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Date

Thursday, January 22, 2026 at 9:00 a.m. ET

Call participants

  • Chairman & Chief Executive Officer — Robert Ford
  • Executive Vice President, Finance & Chief Financial Officer — Philip Boudreau
  • Vice President, Investor Relations — Mike Comilla

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Risks

  • Robert Ford directly identified the nutrition business as facing a broader challenge: "the need to reignite volume growth, a challenge many consumer goods businesses face today. Higher prices have resulted now in what I see as kind of suppressing demand and lowering the volume growth."
  • Management forecasted that performance in nutrition will remain challenged in the first half of the year, with a return to growth in the second half.
  • China diagnostic sales were referenced as having faced significant VBP (volume-based procurement) headwinds, with Ford remarking, "I'm not expecting big growth out of it. All I need for it is to be pretty stable."

Takeaways

  • Organic sales growth guidance -- Management guided to a 6.5%-7.5% organic sales growth range for 2026, with a midpoint of 7%.
  • Adjusted earnings per share guidance -- The company forecasted 2026 adjusted EPS of $5.55-$5.80, representing 10% growth at the midpoint.
  • Fourth quarter sales -- Excluding COVID testing sales, revenue increased 3.8% organically in the fourth quarter.
  • Adjusted earnings per share Q4 -- Adjusted EPS was $1.50, reflecting 12% year-over-year growth.
  • Foreign exchange impact -- Foreign exchange positively impacted fourth quarter sales by 1.4%.
  • Adjusted gross margin -- Gross margin reached 57.1% of sales, up 20 basis points from the prior year, despite tariffs.
  • Adjusted operating margin -- Operating margin was 25.8% of sales, a 150-basis-point improvement year over year.
  • Nutrition segment -- U.S. pediatric sales declined, attributed to market share loss and the need to reignite volume growth.
  • Core lab diagnostics -- Core Lab grew 3.5% for the quarter; full-year growth excluding China was 7%.
  • Point-of-care diagnostics -- Segment sales increased 7% in the quarter, driven by high-sensitivity troponin adoption.
  • Established pharmaceuticals division (EPD) -- Sales increased 7% with double-digit growth in India, Latin America, and The Middle East.
  • Medical devices -- Segment sales rose 10.5% for the quarter.
  • Diabetes care -- Continuous glucose monitor (CGM) revenue grew 12% in Q4 and 17% for the year, surpassing $7.5 billion for 2025.
  • Electrophysiology (EP) -- Double-digit sales growth reported in both U.S. and international markets; new FDA and CE Mark product approvals cited.
  • Structural heart -- Segment achieved double-digit growth in Navitor, Triclip, and MitraClip products, supported by multiple new product launches and indications.
  • Heart failure portfolio -- Category delivered 12% growth, led by ventricular assist devices and CardioMEMS.
  • Rhythm management -- Sales increased 12% in Q4 and 10% for the full year; Aveir leadless pacemaker noted as a growth driver.
  • Vascular segment -- Growth of 6.5% attributed to double-digit gains in vessel closure and ESPRIT stent products.
  • Neuromodulation -- Category grew 5.5%, driven by international performance and the launch of a rechargeable spinal cord stimulation device.
  • 2025 product and pipeline milestones -- Management highlighted regulatory approvals, a major acquisition (Exact Sciences (NASDAQ:EXAS)), and expanded clinical trials across several device franchises.

Summary

In the earnings call, Abbott Laboratories (ABT 9.69%) issued 2026 organic sales growth guidance of 6.5%-7.5% and projected a 10% rise in adjusted EPS, while also confirming a persistent near-term headwind in its nutrition business. Management outlined that new FDA and CE Mark product launches across electrophysiology, structural heart, and diabetes care drove strong medical device segment results, offsetting softness in nutrition. Executives detailed a disciplined margin expansion strategy, noting adjusted operating margin reached 25.8% in the quarter—a 150-basis-point improvement over the prior year. Additionally, the announced acquisition of Exact Sciences (NASDAQ:EXAS) added a new high-growth vertical to the company’s portfolio, expanding reach into cancer diagnostics.

  • Price and promotion initiatives were implemented to help start the process of reigniting volume growth in nutrition, but performance is expected to recover only in the latter half of the year.
  • Sales in diabetes care, specifically for CGM, increased by over $1 billion for a third consecutive year, with 2025 revenue exceeding $7.5 billion.
  • Ford stated integration of Exact Sciences remains on track, with leverage expectations of 2.7x gross debt to EBITDA post-transaction and no change to the estimated $0.20 EPS dilution.
  • The portfolio in electrophysiology has been bolstered by recent approvals of both PFA (pulsed field ablation) and RF (radiofrequency) products, with Ford asserting, "I don't think that there is a company right now that's better positioned in terms of completeness of the portfolio than what we have."
  • Reimbursement expansion for CGM in the U.S. non-insulin market is anticipated, although timing remains uncertain.
  • EPD delivered a fifth straight year of over 7% growth, with emphasis on portfolio differentiation and biosimilars supporting results in emerging markets.

Industry glossary

  • PFA (Pulsed Field Ablation): A cardiac ablation technology using pulsed electrical fields to selectively ablate cardiac tissue, offering an alternative to radiofrequency ablation in electrophysiology.
  • CGM (Continuous Glucose Monitor): A wearable device that provides continuous tracking of blood glucose levels, predominantly serving patients with diabetes.
  • VBP (Volume-Based Procurement): A China-specific governmental policy to reduce medical product prices and concentrate procurement volumes, significantly impacting diagnostic and device industry margins and share.
  • LAA (Left Atrial Appendage) device: An implantable device designed to close the left atrial appendage to prevent stroke in patients with atrial fibrillation.
  • TAVR (Transcatheter Aortic Valve Replacement): A minimally invasive procedure to replace the aortic valve in patients with severe aortic stenosis.
  • ESPRIT: Abbott’s branded below-the-knee resorbable stent, highlighted as a growth driver in the vascular product segment.
  • Aveir: Abbott’s leadless pacemaker system, cited as a significant driver of rhythm management sales growth.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Mike Comilla: With me today are Robert Ford, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Philip Boudreau, Executive Vice President, Finance and Chief Financial Officer. Robert and Philip will provide opening remarks. Following their comments, we will take your questions. Before we get started, some statements made today may be forward-looking for purposes of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including the expected results for 2026. Abbott Laboratories cautions that these forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated in the forward-looking statements.

Economic, competitive, governmental, technological, and other factors that may affect Abbott Laboratories' operations are discussed in item one a Risk Factors, to our annual report on Form 10-Ks for the year ended 12/31/2024. Abbott Laboratories undertakes no obligation to release publicly any revisions to forward-looking statements as a result of subsequent events or developments except as required by law. On today's conference call, as in the past, non-GAAP financial measures will be used to help investors understand Abbott Laboratories' ongoing business performance. These non-GAAP financial measures are reconciled with the comparable GAAP financial measures in our earnings news release and regulatory filings from today, which are available on our website at abbott.com.

Note that Abbott Laboratories has not provided the related GAAP financial measures on a forward-looking basis for the non-GAAP financial measures for which it is providing guidance because the company is unable to predict with reasonable certainty and without unreasonable effort the timing and impact of certain items, which could significantly impact Abbott Laboratories' results in accordance with GAAP. Unless otherwise noted, our commentary on sales growth refers to organic sales growth, which is defined in the press release issued earlier today. With that, I will now turn the call over to Robert.

Robert Ford: Thanks, Mike. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Before discussing our fourth quarter results, I want to take a moment to reflect on 2025, a year that demonstrated Abbott Laboratories' leadership and innovation, disciplined execution, and strategic actions taken to position the company for sustainable long-term growth. Innovation continues to be the foundation of our success.

In 2025, we achieved several important milestones that strengthen our position for the future, including regulatory approvals for our Volt and Tactiflex Duo PFA products, a new indication for Navitor TAVR valve, CMS national coverage for Triclip and CardioMEMS, completing enrollment in our pivotal trial to bring a new LAA device to market, filing for FDA approval for our dual glucose ketone sensor, initiating the pivotal trial of our coronary IVL device, starting the launch sequence in EPD to bring biosimilars to emerging markets, and recently starting the launch sequence in nutrition to bring new products to market that meet evolving consumer preferences. 2025 was also a year of disciplined execution.

We delivered top-tier margin expansion and achieved our original target of double-digit earnings growth in earnings per share despite the implementation of new tariffs and heightened market challenges in China. Finally, in 2025, we made important strategic moves to shape Abbott Laboratories' future. Our announced acquisition of Exact Sciences will allow Abbott Laboratories to enter and lead in the fast-growing cancer diagnostics market and add a new high-growth business with an attractive pipeline to the Abbott Laboratories portfolio. We expect 2026 to be another year powered by innovation, operational excellence, and strategic execution.

As we announced this morning, we forecast the midpoint of our 2026 organic sales growth range to be 7% and the midpoint of our adjusted earnings per share range to reflect 10% growth. I'll now summarize the fourth quarter results in more detail. I'll start with nutrition, where sales declined in the quarter. Abbott Laboratories has been in the nutrition business for more than sixty years. With that history comes experience, not just in times of growth, but in times that require navigating challenges. As I mentioned last quarter, the US pediatric business is seeing an impact from market share loss partly due to the loss of a large WIC contract last year.

But our results this quarter underscore a broader challenge, which is the need to reignite volume growth, a challenge many consumer goods businesses face today. Over the last several years, we've seen manufacturing costs in nutrition rise, in part due to a post-pandemic driven surge in commodity costs that remains in our cost base today. We've increased prices to help mitigate the impact of higher manufacturing costs, but those price increases in the current economic environment have become a factor in constraining volume growth. Many consumer goods businesses are facing this dynamic. Higher manufacturing costs led to higher prices, which in turn are suppressing demand as consumers become increasingly more price-sensitive.

This path is not sustainable long-term, so we began to make changes in the fourth quarter. Our goal is to transition our business back to one with a more balanced growth profile, with volume growth playing a greater role going forward. In the fourth quarter, we began implementing price and promotion initiatives to help start the process of reigniting volume growth. To further drive volume growth, we are increasing our focus on innovation, which is an area that was deprioritized the last few years given the necessary heavy focus on production and supply chain management in this business.

Following the launch of two new versions of Ensure late last year, we expect to launch at least eight new products over the course of the next twelve months. We expect performance in nutrition to remain challenged in the first half of the year with a return to growth in the second half. While this transition back to a more sustainable volume-driven business has consequences on our near-term results, these are the right steps to take to better position the business for longer-term success. Moving to diagnostics, sales increased 3.5% due to the anticipated year-over-year decline in COVID testing sales.

Core Lab Diagnostics grew 3.5%, achieving a third consecutive quarter of accelerating growth and building steady momentum as we enter 2026. For the full year, excluding China, growth in Core Lab Diagnostics was 7%, reflecting durable demand in markets around the world. In point-of-care diagnostics, sales grew 7% in the quarter driven by adoption of our high-sensitivity troponin test, which allows for earlier and more accurate detection of heart attacks. Turning to EPD, where sales increased 7% in the quarter. Growth was well-balanced across the markets and therapeutic areas that we participate in, including double-digit growth in India and several countries across Latin America and The Middle East.

By focusing on high-demand therapies and faster-growing markets, EPD delivered its fifth consecutive year of sales growth exceeding 7%. And I'll wrap up with medical devices. Sales grew 10.5%.

Philip Boudreau: In diabetes care, sales of continuous glucose monitors grew 12% in the fourth quarter and 17% for the year. With sales in 2025 exceeding $7.5 billion, this marks the third consecutive year that our CGM sales have grown by more than a billion dollars. Our success in CGM continues to be driven by strong underlying market fundamentals, a leading position in cost and scale, and an unwavering commitment to market-leading innovation. These factors have led to a continued increase in adoption across all of the various use groups.

Robert Ford: In electrophysiology, sales grew double digits in The US and internationally. In December, we announced FDA approval of our BOLT PFA catheter, which represents our first PFA product offering in The United States. And earlier this week, we announced that we obtained CE Mark for our new Tactiflex Duo ablation catheter, which offers both RF and PFA energy to treat patients battling AFib. In structural heart, growth was driven by double-digit growth in Navitor, double-digit growth in Triclip, and double-digit growth in MitraClip. In the coming weeks, we'll achieve an important milestone completing enrollment in our CATALYST trial. This trial is evaluating the performance of the amulet left atrial appendage device compared to oral anticoagulants in patients with AFib.

This trial is designed to generate the evidence to demonstrate the clinical benefits of the amulet, which could lead to broader adoption and expansion of the addressable market. In heart failure, growth of 12% was driven by growth across our market-leading portfolio of ventricular assist devices, which offer treatment for chronic and temporary conditions, and growth in CardioMEMS, our implantable sensor used for the early detection of heart failure. Our investment strategy in medical devices is based upon a true two-pronged approach. Invest to sustain strong performance in high-growth segments like diabetes, structural heart, electrophysiology, and heart failure. And we invest to increase the growth outlook in more foundational segments like rhythm management and vascular.

While the investments in traditionally high-growth segments tend to get more attention, the investments we've made in our foundational businesses are generating very impressive returns. In Rhythm Management, growth of 12% was led by continued strong uptake of our leadless pacemaker, Aveir. For the full year, growth of 10% in Rhythm Management represents the third consecutive year of significantly outperforming the market. With Aveir and the investments we're making in conduction system pacing and other novel technologies, we see the $10 billion rhythm management market as a great opportunity to capture market share and drive sustainable growth for years to come.

In vascular, growth of 6.5% was led by double-digit growth in vessel closure products and growth from ESPRIT, our below-the-knee resorbable stent. For the full year, vascular sales grew 5%, making this the second consecutive year vascular has delivered mid-single-digit growth. With the expected approval of our coronary IVL device next year, we expect growth in vascular to follow a similar pattern of acceleration that we've seen in rhythm management. And lastly, in neuromodulation, growth of 5.5% was led by strong international growth. We turned our rechargeable spinal cord stimulation device. So in summary, despite facing some challenges in '25, we achieved our original target of double-digit earnings per share growth. Our new product pipeline continues to be highly productive.

And combined with the strategic steps we took to shape the company for the future, we're well-positioned for accelerating growth in 2026. I'll turn over the call to Philip. Thanks, Robert.

Philip Boudreau: As Mike mentioned earlier, please note that all references to sales growth rates, unless otherwise noted, are on an organic basis. Turning to our fourth quarter results, sales increased 3.8% when excluding COVID testing sales. Adjusted earnings per share of $1.50 reflects growth of 12% compared to the prior year. Foreign exchange had a favorable year-over-year impact of 1.4% on fourth quarter sales, which was in line with our expectations at the time of our earnings call in October. Regarding other aspects of the P&L, the adjusted gross margin profile was 57.1% of sales, which despite the impact of tariffs, increased 20 basis points compared to the prior year.

Adjusted R&D was 6.2% of sales and adjusted SG&A was 25.1% of sales. Adjusted operating margin was 25.8% of sales, which reflects an increase of 150 basis points compared to the prior year. Turning to our outlook for 2026, today, we issued guidance for full-year adjusted earnings per share of $5.55 to $5.80. This reflects 10% growth at the midpoint of the range and contemplates an adjusted earnings per share forecast of $1.12 to $1.18 for the first quarter. For the year, we forecast organic sales growth to be in the range of 6.5% to 7.5%.

Based on current rates, we expect exchange to have a favorable impact of around 1% on full-year reported sales, which includes an expected favorable impact of around 3% on first-quarter reported sales. And we forecast our adjusted tax rate to be in the range of 15 to 16%. With that, we'll now open the call for questions.

Operator: Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated advising you that your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press 11 again. For optimal sound quality, we kindly ask that you please use your handset instead of your speakerphone when asking your question. Our first question will come from Larry Biegelsen from Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Larry Biegelsen: Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. So, Robert, on the last call, you seemed comfortable with consensus revenue growth, but you're guiding a little bit lower today. I assume that's related to nutrition. Can you talk about what's changed since the last call? And how you're thinking about the year playing out from a cadence standpoint? I assume, you know, you would expect growth to accelerate through the year given your comments on nutrition and some of the launches. I'll leave it at that. Thanks for taking the question.

Robert Ford: Thanks, Larry. I think if I remember, you're the one who asked that question back in October. And you know, when I answered that question, I think consensus was 7.5% top line. EPS was 10%. So today, we guided the midpoint at 7% on the top line, 10% on the bottom. So the midpoint here is half a percent lower than what was consensus. But other than that, nothing's really changed. The EPS is in line with consensus, expecting healthy margin expansions. I'm sure we're going to talk a lot about the pipeline, which is either on target or ahead of schedule in certain products. The balance sheet's in great shape. I feel good about us closing Exact Sciences.

So the half-point change on the top line is, as you pointed out, really the change in the near-term outlook, I'd say, of our nutrition business. You saw in our quarter, in our Q4, we had a negative quarter. And as I said in my comments, you know, there's a component of this business. It's a healthcare-driven product portfolio, but there's a component of it, a dynamic of it that is very much aligned with consumer packaged goods. And I'd say the challenges that CPG businesses have been facing are pretty well known following the pandemic. Pretty significant surge in costs between 2022 and '24 to offset that.

I think we all went ahead and tried to mitigate it with price increases that obviously drove the top line, but more importantly, I would say, improved or didn't allow the economics and the profitability of the businesses to deteriorate. If you look at our profitability in that business, 2024, 2025, where it was back in 2022, it had that impact. But the higher prices have resulted now in what I see as kind of suppressing demand and lowering the volume growth. And the pressure in the volume growth accelerated, I'd say, as we moved throughout Q4 and consumers became increasingly more price-sensitive. So as I said in my comment, it's not a sustainable path.

You'll get down into the spiral if you keep increasing prices. You'll keep on driving volume down. So you know, we could have gone a couple more quarters, maybe nine more months doing this, but it would not be sustainable. And at some point, something fundamentally has to change here. And I just felt that the longer we took to make this change, the more painful it would be. If I look at the strength of the portfolio right now and the growth, all the growth prospects we have, the ability to add a whole new growth vertical, I just thought that the timing was right to do this and do this as quickly as possible to get through it.

So we began implementing price promotion initiatives that are going to help invigorate growth. I think early signs right now, Larry, are encouraging. Obviously, we're going to have to keep monitoring that. And then we're also launching a lot of new products to be able to kind of support that volume growth. We haven't had to reallocate R&D resources to be able to do that. You know, this is a business that operates around 2, 2.2% of R&D, so we just reallocated within that budget to focus on new product development. So we'll have a couple of quarters here where growth in nutrition is going to be challenged. And then in the second half, we'll return to positive growth.

And I got confidence in the team that's in place today that we can transition back to more of a volume-driven growth business. If you look at what we did back in 2022 when we had supply disruption, it took us about nine to twelve months to get our share back. I don't think it's going to take that long, so I think it's about a six-month process here of reshifting that. And that's really what's creating, I would say, or part of it, what's creating a little bit of this first half, second half dynamic in our growth forecast. But outside of that, Larry, where we were in October, nothing has really changed.

In fact, I'd say a significant majority of the company here is either maintaining high single-digit top-line growth or low teens growth or they're accelerating their growth versus 2025, whether it's our cardiovascular franchise or diabetes products, EPD, our pharma business, we're going to be lapping the core diagnostic headwinds that we faced last year. If you remember, we had about a billion dollars of headwind that we faced last year in our diagnostic business, whether it was COVID and the China challenges. That's mostly going to be behind us. We're going to be adding another high-growth vertical with Exact Sciences. So I think there's a lot to like here. I think there's a lot of growth here.

And while we know we've got some work to do in nutrition, I can guarantee you that we're not distracted by that from all the great opportunities that we have here. So like I said, I think we've got a good setup for 2026. A lot of accelerating growth as we progress through the year.

Larry Biegelsen: Alright. Thank you very much.

Robert Ford: Thank you.

Operator: Our next question will come from David Roman from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

David Roman: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I did want to start, Robert, on the pipeline and then maybe just ask a follow-up question, if we have time, on the guidance and the outlook. You did talk about some of the approvals in the EP business. And most specifically, can you help us sort of frame the Abbott Laboratories portfolio in EP maybe looking back six months, where we are today, where you are then six to twelve months from now, and contextualize kind of the portfolio relative to competition and where you see the biggest opportunities to accelerate growth there with Volt, Tactiflex Duo, Tactiflex VT, I think even NextGen Agilis, InsightX, etcetera.

Robert Ford: Sure. I mean, I think that I do have to put that into context. I mean, if you go back three years, David, there was a lot of concern about our franchise, you know, that was growing double digits that was going to, you know, be flat or even negative because we didn't have a PFA catheter. You know, we developed a strategy. The team put together a strategy. We presented it to our board three years ago in terms of what we were going to do. And over the last couple of years, even without PFA products, we've been able to actually sustain our double-digit growth rates, you know, twenty-four and twenty-twenty-five without a PFA catheter.

So, the strategy that you're now referencing about our PFA products, that's just part of our strategy that we presented, you know, three years ago. And laid out here. So we began launching the PFA product line in a much larger installed base of capital and mapping systems. The launch of Volt in Europe has gone very well. I'd say when we talked about developing Volt, we said let's look at where the shortcomings of our first-generation products are and can we build those into Volt.

And, you know, the feedback that I can see from the European market and, quite frankly, through the last couple of weeks as we've begun our limited market release here in The US is two things keep jumping out pretty continuously. One, the elegance, the ease, and the smoothness and the predictability of the mapping integrated with the catheter, the visualization, all of that we spent a lot of time putting together, I continue to hear very positive feedback on that. And then, you know, the ability to potentially do these procedures with sedation versus general anesthesia, that is a recurring theme that I keep on hearing here.

So, I'd say the Volt launch has gone very much aligned to what we expected as we were putting the program together. This year, we'll have the launch of Volt here in The US and Tactiflex Duo internationally. I think it comes down to we always wanted to make sure that we had a toolbox approach here for the physicians so they can have choice and they can have greater flexibility about how they use these products.

I'm sure that there'll be cases and types of patients and patient profiles that will lend itself more to a balloon and bask type design, and there are going to be types of patients in situations where Tactiflex Duo with its dual energy source will be preferred. And, ultimately, it's going to be up to the physician to make those decisions. But I like the fact that, you know, the team, as they put the strategy together, that we would have both these products. I think you raised this point very well, which is I don't think that there is a company right now that's better positioned in terms of completeness of the portfolio than what we have.

You know, whether it's technology or the scale and the infrastructure, starting with, you know, the capital placements that we've got. The incredibly competent clinical specialists that we have out in the field that have shown their value to our customers right now. We've got both RF and PFA products. We've got all the elements, whether it's catheters, patches, etcetera. Introducer sheets, all of that you reference. And on top of that, we've got an LAA device, which is I would say is becoming pretty clear that if you want to be a leader in this space, you can't just look at having a PFA catheter. You've got to have the full portfolio including this device.

Right now, it seems like 25% of LAA procedures are done concomitantly. So I think if you put all of that together, the portfolio that we've assembled combined with the resilience of what this team has done and how they've executed, I've got high expectations for this business this year. The team knows that. I expect that we should grow at least in line with the market, David, which I expect I think it seems like the forecast here is mid to high teens. So I think we're in a really good position and I'm excited to see the second part of the strategy that we put together three years ago.

And we're really excited to kind of, you know, put that second part of that phase into action now.

David Roman: Very helpful. Maybe just a follow-up on the guidance. I think we all know that you don't solve your guidance to meet short-term consensus. And you are committed to achieving your commitments. But as you've thought about putting together the outlook for 2026, considering some of the different variables that you faced over the past couple of quarters, like how did you think about risk adjusting the outlook? And maybe just help us think about the considerations in the guidance and maybe just your philosophy as you kind of put the outlook together here.

Robert Ford: Well, I mean, listen. I think if you look at our growth for 2026, I mean, we've always targeted high single digits and double-digit, high single-digit top line, double-digit bottom line. That's our investment identity, and we've kind of followed through with that. If you look at our 2026, I think the way you need to kind of look at it is you've got a very big portion of the company that is going to, you know, that we're sustaining that growth. In some cases, it'll be accelerating, but you know, a large portion of the company sustaining the high single-digit growth, whether it's in cardiovascular, whether in diabetes.

We've got a bunch of new products launching to be able to support, you know, those kind of growth profiles in the business. EPD, supporting, you know, with the biosimilar launch, you know, that high single-digit kind of growth rate. So you've got a lot of large portions and even some geographies that, you know, we can sustain that growth and we feel that we're supporting it with product launches and investment to sustain what I consider a pretty differentiated growth rate. Then you've got the second bucket, which is, I'd say, an acceleration in our diagnostics. And all that really is we've been doing very well taking share in our Core Lab business across the world.

And what we had a challenge with last year is with, you know, COVID coming down, 2024, I think it was, like, $750 million coming down to $250 million. So you had half a billion dollars headwind there, and then you had another, you know, $400 million, $500 million headwind in China VBP. Right? Our forecast for COVID is, you know, around that same number, around $200 million. So I'm not expecting, you know, any significant growth or decline. And, you know, a lot of the VBP, you know, they come in waves. The vast majority of our sales in China have gone through the VBP in 2025. So we really felt that impact in 2025.

There's going to be more VBPs in China, but the shares that we have in those waves are very, very small compared to what we have. So you've got this whole lapping of our diagnostic business. And as long as we keep on doing what we're doing in the United States, Europe, in Latin America, and other parts in Asia, which we have been doing, you're going to see a nice acceleration in our diagnostic business. And you started to see that throughout the year as the VBP impact started to dissipate a little bit as the year progressed.

You've got then, obviously, you know, as I spoke quite at length here about, you know, this transition with nutrition, you've got, you know, probably one or two quarters here where growth is going to be challenged. But I am confident that what we're going to be able to do here is reignite volume growth, and you'll see that business get back to growth. So those elements there, Dave, really look at it and say, okay, you've got continued momentum in a large portion of the business. You've got some lapping that's going to be happening.

And then we've got this transition, which I consider to be pretty short-term here, but a couple of quarters, to be able to get to this guide on the nutrition side. And then I'm sure we'll talk about Exact Sciences, but that's another factor here to be able to add on, you know, $3 billion plus business growing 15% a lot of growth opportunities for us. So that's kind of how we looked at it, at least from a top line. And then having that flow through down to the bottom line, making investments in the areas that we need to, and nice gross margin and op margin profile expansion too.

David Roman: Great. Thanks so much. Appreciate all the perspective.

Robert Ford: Thank you.

Operator: Our next question will come from Robbie Marcus from JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Robbie Marcus: Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Two for me. Robert, last week, when we were talking, you said you expect CGM to continue to track higher at about $1 billion a year. That would put 2026 somewhere in the low to mid-teens. Is that the right way to think about CGM growth next year? And maybe if you just want to give your updated thoughts on market growth and Abbott Laboratories' position there. Then I have a follow-up. Thanks a lot.

Robert Ford: Sure. But you said next year, you mean 2026. Right?

Robbie Marcus: Yes. Thank you.

Robert Ford: Got it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think yeah. There's all this debate that I read about that the market's slowing, and I get if you're just looking at percentages and that's how you base yourself off it, then I guess if it's that myopic, then I think okay. I understand the conclusion. But I don't consider growing a billion dollars every single year and doing it four years in a row to be slowing down here, Robbie. I think the math will work out to what you just kind of highlighted there. In the kind of low teens.

But I think there's still a lot of opportunity for penetration in this both from a market perspective, but then also from our opportunity, you know, our ability to drive market share in and market expansion. I think that if you look at across all three, all three patient groups, whether it's the intensive insulin user, you know, the basal insulin user, and the non-insulin user, all of those areas still there's so much penetration to be able to have here.

And you can see across the world, not just in The United States but across the world, you know, a lot of movement whether it's patient groups, healthcare systems that are, you know, looking to expand the use and the adoption of the technology into all these patient segments. You know, The US gets a lot of attention and it's an important market and, you know, there's a lot of great opportunities for us there in terms of the non-insulin user reimbursement opportunity. I continue to see nice progress in this process. Seems to be a lot of support to do this.

And the data that we've shown, like we've published three studies already that show that this patient segment also benefits with lower A1c, greater time and range, all the things that have driven kind of reimbursement in the other segments. I think that this is a very strong opportunity for us here in The US. And we'll see how it plays out. I think we'll see some language in the first half and then how it all plays out with comment periods. You know this Robbie, comment periods. There's all of this. So I'm not baking that into my guidance.

But, you know, I can tell you we will be 150% ready to execute whether it's having manufacturing capacity and having scale and the position in the primary care side, which is where that'll probably play out more. We'll be ready. So that provides an opportunity to, you know, to outperform, you know, that consensus forecast. I think on the intensive insulin user side, still think there's penetration to be had and adoption to be had, especially in international markets. I think it's only about 50% penetrated. So I think there's still a lot of opportunity to do the work that we're doing there.

Obviously, scale and cost matter in the international markets, and I think we've got that position set. And then, you know, as you look at what I think is more specific to us, the opportunity to bring in a very product to look at market share, shift in a segment that I'd say we're probably a little bit underrepresented from a market share perspective, which is on the pumper side with the launch of our GKS sensor. I think that's going to provide us a great opportunity. I'm not going to try and pinpoint the exact quarter here, Robbie. When we get approval, we'll issue the press release, and we'll be out.

But we've been working hard already concomitantly with the regulatory process, you know, with KOLs, with, you know, with physician groups, with payers, and I think there was an article that came out in The Lancet in January talking about the beginning of this year talking about, you know, the importance of measuring continuously ketones as DKA is still a major care gap here for people with diabetes. I think you've got a big opportunity here with this product for market share conversion. I think one of the surprising things for me in this as we started to really double click on these patient segments is, you know, we talked about the SGLT2 population.

We did some analysis in The US. You got about 6 million SGLT2 users in The US. And if you cross-reference their usage of CGM through, you know, through all the databases, only about a million of those six are on CGMs. So I think there's going to be an opportunity here also to kind of create market expansion with this product. So not just share capture, but also market expansion. So this market is still very robust.

It's becoming larger, so I get the large law of big numbers kind of lowers those percentages, but you just look at it from a penetration perspective, Robbie, there's still so much to do in all these segments and different geographies that, you know, we're still very excited and making big investments whether it's in sales and marketing, clinical, R&D, and manufacturing, because we still think that we're this is still I'm not going to say it's the first or second inning, but we're far away from being from the seventh inning on this one. So I think there's still a lot of opportunity here. We're in a good position.

Robbie Marcus: Great. Maybe just a quick follow-up. It's great to see you're still able to do double-digit EPS growth in 2026. I would imagine that's coming through the top line and margin expansion. Should we think about the magnitude of margin expansion and the drivers of it?

Philip Boudreau: Thank you. Yes. I'll let Bill take that.

Philip Boudreau: Yeah. Thanks, Robbie. You know, I couldn't be more proud of what the team accomplished in 2025 as Robert outlined. You know, overcoming uncertainties, volatilities, and whatnot still drive margin expansion. And that commitment to the execution and excellence there maintains in 2026. Expect to do more of the same, focus on the things that are strategically aligned and adhere to where we continue to look at a 50 to 70 basis point improvement in operating margins every year, and that's kind of what we've got built into this and fully expect we'll do that through both gross margin expansion as we've done, but continue to gain leverage in the P&L where appropriate.

So that's kind of how we've constructed that double-digit earnings. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Operator: Next question will come from Vijay Kumar from Evercore ISI.

Vijay Kumar: Hi, Robert. Good morning, and thanks for taking my question. My first one on maybe on the product side. Aveir, like you mentioned, another double-digit quarter. Just curious on where are we from a penetration standpoint, what innings are we in? And you know, how durable is this double-digit growth in a category that's, you know, a pacemaker, low single-digit growth category, and you guys are doing double digits?

Robert Ford: Sure. Well, I made some comments about, you know, we look at this rhythm management $10 billion market as actually an opportunity to grow. So we have been making our investments. Aveir, obviously, is a big driver of that, but we're making investments in other areas of the portfolio to kind of be able to support our ability to take market share and grow at a differentiated rate here. To your question on penetration, listen, the global low voltage or pacing segment market is around $5 billion. Whatever, $4.8 to $5.2, depending on what you're looking at, but let's just call it $5 billion. I'd say Aveir is about 10% of that right now.

So, you know, early innings here for us for sure. And as I said previously, when we began this process, I wasn't interested in just getting a flash in the pan sales growth for, like, a year or six quarters. So we really worked hard, and the team did an incredible job to really establish a new standard of care, and get physicians trained. It's a different type of implant. So what we're seeing here is really nice growth in places that, you know, a year, year and a half ago we began the training process and really seeing really strong penetration there.

If you look at just single chamber, I think right now The U.S., single chamber pacing, which is about 15% of the total market, that's about 50% penetrated. So there's still a long opportunity here in The U.S. and quite frankly, globally too. So I think the team has done an incredible job here where we've launched new products. We'll continue to launch new products in this space, and we think that this is the next standard CRM is these devices that are communicating with each other, that can be implanted transfemorally and don't use leads. The clinical evidence in terms of what they're able to deliver is pretty impressive right now.

So I think we've got a lot of investment here that will support this type of differentiated growth rate.

Vijay Kumar: Yeah, that's helpful, Robert. And my follow-up on, or I guess the second question is on cap allocation. Any updated thoughts on Exact Sciences deal close timing, you know, dilution? I think you mentioned 20¢. You know? And when you think about that, your leverage levels, it's still, you know, post-deal, it'll still be pretty modest. You still have capacity. I'm curious when you think about M&A versus divestitures or spin-offs, you know, MedTech right now seems to be spin-off seems to be the flavor of the season. I'm curious how you're thinking about those decisions.

Robert Ford: Well, you put a lot into that one there, Vijay. Let me see if I can unpack that. I think from a capital allocation perspective, you know, I've always been pretty consistent with our approach. I don't have a formula that x percent goes here, y percent goes there. We are committed to a growing dividend, and we did that again for 2026 when we announced our dividend back in December. So we're growing our dividend. But outside of that, you know, we'll allocate our capital in terms of what we believe is the best balance between short-term and long-term for our shareholders where we can create value.

Regarding M&A, listen, my focus right now is integration, closing Exact Sciences integration. That's going to be my primary focus. I think post-close, our gross debt to EBITDA ratio will be around 2.7 times. So to your point, we still have plenty of capacity. But I think in the near term, I'd say focus on integrating Exact Sciences. And if there's opportunities for us to add, there'll probably be more tuck-in type size deals to take advantage of. Regarding the status right now of Exact Sciences, I think we're making great progress towards closing. They've submitted, we've submitted all of our required clearances over here. There's a shareholder vote on February 20.

So right now, I'm not changing any assumption regarding timing of close or kind of EPS impact. And, you know, as we integrate and as we put the, you know, as we integrate the business, then we'll go updating it as we go along. But right now, there's no change in terms of timing and in terms of dilution. So I read your note last night, Vijay. I thought that you would have been asking a question about multicancer early detection and the opportunity that exists. I largely agree with your report. I think this is going to be another great opportunity for us.

And it's one that as we looked at the deal, says, okay, greater reimbursement of this type of test will really make this a very, very large segment. I think the way I see this is, you know, the same way that we have our lipid panel test every year, the same way that we do a cardiometabolic panel or a white and red blood count panel every year. You know, after a certain age, I believe that if the product is right, performs right, and it's priced the right way, I just envision this being that type of test.

So I think that if that becomes the case, I think your forecast is way under cold even on the upper side.

Vijay Kumar: That's helpful comments, Robert. Thank you.

Robert Ford: Thank you.

Operator: Our next question will come from Danielle Antalffy from UBS. Your line is open.

Danielle Antalffy: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks so much for taking the question. And Robert, just two questions for you on nutrition. Appreciate all that you're saying about the strategy there going forward. But I guess the first part of the question is, what gives you confidence that these are the right prices that you're landing at today to drive that volume increase? Like, did you guys do I appreciate it's global. So imagine it differs by market. And then the second question is now and tell me if I'm wrong here, but presumably nutrition has a different profitability profile and maybe talk about whether, how it changes your view about how this fits into the entire Abbott Laboratories portfolio.

Thank you so much.

Robert Ford: Sure. Regarding the pricing, so we did some pricing work just before Thanksgiving in time for, you know, what usually is a pretty busy kind of retail activity. And so we did different testing here in The United States. We did different testing internationally also. We got the results back on The US side pretty quickly. You get to see the impact pretty quickly. And like I said in the comments, I think the early signs are encouraging. But I also said, hey. We gotta keep monitoring this. You gotta keep monitoring it for the consumer. You gotta keep monitoring it for competitive activities.

But I think right now, based on what we have, I think we've kind of called it right. And, you know, regarding, you know, kind of allocating expenses, listen. We don't have a cookie-cutter approach across all the businesses. You know, it always depends on, you know, momentum, opportunity, the balance of the short and the long term, and so we take a very kind of detailed view in terms of how we're allocating. Yeah. The profitability has improved in this business. I'd say it's probably from a profile perspective going to be in line with what it was in 2025.

We've obviously got some adjustments in our spend level and learned how to spend a little bit better, and we did that also in Q4, shifting some of the focus from kind of, you know, marketing and brand to a little bit more kind of price and promotion. At least for these next six months. And that way, we're able to at least kind of maintain a kind of steady profile over here.

Danielle Antalffy: Thank you.

Robert Ford: Thank you.

Operator: Our next question will come from Matt Taylor from Jefferies. Your line is open.

Matt Taylor: Sorry. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to start with diagnostics and see if you could unpack the dynamics there a little bit more. You touched on the China headwinds, in VBP and mentioned some smaller programs or categories there. What's the outlook like for diagnostics in China? It does seem like the rest of the world's doing fairly well. But what do you foresee for China growth this year and next in diagnostics?

Robert Ford: Well, specifically in diagnostics, like I said, I think we've gone through what I would consider the bulk of our VBP based on the different, you know, the strength and the market share we have and the different aspects. The way they're going about this is they're just looking at categories of assays and then kind of implementing it in the first two were the ones that we had, you know, over 40, 45 market share in those markets. So we kind of felt that pretty significantly. I think the next big area of VBP is going to be on your regular kind of core lab oncology testing, and, you know, we have very little market share over there.

So listen. We put a new management team in place there. Put our most experienced commercial person that is driving that business. We've done a lot of work there between working with our distributors, segmenting the market, looking at our product portfolio, looking at different types of product offerings, you know, new product offering versus, you know, legacy product offering. So I think the teams have done a really good job there. And my expectation with that business going forward is, listen, I'm not expecting, you know, I'm not expecting big growth out of it. All I need for it is to be pretty stable.

And it being stable, I get to have the other parts of the portfolio that are accelerating. Our US business is actually done better than what it's done in the past, so we're capturing market share over there. Our Latin America business is doing better than what it's done in the past, capturing share there. Our European business is continuing to grow and got a good position over there. So I'd say the outlook of that business is we will be, I'd say, single-digit growth this year versus kind of where we were in 2025. And if you remove China, again, this is a full-year view.

If you remove China, then you're in those you're in that kind of 7 to 8% kind of range. So I don't like doing that, Matt, because, you know, China is part of our business. But you'll see an acceleration even with China just because it's a little bit more stable versus where it was last year.

Matt Taylor: Great. Thanks. And maybe I could just ask a follow-up on diabetes. You talked about some optimism for the outlook for the market and specifically around the non-insulin type two coverage. We've seen the guidelines change, and so I definitely see a potential for that coverage to expand significantly. You mentioned you've seen some progress in the process. And I guess I was wondering how you think that could play out in the first half of the year, what forms the new coverage could take, or any other thoughts that you had on that?

Robert Ford: I don't want to get ahead of myself. What I can tell you is, listen, there's definitely support. There's support from the ADA. There's support from other physician groups. Okay? And their support because the clinical data is backing that support up. Right? I mentioned that we've got three studies that we did with that patient segment and it shows this improved A1c and this better time and range.

So I think the support is backed up by clinical evidence and you've got a US HHS and CMS that sees the value of this type of technology, sees the value of being proactive in managing your health even if you're not taking medications or you're not taking insulin, bringing this type of technology improves outcomes. So you have a receptive CMS. Let's call it like that. Like I said, I think you're going to see some sort of language, Matt, in the first half. Okay? But I know how these things go. We've gone through them so many different times at different parts of the product. Language will come out, then there'll be a ninety-day comment period.

Then there'll be a sixty-day period to be able to evaluate it. And right now, could that be a different process? There could be a different process. It could be a much shorter comment period. It could be a much shorter implementation timeline. Because there is this support and desire to bring this to more people. But like I said, I'm not going to bake that in. I'm not going to bake that in just yet, but I am being prepared. That means the team is prepared. I mean, if it happened next week, I'd tell you they'd be prepared. So we're doing a lot of work there.

I think the key aspect as you think about that expansion is that it's going to happen predominantly in primary care. So how well are you set up? How well is your sales force deployed? How well is your integration into the healthcare systems with Epic and other another. So that's going to be an important part. And outside of that, I think we should just be, think, very enthused I mean, very enthusiastic that this will happen. Whether it happens in the second quarter, the third quarter, for me, like, I'm thinking about this. This is going to be a huge opportunity for this market, not just in The US, but globally for years and years to come.

So let's just get it right.

Matt Taylor: Great. Thanks so much. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question will come from Travis Steed from BofA Securities. Your line is open.

Travis Steed: Hey, thanks for taking the question. Maybe to spend some time talking about in MedTech kind of the macro procedure environment given some of the worries on APA subsidies. And then I'll just go ahead and my second question out. When you think about for total Abbott Laboratories and growth over 2026, we think about more Q1 first half being more in line with kind of the Q4 growth and then improve from there over the second half?

Robert Ford: Yeah. So, yeah, I think that's probably I think that's probably good. I mean, think you know, sometimes these puts and takes, you know, it kind of just masks, you know, sometimes it feels like you're better than what you are because you're lapping something, you know, So I tend to look at it also on a two-year stack basis. So if you look at it at a two-year stack basis, it looks pretty, you know, there's some acceleration. In Q3 and Q4, but not to the extent, you know, without, you know, just on a one-year, one-year basis. But I think that's the right way to look at it.

You know, obviously, we're always striving to do better, but I think that's a good it's a good starting point. What was your other question on med tech volumes? Yeah. Listen. I think I read some report that there were some concerns about med tech volumes in Q4. You know, we just reported our Q4. You're going to have a bunch of med tech companies that will report over the next couple of weeks. I would be extremely surprised if you hear that volumes were short in Q4. Our volumes were really good in Q4 across all of our categories. Even what is considered what we call, you know, more foundational or traditionally more slower growth kind of segment.

So I think the evidence on our print and our guide is not suggesting that the med tech volumes are slowing, and I think there continues to be given the innovation that's happening in the space, given the clinical evidence that's being generated with that innovation, I still see this as a very attractive segment, not just for, you know, this year or next quarter, but for many, many years to come.

Travis Steed: Great. Thanks a lot.

Robert Ford: Yep.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question will come from Joanne Wuensch from Citi. Your line is open. Good morning and thank you for taking the question. And I think I'm allowed to still say happy New Year. Two questions. I'll put them right Thank you. I'll put them right up front. EPD is sort of held up there in high single digits pretty consistently, but the macro landscape getting a little bit more complicated as we sit still here. I'd be curious if you see anything that we need to sort of be aware of over the next twelve, maybe twelve to eighteen months. And then my second question has to do with structural heart.

Looks like you've multiple products, we'll call them multiple shots, and goal is keeping that growth rate going nicely. Anything you want to call out in particular or anything we should be looking at for the upcoming medical meetings? Thanks.

Robert Ford: Sure. Regarding EPD, I mean, I think this team is incredibly resilient and I get that there's some concern about geopolitics going forward, but let's face it, Joanne. I mean, there's been macro challenges at least since I've been in this role for the last five years. And so yes. We gotta pay attention to them. Yes. We gotta navigate. But I'm going to rely heavily on a team that has shown that they can actually do that and do that in pretty difficult circumstances already. And continue to be able to drive the business in that, you know, seven, eight, 9% range here.

So yeah, it's we gotta be mindful of it, but this is a team that on at least in these markets, have proved to be very resilient, have deep connections in the market, deep relationships, you know, clinical, distribution wise. So, and now that we're bringing our biosimilar portfolio into these markets, biosimilars are now the fastest growing generic kind segment. I feel good about this business. I think, you know, the idea of bringing this differentiated portfolio in a team that has done extremely well in navigating all of this. I think we've got, you know, also strong aspirations for this business.

So, yeah, we'll keep an eye on out, but I don't think that, you know, it's something completely new for us or this business. We operate in 160 countries. We're truly a global company. So we will have to figure it out. So and then I think your question on structural heart, yeah, I mean, this is an area that we've invested heavily over the last couple of years. We've developed what I would consider best-in-class portfolio across all three valves. And I think we've got a lot of upcoming, you know, upcoming growth catalysts that will move its way through. I think we've got great new products with Navitor, Triclip, Amulet.

Most of these on the early are, I believe, still in their early cycle. Yep. You guys always ask would ask me about, like, when will MitraClip grow or get back to growth. I just clearly say we did double-digit growth in MitraClip. I think that's a result of some of the guideline changes that we're seeing and kind of reigniting some of the growth here in The US. But you got a lot of we got a lot of things going on in this business. We had label expansion in Navitor and MitraClip. Got a next-generation repair technology coming out with both MitraClip and TriClip, fifth generation. I mentioned guideline changes to MitraClip and Triclip. That's having an impact.

We just got approval or got approval for Triclip in Japan. That's a whole new market for us that we see a huge opportunity, a big opportunity for us, and we're launching that as we speak in Q1. We've done some bolt-on M&A in this business. I think I mentioned this last time. We acquired a company called Lara Lab, which is an AI-powered imaging interventional cardiology company that's we're integrating that into our product offerings now for pre-procedure planning. So I think that's going to help also since imaging is such an important part in these procedures. And then the pipeline looks really good too. We've got our next-generation amulet. Expect to be launching that beginning of next year.

We're going to go into trial, into our IDE trial with our balloon TAVR in the second half of this year. So, again, as I'm thinking about I know what's going to launch in 2027, and I know the impact that those launches are going to have in terms of our growth rate, and we're building our pipeline to be able to ensure that we can sustain that growth in 2028. And I look at this Balloon TAVR program as really being important to do that. And then we're also going to start our IDE trial for our trans-mitral valve replacement program too, which I think is going to be best-in-class.

So I think this team has got not only an incredible pipeline to work with, but we've also been making the investments on the clinical side, clinical teams, sales reps, across the world. So I think we're well-positioned in our structural heart business. Crystal, we'll take one more question, please.

Operator: Thank you. And our last question will come from Josh Jennings from TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Josh Jennings: Just keep it to one on capital allocation, starting to circle back. But I think the focus for your team, Robert, has been to kind of look at inorganic ads for the devices and diagnostics franchise that played out with the Exact Sciences acquisition. I mean, should we be thinking that remains the focus? Or is the nutrition recovery can you can that business get back to mid-single-digit growth without any business of external business development initiatives? Thanks for taking the questions.

Robert Ford: Sure. Yeah. Listen, I'd say the capital allocation regarding M&A and kind of our focus is, you know, it's going to be in those two areas. Right? Med tech and diagnostics is where we see an opportunity. I don't consider a need for inorganic in, you know, in our nutrition business to execute the strategy that I just described, which is to more emphasis on volume growth. I think we've got the right products, the right brands, and the right teams in place to be able to kind of do that. We know, I think the biggest investment that we're making is, you know, we're seeing the impact of that now.

Which is, you know, addressing kind of, you know, price points and doing it comprehensively across the world so that we, you know, we can get everything kind of reignited back to volume growth. So I'd say that's the focus is med tech and diagnostics. So I don't think anything changes there. So I'll close here with a few comments. Listen, we've got I think we delivered a pretty strong year in 2025. Obviously, there were challenges. There'll always be challenges. We delivered on our original EPS target of double-digit, healthy margin expansion.

I think I've spent some time on this call talking about our high and how we think about our pipeline and ensuring that we have a nice cadence of pipeline going forward. Not just what we're launching this year, but what we're investing in this year so that we can be ready to launch in '27 and '28. So I think the pipeline has been very productive and we took a very important strategic step to shape Abbott Laboratories for the future, with the announcement of the Exact Sciences acquisition. I think that's going to add a whole new growth vertical for Abbott Laboratories.

And I think that cancer diagnostics is going to be a very important clinical and medical need for society, for global society. So I think we're going to be well-positioned there and I feel good about the timing and everything that we put in place there. So as we transition to 2026, yeah, I think I highlighted here, we've got a lot of businesses that are going to sustain what I would consider pretty differentiated growth rates high single digits, teens, and we can support those with the investments we made and the product launches that we've got.

And then we've got some large businesses that are going to have some inflection points and acceleration, whether it's Core Lab or even our electrophysiology business here. So I feel good about what we've got put in what we've laid out here in terms of our plan. Obviously, we strive to do better than that, and there's opportunities to do better than that. But I think as I sit here in January, this is a good starting point. And, with that, I'll wrap up, and thank you for joining us. Thank you all for your questions. This now concludes Abbott Laboratories' conference call.

Mike Comilla: Webcast replay of this call will be available after eleven a.m. Central Time today on our website abbott.com. Thank you for joining us today.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a wonderful day.