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Friendshore First, Trade War Second

May 03, 2025 ()

Economic interdependence is unraveling. What comes next?

Edward Fishman is the author of Chokepoints: American Power in the Age of Economic Warfare. Fishman teaches at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs and has served in the Pentagon and State Department. Mary Long caught up with Fishman to discuss:

- How the US dollar became the most powerful currency in the war.

- Playing defense in a trade war.

- The economic effects from an embargo on Chinese goods.

Host: Mary Long

Guest: Edward Fishman

Producer: Ricky Mulvey

Engineer: Rick Engdahl
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