of further out you go, are you guys giving any thought on sort of waiting longer to secure a partnership until you have the IL-31 results, the pivotal results in hand in order to call it sort of maximize those terms? I just would love your thoughts there.

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

That's an excellent question. At one point, we were thinking maybe the terms on the veterinary side were not as favorable as on the human side, but it just turns out that you just have to wait a little bit longer before you can get those kinds of terms. So that is certainly something we're looking at. With the new model, it changes our burn rate, and we would not rule that possibility out.

Jon Block -- Stifel Financial Corp. -- Analyst

OK. And then maybe just a pivot on Mirataz. I think you mentioned, maybe I'll try to dig in a little bit into the agreement with Dechra. So I think you mentioned a royalty amount.

Does that royalty amount differ here in the U.S. versus Europe since it's a little bit more established here in the U.S.? And then the follow-on to that would just be, is it royalty and milestone or strictly royalty?

Denise Bevers -- President and Chief Operating Officer

Yes. So it's strictly royalty and the royalty does not differ. It's a global rate.

Jon Block -- Stifel Financial Corp. -- Analyst

Would you want to ballpark for us what that rate may be?

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

I think we can say it's low double digits.

Jon Block -- Stifel Financial Corp. -- Analyst

OK. Perfect. Thank you, guys.

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Sure.

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Balaji Prasad with Barclays. Your line is now open.

Balaji Prasad -- Barclays -- Analyst

Thank you. Hi. Good afternoon. And I'm glad to see this focus evolving or a narrow focus on biologics now post these divestments and your pure-play positioning.

So that side, you just spoke about the royalty in Mirataz. Also, I wanted to understand your time lines around the equine subsidiary and what your thoughts are behind that?

Denise Bevers -- President and Chief Operating Officer

Sure. So we're exploring that. I mean we find the equine space very interesting. It's almost a specialty area if you will.

So we have a very talented small team, and we have an exciting pipeline, as you know. So we will be sequestering all of that into the equine franchise, and at the same time, looking at whether to spin that out to stand on its own or to divest of those assets, and we'll work closely with our equine team to make that determination.

Balaji Prasad -- Barclays -- Analyst

Got it. Our second question, basically tying up your cash flows on your pipeline thoughts over 2020 and 2021. The way I see it right now after the details you've provided, it looks like you have an OPEX plus CAPEX of around $67 million, and current cash is $74 million. You get $43 million more and $7 million of workforce reduction.

So if I back out all of this, I'm left with approximately $60 million of cash at the end of 2020. How would that be sufficient for 2021 and 2022? Is there something that I'm missing here?

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

I'll let Wendy take you through that calculation.

Wendy Wee -- Chief Financial Officer

Well, yes, we have $73 million at the end of the year. And on top of that, you add the $43 million. We're reducing our operating expenditures to a run rate of roughly $53 million to -- $54 million to $56 million. Included in there is depreciation expense.

So if you back out depreciation expense, you'll find that our cash would last us until the end of 2022.

Balaji Prasad -- Barclays -- Analyst

Can you also kind of extrapolate this to what it will mean for your pipeline developments now? What is going to be a priority in 2020 and in 2022?

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. So we will be advancing our atopic dermatitis candidates, as well as parvovirus and epo. And then the repositioning allows us to start moving ahead with some of the biologics that we had not been able to. And we will focus on validated commercial markets or for the less validated market.

So there are a handful of markets like pain, dry eye and a few others where the commercial potential has been proven. And since we are queuing more closely to the human model, we think that will attract more partners. So that's a decision that we'll be making over the coming couple of months.

Balaji Prasad -- Barclays -- Analyst

Guys, thank you. Good luck.

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Sure.

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of David Westenberg with Guggenheim Securities. Your line is now open.

David Westenberg -- Guggenheim Securities -- Analyst

Thank you for taking the question. So I think parvo now, I think you have the time lines at the end of 2021. Is that the next major approval that you expect? And why did parvo come so much faster than maybe some of the other compounds?

Denise Bevers -- President and Chief Operating Officer

Sure. So we expect the approval at the end of this year or early 2021. And the reason is we have a very streamlined development program because, as you can imagine, parvo is highly contagious so the agency has agreed to laboratory studies. And so it's very confined, very controlled.

We have control over the time line. And so we believe, given how collaboratively we've been working with USDA that we should see approval by the end of this year or early next year, assuming that the studies are positive.

David Westenberg -- Guggenheim Securities -- Analyst

Got it. And then can you talk about your decision about wind partner, I think, you just mentioned that you found in animal health. It's maybe you want to partner a little bit later. So yes, just any kind of color in terms of when we're looking at your on the market comp -- I mean, your in development compounds because, right now, with the new business model, I mean, all these will likely be partnered.

So I mean, are we going to be seeing the vast majority of your partnerships now after approval?

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

It's going to depend on the molecule, on our capital requirements and the amounts that our partners are willing to pay us at different stages. For certain indications like atopic dermatitis or let's say, pain, we think that the amount that partners are willing to pay earlier in the development program could be quite attractive. For certain other molecules, we may wait until later on. So as I said, our preference would be delayed, if we can.

But having said that, part of our business model is to rely on upfront payments more going forward than additional financing where possible. So it will be a balance.

David Westenberg -- Guggenheim Securities -- Analyst

Thank you very much.

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of RK with H.C. Wainright. Your line is now open.

Unknown speaker

Thank you. Congratulations, Richard and Denis and Wendy. Most of my questions have been asked, but a couple of them. Number one, as you think through the equine business, either as a separate entity or a divestiture, are you going to start accounting for that business as a separate business in your financials? And would that happen either from the first quarter or second quarter of this year?

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

I'll answer and then Wendy can add to it. We eventually will. We haven't decided exactly when to fully segregate it.

Wendy Wee -- Chief Financial Officer

Right. So right now, our financials do include equine activity in it.

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

But right now, we haven't moved assets into it. Yes. That's correct.

Unknown speaker

And Richard, and then you and I talked a little bit about your half-life extension technology when you initially announced about this. Certainly, it's an exciting piece of technology that you and your team have developed. How do you plan to take that forward? And also, I would think the folks on the other side of the aisle in the human health business would be interested in this sort of technology. Do you see any interest there? And do you want to make any commentary at all about this?

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Sure. So we plan to incorporate this into much of our portfolio going forward because almost every molecule we have can benefit from longer half-life or lower cost of goods. Both of those things give us a competitive advantage. So for the molecules we have in the pipeline already, we'll continue developing them, but for many of them, we'll have a follow-on molecule.

And then for new molecules, we will likely incorporate the technology. In addition, other companies seem very, very interested in this, and we think that there is a licensing opportunity for technology. Now turning to the human side, this is a very interesting question you asked because, on the human side, there are technologies that extend half-life and entire companies have been built solely on half-life extension. We have developed our own technology because human technology does not work very well for other species, and that's why we've developed our own.

So what I can say is it's a very valuable technology on the human side. It doesn't quite a crossover across species.

Unknown speaker

Thank you. Thanks for taking my questions.

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Sure.

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Ben Haynor with Alliance Global. Your line is now open.

Ben Haynor -- Alliance Global Partners -- Analyst

Good morning, guys. Can you hear me?

Denise Bevers -- President and Chief Operating Officer

We can.

Ben Haynor -- Alliance Global Partners -- Analyst

Excellent. So just first for me was part of the reason to do the Mirataz deal to kind of set a marker saying, hey, look, we've got $43 million upfront plus worldwide royalties for it. And the atopic dermatitis market is at least, as you said, in order of magnitude, larger. Hey, how about a little something for the effort give us in order of magnitude higher economics on some of these other programs that we're working on?

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

I don't think our thinking was direct that, but if you'd like to draw those conclusions, that's fine. But really, it's a business decision, a difficult one. But clearly, the scale of commercial effort needed to maximize the potential for Mirataz was larger than what we could provide. So rather than spending more cash on pursuing that, we recognized that we needed to make a pivot.

Now having said that, once we started discussing terms, we realized what we said, which is that for an asset that's approved, where there's market demand, companies are willing to pay.

Ben Haynor -- Alliance Global Partners -- Analyst

OK. That makes sense. And the questions that I have already asked, I did overthink that a little bit, and perhaps this next question, too, but with the statement you just made in that you're seeing companies that are willing to pay. But in getting rid of the commercial organization switching to the new model, do you worry that you have less leverage with would-be partners? And you won't be able to say go pound sand, we'll go commercialize it ourselves?

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

That is a possibility, but given how much interest there was, we had enough competitive tension among the bidders. So I don't think that's what's going to happen. If we only had one or two bidders then we might run into that situation. But when you have multiple, multiple bidders, they're really bidding against each other less than they are bidding against sales commercialization.

Ben Haynor -- Alliance Global Partners -- Analyst

OK. That's fair enough. And then lastly for the overthinking questions. What proportion of the economics do you think was attributable to the package inserts accolades that you've gotten with Mirataz? Was it half? Two-thirds? What do you think about there?

Denise Bevers -- President and Chief Operating Officer

I love this question. For those of you on the phone who have no idea what this is about. At our last conference, there was a regulatory discussion at the Western Veterinary Conference, and Mirataz was used as an example of an excellent package insert. And I think right there, I mean, that's just a testament to our team, and we have an outstanding team, they made an incredible footprint for Mirataz.

And as Richard said, I mean, this was a gut-ranching decision because we've hired the best talent, and they were entrepreneurial folks. And unfortunately, we just couldn't quite sustain it at this point. But yes, thank you for that question.

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

And I want to echo that. The package insert, promotional material, our logistics, our outside and inside sales reps, our reps who handled the corporate accounts executed perfectly, all executed perfectly. So it was a fantastic team doing a fantastic job, which made this decision difficult. So really it comes down to scale and the amount of capital that is available to absorb the initial cost.

Ben Haynor -- Alliance Global Partners -- Analyst

Great thanks. So that's it for me. And I appreciate you taking the trifecta of all my questions.

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Brooks O'Neil with Lake Street Capital. Your line is now open.

Brooks O'Neil -- Lake Street Capital Markets -- Analyst

Good afternoon. I was just curious, I have a sense that Denise's primary role has related to the commercial side of the business. Do you guys envision her role evolving under the new approach?

Denise Bevers -- President and Chief Operating Officer

I don't think so. I mean, my role spans clinical development, regulatory, commercial manufacturing, all of the operations. So, yes, there's plenty. We have an outstanding team that supports me.

I have hired exceptional leaders, which is why, I think, the scope of my responsibility has been able to be so great. But we will be focusing now certainly on the biologics, the equine subsidiary, of which there is still a commercial team certainly, as well as business development. So there's quite a bit to do.

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Should go from wearing four hats to three.

Denise Bevers -- President and Chief Operating Officer

Four?

Brooks O'Neil -- Lake Street Capital Markets -- Analyst

As you think about the discontinued efforts with the small molecules, do you see any opportunity to harvest any value there or are you just going to shut everything down?

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Oh, no. Well, we will look into out-licensing those molecules. Many of those are very promising. And if we didn't have the top priority molecules that we're focusing on, those will be excellent candidates.

Brooks O'Neil -- Lake Street Capital Markets -- Analyst

Right. Thank you very much.

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Nathan Weinstein with Aegis Capital. Your line is now open.

Nathan Weinstein -- Aegis Capital -- Analyst

Hey, guys. Congrats on the news. Just firstly, a broad-based macro question on current events with COVID. Any anecdotal comments on what you're seeing from the vet channel in terms of traffic.

And then if you could, secondly, give us an update or remind us what the most recent update was on epoCat? And then finally, with Dechra, do you have a system in place just to make sure that there are no supply interruptions on Mirataz in the channel?

Denise Bevers -- President and Chief Operating Officer

Sure. So I'll take all of those, Nathan. So for COVID, we haven't seen any disruption just yet. However, we are preparing that it may impact some of our clinical trial enrollment, and certainly, potentially, some temporary sales with owners sequestering and not going to the vet as often.

So we hope that's short-lived, but we are preparing for that certainly. On epoCat, I think your question was around time line. We are enrolling in the pivotal study. As we said, we expect that to take about 18 months.

So we'll continue to give any updates if there are any. And then as far as channel disruption, I could tell you that Dechra has been exceptional. Our teams have been working together. We are way ahead of the curve.

So we really don't anticipate any issues. Not to mention our CMO has been terrific in working with both companies to make sure that's the case.

Nathan Weinstein -- Aegis Capital -- Analyst

Thanks so much appreciate it.

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Sure.

Operator

And there are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back to Dr. Richard Chin, CEO, for any further remarks.

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, operator. I'd like to thank our listeners for your support as we continue to advance the promising pipeline and execute on the strategy we laid out today. Thank you.

Operator

[Operator signoff]

Duration: 45 minutes

Call participants:

Richard Chin -- Chief Executive Officer

Denise Bevers -- President and Chief Operating Officer

Wendy Wee -- Chief Financial Officer

Brandon Folkes -- Cantor Fitzgerald -- Analyst

Jon Block -- Stifel Financial Corp. -- Analyst

Balaji Prasad -- Barclays -- Analyst

David Westenberg -- Guggenheim Securities -- Analyst

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Ben Haynor -- Alliance Global Partners -- Analyst

Brooks O'Neil -- Lake Street Capital Markets -- Analyst

Nathan Weinstein -- Aegis Capital -- Analyst

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