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RGS earnings call for the period ending March 31, 2020.

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Regis Corp (Minn) (RGS 4.37%)
Q3 2020 Earnings Call
Jun 18, 2020, 10:00 a.m. ET


  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:


Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Regis Corporation Second Quarter Fiscal 2020 Earnings Call. My name is Gayle and I will be your conference facilitator today. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded for playback and will be available by approximately 12:00 PM Central Time today.

I'll now turn the conference over to Biz McShane, AVP Finance. Please go ahead.

Biz McShane -- Assistant Vice President, Consolidations, Technical Accounting and Reporting

Thank you, Gayle. Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining us. On the call with me today, we have Hugh Sawyer, our Chief Executive Officer; Kersten Zupfer, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Eric Bakken, President of our Franchise segment; and Amanda Rusin, our General Counsel. Before turning the call over to Hugh, there are a few housekeeping items to address. First, today's earnings release and today's conference call include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are not guarantees of performance and by their nature are subject to inherent risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from such forward-looking statements. Please refer to the company's current earnings release and recent SEC filings, including our most recent 10-Q and June 30, 2019 10-K for more information on these risks and uncertainties.

The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this call. Second, this morning's conference call must be considered in conjunction with the earnings release we issued this morning and our previous SEC filings, including our most recent 10 -K. On today's call, we will be discussing non-GAAP as-adjusted financial results that exclude the impact of certain business events and other discrete items. These non-GAAP financial measures are provided to facilitate meaningful year-over-year comparisons, but should not be considered superior to or as a substitute for our GAAP financial measures and should be read in conjunction with GAAP financial measures for the period. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in this morning's release, which is available on our website at

With that, I will now turn the call over to Hugh.

Hugh E. Sawyer -- President and Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Thank you, Biz, and good day. Although a lot has changed in the world and in our business since our last earnings call, we remain committed to a strategy; a strategy that we believe will enhance shareholder value. I expect Regis to become a company with significant long-term potential, a business we can all be proud to own. Our multi-year strategy is built around completing a refranchising plan to position our company-owned salons to a capital-light model while positioning the company for sustainable growth in units, sales and profitability. The key elements of our strategy are unchanged and include converting company-owned salons to a franchise platform. As we reported today approximately 74% of our portfolio has already been franchised, transforming the business with technology, particularly customer-facing technology, improved salon management systems and digital training.

Eliminating non-essential, non-strategic G&A. In January, we eliminated approximately $19 million in annualized G&A costs and we do intend to do more to rationalize our costs when the time is right to do so. We've been upgrading stylist recruiting and training with an emphasis, as I mentioned on digital training. We've been restructuring our portfolio in order to focus on five core brands, the Fab Five, which we expect to improve the precision and efficiency of our marketing. And we've been revitalizing our merchandise business focusing on own brands like DESIGNLINE and Blossom. Now, although our core strategy has not changed we have intelligently adapted our salon operations for the new normal with an intense focus on safety.

In March of this year various state and local government mandates resulting from the COVID-19 pandemic forced us to close, to hibernate a substantial majority of our franchise and company-owned salons. These closures significantly impacted our fiscal third quarter results and will continue to negatively impact our results in the fiscal fourth quarter, as the majority of our salons in both our franchise portfolio and company-owned portfolio remain closed during the months of April and May. Now to mitigate the negative impacts of these salons closures you may recall that we took immediate action, including a furlough program, wage reductions and aggressive management of our purchasing and payable cycles. As of the beginning of this week approximately 68% of our portfolio has reopened, that's in combination of both our franchise and company-owned salons.

We are relaunching our salon safely but at a brisk pace, and we expect to reopen roughly 81% of our salons by the end of June, the end of this month. As we reopened salons, the health and safety of our customers and stylists has been and continues to be our highest priority. As we previously reported, a cross-functional Regis team led by Eric Bakken that also included a number of our franchisees worked with infectious disease specialists at the University of Minnesota's medical school to ensure that the health and safety of our customers and stylists would be at the forefront of our salon reopening plans. These physicians provided recommendations on the proper PPE and additional safety measures that have been communicated throughout the company's entire salon portfolio in order to help educate, and prepare the company's franchise partners and stylists for operating salons safety -- with the safety emphasis in a COVID-19 environment.

Moreover, in a manner consistent with our company values James Townsend and our team in merchandise, including Andrew Priadka proactively invested a very significant amount of capital in the personal protective equipment required to safely reopen our salons. In retrospect that proved to be a very good decision here at Regis. Our new internal slogan is safety first and hair second, which I think emphasizes the company's focus on the moral imperative in doing the right thing because it's never wrong to do the right thing. Despite the hibernation period caused by the pandemic, we continued to make meaningful progress in all areas of our strategy and remain committed to our transformation to a fully franchised capital-light model on an ambitious timetable. During the quarter we sold 375 company-owned salons and transferred these salons to our asset-light franchise portfolio.

At the end of the quarter, as we reported approximately 74% of our salon portfolio has been franchise. We've also previously reported that we expected to substantially complete our refranchising by the end of this calendar year, in 2020. Given the hibernation of our business during the pandemic, this goal may be somewhat delayed but frankly, I'm still optimistic we will substantially complete transformation on an ambitious timetable. Our team is doing great work despite the challenges of the pandemic. In May, Kersten and our finance team working with advisors at Guggenheim successfully amended our credit facility that expires in March of 2023. We believe the amendment of our $295 million revolving credit facility will give us the flexibility and debt capacity to manage the business through our strategic transformation as well as the ongoing generate -- the ongoing uncertainty that's generated by the COVID-19 pandemic. We think we're in great shape as it relates to that new amendment and our balance sheet.

As we previously said, the amendment is capital-light; excuse me, covenant-light and being covenant-light means we were able to remove all prior financial covenants, including the net leverage ratio and fixed charge coverage ratio and we only added a minimum liquidity covenant that we are comfortable with. Additionally, the amendment provides the company's lenders security in the company's assets. In closing, I want to thank our franchisees and associates for their many contributions to our business during this extraordinary period in the company's nearly 100-year history. Also I want to recognize the University of Minnesota's medical school and acknowledge their support during this tragic pandemic and also grateful to each one of you for your continued interest and support.

I'll now turn the call over to Kersten to take you through the numbers. Kersten?

Kersten Zupfer -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Hugh, and good morning everyone. As Hugh mentioned, the last few months have been unprecedented but we are committed more than ever to our strategy and we continue to be pleased with the results of our restructuring and the cadence of our vendition process given the major disruption of the COVID-19 pandemic. We reported this morning on a consolidated basis third quarter revenues of $153.8 million, which represented a decrease of $104.6 million or 40.5% versus the prior year. The year-over-year revenue decline was driven primarily by the conversion of a net 1,581 company-owned salons to the company franchise portfolio over the past 12 months and the closure of 208 non-performing salons of which the majority were cash flow negative and not essential to our future plan.

In late March, we made the decision to refund to our franchise partners approximately $15 million of previously collected cooperative advertising fund contribution. Many of our franchisees were able to and have taken advantage of the government programs, which will help them recover. We wanted to provide some immediate cash relief by refunding previously collected ad compilers. Given the near-term challenges faced by our franchisees, we concluded that this accommodation would ease the financial burden associated with the government-mandated hibernation of the franchise bonds during the pandemic. This also contributed to the decline in revenue. However, it had no impact on operating income. These revenues had wins in the quarter were personally offset by a $2.1 million increase from franchise royalties and fees and a $31.8 million of rent revenue recorded in connection with the new lease accounting guidance adopted in the first quarter of fiscal 2020.

While I would normally not address technical accounting matters, it's important for me to comment on the $45 million one-time non-cash goodwill impairment charge related to our company-owned foreign segment that we reported during the quarter. This was a full impairment of company-owned goodwill. This non-cash charge is highly technical in nature and does not have any economic impact on our business model. Prior to the COVID-19 crisis, the company was on track to be recognized as goodwill over several quarters as part of our vendition strategy. The economic disruption caused by the pandemic resulted in a charge this quarter, which eliminates future de-recognition charges. Absent the goodwill impairment charge, the company-owned goodwill would have been de-recognized over the course of our transition to a franchise platform.

For clarity, with the full impairment this quarter, there will be no further goodwill de-recognition. Third quarter consolidated adjusted EBITDA of $6 million was $31.2 million or 84% unfavorable to the same period last year and was driven primarily by the decrease in the gain associated with the sale of company-owned salons of $17.8 million and the elimination of the EBITDA that had been generated in the prior year from the net 1,581 company-owned salons that have been sold and converted to the franchise portfolio over the past 12 months, partially offset by significant reductions in G&A and marketing. As we've previously discussed, you should expect the gain from the sale of company-owned salons to continue to diminish as we enter the later stages of our transformation. The COVID-19 pandemic also contributed to the decline in the third quarter.

Adjusted EBITDA by approximately $8 million due to the government mandated hibernation of salons caused by the pandemic and a decrease in guest visits leading up to the salon closures as customers across the country began to shelter in place. As a reminder, all of our company-owned salons closed near the end of March as did the substantial majority of our franchise salons. Since the closure has continued into April and May and substantially ended revenue generation during this period, we expect to experience a much greater impact on our fourth quarter results. Although the pandemic had a dramatic impact on our earnings, we are reopening our salons at a rapid pace. As Hugh mentioned, approximately 68% of our portfolio has reopened and we anticipate that as we enter our new fiscal year, the majority of our business will be operational.

Please note that excluding discrete items and the income from discontinued operations, the company reported decreased third quarter 2020 adjusted net loss of $4.5 million or $0.12 per diluted share as compared to adjusted net income of $15.4 million or $0.37 per diluted share for the same period last year. The year-over-year earnings decrease in adjusted net income is driven primarily by the decrease in adjusted gain from the sale of salons to franchisees and corresponding elimination of adjusted net income that had been generated in the prior period from the sold salons. These increases were offset by a decrease in adjusted tax expense due primarily to the impact of the valuation allowances. On a year-to-date basis, consolidated adjusted EBITDA of $52.8 million was $30.1 million or 36.3% unfavorable versus the same period last year.

The change includes a $6.9 million increase in the gain, excluding non-cash goodwill de-recognition related to the year-to-date sale and conversion of company-owned salons to the franchise portfolio. Excluding the impact of the gain and the non-cash goodwill impairment charge, third quarter year-to-date adjusted EBITDA totaled $1.9 million, which was $37 million unfavorable year-over-year and like the third quarter results this unfavorable variance is largely driven by the elimination of EBITDA related to the sold and transferred salons over the past 12 months. Looking at the segment specific performance and starting with our Franchise segment. Third quarter franchise royalties and fees of $8.7 million decreased $14.1 million or 61.8% versus the same quarter last year.

As I previously mentioned, this decline in royalties and fees is driven primarily by the one-time refunding of approximately $15 million of previously collected contributions to cooperative advertising funds, which had no impact on operating results. The decrease in advertising fund revenue was partially offset by an increase in royalties due to an increase in franchise location. Product sales to franchisees decreased $1 million year-over-year to $15.3 million, driven primarily by a $3.7 million decrease in products sold to TBG, partially offset by increased franchise salon counts. Franchise same-store sales were unfavorable 4.1% and we believe negatively impacted by the reduced guest visits leading up to the government mandated closures. Third quarter franchise adjusted EBITDA of $11.5 million improved approximately $1.7 million year-over-year driven by growth in the franchise salon portfolio partially offset by lower margins on franchise product sales.

The performance of our franchise portfolio was also challenged by the COVID-19 pandemic as well as operational complexity of onboarding new owners and transitioning salons to our more experienced owners among other factors. Year-to-date franchise adjusted EBITDA of $36.4 million improved approximately $8.3 million or 29.7% year-over-year. Looking now at the company-owned salon segments, third quarter revenue decreased $123 million or 55.7% versus the prior year to $97.9 million. This year-over-year decline is driven by and consistent with the decrease of approximately 1,561 company-owned salons over the past 12 months, which can be bucketed into three main categories. First, the conversion of 1,628 company-owned salons to our asset-light franchise platform over the course of the past 12 months of which 375 were sold during the third quarter.

Second, the closure of approximately 208 company-owned salons over the course of the last 12 months most of which were underperforming salons at lease expiration and as I noted earlier not essential to our future strategy. The next company-owned salon reductions were partially offset by 254 salons that were bought back from franchisees over the last year and 21 new company-owned organic salon openings in the last 12 months, which we expect to transition to our franchise portfolio in the months ahead. Third quarter company-owned salon segment adjusted EBITDA decreased $18.5 million year-over-year to negative $1.3 million. Consistent with the total company consolidated results the unfavorable year-over-year variance was driven primarily by the elimination of the adjusted EBITDA that have generated in the prior year from company-owned salons that were sold and converted into the franchise platform over the past 12 months.

The quarter was also unfavorably impacted year-over-year by the reduced [Indecipherable] closure of company-owned salons due to the COVID-19 pandemic and increases in stylists' minimum wage and a decline in same-store sales in our company-owned salons pre-COVID-19. On a year-to-date basis, company-owned salon consolidated adjusted EBITDA of $14.5 million or $51.7 million unfavorable versus the same period of last year. The unfavorable year-over-year variance was driven by the elimination of the adjusted EBITDA related to the sold and transferred salons over the past 12 months, partially offset by management initiatives to right size the support structure in the field. Of course, it's important to note that our company-owned salon performance will continue to become less critical to the future trajectory of our business as we continue our conversion to a capital-light franchise model.

Turning now to corporate overhead, third quarter adjusted EBITDA of $4.3 million decreased $14.4 million and is primarily driven by the $17.8 million decline in net gains excluding non-cash goodwill de-recognition from the sale of company-owned salon. Partially offset by the net impact of management initiatives to eliminate non-core, non-essential G&A expense and lower year-over-year equity compensation due to the reversal of equity expense related to the [Indecipherable]. In January, based on the improved visibility and to the speed of our transition, we began meaningful reductions in our G&A expenses by eliminating approximately 290 positions including 15 contractors across the U.S. and Canada, which is expected to result an $19 million of annualized G&A expense savings. Lastly I wanted to point out that vendition cash proceeds during the quarter were approximately $49,000 per salon compared to approximately $71,000 per salon in the second quarter of fiscal 2020.

As you may recall from our previous earnings calls, we've cautioned that we are venditioning more Signature Style salons this fiscal year, which could lower net proceeds per salon due to the cost of converting some of these salons as part of our brand consolidation efforts along with more SmartStyle vendition. Additionally, the COVID-19 pandemic caused us to temporarily suspend the vendition process to the end of March and we've just started, restarted the process. Looking now at the balance sheet, at the end of the quarter, we made $183 million draw on our revolving credit facility. This draw was done to increase our cash position and preserve financial flexibility in light of the COVID-19 pandemic. This increased our cash balance to $241 million as of the end of March.

As Hugh previously mentioned in May we amended our revolving credit facility that expires in March of 2023. This successful amendment provides relief for the maximum consolidated net leverage covenant and minimum fixed charge coverage ratio covenant. Given our successful vendition process, we have known for some time that our existing credit facility would not be appropriate for our end state franchise business and that we need to reengineer our credit facility to meet the opportunities inherent in our new business product. We are very pleased with the new credit facility terms and appreciate the support of our bank syndicate.

We believe the new amendment will provide the long-term flexibility we need to see our strategy through to completion and enable us to successfully navigate the uncertainties caused by this pandemic. In summary, our third and fourth quarters have proven to be unprecedented in our history. However, despite the hibernation of our business, we successfully amended our credit facility and continued forward momentum of our vendors and strategy. We continue to believe that we will complete our transformation and be well-positioned to generate long-term shareholder value.

With that, I'd like to thank you for your continued support and interest in Regis. And I'll now turn the call back to Gayle for questions. Gayle?

Questions and Answers:


Thanks Hugh and Kersten. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is coming from Steph Wissink from Jefferies. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Stephanie Wissink -- Jefferies -- Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Hugh, I have a couple of questions for you and then Kersten as well. I know you don't typically like to give comps by month, but I think it would be just helpful to scope the business coming through January, February into the downturn in March, and then being down April, May, and then what you've seem so far in the recovery in June as your salons have reopened, if you're willing to just give us even conceptually some shape of the comp performance, that would be helpful?

Hugh E. Sawyer -- President and Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Sure, Steph, and I think what I'll do just at a higher level, I'll set the table here for Eric. It's still such early days in the reopening cycle, but you're right we are reluctant to say more than we should say. But I think Eric can give you a pretty good flavor of what we're seeing as franchise was ahead of the company-owned salons on the reopening schedule. So Eric, why don't you talk about what we're seeing in the Franchise business because that will give you some good insight into the contextual patterns we're seeing Steph.

Eric A. Bakken -- Executive Vice President, President of Franchise

Sure. Thanks, Hugh. Hi Steph. Good question and I think it is helpful to understand. I'll take both parts of your question. The first part as it relates to the quarter, if you looked at January and February, we were performing very well on the franchise side, can always be better, of course, but we were up 2.4% in service and 1.5% in total and for Supercuts, we were up 3.3% in service and 2.7% total so that's for January-February across our franchise business, then March we were down 19%, which pushed our number down to a negative 4%. So that I think clarifies what happened in the quarter and what we've seen -- we started opening salons on the franchise side in April 24 and Georgia and Oklahoma were our first two states and then we've been opening ever since and now we have north of 4,000 franchise salons open. And we're starting to get to the point where we have a meaningful number of salons that have been opened more than 30 days. So we can start to gauge what's happening with the haircut cycle.

So I'll give you a high level kind of view of what we've seen. Starting out that when we opened in states, we did a nice job of opening as soon as we could. In most instances, we were very well-prepared. Our franchisees did terrific work here. And so, we would see pent-up demand for the first week. I mean very busy full on, no additional capacity, etc. And then, once you got first -- through that first seven days, you would see that demand start to subside. And so, we see that, so it would go up significantly then back down. And what we're seeing now as I mentioned, since we have a meaningful number of salons that are past that 30-day period and getting into new haircut cycle, we're seeing it come back up again, which is very good news. We knew we would get the first visit, what we were -- what we set out to do with our safety culture is to make sure that our customers felt safe and our stylists felt safe and our salons and wanted to make sure obviously that they would come back for future visits and we're seeing that in the numbers.

So, I won't give you the specific numbers, but I can tell you that's generally the way it's been working and of course, we're dealing with issues in the salons and doing good work with capacity constraints that we have. So, on the salon staff, if you had six stations and you had three on each side with social distancing we're generally closing one of those stations in each sites so we're going from six to four and that can be OK on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, maybe a little bit on Thursday. As we get into the busier times and for busier salons that capacity can constrain our revenues even with increased hours. So, we've been working creatively to free up that capacity in our salons. Things like moving the front desk to the front of the salon, adding a portable station -- even if you can get one more station in that example one or two, that's very helpful. So, it's a step up that's we've been seeing and I'll stop there.

Hugh E. Sawyer -- President and Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Okay, Kersten.

Stephanie Wissink -- Jefferies -- Analyst

That's incredibly helpful.

Hugh E. Sawyer -- President and Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

I think it's also true to say I think Kersten that closed salons are not in the number, right, in the same-store sales number.

Stephanie Wissink -- Jefferies -- Analyst

That's right. So the decline that you see in comp in March is -- people starting to shelter in place, but we still have the salon open. Once the salon closes [Indecipherable] also included in the comp.

Eric A. Bakken -- Executive Vice President, President of Franchise

Yeah. And our franchisees hung in there for a fair amount of time. And so, when we were moving through March, you're right, Kersten, you are exactly right -- the transactions and the traffic was curtailing dramatically even though they kept some of those salons open. So, if they're open for just a few hours, they would still ruin the comp and that hurt us as well.

Stephanie Wissink -- Jefferies -- Analyst

Okay. Kersten, that's an interesting point of technicality. So when the salon closes, it falls out of the comp base. So when you report your June quarter comps, will the months of April and May reflect zero salons? While, Eric you mentioned a few are opening in the latter part of April. So, could you just help us scope from a technicality perspective, will you report a fully loaded comp in the June quarter or an adjusted comp? How should we be modeling the June quarter?

Kersten Zupfer -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. I think that's a tricky one in terms of the comp. It's been -- it's hard for us to focus and model on a comp basis because we've had salons closed for a majority of the quarter. So I think we can take that offline in terms of modeling how we want to do that -- how you want to do that going forward with the uniqueness of what happened in April and May and both salons are being included in the comp.

Stephanie Wissink -- Jefferies -- Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And then two really quick ones. Just on the share dislocation, clearly the independent chains and the independent salons, they are feeling a significant amount of pressure. So if you can just help us maybe Hugh, to think through share opportunities for your franchise network in terms of those local salon business. And then Eric for you just to remind us, are you seeing any price increases across the menu or any surcharges being added to the tickets to cover some of the incremental COVID-related expenses.

Hugh E. Sawyer -- President and Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

So, it's Hugh. Steph as to the first part of your question. I think, and I think you've heard me say that the COVID pandemic is a tragic thing for the country and was very difficult for our company. But I've been consistent in saying now for several years that a recession would be very good for Regis. I said that coming in the door in 2017 that the recession, particularly a jobs related recession would enable us to recruit more stylists, which are our production employee, and would bring significant pressure to bear on independent salon operators.

I'm sorry that the recession came as a consequence of COVID but frankly, from a competitive standpoint I'm delighted it's here because I think it will bring significant pressure to bear on small mom-and-pop shops. And I believe that many customers who had moved upmarket to higher priced services will come back into the value chain because they're -- so many families today are under economic pressure and rather than go to a high end barber shop and pay $50 for a haircut, they're going to come back to Supercuts and get a better haircut for a much lower price.

So COVID-19 pandemic, terrible; recession, good news and I feel good about it. Pressure on the competition and I believe it will drive customers back into our salons, to value salons and I think that's going to make hiring stylists a lot easier than it's been over the last few years. As to pricing, and broadly speaking, I don't think any consumer facing business today is in a position where they can't adjust pricing. I think it costs more to run businesses safely in the COVID environment. And I think all businesses that are consumer-facing are in a circumstance where they've got to adjust pricing for the new normal. We're certainly doing that in our business in both company-owned salons and our -- although we don't control the pricing in our franchise segment, don't want to.

My understanding is a lot of our franchisees have done the same. So whether you're in the restaurant business or you run a bar or you run a hotel or you run hair salons, it costs more to do some of the things we're doing today. And my own point of view is it's wise to adjust pricing for the new normal. We've done that in our company-owned salons through surcharges and our franchisees are adjusting and using several different mechanisms as we all continue to learn more around what it cost to operate and what the volumes are going to be. But I think price increases are at least, in my point of view I think they're inevitable.

Eric A. Bakken -- Executive Vice President, President of Franchise

Go ahead, go ahead Steph, sorry.

Stephanie Wissink -- Jefferies -- Analyst

No, please go ahead Eric.

Eric A. Bakken -- Executive Vice President, President of Franchise

I got disconnected. So I missed most of it. So I'll be very brief, because I don't want to be redundant. But yeah, on the franchise side virtually all franchisees are taking price and will likely take more as we go forward. Obviously, I'm sure you mentioned the costs have gone up, service times have increased and so you'll see us -- you'll see franchisees taking more price as we go forward.

Hugh E. Sawyer -- President and Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

I think, you're going to see the same thing too, Steph, in restaurants and everybody is going to have to do it. So, sorry to interrupt. Go ahead.

Stephanie Wissink -- Jefferies -- Analyst

No, I just wanted to just tidy up housekeeping number that you typically give us.

Hugh E. Sawyer -- President and Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors


Stephanie Wissink -- Jefferies -- Analyst

Which is the percentage of your remaining opco salons that are under LOI. I know you've paused your venditioning cycle, but any update on the progress around some of those conversations?

Hugh E. Sawyer -- President and Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

We've had a number of questions about that along the way past. We had a substantial majority of our company-owned salons. We're in various stages of negotiation at the time we entered hibernation, and by a substantial number, I mean, the great majority, and the majority of those were actually under a written agreement. So we're working back through that list to make certain that we can close on those deals, and move them into the franchised sector. And I think Eric and I -- we've had such a terrific track record in this area. It's interesting stuff. Kurt Landwehr who runs a lot of our corporate development side and goes out and recruits news franchisees said something interesting to me a few weeks ago.

He said that during the period after 2008 and '09 in the last -- in the Great Recession, the period after the Great Recession was one of the best times to be in franchise recruiting because so many corporate people who had lost their jobs as a result of the of the Great Recession decided they wanted to own their own businesses and control their destiny. So Eric may have a different point of view. I'll let him speak to this too, but I think, I still -- I'm really, I feel confident that we're going to get this done and that we'll move through the portfolio and that the timing will be on about what we originally thought. What we felt we get it done this calendar we may slip a little bit but I don't think it's going to be much. And Eric you can address that too if you'd like.

Eric A. Bakken -- Executive Vice President, President of Franchise

Sure. No, that's spot on. We're feeling good about -- we stayed very close with the folks that we had agreements with to buy stores all through the closures, etc. And we continue to stay close with them and we're making good progress. It does take a little more time now to get them transferred. One of the things that lenders are requiring in many instances is that we open the salons first, prior to transfer. So we're going through that right now. But we're optimistic that not only will we get through the ones that we have agreements on but in a smaller number where we don't have agreements we're making progress in those negotiations as well. It's not as simple as it was back in February but we're confident as Hugh said that we'll get these through and we're still recruiting owners as Hugh mentioned, and we're pleased with the way that's going as well.

Hugh E. Sawyer -- President and Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Steph, a good way to say this is, I don't lose any sleep over the refranchising. I'm not losing any sleep on that. I'm not losing any sleep on G&A reductions. We've known for two years that we needed to address that and we will. And if you ask me what keeps me awake at night, it's just the lack of visibility. We're going to have to wait and see what this -- get a little more experience in the COVID environment and see how the salons look and the volumes look and like any other business that has variable expenses and costs, we'll adjust accordingly. The new normal isn't a catastrophic circumstance. It just means you adjust your business for the reality of the business you have and it's not the first -- this company has been in business for almost a 100 years. If we can survive the Great Depression and World War II, the many other recessions that this company has gone through, we'll get through this too. We just got to wait and see what the number -- get a little more visibility in the numbers and we'll adjust just like we have so many other times.

Stephanie Wissink -- Jefferies -- Analyst

All right, great. Thank you guys for the information.

Hugh E. Sawyer -- President and Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

You bet.

Eric A. Bakken -- Executive Vice President, President of Franchise

Thank you.


This concludes the Q&A portion of the call. I will now turn the conference back to you Hugh.

Hugh E. Sawyer -- President and Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Well thanks everyone. And we appreciate your ongoing support and interest and we wish you Godspeed and stay safe. And please leave your homes and go get your haircut at a Regis salon near you. Thank you everybody. Bye-bye.


Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our conference call for today. If you wish to access the replay for this presentation, you may do so by visiting in the Investor Relations section of the website or by dialing in 1-888-203-1112, access code 5153028. Thank you all for participating and have a nice day. All parties may now disconnect.

Duration: 41 minutes

Call participants:

Biz McShane -- Assistant Vice President, Consolidations, Technical Accounting and Reporting

Hugh E. Sawyer -- President and Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Directors

Kersten Zupfer -- Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer

Eric A. Bakken -- Executive Vice President, President of Franchise

Stephanie Wissink -- Jefferies -- Analyst

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