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Shaw Communications Inc (NYSE:SJR)
Q2 2020 Earnings Call
Apr 9, 2020, 4:30 p.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Shaw Communications' Second Quarter 2020 Conference Call and Webcast. Today's call will be hosted by Mr. Brad Shaw, CEO and Executive Chair of Shaw Communications. [Operator Instructions]

Before we begin, management would like to remind listeners that comments made on today's call will include forward-looking statements -- information and there will be risks that actual results could differ materially. Please refer to the Company's publicly filed documents for more details on assumptions and risks.

Mr. Shaw, I will now turn the call over to you.

Bradley Shaw -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, operator, and good afternoon everyone and thank you for taking the time to join us. I just want to let you know from a logistics point of view, myself and the CFO are in Calgary and the President of Shaw is in Toronto. And I think that today -- these days, we have to do it that way. So I just want to give you a little logistics update. But as I mentioned, with me today are Paul McAleese, President of Shaw Communications and our Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer, Trevor English.

Before we begin and on behalf of all of us at Shaw, we want to send our well-wishes to everyone during this -- these challenging and turbulent times and we truly hope that each and every one of you and your families are healthy and safe.

Today, we'll be discussing our response to the COVID-19 pandemic including our numerous employee, customer and community initiatives. We will also touch upon our second quarter results which were solid and in line with expectations.

To say that the events over the last several weeks have been extremely challenging would be an understatement, both professionally and personally. Due to COVID-19 and the significant uncertainty that surrounded, many factors fall outside of our control, such as the duration and magnitude of the impacts on our business, the sector and the overall economy. The economic challenges from this pandemic are further amplified by the extremely low commodity prices, which will impact many that live and work in Alberta.

We are still in relatively early stages of this pandemic making it challenging to know that the degree to which we could be affected. Our management team is closely monitoring the situation and we are exercising agility and being disciplined with our actions. We are focused on the safety of our employees, the integrity of our networks and the delivery of our products and services through our operational focus and on maintaining our strong financial position, including our balance sheet flexibility and ample liquidity. I believe that our business is resilient and that we will emerge from this crisis in an even stronger position. And I want to spend some time highlighting the key actions we have taken to support our employees, customers and our communities.

First, it is incumbent on all of us to do our part to help prevent the rapid spread of this virus and we want to send our deepest gratitude to those that are standing at the front lines, doing their very best day in and day out. This includes those that work in emergency response and healthcare, grocery stores, public transit and many other essential functions. It also includes our Shaw and Freedom employees that are serving our customers and maintaining our strong and critical networks. When Canadians need it most your efforts do not go unnoticed and we sincerely thank you.

From the early days of the COVID-19 we were ready to respond. The safety of our employees continues to be our priority one. And upon initiation of our business continuity plan, we were able to transition approximately 5,000 employees to work from home. Within days, we implemented the digital technology and tools that enabled more staff to work remotely, including our call centers and we now have almost 80% of our total employee base safely and efficiently working from home. We still have a relatively small number of employees that are not at home as they perform essential functions for our customers. This includes retail staff at 20 of our corporate-owned wireless retail locations that continue to provide urgent customer service, network support teams who are managing our critical infrastructure and a limited number of technicians providing customers with assistance during these challenging circumstances. All operations are running smoothly and we have frequent communication with all team members to ensure they are supported and that we keep everyone abreast of the situation as it unfolds.

With the majority of Canadians now working from home relying on video and voice interactions to remain connected, children and students accessing education in a virtual manner and of course our customers now utilizing our services as their primary form of entertainment, we have seen significant increase in traffic on our networks. On our wireline network traffic has increased by as much as 50% and what used to be a peak period that lasted for three to four hours in the evenings has now become over 12 hours of peak usage, seven days a week.

On our wireless network, we have seen a decrease in data trafficking offloading to home Wi-Fi networks as more and more Canadians follow the isolation and social distancing preventive measures being rolled out by governments. However, we have experienced a 25% increase in voice traffic as more calls are being placed to friends, family and colleagues on a daily basis. Our customers are relying on us now more than ever and I'm proud to confirm that our facilities-based network performance has been exceptional.

It is in trying times like these when Canadians deeply appreciate the value, the strong and reliable services that not only keep them connected and entertained but also provide them with the medium to carry on with their daily lives under social distancing measures. Facilities-based networks are no longer just the backbone of a digital economy, they have become the economic backbone of our country. While several important regulatory matters are still in front of us, facilities-based operators have showcased the strength during the difficult time and we urge regulators to be mindful of Canada's relative strength on this front as well as the timing of their decisions as we navigate this period of uncertainty.

Not only have we built network capacity that exceeds the significant increase in demand, we also have innovative products that can be self-connected without any need for a truck roll. This represents a competitive advantage as well as a way in which we can help further protect the health of our employees and customers by greatly minimizing the occasions where the technician needs to enter a customer's premise.

While customer activity across all our divisions is down, our customer self-connect metric has reached 100% in the past weeks. This accomplishment, along with our ability to pivot our call center staff through a work from home environment are concrete examples of the significant organizational efforts undertaken over recent years to shift our operating model to one that embraces agility and a digital-first bias. This foresight is proving to be extremely valuable.

In addition to providing critical and essential connectivity services as an industry we have collaborated in innovative ways and moved quickly to support all Canadians as we navigate these uncertain times together. Whether it's through additional video channels, more wireless data, opening our Shaw Go WiFi network to the public, providing free digital educational models for all Canadian students through our new partnership with EVERFI or donations to community initiatives to help those in most need, we are putting Canadians first.

To our Shaw employees, thank you for the passion you bring each and every day and your dedication to serving our customers throughout this crisis. We know that rapid change and uncertainty can be difficult, which makes me even prouder of how we continue to support one another and optimistic of what we can accomplish during this unprecedented time.

We do not yet know what lies around the corner or the full impact of COVID on businesses and consumers across the country. In the short term, we expect that some areas of Shaw will be impacted more than others such as our Business division which provides many small businesses with critical connectivity services throughout our footprint. These challenges are further amplified here in Alberta, which is also being impacted by the rapid collapse in commodity prices. However, I feel confident that we are resilient. We provide critical and essential services to our customers and our communities and Shaw will emerge as an even stronger organization as we continuously adapt and evolve our operations to meet and surpass the demands of Canadians during these challenging times.

I will now turn it over to Trevor to provide some more details on specific areas of our business that we are monitoring closely, some of the early impacts we are experiencing and our updated thoughts on our previously issued F '20 guidance. He will also briefly review the highlights of our second quarter results. Trevor?

Trevor English -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer

Thank you, Brad and good afternoon everyone. And I hope that you, your families and friends are all well and keeping safe during these difficult times.

Let me briefly -- let me comment briefly on our second quarter results before I address our preliminary reviews regarding the COVID-19 impacts on our business. At a consolidated level Q2 performance was solid and aligned with our plan resulting in revenue growth of 3.7% and an adjusted EBITDA growth of 9.5% or 2% year-over-year when removing the impact of IFRS 16 in the quarter.

Wireless subscriber and financial momentum remained strong throughout the second quarter, which included competitive holiday promotions for much of December and early January. We grew Wireless postpaid subscribers by 54,000 and increased ABPU and ARPU by approximately 7% and 3% respectively. Wireless adjusted EBITDA grew by approximately 18% compared to the prior year when removing the impact of IFRS 16.

In our Wireline division we continued to focus on execution and delivery of stable and consistent results. Consumer revenue declined by 1.5% year-over-year, while Business revenue increased approximately 5% when moving the impact of our Calgary1 data center disposition in the Q2 F '19 period. Excluding the CAD20 million impact from IFRS 16, adjusted EBITDA is comparable to the prior year and year-to-date, we've generated free cash flow of CAD375 million.

Our second quarter results were not impacted by the COVID-19 events or the challenging commodity price environment. However, in only a month's time we find ourselves in a period of significant and unprecedented uncertainty. We are monitoring our key operational metrics and performance indicators across our organization daily. While we generally feel very comfortable that we can manage through this crisis, it is difficult, if not impossible, to accurately or precisely predict the impacts on Shaw.

Brad spoke earlier about the strength and capacity that our networks deliver, and I'll provide some additional data and qualitative insights regarding some of the early impacts to our operations that we're experiencing. Not surprising subscriber activity across the board is down significantly. For example, the temporary closure of the vast majority of retail stores has meant that Wireless sales have slowed materially in the last few weeks. Customers are simply not making decisions to switch or alter their services during this time. However, this also results in significantly fewer disconnects. We will not achieve our Wireless subscriber loading targets this year. However, we do not expect that the lower net adds will have a material near-term impact on our Wireless financial performance in F '20 due to lower acquisition related investments. Although of course, this is not our preferred strategy as we've been successfully scaling and growing our wireless market share over recent years which was also our ambition for this year.

We also expect that subscriber activity in our Wireline division will be considerably muted for a period of time. It is likely that some consumer and business behaviors will shift due to economic challenges, including possible downward package or ARPU migration, accelerated cord cutting and likely increased difficulty for some customers to pay their bills. While we do expect revenue to be impacted to some degree, we have significant operating and capital levers and flexibility to help protect EBITDA and free cash flow.

Considerably lower customer activity will also mean that investments in promotions, subsidies and advertising will be lower than expected, which will help to partially offset top line pressure. We've already reduced costs in some areas such as travel and discretionary spending and we will continue to thoughtfully optimize our cost structure as required.

Capital expenditures will likely moderate in the near term as growth and activity slows and some projects are deferred. In addition to the impacts from the pandemic, the pressure on commodity prices also represents a risk to our business. We generate approximately one-third of our consumer Wireline revenues from Alberta. Our Business division generates approximately 35% of its revenue from Alberta. And for greater clarity, we generate approximately CAD140 million in annual revenue that is directly related to the oil and gas and hospitality sectors, both of which we expect will continue to face an uphill battle for an unknown period. However, through our close relationships with our business customers, we are proactively working with those that have experienced significant and immediate economic challenges. While we have seen an increase in pricing concessions in our Business division in March and early April, we do not consider the impact to date to be material.

We are providing essential and critical connectivity services to our business customers as well. However, with limited visibility it's difficult to estimate the impact to our business customers across our footprint. We hope the challenges faced in the businesses are temporary and we continue to monitor this division closely as we believe there are potentially more immediate near-term financial risks relative to our consumer and wireless business. However, when we reach a period of stabilization, we believe that we have an opportunity for our Business division to be more disruptive and gain incremental market share as we have a strong portfolio of essential products. It is also important to keep in mind that Business accounts for approximately 10% of our consolidated revenues. Thus we believe the overall near-term impact to our organization to be manageable.

It is still early days and we do feel comfortable with the daily trends we are experiencing. However, considering the significant uncertainty that exists, we are not able to predict the magnitude of the impacts over a longer time period as the environment continues to rapidly evolve. We believe a cautious and prudent view of our business and financial performance going forward is necessary and we now expect to deliver adjusted EBITDA growth in fiscal 2020 and free cash flow is expected to be substantial in line with our previous guidance, which continues to support our current dividend levels. I believe it is worth reiterating the strength of our balance sheet, which has always been a strategic asset for us. Leverage remains at 2.5 times, which represents the low end of our target leverage range of 2.5 to 3 times post IFRS 16. We have no debt maturing until November 2023 and we're also in an enviable position from a liquidity perspective. We have a fully committed and substantially undrawn CAD1.5 billion credit facility, which was also recently renewed until December 2024.

In this environment investors have become increasingly focused on bank covenants and I'm pleased to confirm that we are comfortably in compliance. Our debt covenant limit is 5 times and we are currently under 2 times while our fixed charges coverage ratio covenant requires a minimum of 2 times and we're currently at approximately 10 times. This information was included in our Q2 MD&A.

In our press release, we also announced that we intend to suspend additional share repurchases under our NCIB program. This reflects the uncertain environment we are all operating in and we believe investors are focused on placing more value, on preserving liquidity and maintaining a strong balance sheet at this juncture. As a reminder, we have purchased and canceled approximately 5 million Class B shares as of the end of March at a total cost of approximately CAD130 million.

Before turning the call back to Brad, I want to remind investors that while there is some near-term headwinds, we believe we are in a strong and enviable position compared to other industries or sectors. As a management team, we are focused on ensuring the safety and health of all of our stakeholders, including our employees, customers and shareholders. Our networks are performing extremely well and we are providing critical and essential services to all of our customers. We continue to believe that we'll be able to effectively mitigate operational and financial risks and will continue to deliver strong free cash flow that supports our dividends and liquidity in this uncertain and challenging environment.

Brad, back to you.

Bradley Shaw -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Trevor. I want to close by acknowledging the profound impact that my dad JR had on this industry, our Company and employees, and of course on myself and my family. Many of you reached out with your condolences upon receiving the news and I want to thank you for having our family in your thoughts and for your kind words. JR was a pioneer. His vision 50 years ago was to provide choice and connect people to the things around them and he always cared deeply for our employees and, of course, our customers. He was still very much involved and engaged in everything we were doing in our business. I will miss his guidance and the conversations dearly. However, I know he would be proud. He would be proud of each and every Shaw employee for once again rising to the challenge. He would be proud our networks are providing critical services that keep customers, families and businesses connected. He would be proud that our facilities-based investments have proven invaluable in our daily lives during this time of crisis. And above anything else, he would be particularly proud of how we are all taking care of one another.

His legacy will carry on and will be a beacon of confidence and perseverance for myself and each of our employees during these challenging times. While we pay tribute and mourn the passing of our iconic and exceptional leader, my [Phonetic] father, a husband and a friend, I want to remind listeners that our Company has a bright future. The Shaw family and management team remains committed to our role as a leading provider of critical and essential products and services for Canadians. JR built this Company to exceed the demands of our customers and through the passion and hard work of our employees, we will continue to carry on his legacy for years to come.

Thank you, operator. We will now take questions.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Vince Valentini of TD Securities. Please go ahead.

Vince Valentini -- TD Securities Inc. -- Analyst

Yeah, thanks very much. And first my deepest condolences, Brad, to you and your family and whole Shaw organization. Obviously, JR was not just a great business leader and builder, but an absolutely wonderful man and he will be missed by everybody.

Bradley Shaw -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

Vince Valentini -- TD Securities Inc. -- Analyst

I'll try to leave you alone and direct my questions to your new President Paul McAleese. Congratulations, Paul, on the appointment. I have two questions for you, one on Wireless, one on the Wireline and cable business. On Wireless first. I know you warned us on the Q1 call in January that there could be a bit of an increase in churn given what was going on in December and it obviously came through that way. Can you talk a little bit about how the quarter progressed? Did February calm down a little bit versus some elevated levels in -- earlier on in the quarter? And then also what are your thoughts on what happens to both churn and equipment costs now that we've entered the social distancing period? That's the one on Wireless. I'll throw out the Wireline one too just so you can have them both.

You're obviously a bit newer to the cable and consumer business and just wondering if you have any early perspectives on that business that you can share with us today.

Paul McAleese -- President, Wireless

Hi, Vince. Thank you very much for those. Yeah, I'm very happy to report that while churn was certainly at a level that was elevated during the last quarter, we saw a really marked improvement in the period between December and February. So you'll recall that we were rolling off the original iPhone cohort from the late December 2017 period. And as I said, I think our team did a great job of managing that really for the first time a program of that scale. But just for contrast the churn rate February versus December was about 100 bps lower. So we saw a really sort of significant reduction in that.

Rolling forward, of course with the level of activity or the lack of activity that you're seeing in the marketplace today, I'd expect to see churn fall to record low levels. I suspect across all operators, you'll see that. And we will be -- we'll be reporting more on that obviously in July, but we've definitely seen improvements on that front.

On the equipment side of things with still limited activity we're seeing in retail, we will expect to see elevated levels of EBITDA relative to expectations, of course, because of the dilutive effect of gross [Phonetic]. This quarter in some respects is going to be essentially a loss quarter for gross for Wireless. There's just [Phonetic] simply not enough activity at the top of the bucket. So, expect to see a relatively neutral performance there or worse.

And equipment, well, one part of the equation I suspect will be -- will have a very solid EBITDA performance to report driven by the lack of equipment activity.

Does that answer those questions for you?

Vince Valentini -- TD Securities Inc. -- Analyst

Yes, sir.

Paul McAleese -- President, Wireless

First impressions of consumer, it's early days, it's funny I guess I officially started today. So thank you for the kind words. It's been interesting getting to spend more time with the team and get under the hood and we have this fantastic franchise that we've built over the years here and that management have nurtured to a great spot. A number of observations I'd make and I think these really represent opportunities across the Western footprint.

My first observation is that there is this striking, and probably frankly inexplicable to me, difference between Internet pricing in Eastern Canada versus Western Canada, something I think I've always known, but never really appreciated the depth of which. And I'll use maybe this example, Vince, to gig pricing. If you visited the Rogers and Bell websites today, you'd find that gigabit pricing in Western or rather in Eastern markets is kind of harmonized at about CAD115 and clearly the market had judged that to be the appropriate price point for that kind of premium tier service.

If you move westward TELUS has launched gig at CAD85 which is sort of -- at least for me, this is perplexing Western Canada discount and that discount really continues right down the rate card. It's just a lot less expensive in Western Canada. While we get to launch our gig service, and frankly I would say Shaw hasn't necessarily been any more disciplined on this front, but it seems like both competitors have been very focused on volume versus quality. That's evident when you look at the lower Wireline margins of ourselves and TELUS relative to our Eastern Canadian peers. And moving forward we're going to want to make sure that we have adequate fuel to manage the significant demand surges that we've seen across our footprint in recent weeks. I suspect those won't relent anytime soon.

The second observation on consumer is what I would really describe as a sort of jarring the level of competitive intensity in the West, relative to the East. And despite the near maturity of the Internet category, it's odd that in an industry that's approaching 100% penetration, the value of all this back and forth between ourselves and our competitor trading customers, it's not clear to me sort of the value of that. So it kind of brings when you look at recent weeks, it brings these strategies under even greater scrutiny for me. I think the utility of our Internet product is at an all-time high. It's being consumed at record levels. It's performing at spectacular thresholds.

If we're going to continue to support the massive and structural surge that we've seen in usage, we need to ensure that our pricing supports the investment and the yield that's required. So it's early days. I would say though that we're looking very carefully at the rate card and I would just say continue to watch the space.

Vince Valentini -- TD Securities Inc. -- Analyst

Thank you.

Paul McAleese -- President, Wireless

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jeff Fan of Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Jeff Fan -- Scotia Capital Inc. -- Analyst

Thanks. Good afternoon. And let me express my condolences to Brad and the family and the team as well and hope all of you guys are doing well. I've got a couple of questions. I will start on the Internet. The self-install more than 50% in the quarter, clearly in process and especially going to 100%. Perhaps that's because of the situation we're in. Are you seeing a bit of a pickup in activation because of your ability to self-install, just because I think the telcos have -- tend to have a tougher time to do self-install just because of the way the network is architected. And then the second part to that Internet question is whether there is any switching happening in the early weeks from places where there isn't fiber deployed by your competitors as more people work from home probably need as robust a broadband network as you need?

And then the second questions is on Wireless. Paul as you mentioned Q3 is probably bit of a loss quarter and depending on how long this goes, if it goes through the summer Q4 might be a bit of a loss quarter as well in terms of activations. But if we look across the valley post COVID-19, how do you think about the landscape, because by then we might have more pent-up demand for upgrades where we may have people with older phones that are looking to upgrade. Do you have any early thoughts as you look across the valley, I know this is still early, in how that landscape may look?

Paul McAleese -- President, Wireless

Hi, Jeff. Yeah. Thank you. Excuse me. On self-install, yeah, I'm so pleased that we made the investments in recent years that we did and the team -- whether a little bit -- a bit of good planning and a bit of good luck, I suppose, that we were able to take such advantage of it right now. And it's been -- the customer experience has been fantastic so that we're getting great reviews on this. I'd say it's maybe a little early to tell whether there's really any competitive pickup there. There hasn't been a lot of activity on switching, to answer the second part of your question directly.

And while you're right, there is the advantage of our self-install relative to a fiber install for our competitor. I think as an industry frankly we've all done a good job of accommodating the kind of demand for customers to be able to do some of this on their own. So I wouldn't anticipate a significant pickup there. Honestly across the board, I think, all the major players have done a good job of making sure that customers feel safe in their homes and supported. So as an industry, I would give us a broad amount of credit and not suggest that it's going to create a surge in opportunity for us.

We -- on the Wireless question post COVID, yeah -- I mean I think we are in a great place. We're really well positioned competitively both during the pandemic and I think post pandemic. So I'll pull that apart into two pieces, Jeff. During we have, of course, as you know lower ARPU and probably fair to say more overall value than the incumbents. So I think that makes us a less vulnerable household expense than some of our peers. I've had a number of specific instances where people that are on fairly expensive competitive plans have reached out to me in recent days and made the cut over to Freedom simply because they're starting to spend more time looking at their bills than maybe they would have been in a pre-COVID world.

So I like what that signals. For me it is early days and it's a small sample, but those things usually come true. As you exit the pandemic and we emerge from this crisis, the value position that we've established for Freedom in the last two to three years is going to resonate even more with Canadians. And it happens to coincide with essentially the completion of our 700 build. We've done such a strong job with our retail distribution.

When all that opens back up and the market sort of starts to seek -- it starts to open up again, I think you are surmising this correctly, you're going to see a lot of wear and tear on phones over this kind of closedown period. We're seeing certainly a quiet period for upgrades, quiet period for new sales. There's going to be a definite surge. Hard to say where Apple is with their new product introduction in September. We won't know that until the rest of the market. But if they were to come back out with that you can only imagine that emerging at sort of some point in the summer, seeing that new product introduction and then all the other things factoring in, I really like where we sit is an opportunity. We've worked hard to establish ourselves as a high-value player for consumers and you've seen the same numbers that I have. When you see some of the employment figures, these are all households that are going to be looking for better value, but they're not going to be coming out of the wireless category. So I like where we sit.

Jeff Fan -- Scotia Capital Inc. -- Analyst

Okay. Thanks. Paul.

Paul McAleese -- President, Wireless

Thank you, Jeff.

Operator

Our next question comes from Tim Casey of BMO. Please go ahead. Our next question comes from Tim Casey of BMO. Please go ahead.

Tim Casey -- BMO Capital Markets Corp. -- Analyst

Hi. Sorry. I too would like to express my sympathies to Brad specifically and to everyone at Shaw. Paul, a couple of questions for you. Just -- it might be too early, but are you -- is there any indication on any implications for supply chain disruption with respect to the expected surge in demand for all the pent-up demand for phones and whatnot, any indications on that? And just on the video -- or pardon me, on the wireline side, can you talk a little bit about what you're seeing or what you expect to see in terms of video mix and specifically how are you treating your sports channels now in terms of credits to customers or what not because obviously sports has been so important to keeping the traditional bundle? And I acknowledge that that's not your focus, but it's still a profitable part of the bundle. If you could just address how you're looking at that. Thanks.

Paul McAleese -- President, Wireless

Yeah, I'd be happy to, Tim, and thanks for your kind words on -- of the top there. On supply chain, we've been really fortunate. There was a few days of darkness where we didn't really have a lot of communication with the major OEMs. I am referring to Wireless to start with. And they simply didn't know how their pipeline was going to read. But we -- thanks to the strength of the balance sheet, we've always got a reasonably good inventory position and we entered this -- the pandemic with a sort of decent size holding. It's been very clear that in recent days the sort of pipeline looks to be back up and running. So we don't anticipate any issues. Of course, diminished volumes help us there, Tim, as well, right. So we're not seeing a huge surge in demand, but we seem to be getting really good signals from the major OEMs and that seems quite comfortable. So, no real issues there. On the Wireline side, it's a question you didn't ask, we likewise have great continuity of supply for all of our major residential CPE, as well. So I think across the board, we're in good shape there. So, nice to see the supply chain kind of opening up a little bit again rather than where it was a few weeks ago. On Wireline in the video mix and sports, it's a very dynamic situation as you can imagine.

A little color on this. The sports leagues, almost 201 [Phonetic], of course, have not formally canceled their seasons. I know that all of them are looking at options on how they might be able to recover, particularly the ones that are kind of heading toward the playoffs. So they are all looking at options and in that regard I'll let them comment on that specifically. But it does put people that own the sports rights into a tricky position. We've been fortunate we haven't seen a great deal of customer inquiry around that. So it hasn't been a pressure point for us.

When we get formal notification, if in fact these seasons are canceled that may affect the economics and if that does then we will look at how that might affect the customer billing. At this point, it's actually been sort of fairly static. Customers aren't asking networks or other major league -- sports leagues are not canceling. I suspect all of that will change over the course of the next couple of weeks as we hear more about, specifically basketball and hockey, but there'll be more to follow there. But right now it's actually been a fairly flat conversation and no -- nothing really to report on that front.

Tim Casey -- BMO Capital Markets Corp. -- Analyst

Have you seen a noticeable uptick yet on the other side, on the more general entertainment and movie packages?

Paul McAleese -- President, Wireless

Yeah, we've seen a nice uplift in video-on-demand. Whether people are just reaching the end of Netflix or what's happening, but it's been a nice short-term lift there, a little more entertainment at home, compensating again for the lack of sports programming, I suspect, Tim, as well. So that's been decent. Of course, those are relatively small numerators on our video denominator, but it is good to see good signs of life there. The long-term trend for video hasn't abated but certainly the moment where you're turning your home into your primary entertainment and sort of almost a cinema, you've seen some of the studios move up releases and move things right past theatrical and into VOD. So we've had a nice lift from that. But I suspect that the long-term trend on video will remain where it was after this.

Tim Casey -- BMO Capital Markets Corp. -- Analyst

Thank you.

Paul McAleese -- President, Wireless

Thanks, Tim.

Operator

Our next question comes from Maher Yaghi of Desjardins. Please go ahead.

Maher Yaghi -- Desjardins Securities Inc. -- Analyst

Thank you for taking my question. And I also would like to offer my condolence to Brad and to the Shaw family, team. Excuse me. Maybe just a question on Wireless. Trying to understand a little bit better the consequences of a lower churn in the upcoming quarters on your operation. Can you share with us how much of your net additions during a typical Q3 or Q4 are due to churned customers from incumbents, so customers who are taking a new plan, not churning from somebody else?

Paul McAleese -- President, Wireless

Yeah, you just broke [Phonetic] a little bit there. I think I picked up the majority of it, Maher. The significant majority of our existing customers are from other carriers that are reporting in a number. So that lack of market activity is one of the reasons that you're seeing us with relatively -- kind of relatively flat to down performance expectations for this quarter. So we operate best and thrive most in an active environment where people are out shopping and comparing value and we've always thrived in that scenario. So we are very measured in our expectations for the next 60 to 90 days.

Maher Yaghi -- Desjardins Securities Inc. -- Analyst

Right. Exactly. So when I look at in a period where churn is likely to be significantly down, you're going to be saving quite a bit of cost on your closures of stores and on handset subsidies you are going to be also likely saving a lot of money on that. I'm trying to get a sense on when you talk about EBITDA, continuing to grow for the year if we break it down from -- in Wireless versus Wireline, would it be fair to say that on the Wireless side, you actually could end up with the year up on -- versus your prior expectations while Wireline would be lower than your prior expectations?

Trevor English -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer

Maher, it's Traver. That's a fair conclusion. That's exactly right. Yeah.

Maher Yaghi -- Desjardins Securities Inc. -- Analyst

Okay.

Trevor English -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer

In the near term -- in the near term, the financial performance of our Wireless business is probably, frankly, either on plan or slightly ahead of our original guidance. But clearly there is some more risk in our Wireline business than what we are striving to achieve, which is a very consistent and CAD490 million to CAD500 million of quarterly EBITDA. And, of course, I'm quoting pre-IFRS 16 numbers, but you're exactly right.

Maher Yaghi -- Desjardins Securities Inc. -- Analyst

Right. So if I take it one step further and I look at 2021, so this I guess lack of offloading that you're doing in Wireless and as there is pent-up demand, what kind of strategy can you implement to make up for the loss time of not loading customers? You're going to be facing probably a refresh cycle from your existing customer base which -- who took iPhones a couple of years ago. You also have a bunch of new customers that will churn at the same time. I am trying to figure out the impact on your working cap, on your cash flow requirements at the same time as we have 5G coming up probably next year with the spectrum auction and investment in that. So, like how do you view free cash flow in that context in 2021?

Paul McAleese -- President, Wireless

Well let me pull apart a couple of parts of that question. So first off, I don't know that we make up for lost ground here. I think the subscribers ultimately -- when the market is stalled this way, I don't know that we all of a sudden see an extra 100,000 subscribers that show up in September and October. So it will just have a natural rhythm to it. But I would say it's fair to say this probably puts a temporary hold on growth and that sort of over multiple years we will catch up, but it's not going to happen within a quarter.

In terms of how this rolls into free cash flow expectations and 5G investments, I think those are all -- this is a relatively modest bump in the road for us. If you think about the impact of adding 50,000 or 60,000 or 70,000 new subscribers on a subscriber base of 1.8 million, you can do the math, it's just simply not going to be that meaningful in terms of its contribution in the next six to 12 months. So I don't think it really puts any of our planning for 5G investments or network into jeopardy here.

Trevor English -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer

Yeah, Maher, it's probably premature to talk about F '21 in a lot of granularity considering where we're at with the environment, but I would say I sort of go back to the strength of the balance sheet, the strength of liquidity regarding spectrum acquisition costs around the CAD3,500 [Phonetic] and capital required to build out our business as we have to probably slow some things down. We've got lots of levers here and lots of financial strength to operate in that environment in F '21 when we are through this.

Maher Yaghi -- Desjardins Securities Inc. -- Analyst

That's fair. That's fair. Thank you for that. And my last question -- and I agree with you, it's tough to put new guidelines not knowing when this pandemic is going to be over. You mentioned about the free cash flow. My last question is on capex. How much capex reduction do you expect at this point in time that you'll see because of this pandemic happening? Is it a significant or material reduction in capex that you're now looking at or -- in 2020 or not material?

Trevor English -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer

Yeah. Again, it's difficult to answer that. We -- frankly, we hope it's not a material reduction in capital expenditures if we can get back to business as normal quick. But if you look at, for example, year-to-date capital within housing development and success-based capital that was about CAD200 million in the first half of the year. Clearly, that category is not going to be as high in Q3 and Q4 in the context of the environment. But it's very difficult again, Maher, to precisely predict how much less -- how much sort of capex relief and I really think of it more as deferral of capital in F '20 because of the environment and I think that's why we did -- we pulled or withdrew our previous guidance. But we tried to give some comfort around EBITDA growth still this year and free cash flow substantially in line. We just need a little bit more flexibility considering the uncertain environment.

Maher Yaghi -- Desjardins Securities Inc. -- Analyst

Definitely. Okay, thank you very much.

Trevor English -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Drew McReynolds of RBC. Please go ahead.

Drew McReynolds -- RBC Capital Markets, LLC -- Analyst

Yeah, thanks very much and condolences to you, Brad and the Shaw family and the organization and to you Paul, congrats on the position. A couple of follow-ups on my end. Maybe starting with you, Paul, on the -- just on the government pricing objective on the 2 gig to 6 gig plan. Can you talk to your big-picture view on how you're positioned relative to that? And we certainly did see a little bit of jockeying before the crisis hit from the incumbents, so love your perspective on that.

And then second, maybe for you, Trevor, just some housekeeping, in terms of the cash restructuring costs, they are below what you originally provisioned for and the TBT program seems to be substantially complete. Are you expected to kind of meet the full CAD437 million in cash restructuring? And just second question on the pension funding status, just remind us frankly where that fits. I don't -- I think you locked a lot of that exposure down a few years ago, but an update there would be great. Thank you.

Paul McAleese -- President, Wireless

Sure. [Indecipherable] I'll take it first, Trevor. [Speech Overlap] Yeah, thanks, Drew, for the kind words. We are big believers in driving greater wireless value for Canadians and that's really been the ethos we've been running this Company since we acquired it some years ago. And I think the regional carriers have demonstrated that they have been the drivers of change and the drivers of value in the market really specifically over the last two or three years. But without us, I think you'd still see the incumbents in a very different place on pricing. So the availability of affordable wireless is widespread. It may not necessarily exist on the incumbents, but it's certainly available with ourselves and our regional peers. And that quality of product, as you know, has increased substantially over the last two years specifically. So I'd start by saying that some of this to me still looks like a solution to a problem that isn't obvious to me. So with specific reference to the government's 25% sort of directive on 2 gig to 6 gig plans.

We are seeing a natural growth of data usage that's going to push a lot of customers that might be in that bucket today up into a post-6 gig or a larger than 6 gig plan two years from now regardless. You'll recall, Drew, this isn't a stage reduction, it's simply a moment in time. So it's kind of a balance sheet snapshot of it. Two years from now, the government will take a read and you don't want to see that decline. It's fine, it's not really going to affect us, I suspect [Technical Issues] a great percentage of the market. So probably not an overwhelming measure in the market by the time it's done. Look we applaud the government's initiative to try and drive change, but we think the market does that best and we've been demonstrating that really for the last number of years.'So that's really all we have to say on that. I'll hand over to Trevor.

Trevor English -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer

Yeah. Thanks, Paul and thanks Drew for the questions.

Just on the restructuring costs. So we're about [Phonetic] CAD390 million into the VDP payments and we've got about 200 folks left or so that are leaving post Q2, Drew. But just want to remind everyone that we did offer employees the option to defer the payments over two tax years. So there will be some payment -- residual payment that's left that gets paid out in January 2021 of that CAD50 million. That's why it looks like a relatively large number for a relatively few number of employees to leave the Company.

On the pension status as of February 28 or at the end of the quarter, pardon me, February 29, we're at about 85% from a funded perspective and post quarter-end clearly there's been a lot of movements specifically also with executive changes, but also -- which will reduce the liability, but also with volatility in the equity markets, which will obviously have an impact on the asset side of things. So net-net, though we don't expect a material change from the funding status, but I guess we'll have to wait to see where the interest rate environment and corporate spreads go on our quarter-end of May 31st.

Drew McReynolds -- RBC Capital Markets, LLC -- Analyst

Okay, got it. Thank you, both.

Trevor English -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer

Yeah, thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from David Barden of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Matthew -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch Inc. -- Analyst

Thank you. It's actually Matthew [Phonetic] on for David. And allow me to extend my condolences as well for the passing of JR. So my first question is, I just wanted to clarify I'm pretty sure that you are indicating that the EBITDA growth that you're expecting, it's pre-IFRS, if I'm not mistaken, it's not post IFRS. I just want you to clarify that. And then on the wireless side, assuming that this current situation could potentially last an unknown length of time, I was curious about what percentage of wireless sales or gross adds that you can generate -- have been generating in a normal environment from the online channel and if you see capacity for that to potentially increase.

Also it sounds like the consumer behavior hasn't really changed as of yet, given the dramatic change in circumstances. You've already spoken to kind of the video packages. It sounds like you haven't seen much movement aside from VOD. But in a typical slowdown or recession, how long does it typically take in the Wireline business to start to have customers reaching out to make changes? It's been said on the call that a lot of these services are kind of indispensable. And I don't suspect lots of people will drop them but just in terms of generating calls into make money saving kind of optimization changes, when would that you expect to see that behavior? Thanks.

Trevor English -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer

Maybe I'll start, Paul. Matthew, thank you. Yes, it's on pre-IFRS 16 in terms of EBITDA growth, but obviously on a post-IFRS basis it's also positive, even better. So yes and yes. Paul?

Paul McAleese -- President, Wireless

And Matt -- sorry, Matthew it's Paul. On your question about online sales, we have as an industry really been challenged by this model. It's difficult in Canada given what unfortunately is a very high degree of fraud with -- when we open this up. We have had some success and we'll continue to have success in shipping phones or upgrading phones to people with whom we already have an existing relationship. So that's obviously something that we can progress on.

We've had a bit of an uptick in recent weeks with the sale of prepaid SIMs online, which of course carries a much lower attendant risk because we're not shipping phones. So I wouldn't -- I would put by the way, our online sales like less than 1% of our total gross, it's almost de minimis and I don't expect that it will move significantly from that. So the -- unfortunately the wider you open the aperture of that, the more risk you assume and the more fraud you seem to find. So don't expect -- at least with our view of the risk, don't expect us to look to widen that channel anytime soon.

On your question about consumer behavior, how long, it's funny, it will come in stages. It probably took about a minute, when all these hit for the first customer to call and look to change their behavior. But it's again been a relatively small numerator of people who have called and look to affect their pricing with us.

Trevor and I were chatting earlier today and during the last recession, admittedly a different time and different circumstances, but we didn't see significant declines in consumer demand for our product. And I would say that Internet now is materially more critical for the management of a home, particularly with things like in-home education and stuff now. So having that turned down relative to all the other discretionary expenses in a household, it's just not something that's going to come in big waves. It's certainly -- we're definitely going to see individuals who are going to have to cut back and we're going to definitely see some cancellations like I outlined. But in the main, we have a really high degree of confidence in where this is going to settle out.

Wireless has its own unique retention capability, but Internet is just -- and you're all experiencing it, it is just reaching a level of utility and household but it's simply never experienced before. So when you look at kind of the cost per day of this and what you get out of it, we're just not seeing that many -- that much pressure on the top line here. So -- and we're encouraged by that. We'll continue to see changes in those performance -- in our performance as we see more and more people unfortunately hitting [Phonetic] the unemployment figures. But for now we're really pleased with the performance.

Matthew -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch Inc. -- Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Paul McAleese -- President, Wireless

Thank you.

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to hand the conference call back over to Mr. Shaw for closing remarks.

Bradley Shaw -- Chief Executive Officer

First of all, thank you everyone for your comments. We really appreciate the support and your thinking of the family, and we want to wish you all safety in this world we live in and all the best to you. And I would just make a point that we look forward to talking to you in early July and stay safe. Thank you. Thank you, operator.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks]

Duration: 58 minutes

Call participants:

Bradley Shaw -- Chief Executive Officer

Trevor English -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial and Corporate Development Officer

Paul McAleese -- President, Wireless

Vince Valentini -- TD Securities Inc. -- Analyst

Jeff Fan -- Scotia Capital Inc. -- Analyst

Tim Casey -- BMO Capital Markets Corp. -- Analyst

Maher Yaghi -- Desjardins Securities Inc. -- Analyst

Drew McReynolds -- RBC Capital Markets, LLC -- Analyst

Matthew -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch Inc. -- Analyst

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