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HAFC earnings call for the period ending March 31, 2021.

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Hanmi Financial Corp (HAFC 0.62%)
Q1 2021 Earnings Call
Apr 27, 2021, 5:00 p.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Hanmi Financial Corporation's First Quarter 2021 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Following the presentation, the conference will be open for questions.

I would now like to introduce Lasse Glassen, Managing Director at ADDO Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Lasse Glassen -- Managing Director

Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining us today. With me to discuss Hanmi Financial's first quarter 2021 earnings are Bonnie Lee, President and Chief Executive Officer; Anthony Kim, Chief Banking Officer; and Rom Santarosa, Chief Financial Officer. Ms. Lee will begin with an overview of the quarter. Mr. Kim will discuss loan and deposit activities and Mr. Santarosa will then provide more details on our operating performance. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions.

On today's call, we may include comments and forward-looking statements based on current plans, expectations, events and financial industry trends that may affect the company's future operating results and financial position. Our actual results could be different from those expressed or implied by our forward-looking statements, which involve risks and uncertainties.

The speakers on this call claim the protection of the safe harbor provisions contained in the Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. For a list of certain factors that may cause our results to differ from our expectations, please refer to our SEC filings, included in our most recent Form 10-K and Form 10-Qs. In particular, we direct you to the discussion of certain risk factors affecting our business contained in our earnings release, our investor presentation and our Form 10-K.

This afternoon Hanmi Financial issued a news release outlining our financial results for the first quarter of 2021, along with a supplemental slide presentation to accompany today's call. Both documents can be found in the Investor Relations section of our website at hanmi.com.

I'll now turn the call over to Bonnie Lee. Bonnie?

Bonita I. Lee -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Lasse. Good afternoon everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Hanmi's 2021 first quarter results. Our performance in the first quarter represented a solid start to 2021. During the quarter, we benefited from a strong growth in deposits, solid loan production and careful expense management, which contributed to the significant earnings expansion. As the country emerges from the pandemic and macroeconomic conditions continue to improve, momentum is building and I believe Hanmi is well positioned for the year ahead.

With that as a backdrop, the following are the key financial and operational takeaways from the first quarter. We generated net income of $16.7 million or $0.54 per diluted share, up from both the prior quarter and the same quarter last year. I am very pleased with this result, which was near all-time record for a single quarter. Earnings in the quarter benefited from lower credit loss expense, more interest expense and gains on the sale of the second draw Paycheck Protection Program or PPP loans. And what is traditionally our lowest -- slowest quarter of the year for new loan production, new loan origination volume in the first quarter was notably strong and nearly offset the normal loan one-off, loan sales and forgiveness and the first draw of PPP loans.

Net interest margin of a 3.09% was down just slightly from the prior quarter as the reduction in deposit costs nearly offset the decline in yield and earning assets. Deposits were up 4.5% from the prior quarter and 20.2% from the first quarter last year. Once again, growth in the total deposits this past quarter came from non-interest bearing demand deposit accounts, which now represent nearly 40% of our total deposits, up from 30% a year ago.

First quarter net interest expense adjusted for the second draw cost capitalization or flat on both the linked quarter and year-over-year basis and declined significantly on an absolute basis.

And finally, Hanmi remains very well capitalized. Hanmi's regulatory capital ratios remained strong and we are well positioned to continue growing safely. Next, I would like to provide an update on our modified loan portfolio and the positive trends we continue to see as we emerge from the pandemic. At year-end 2020, we had significantly reduced the modified loan balance $156 million or approximately 3% of the portfolio. And as of the end of the first quarter of 2021, the balance has been further reduced by 25% to $117 million and stood at just 2.4% of the portfolio.

At the end of the first quarter 89% of the modified loans are providing a modified payment, up from 87% at year-end. For all loans we've comprised the current modified portfolio. We have completed detailed reviews of our borrowers financial condition. In some cases we have required additional credit enhancements. I firmly believe our commitment to proactive asset management has significantly helped both the borrowers and the bank.

Looking at the key asset quality metrics, criticized loans increased in the first quarter by $26.3 million, reflecting our aforementioned ongoing proactive asset management practices, part of the money, 58% of the total criticized loan balance was made up of loans that were adversely affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. I was very pleased with the substantial first quarter reduction in non-accrual loans. In total non-accrual loans declined nearly 34% in the quarter to $55.1 million or 1.14% of loans. The improvement was driven by several loan relationships that were positively dispositioned during the first quarter with a minimum or no loss. At the end of the first quarter, our allowance for credit losses was a $88.4 million and stood at 1.94% of loans excluding P3 loans.

We also continued to have a separate allowance for possible losses and accrued interest receivable for loans currently or previously modified under the CARES Act, now down to $1.2 million. Given our strong allowance and capital position and proactive asset management practices, I am confident we are all well-positioned to manage asset quality, as we emerge from the pandemic and the economy recovers.

Now I would like to shift gears and provide an update on several key initiatives for 2021 that are designed to provide our customers with additional products and services. Further diversify our sources of revenue and drive growth. Beginning with our new residential mortgage platform. First quarter lending activity, included approximately $12 million of residential mortgage along with a $27 million of warehouse lending. We have developed the strong relationships with the several correspondent lenders, which we believe is the most efficient way to build our residential portfolio.

Looking ahead, we expect residential mortgage production will be higher in the second quarter and continue to ramp during the year with the goal of our residential mortgage loans comprising 10% to 15% of the Hanmi's loan origination activity in 2021.

Next in our digital initiative, which we have developed the digital banking platform to more efficiently scale our services while providing a more convenient and seamless customer experience. The platform is currently assessing online CV and savings deposit. Later in the year, we expect to add a demand deposit feature to the platform and more aggressively market our digital capabilities to current and prospective customers.

And finally, I continue to be pleased with the result of our Corporate Korea initiative, which is focused on developing and expanding banking relationships with the Korean company with the presence or offices in the United States. We recently hired a new relationship manager with a deep relationship in the corporate Korean business community to augment our effort, which includes test at seven strategically located at Hanmi branches.

First quarter Corporate Korean -- Corporate Korea's loan production was very strong and at quarter-end had contributed 11% of our total loans. With a very strong pipeline, we expect the Corporate Korea program to generate double-digit growth in loan production in 2021.

With that, I would like to turn the call over to Anthony Kim, our Chief Banking Officer to discuss the first quarter loan production result and deposit gathering activity. Anthony?

Anthony Kim -- Chief Banking Officer

Thank you, Bonnie. Hanmi generated solid loan production volume totaling $348 million in the quarter, up 6.2% from the prior quarter's volume of $327.8 million. Growth was driven by strength in SBA loans, which included $131.5 million second draw PPP loans, partially offset by lower production of C&I and CRE loans in the seasonally slower first quarter. More specifically, first-quarter production consisted primarily of $103.1 million of CRE loans, $41.9 million of C&I loans and $155.9 million of SBA loans.

Rounding up, first-quarter production was $34.1 million of commercial equipment leases. Newly generated loans for the quarter excluding second draw SBA loans had a weighted average yield of 4.05%.

I would also like to mention that commitments under commercial lines of credit increased more than 18% from a year ago to $605 million. However, balances on these lines fell by $9.5 million compared to the first quarter of last year, reflecting a first-quarter utilization rate of 42.8%.

Finally, we did see some of our March production slip into April and we believe that production should continue in a robust manner. During the first quarter, Hanmi sold non-PPP 7(a) SBA loans, generating a gain on sale of $1.7 million and I was pleased with our execution as SBA 7(a) trade premiums increased to 10.66% in the period.

In addition, we also saw second draw PPP loans at a net premium of 2.35%, generating an additional $2.5 million in gain on sale in the quarter. First-quarter payoffs of $167 million remained in line with levels experienced in the recent quarters, but were further elevated by $44.3 million of forgiveness on first draw PPP loans. The weighted average interest rate of the loans that paid off in the period, excluding PPP, was 4.73% or 68 basis points higher than the same adjusted weighted average yield of new production in the quarter. The solid loan production in the quarter coupled with the loan pay-offs and sales resulted in loans of $4.82 billion at the end of first quarter, essentially unchanged from the prior quarter, excluding PPP loans.

Hanmi remains committed to conservative, disciplined underwriting criteria for the commercial real estate portfolio consistent with the asset quality data from prior quarters. The weighted average loan-to-value and weighted average debt coverage ratio as of the end of first quarter were only 48.6% and 1.9 times respectively. In light of the economic disruption caused by pandemic, we expect to maintain more conservative underwriting standards, which includes limiting origination activities within certain high-risk industries and closely the monitoring the economic impact on our customers over the near term.

Now I would like to provide an update on our hospitality portfolio. The segment of our portfolio that has been most impacted by the pandemic. As of March 31st, hospitality loans totaled $888 million or 18% of total portfolio, down from 19% at year-end. Overall, we believe our hospitality zones are conservatively underwritten. The average loan balance remains at just $3.3 million with a weighted average debt coverage ratio of 2 times and the weighted average loan-to-value ratio of 50.1% at origination.

At quarter-end, 11% of our hospitality portfolio was criticized with approximately half of these loans stemming from metropolitan-based properties. However, we have obtained in the last 12 months, current appraisals for these properties and the current weighted average loan-to-value of all the criticized hospitality loans was 69.3% with a range of 47% to 81% for loans greater than $5 million. This reflects we believe the particular property location, not necessarily a systematic decline in valuations.

Furthermore, non-accrual hospitality loans represents only 1% of this portfolio with only two loans over $3 million. Overall, we believe our exposure to the hospitality segment and the related risk in the current environment are manageable. We remain vigilant in working with our effective hospitality customers to help them through the prices.

Moving on to deposit gathering activities, we have a very strong first quarter. Total deposits were $5.51 billion at end of quarter compared with a $5.28 billion at the end of preceding quarter, representing a 4.5% quarter-over-quarter increase and a 20.2% increase from a year ago. Importantly, we continue to benefit from an improving mix shift of deposits as much of the growth is being driven by non-interest bearing demand deposits. In fact, as Bonnie mentioned, non-interest bearing demand deposits now represent nearly 40% of total deposits, up from 30% a year ago.

I would now like to turn the call over to Rom Santarosa, our Chief Financial Officer. Ron?

Romolo C. Santarosa -- Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Anthony, and good afternoon all. Let's begin at the top where we posted $46 million of debt increased revenues, down sequentially because of two fewer days in the quarter. Looking a bit deeper, we saw a 1.2% growth in average interest-earning assets, offset to 4 basis point decline in net interest margin. More than half of the growth in earning assets came from our loan portfolio, while the remainder occurred in lower-yielding securities and deposits at the Fed. In addition, while we did see some first draw PPP loan forgiveness in the quarter, it had little effect on our debt interest revenues.

Turning to our net interest margin, relatively steady at 3.09%. Our loan yields declined 10 basis points from the fourth quarter to 4.24%, while the cost of our interest-bearing deposits dropped 15 basis points to 0.49%.

Notably, the spread between the yield on earning assets and the rate paid on interest-bearing liabilities was 281 basis points for the first quarter, nearly the same as the 280 basis points for the fourth quarter and the 280 basis points for the first quarter a year ago where we had a much different interest rate environment. As Anthony noted, the weighted average interest rates on new loan production for the first quarter excluding, second draw PPP loans was 4.05% below our first-quarter loan portfolio average yield. However, we also have been touring time deposits for the second quarter with a weighted average interest rate of 65 basis points that will mature into lower rate time deposits.

In addition, at the end of the first quarter, we saw a significant growth in non-interest bearing demand deposits and the concomitant growth in lower yielding balances at the Fed. As a result, we expect the tension between the continued shift to the current rate environment as what was the continued shift in the mix of earning assets and funding should allow for the net interest margin to remain relatively steady.

Moving to our net interest income of $9.8 million. We realized a $2.5 million gain from the sale of second draw of PPP loans at a net premium of 2.35%. At the end of the first quarter, loans held for sale included $21.7 million of second draw of PPP loans and we expect to sell in the second quarter. We also had $1.7 million gains from the sale of traditional SBA loans at a net premium of 10.66%. At the end of the first quarter, traditional SBA loans held for sale were $10.9 million.

Non-interest expenses were $29.5 million for the first quarter, down 4.5% from the fourth quarter, principally because of the $1.4 million of capitalized costs from the second draw of PPP loans. The efficiency ratio was 52.92% for the first quarter. However, adjusting for security gains in second draw PPP loan gains and origination costs, the efficiency ratio would have been 58.07%. Pulling this all together from a pre-tax pre-provision perspective and adjusting for the effects of second draw of PPP loans as well as certain other items, we saw pre-tax pre-provision income of $22.1 million, down from the fourth quarter, but again, primarily because the two fewer days in the quarter.

Our credit loss expense for the first quarter was $2.1 million. This included a provision for loan losses of $1 million, a negative provision for off balance sheet items of $0.5 million and another $1.5 million negative provision for losses on accrued interest receivable on loans previously or currently modified under the CARE Act. We also established a $2.1 million allowance for possible losses on SBA guarantee repair loss. Looking to the balance sheet, our allowance for credit losses decreased to $88.4 million from $90.4 million after a provision of $1 million and net charge-offs of $3 million. Included in the allowance for credit losses were $12.2 million of allowances associated with individually impaired loans down $1.9 million from the event. While macroeconomic conditions continue to improve, we believe our allowance for credit losses adequately reflects various economic forecasts as well as the heightened levels of near-term uncertainty as we continue to emerge from the pandemic.

We will continue to closely monitor and evaluate the evolving economic environment and we find our outlook and update our loss allowances accordingly. Our return on average assets and return on average equity in the first quarter were 1.08% and 11.63% respectively. And finally, our tangible book value increased to $18.59 per common share at the end of the first quarter and our tangible common equity ratio remained strong at 8.87% as do all of our regulatory capital ratios.

And with that, I'll turn it over to Bonnie.

Bonita I. Lee -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Ron. As we slowly emerge from this crisis, I couldn't be more proud of the hard work done by our employees across all of our locations, who have supported our customers in this unique environment. Looking ahead, I believe Hanmi is well positioned to continue driving profitable growth as the pandemic subsides and macroeconomic conditions continue to improve. I look forward to sharing our continued progress with you when we report our second quarter results in July. Thank you.

Anthony Kim -- Chief Banking Officer

Operator, that concludes our prepared remarks. We'd now like to open the call for questions.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is with Matthew Clark from Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question.

Matthew Clark -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Hey, good afternoon.

Bonita I. Lee -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Hi, Matthew.

Matthew Clark -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Maybe starting on the PPP, did I hear you guys correctly that you plan to sell the remaining amount of PPP loans here in the second quarter it. If not, I'm just trying to get a sense for, what's remaining in terms of net fees.

Romolo C. Santarosa -- Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes, Matthew. This is Ron. So we plan to sell the second draw PPP loans $21.7 million with respect to first draw of PPP loans, which are about $256 million at the end of the quarter. We will continue to let that may be reduced by forgiveness and any payments that the borrowers wish to make.

Matthew Clark -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Okay. And do you have that remaining amount. I think it's around $6 million or so, the remaining...

Romolo C. Santarosa -- Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

3.7...

Matthew Clark -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Go ahead.

Romolo C. Santarosa -- Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

$3.7 million.

Matthew Clark -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

$3.7 million, OK. Thanks. Okay. And then your production was good, balances loan balances ex PPP were flattish, though. I think coming out of last quarter you were guiding to low-to-mid single digit growth. I assume that's still the case for the year?

Bonita I. Lee -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah.

Matthew Clark -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Okay. Any updated thoughts on the non-interest expense outlook. I know the $1.4 million was a little unusual this quarter, but excluding that modest growth is that also still expected, low-single digits?

Romolo C. Santarosa -- Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I think Matt, you can probably continue to expect, I'll say inflationary solid growth. So trending at about $30 million a quarter, give or take. That sounds about right.

Matthew Clark -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Okay. And on the increase in criticized loans, the additions this quarter, can you give us some color there as to what was added?

Bonita I. Lee -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Sure. In the special mentioned category, we have inflow about three hospitality loans and it happens to be this upper teens or either to tourist spot or the airport. So all three of them if you combine them, it's over $20 million. So that's the contribution to the specialty category. And for the substandard, we have basically one loan to a media media company that was impacted by COVID that has contributed to the increase in the substandard category.

Matthew Clark -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Okay. Got it. And then just on the share repurchase plan. Given where your shares are today relative to where they were on average at least with the price you bought them during the first quarter. Should we suspect that buyback activity will be more muted here going forward?

Romolo C. Santarosa -- Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

We'll continue to do share repurchases. I'll say in the ordinary course as market conditions allow.

Matthew Clark -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Okay, fair enough, thanks.

Operator

Our next question is with Kelly Motta with KBW. Please proceed with your question.

Kelly Motta -- KBW -- Analyst

Hi, hi Ronnie and Bon. Sorry, Ron and Bonnie, good afternoon. Yeah, you can call it late in the earning season right now. And with regards to credit given where everything is with the movement between criticized and special mention. Do you expect any more kind of negative migration from our hotel portfolio, should that not occurred, do you think that reserves are adequate for the losses that could potentially close through. And then should there be greater improvement there could be further releases ahead as we've seen another ranks.

Bonita I. Lee -- President and Chief Executive Officer

So let me let me respond to the first part of the question. So in terms of COVID impacted hospitality loans in the criticized category. I think most of the loans have surfaced that and we're hoping that the, that this pretty hospitality industries activities are picking off. So looking forward, I hope that we don't have additional downgrade. But I think within the next couple of quarters and we'll see the activities in and out, and there will be some of the properties loans that will be moving out of the category and possibly maybe there's some moving from special mention to sub-category. So it depends on the more of the -- more inventory outlook in the hospitality industry. In terms of the result, I think we're adequately reserved as currently viewing, I think it's maybe too early to talk about the reserve.

Kelly Motta -- KBW -- Analyst

Got it. Okay, thank you. And with expenses, I'm sorry, I think, I think you started to talk about it in your prepared remarks, but I may have missed that. With PPP round two, what was the amount of deferred expenses that remained deferred in Q1? I assume, sales would accelerate the recognition, but just wondering what the impact was to 1Q expenses to kind of figure out a good go-forward rate to use.

Romolo C. Santarosa -- Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Sure. So I would ask you to think PPP as two discrete ideas. The first discrete idea is second draw, which we've originated and we will sell. So those capitalized costs are in the first quarter and they were $1.4 million. The first draw PPP loans, which we have about $256 million, those are on the balance sheet and they will go through the forgiveness process or repayment process. They have $3.7 million of net deferred fees remaining in those balances.

Kelly Motta -- KBW -- Analyst

Got it. Thank you. And maybe one final question on deposits, obviously some really good growth especially in non-interest bearing. Do you have a sense of how much of that -- I know it's a difficult question, but how much of that is related to stimulus and PPP? And what is your expectation for how sticky that core deposit growth is?

Anthony Kim -- Chief Banking Officer

Well, out of total PPP growth is about $270 million, obviously, we did and $131.5 million of PPP second round. So we think $130 million is to keep the second round. And other increase was due to some of these new accounts that we've acquired in first quarter, as well as balance increase from the existing customers that we acquired last year. So from the organic growth, I think we're estimating about 60% to 70% will be sticky.

Kelly Motta -- KBW -- Analyst

Got it. Thank you so much. That's very helpful. I'll step back now.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is with Tim Coffey from Janney. Please proceed with your question.

Timothy Coffey -- Janney Montgomery Scott -- Analyst

Great, thanks. Afternoon, everybody. As you look at the round 2 PPP loans, with the majority of those two existing clients, are there new class next in there?

Matthew Clark -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Those are two, mostly existing clients.

Timothy Coffey -- Janney Montgomery Scott -- Analyst

Okay, that's great. And then, Ron, what's the -- how do you think about the tax rate, as you roll through the year?

Romolo C. Santarosa -- Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So a little bit higher in the first quarter just because of the timing of certain discrete events. But I think for the year, it should trend more toward a 30% effective tax rate.

Timothy Coffey -- Janney Montgomery Scott -- Analyst

Okay. Well, those are my questions. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question is with Jason Stewart from Jones Trading. Please proceed with your question.

Jason Stewart -- JonesTrading Institutional Services, LLC -- Analyst

Thanks. Ron, I wanted to talk about the securities portfolio for a second and how you view the attractiveness of securities in particular as rates backed up in 1Q versus where they are today.

Romolo C. Santarosa -- Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Well, I guess I can keep it simple in saying the alternative is balance is a 10 basis points. So when 10 basis points is your baseline, a lot could look attractive, but we prefer in terms of investment keeping the duration right now. Basically, Stewart, I think we're around on an effective basis about 3.5-ish. So we'll continue to look at mortgage-backs. We do like amortizing securities. We enjoy the cash flow that gives us better reinvestment opportunity each month.

Jason Stewart -- JonesTrading Institutional Services, LLC -- Analyst

Okay, thank you. And then a quick follow-up. I do believe you mentioned the amount of loans in hospitality that were modified. But I think I missed that, do you -- could you provide that?

Romolo C. Santarosa -- Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

It was $86.7 million...

Jason Stewart -- JonesTrading Institutional Services, LLC -- Analyst

86. --

Romolo C. Santarosa -- Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

$86.7 million.

Jason Stewart -- JonesTrading Institutional Services, LLC -- Analyst

Yes, what was the -- sorry, what was the total amount of modified?

Bonita I. Lee -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Total modified loans are $116 million each.

Romolo C. Santarosa -- Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Correct, $116 million.

Jason Stewart -- JonesTrading Institutional Services, LLC -- Analyst

Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

Operator

Our next question is from Gary Tenner with DA Davidson. Please proceed with your question.

Gary Tenner -- DA Davidson & Co. -- Analyst

Thanks, good afternoon. I just wanted to talk a little bit about the Corporate Korea initiative. You talked about the pipeline that you expected to generate double-digit growth, loan production this year. Can you talk a little more about what are the typical types of loans you're making there? Do you have any, I guess deposit relationships thus far, coming out of that endeavor? And what the outlook might be in terms contribution on that side of the balance sheet?

Bonita I. Lee -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Sure. When we first initiated the Corporate Korea project or initiative, this was a more of C&I place, but it's growing to be more both the C&I as well as in CRE loans, as well as a tremendous DDA contribution and part of DDA increase that -- and the mentioned about from new accounts that we acquired in the last year as well as this quarter. So it's a both side of the balance sheet and what we -- in terms of type of loans that we see, as I said it's a live facility as well as some of the commercial real estate that Corporate Korean companies are buying out in the United States. And then I had explained this I think last quarter, I mentioned that it's a little bit different than the type of the commercial real estate that we entertained in the past, whereas corporate Korea companies look for a class type of the properties in the major metropolitan cities and they are backed up by a lot of capital investment from other company. So we have done in the alliance facilities at $5 million to $10 million to some of the commercial real estate deals that are over $30 million. So the -- in terms of the range of the -- in terms of the stages as well as the type of the years, it's straight broad-based. So when -- I think couple of years ago and as far as initiated at other banks as well with more of a -- to the Tier-1 to 3 automobile companies, but now it's not only to those companies, but some of the manufacturers, as well as trade wholesalers and food business as well. So we are making our name out there and sometimes that -- we are attracting the deals. The deals are walking into our doors.

Gary Tenner -- DA Davidson & Co. -- Analyst

Thank you, Bonnie. And then just as a follow-up in terms of kind of the outlook for second quarter growth in terms of the pipeline. Are you seeing increasing demand on the C&I side at all or is the pipeline build and kind of at least near term growth projection more share-oriented and that's -- and I mean in general, not just specific to the Corporate Korea initiative.

Bonita I. Lee -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, I think just looking at that -- going into this, with looking at the second quarter pipeline, I think we have good CRE as well as C&I, as you can see C&I opportunities. So and as well as, the some of the SBA deals and also some of the leasing opportunities as well. So our pipeline going into the second quarter is much stronger than the first quarter.

Gary Tenner -- DA Davidson & Co. -- Analyst

Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Our next question is with David Chiaverini with Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question.

David Chiaverini -- Wedbush Securities -- Analyst

Hi, thanks. Couple of questions. I was curious about the pricing that you're getting on your new resi mortgage initiatives. Could you -- I think you spoke about $12 million or so on SFR and $27 million on mortgage warehouse. Can you talk about the pricing that you're getting on those?

Anthony Kim -- Chief Banking Officer

Yeah, because we are concentrating on these non-QM products, which is typically three quarters to and 1% higher than the conforming loans. So it's about 3.75% to 4.25%-ish.

David Chiaverini -- Wedbush Securities -- Analyst

Great. And the mortgage warehouse?

Anthony Kim -- Chief Banking Officer

Mortgage warehouse, we typically charge anywhere between 3.5% to 4%.

David Chiaverini -- Wedbush Securities -- Analyst

Great. And I...

Anthony Kim -- Chief Banking Officer

And we do...

David Chiaverini -- Wedbush Securities -- Analyst

Yep, go ahead.

Anthony Kim -- Chief Banking Officer

No, no, go ahead.

David Chiaverini -- Wedbush Securities -- Analyst

And I was also curious about on the SBA PPP loans for round 2. Can you talk about why you decided to sell the round 2 as opposed to retaining them like round one?

Bonita I. Lee -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, sure. We did return analysis obviously and and we still have over $250 million, the forgiveness from the first round. And I think it's taking much slower to going to the forgiveness process. And I think just evaluating the time and effort and the return analysis, we decided it's best to sell the loans as we produced for the second round.

David Chiaverini -- Wedbush Securities -- Analyst

Got it. Thanks very much.

Operator

We have no further questions in the queue at this time, please continue.

Lasse Glassen -- Managing Director

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. That does conclude our call today. You may disconnect the lines and thank you for your participation.

Duration: 41 minutes

Call participants:

Lasse Glassen -- Managing Director

Bonita I. Lee -- President and Chief Executive Officer

Anthony Kim -- Chief Banking Officer

Romolo C. Santarosa -- Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Matthew Clark -- Piper Sandler -- Analyst

Kelly Motta -- KBW -- Analyst

Timothy Coffey -- Janney Montgomery Scott -- Analyst

Jason Stewart -- JonesTrading Institutional Services, LLC -- Analyst

Gary Tenner -- DA Davidson & Co. -- Analyst

David Chiaverini -- Wedbush Securities -- Analyst

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