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DATE

  • Wednesday, July 23, 2025, at 5 p.m. EDT

CALL PARTICIPANTS

  • President and CEO — Dan Baker
  • Controller and Principal Financial Officer — Daniel Nelson

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TAKEAWAYS

  • Revenue: a 10% year-over-year decrease in the first quarter of fiscal 2026, primarily driven by an 11% decline in product sales offset by a 17% increase in contract R&D revenue.
  • Net Income: Net income of $3.58 million, down 13% year-over-year, equating to $0.74 per diluted share versus $0.85 per diluted share for Q1 FY2025 (GAAP).
  • Gross Margin: 81%, down from 86% in Q1 FY2025, attributed to a less profitable product mix and higher distribution channel contribution.
  • Total Expenses: Down 20% compared to Q1 FY2025, reflecting an 18% decrease in R&D expense compared to the first quarter of fiscal 2025 and a 23% decrease in SG&A compared to the first quarter of fiscal 2025, primarily due to the timing of sales and marketing activities and the reallocation of some general administrative resources to manufacturing.
  • Margins: Operating margin was 62%, Pretax margin was 70%, and net margin was 59%.
  • Dividend Actions: $1.00 per share dividend paid and a further dividend declared for August payout.
  • Operating Cash Flow: Operating cash flow of $5.19 million, exceeding the $4.84 million dividend outflow.
  • Capex: $1.06 million invested in fixed asset purchases, including expedited acquisition of a fabrication equipment cluster ahead of tariff deadlines.
  • Advanced Manufacturing Tax Credits: Expected benefit of $700,000–$800,000 in FY2026 from the recently extended 25% credit.
  • Outlook on Defense Sales: CEO Baker said, “We currently expect that [defense] business will grow quarter over quarter sequentially … and we expect to return to more historical levels in the next fiscal year.”
  • Distributor Sales: Rise noted as a sign of improving industry conditions.
  • Wafer Level Chip Scale Sensors: New launches highlighted, with samples and evaluation boards available, targeting medical and industrial markets.
  • Production Ramp: High-volume production systems for chip-scale sensors in development, with plans to build capacity through fiscal year.

SUMMARY

NVE Corp.(NVEC 0.31%) management acknowledged a drop in product and defense segment sales, partially balanced by 17% contract R&D growth and stabilization of non-defense orders. Wafer-level chip scale sensor development advanced with active customer sampling and positive initial feedback in both medical and industrial end-markets. Capital expenditure focused on manufacturing capacity expansion, anticipating leverage from new advanced fabrication equipment and tax efficiencies enabled by policy changes. The business maintained its fixed cost advantage relative to other semiconductor firms, with resource reallocation cited as limiting underutilization risk for new equipment. Customer interest in ferrite-magnet-based design is rising, attributed in part to rare earth supply chain disruptions, with NVE offering engineering support for such applications.

  • CEO Baker said, our business model would be to partner with large scale manufacturers where appropriate to monetize our intellectual property and to help advance the technology. regarding future spintronic MRAM opportunities.
  • Feedback from wafer-level sensor samples indicated suitability for miniaturized implantable medical devices, specifically navigation of catheters requiring precise position sensing.
  • Despite recent volatility, management projects military order revenue will increase sequentially in Q2 FY2026 and Q3 FY2026.
  • Non-defense distributor channels exhibited recovery, which management said bodes very well for the future.
  • NVE’s total shareholder return—39% over the past three fiscal years—comprised 22% from dividends and 17% from stock appreciation, as disclosed in the proxy statement.

INDUSTRY GLOSSARY

  • Spintronics: Technology utilizing electron spin along with its charge in digital devices for enhanced efficiency, data storage, and sensing.
  • MRAM: Magnetoresistive Random Access Memory; a nonvolatile memory using spintronics principles for persistent data storage.
  • Wafer Level Chip Scale Packaging: Process of packaging individual semiconductor dies at the wafer stage, minimizing device footprint and increasing spatial precision.
  • Physical Unclonable Function (PUF): A unique physical structure in hardware, often used for security in anti-tamper applications.
  • SG&A: Selling, General, and Administrative expenses representing non-production operating costs.
  • Section 179: A tax provision allowing U.S. businesses to deduct certain capital expenditures fully in the year placed into service.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Dan Baker: Good afternoon. Welcome to the NVE Corporation conference call for the quarter ended June 30, 2025. I'm Dan Baker, NVE's president and CEO. I'm joined as usual by controller and principal financial officer, Daniel Nelson. This call is being webcast live via YouTube and Amazon Chime and being recorded. A replay will be available through our website nve.com and our YouTube channel, youtube.com/nvecorporation. All participants are currently in listen-only mode. After our presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. After my opening comments, Daniel Nelson will present our financial results. I'll cover the business and then we'll open the call to questions.

We issued our press release with financial results and filed our quarterly report on Form 10-Q in the past hour following the close of market. Links to the press release and the 10-Q are available through our website, the SEC's website, and X, formerly known as Twitter. Please refer to the Safe Harbor statement on your screen.

Comments we may make that relate to future plans, events, financial results, or performance are forward-looking statements that are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, including among others, such factors as uncertainties related to the economic environments and the industries we serve, risks and uncertainties related to future sales and revenue, and risks and uncertainties related to tariffs, customs, duties, and other trade barriers. As well as the risk factors listed from time to time in our filings with the SEC, including our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended March 31, 2025. Actual results could differ materially from the information provided and we undertake no obligation to update forward-looking statements we may make.

We're pleased to report strong revenue and earnings for the quarter driven by an increase in distributor and non-defense sales, despite a decrease in defense sales. Daniel Nelson will cover details of the financials. Daniel?

Daniel Nelson: Thanks, Dan. The 10% year-over-year revenue decrease for the first quarter was due to an 11% decrease in product sales partially offset by a 17% increase in contract R&D revenue. The decrease in product sales was due to a decrease in defense industry sales, which can be highly variable because of procurement cycles. We were pleased to see non-defense sales stabilized with improving industry conditions in the quarter. We saw an increase in distributor sales, which were hit particularly hard by the recent industry downturn. Gross margin decreased to 81% from 86% due to a less profitable product mix and strengthening distributor sales, which tend to have lower margins than direct sales.

Total expenses decreased 20% for the first quarter of fiscal 2026, compared to the first quarter of fiscal 2025, due to an 18% decrease in R&D expense and a 23% decrease in SG&A. The decrease in R&D was due to completion of some of our wafer level chip scale packaging activities and reallocation of some R&D resources to manufacturing. The decrease in SG&A was primarily due to the timing of sales and marketing activities and reallocation of some general administrative resources to manufacturing. Net income for the first quarter of fiscal 2026 decreased 13% to $3.58 million, or 74 cents per diluted share, compared to $4.1 million or 85 cents per share for the prior year quarter.

The decrease in net income for the first quarter of fiscal 2026 compared to the prior year was primarily due to decreased revenue and lower margins partially offset by decreased expenses. Adding in approximately $75,000 unrealized gains on our marketable securities, comprehensive income was $3.65 million. Our profitability metrics remain strong. Operating margin was 62%. Pretax margin was 70%. And net margin was 59%. Fixed asset purchases were $1.06 million last quarter. Most of that was for a cluster of wave of fabrication equipment, which recently arrived. We were able to expedite the delivery to get the equipment before the US reciprocal tariff pause was scheduled to expire July 9.

We have a milestone payment of approximately $1 million due this quarter, which will substantially complete our two-year multimillion-dollar expansion. Dan Baker will provide more color on capital investments in a few minutes. The 25% advanced manufacturing investment tax credit was extended in the recent tax bill. Therefore, we currently expect to realize advanced manufacturing investment tax credits of between $700,000 and $800,000 if we deploy equipment as planned in fiscal 2026. Although it would not significantly affect our earnings, we will also realize significant cash flow savings this fiscal year due to changes in section 179 of the internal revenue code.

The recent legislation allows us to deduct on our tax returns previously unamortized R&D expenses rather than amortize them over five years. Turning to cash flow items. We paid our $1 per share quarterly dividend the past quarter and declared another dividend to be paid at the end of August. Operating cash flow was $5.19 million in the quarter, which more than covered our $4.84 million dividend. Accounts receivable decreased $1.34 million due to decreased revenue and the timing of customer payments. Accrued payroll and other liabilities increased $523,000, primarily due to the timing of estimated tax payments. Now I'll turn the call back over to Dan Baker to cover the business and preview our annual shareholders meeting.

Back to you, Dan.

Dan Baker: Thanks, Daniel. I'll cover capex marketing and our upcoming annual meeting. Starting with capex, we deployed one new machine in the past quarter. As Daniel Nelson mentioned, we also took possession of a several million dollar cluster in the past quarter. It's being installed in an expanded production area on the east end of our building, and we hope to deploy it later this fiscal year. Turning to product development. In the past quarter, we launched more wafer level chip scale sensors which are less than a thousandth of a square inch. There are demonstrations of new products on our website, and our YouTube channel.

We promoted new products, including wafer level chip scale sensors and advanced magnetic switch sensors launched earlier in the year at two major trade shows the past quarter. The Sensor Plus Test Show was in Nuremberg, Germany, and the Sensor's Converge Show was in Silicon Valley. SENSOR plus Test is billed as the leading international trade fair for SENSOR, measuring, and testing technology. And Sensors Converge is North America's largest electronics event. We've been following up on some good leads from the shows, and we believe the investments in these shows will pay off in future sales. We also promoted rare earth free ferrite magnets and sensors to detect them.

Most rare earth magnets and the materials to make them come from China, which has put the supplies at high risk. The primary ingredients of ferrite magnets, however, are iron and oxygen, the two most abundant elements in the Earth's crust. Our unique high sensitivity magnetic switch sensors and angle sensors are ideal for use with readily available ferrite magnets. Videos of some of our recent demos are on our website and YouTube channel. Our annual shareholders meeting will be August 7th here at NVE. Our proxy statement for the meeting is available via our website or the SEC's website. Our meetings have been in person except during the pandemic.

So shareholders can meet our managers and directors and see hands-on product demonstrations. If you can't make it in person, we plan to have a replay available. There are three agenda items for the annual meeting. The first agenda item is the election of directors. We're fortunate to have a strong independent board of directors all of whom have extensive experience as directors or executives of public company. The second agenda item is approval of our office compensation. Our compensation principles as detailed in our proxy include we don't overpay our officers, Our officers have the same fringe benefits as all employees. And there are no executive perks or golden parachutes.

The third agenda item is the ratification of our auditors for this fiscal year, the year ending March 31, 2026. Wule has been our auditor since 2019, and we recommend their approval for our next audit. We expect representatives from Bule to attend the annual meeting. The proxy reports total shareholder return for the past three fiscal years was 39% exceeding broad market returns. Our returns consisted of 17% stock appreciation and 22% from dividends. Now we'd like to open the call for questions. To ask a question from a phone, press star seven to unmute. Or from a browser with the Chime app, click the raise my hand icon under the meeting chat.

That's at the bottom of the left column. And unmute yourself to speak. Please state your name and affiliation before your question. And to prevent background noise, please mute your line after asking your question.

Jeffrey Bernstein: Hi, Dan. It's Jeff Bernstein from Silverberg Bernstein Capital. Hi, Jeff. Hey. How are you? So yeah. You touched on the weakness in the Puff business in the quarter, and it sounds like the distribution channel business is recovering. Can you give a little bit more color there? You know, what do you think happens with the PUS business in the next couple of quarters? Is there any kind of seasonality that

Dan Baker: There's not really seasonality to the Puff business, but there is a certain amount of lumpiness to that business because it's driven by procurement contracts for defense systems. So those can be those can be they're typically large contracts. But they we don't know the exact timing. I should say for background, are physical unclonable functions, which is a function that's embodied in a physical structure that's easy to evaluate but hard to predict. So they're an important component of Spintronic anti-tamper systems. And those systems are designed to protect sensitive data or electronics. So we sell those for military systems.

They're often deployed in systems that are sold to foreign militaries and so that is there are some commitments that the DOD has for those types of systems. It helps us in the long run, but in the short the short run, it can be unpredictable.

Jeffrey Bernstein: So that's so, Dan, it sounds like we should expect some growth with all the growth in the DOD budget and defense budgets around the world that on a multi-quarter kind of basis, we ought to continue to look at this as a growth business.

Dan Baker: Indeed. We currently expect that business will grow quarter over quarter sequentially. In the coming quarters, next quarter, and the following quarters. And we expect to return to more historical levels in the next fiscal year. To the second part of your question, though, on distributor sales, that's very encouraging because that's, related to the strength of the industry as a whole and we're seeing the industry recover. So to see those systems those sales increase, I think, bodes very well for the future.

Jeffrey Bernstein: Okay. And then you mentioned the this opportunity in replacing rare earth metals with ferrite magnets and your highly sensitive magnetic sensors. And I assume that is a hundred percent for positioning kinds of measurements. You know, the rare earth magnet business is a huge, huge business. The positioning part of that, I think, is a smaller piece, but still a very large business nonetheless. Think a lot of automotive, but some other things as well.

Can you just talk to us a little bit more about what you know and understand about that opportunity and you know, how quickly you think, you know, design wins can convert to business, you know, any kind of stumbling blocks there like availability of ferrite magnets, etcetera.

Dan Baker: Yeah. That's a that's a good question, Jeff. And as you know, virtually all rare earth magnets and materials such as neodymium and bosium are come from China. So that puts the supply chains at some risk. As far as the availability, as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, ferrite magnets are made from iron oxide, which is similar chemically similar to rust, and iron materials. Elements in the earth's crust. So it's it's materials that are widely available. We have so we're continuously working with customers to help them design in magnetic systems. As you pointed out, often the magnetic system is a magnet in combination with a sensor.

So you're detecting proximity such as whether a door is closed, a seat belt is latched, or something like that. Or whether a robot has reached its desired position, a robot end effector or actuator. And we provide models for the entire system for our customers. So we're working with customers continuously and our goal is to have near term design wins. We also have engineering models on our website. So customers can go there and model a ferrite magnet and one of our sensors and move the magnet around and to this to simulate the position of the magnet and the sensor and try different sensors and different magnets.

So we're working to get design wins in the near term. And we do have design wins that have been customers who come to us and said they need this magnet combination often a ferrite magnet, and we can provide them a solution. In some cases, we'll actually sell the magnet. We don't we don't make a lot of revenue on magnets, but we sell them as a courtesy to our customers or they can buy the magnet elsewhere, and particularly if it's ferrite magnet, they're widely available.

Jeffrey Bernstein: Gotcha. So it sounds like this is somewhat normal kind of design cycle in terms of there would need to be an a board spin to do this. But nothing more complicated than that.

Dan Baker: Right. And in some cases, our customers have constraints so they just need a magnet that drops in. So maybe they need a slightly bigger magnet if it's a ferrite magnet compared to a neodymium magnet for example. But we can provide them solutions like that. That allow a minimum of redesign. And we're getting more inquiries as you might expect about ferrite magnets and more sensitive sensors. Than we were before when engineers might specify in a rare earth magnet you and now they're starting to think about the supply chain risk of those magnets. And we offer sensors that can detect the lower fields that one gets from a ferrite magnet.

Jeffrey Bernstein: Gotcha. And then I wanted to ask about the investment in the wafer scale packaging and try trying to just understand how incremental revenue, you know, will correlate to that investment. So is this essentially giving you the opportunity to create much smaller parts because of the packaging and people get the sort of double whammy of knowing that the entire supply chain is now you know, US domestic, or is it really the US domestic supply chain that is the catalyst here? Just walk us through that.

And also you know, do you have to have all the machines in place and up and running to take advantage of this, or are there some increments and just how does that work?

Dan Baker: Yeah. So good questions. The short answer is it's both to make parts that are smaller. As I mentioned in the prepared remarks, some of these sensors are less than a thousandth of a square inch. So that means that they fit in tight spaces and it also means that they have more spatial specificity, meaning that you can detect a magnetic field more precisely as you can imagine because the sensing area is smaller. So those are the two main advantages. And we have the we have much of the key equipment already deployed for Wafer level chip scale parts. We've been rolling out a variety of different types of parts.

We promoted them at the two recent trade shows that I mentioned, Sensor Plus Test in Germany and Sensor converge in Silicon Valley. And we're already providing samples and evaluation boards. We are working on developing high volume production systems, and we'll be working on that in the next couple of quarters through this fiscal year. To make sure that we have the capacity as our customers design in these parts. But right now, we can provide samples and preproduction quantities now. And we're doing that.

Jeffrey Bernstein: Gotcha. Understand. And then last question, we, you know, we talked a little bit during the quarter about discussion that normal SRM is gas at, I guess, below two nanometer kinda line with. And people are talking about the potential for spin orbit torque RAM, SOTRAM is what they're calling it. You guys have some patents I think it's called in your patent Vortex Spin Momentum Transfer Magnetoresistance. Devices. And that's a patent issued back in 2011. But is that right? You know, at what point do you think this becomes something where there might be relevant IP that you guys have and how do you guys think about trying to capitalize on that?

Dan Baker: Our company was founded, and our original name was nonvolatile electronics, which refers to spintronic memory. And so it's important technology to us. We continue to develop the technology, and we make and sell magnetic MRAMs, Spintronics magnetic MRAM or MRAM parts. Mostly to in anti tamper applications to make crypto keys and similar security applications where the density is relatively low, there are the bit count. We don't plan to scale up for large scale memory. It just you know, it costs billions of dollars to make memory fab, so that's not part of our business plan, but we continue to develop our intellectual property. As you mentioned, we have intellectual property and patents on MRAM in general. As well as spin torque MRAM as you alluded to or spin momentum MRAM as it's sometimes called.

And our business model would be to partner with large scale manufacturers where appropriate to monetize our intellectual property and to help advance the technology. As you mentioned, SRAM and other types of memory run into scaling limitations that MRAM doesn't have. So we do see long term opportunities there. The other advantage of Spintronix memory or MRAM is that it has a combination of speed, nonvolatility, and density that combines the best attributes of SRAM DRAM, and flash or other non volatile memories. So it's sometimes been called the universe memory. And when the density approaches that of conventional memories, it'll open up some excellent opportunities and we're we're hoping to be able to provide intellectual property to help advance the technology.

Jeffrey Bernstein: Great. Thanks for the help today, Dylan.

Dan Baker: Thanks, Jeff. If there are other questions, star seven on the phone to unmute. Or raise my hand on a computer.

Christopher Petrovsky: Hello. This is Christopher Petrovsky calling with Investo. Can you hear me?

Dan Baker: Yes.

Christopher Petrovsky: Oh, wow. That's a surprise. Okay. So about the tip level packaging, can you talk a little bit about what end markets that going to into and whether it can track some in that already. Yeah.

Dan Baker: Yes. So for wafer level chip scale parts, the end markets is what you're asking about, and we've identified two end markets. One is medical devices, where the miniaturization is important, smaller medical devices, particularly implantable medical devices, results in smaller devices, less obtrusive smaller incisions, and all of those benefits. The other market is for industrial controls and robotics. To allow more precise position sensing. As I mentioned in the answer to a previous question, the parts are not only smaller but they have more spatial specificity for more precision. So those are the two markets that we've identified and we've sampled parts to customers in both markets.

We don't have volume production yet, but we have customers actively evaluating the parts and so far, the feedback has been has been quite positive. We're very optimistic about the prospects for these parts.

Christopher Petrovsky: But you're already selling devices into the implantable medical market. Would that be for next generation, or are you are you going into expanding into new implantable devices?

Dan Baker: We are looking at new implantable devices. So for example, navigation is an area. So what that means in a medical sense is knowing the position of a small device such as a catheter that would be snaked into the body, and it's important to know the exact position. So one needs a those these are very small catheters. They need a very small sensor that can detect a precise external magnetic field. The magnetic field helps navigate the catheter much as a magnetic compass helps us navigate on the earth. So that's one example of a potential market where our device is currently, as small as they are, are not small enough for that market.

And wafer level chip scale parts will be. We believe.

Christopher Petrovsky: Okay. That's good to hear. Do you know when you when you get those machines working, do you will you call will you consider production machines or NRE machines? And my question really is if it's not get enough sales in those in those packages. Are we is there a danger of kind of looking for looking at underutilization charges?

Dan Baker: Yeah. So we plan to use the new machinery for both R&D and production. And we despite the large investment compared to other semiconductor companies, we are relatively we have a relatively low fixed cost and a relatively low amount of equipment for the revenue that we generate. So we justified the equipment based on assumptions that we believe we can meet for increased and incremental sales, but also it's not the type of leverage that one might see in a commodity semiconductor market where if they don't keep the equipment busy, the fixed costs will damage their financials in many cases.

We have less risk than that because of the relative low amount of fixed assets that we have for the revenue that we generate. And that's a tribute to the to the efficiency of our employees and the value of our technology.

Christopher Petrovsky: That is correct. You have much lower fixed assets than any other semiconductor company I've researched. And, I guess, another question I had is that lately, just looking at your YouTube channel, you're showing a lot of sensors for of for it covers the state. For devices that use cylinders with the like, liquid force devices I'm sure I'm sorry. The word escaped me. I think you're referring to cylinders.

Dan Baker: Pneumatic cylinders. Yes. Yeah.

Christopher Petrovsky: Yeah. You described it very well.

Dan Baker: Right. So they're using a fluid to push to push a piston to move something, and that's what a lot of our customers do. So that's what we show on We do have a lot of those on YouTube.

Christopher Petrovsky: Is that a is that a new market? Because lately, I've just I mean, just lately, I've I've been seeing those.

Dan Baker: It's it's a legacy market for us, and we've had customers who make pneumatic cylinder positions or sensors for many years but we're always finding new and creative uses for those and our customers are as well. So the general category is linear actuators. And we are finding customers that want I think some of the newer videos relate to more precise control that we can do with our newer types of sensors. So we have a new YouTube video for example that highlights one of our advanced magnetic switches that I mentioned in the prepared remarks that we introduced at the recent trade shows.

And so that allows us to have more precise control of a pneumatic cylinder where we can slow it down at one threshold and then stop it at another. So just like you know, just like if you're slowing down and stopping a car, you can stop at more precisely like that. And so that's an example of the type of demonstration that we have. We've had customers who've been using the madic cylinders for many years, but this opens up a new way of controlling them more precisely. We also have done some recent videos and demonstrations where our some of our folks are very creative in coming up with ways of controlling linear position and familiar devices.

We had a device that's playing up a piano, moving an actuator around to a precise position. And then hitting the key. So there are some of those that we demonstrate as well to demonstrate the precision of our sensors and, in that case, the combination the precision and the speed.

Daniel Nelson: Okay. That's good to hear that this market is expanding. And finally, I wanted to ask you, you know, for several quarters, we've seen that the type of military orders being very volatile. Have you considered reporting revenue x military orders? For example, for this quarter, it was very useful to tell my that you have, that ex military orders you have in your actual grill, which I think it did.

Dan Baker: That's true. It did. And we will look at we look at that kind of continuously. Do we want to report a segment? The challenge with that is that to report it consistently we need to have it audited and we need to break out not just the revenue but the components of or the expenses and costs related to the revenue. So there's a fair amount of infrastructure that we need to do that, but we will look at that and we look at whether we should report certain segments continuously. We're always looking at that. So we'll we'll be looking also at defense spending.

In the meantime, what we try to do is provide information to our investors as we did on this call that to help understand what is behind our top and bottom line.

Daniel Nelson: Okay. That's good to hear. And the information you're providing is that military orders will actually sequentially increase this quarter and the next. Is that correct?

Dan Baker: That's that's what we're that's what we're expecting now. That's our current expectation. Yes.

Daniel Nelson: Okay. This is it for me. Good luck.

Jeffrey Bernstein: Thank you.

Dan Baker: Are there any other questions? Star seven to unmute, raise your hand on a computer. Well, if there are no other questions, we were pleased to report strong revenue and earnings. We continue to deploy new equipment and received a new equipment cluster. We look forward to speaking with you in October for our next quarterly call. And we look forward to seeing some of you August 7th at our annual meeting. A replay of this call would be available in the investor events page of our website. That's nve.com. And our YouTube channel, that's youtube.com/nvecorporation. Thank you for participating in this call.