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Axon Enterprise (AXON -0.67%)
Q4 2020 Earnings Call
Feb 25, 2021, 5:00 p.m. ET


  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Andrea James

First we're going to give prepared remarks, and then we'll bring all of our analysts up into gallery view for Q&A. I hope you've all had a chance to read our shareholder letter, which was released after the market closed. You can find it at Our remarks today are meant to build upon the information in that robust letter.

If for some reason, we lose Internet or Zoom connectivity, we'll make every effort to post a copy of our prepared remarks to During this call, we will discuss our business outlook and make forward-looking statements. Any forward-looking statements made today are pursuant to and within the meaning of the safe harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These comments are based on our predictions and expectations as of today, and are not guarantees of future performance.

All forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially. These risks are discussed further in our SEC filings. Finally, we really encourage you all to look at our updated ESG and corporate social responsibility report, which we published today in conjunction with our earnings. We are increasingly conscious of our social and corporate responsibility as our company and our shareholder base grows, and we're pleased to share this comprehensive report with you.

Angel Ambrosio, whom you're familiar with on this call is our senior manager of investor relations and ESG, and we welcome you to reach out to us on this topic that's interesting to you. OK, go ahead, Rick.

Rick Smith -- Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Andrea. Hi, everybody. I want to start by talking about 2020. The conventional narrative is that 2020 was a terrible year.

I'd like to offer a different perspective. Challenging times bring out the best in humanity. These are the times that inspire us to rise up to overcome, to stretch ourselves. The hardest times become our finest hours.

If we choose to focus on the negative there was plenty to see in 2020. But if we look harder, we can see so many signs of hope and progress, supercharged by a global play, nations sprung into the kind of arms race we should want to see competing ferociously to cure a pandemic, and we all know the results. Multiple vaccines developed ten times faster than ever before. We adapted to a world where travel was simply off the table.

So we virtualized ourselves, and we learned to zoom around the world for business. And we got to see our kids for dinner every night. My customer engagement has jumped more than tenfold as customers are now open to video concreting. And we've enjoyed seeing you, our analysts and our investor community face-to-face in our new quarterly conference Zoom calls.

I don't mean to minimize the pain we all experienced in 2020. I understand, and I shared it. My mother passed away days before Christmas after contracting COVID. But even in that's sorrow came progress as we came together and we healed some fractured relationships within our own family.

I would not have chosen for 2020 to turn out as it did, but as we've said before, we don't get to choose what the world throws at us, but we can choose how we respond. The urgency resulting from the intent social strike in 2020 is accelerating the world's readiness to move beyond bullets to a world where telling each other is no longer something we simply accept is some immutable facet of human society. It is supercharged our energy as we redouble our efforts to deliver TASER energy weapons that will outperform a traditional side arm before this decade is out. And our customers are embracing this goal.

They have told us that the bar will be very high but I'm confident our team will deliver. 2020 was also a year where Axon delivered incredible value to our customers and the communities they serve. As you can see, you can see it in our results. We knew that adversity would present opportunities for those individuals and those organizations that are nimble and adaptable just as ice ages create breakout opportunities for adaptable species to explosively grow in thereafter.

In the weeks following the arrival of COVID in North America, we transformed our offices into adjunct manufacturing spaces, allowing us to spread out, create social distance, and continue to deliver exceptional results that far anteed our most optimistic expectations. We didn't just deliver on our operational goals, we significantly outperformed them. I'm personally humbled by our team's ability to deliver exceptional results in a year filled with so much turmoil and adversity. We exceeded our goals and exited 2020 better position than we've ever been before from an operational strategic and financial perspective.

Here's a few highlights. We inked our first two programs of record with the federal government, including a $13 million U.S. customs and border protection order for body cameras and digital evidence management. In the fourth quarter, we signed our largest TASER contract in company history, a $20 million order for TASER 7 from an international customer, eclipsing our record $15.5 million TASER order from the Department of Homeland Security in the prior quarter.

In 2020, we passed $1 billion in total bookings, with the majority of that coming from our core market of state and local public safety. In 2020, we also delivered the largest single contract deal in company history, a $46 million officer safety plan with one of our major city customers. On the product side, we launched Auto Transcribe, deployed customers on both respond and in records, debuted unique new capabilities like priority ranked video audit, and countless found software and device firmware improvements. At Axon, we are continuing to look forward.

We had a recent executive planning session where we asked ourselves, where do we want to be at the end of this decade. And our answer was simple. Our vision is to be globally synonymous with our mission of protecting life by building the world's largest and most trusted network of safety devices and services. What an amazing opportunity to be part of such a talented team with such an aspirational mission.

I'd like to conclude by [inaudible] as a key partner to transforming public safety, we hear stories daily about customers using our products to save lives and to protect communities. Our Net Promoter Scores are hitting new heights. And our customers are actively and enthusiastically supporting our mission to make the bullet obsolete so that officers will no longer have to make the most terrible choices. We know that we're welcoming a lot of new shareholders onto our growth journey.

So thank you for joining us for taking an interest. And with that, I'd like to turn over the call to our president, Luke Larson.

Luke Larson -- President

Thanks, Rick. As 2020 showed us, a lot that happens in this world is outside of our control. Against that backdrop, Axon employees really showed up engage their best in the areas that matter the most. I want to give an emphatic thanks to all of our employees.

Thank you. At Axon, we've built an amazing team, and that talent is a huge asset and competitive advantage that doesn't show up on the balance sheet. Our team is laser-focused on a clear mission, inspired by our purpose and leaning in with an owner's mindset with a maniacal focus on delivering value for our customers. In 2020, we focus on our commitment to the mission, to our customers and the caring for the health and safety of our employees.

In 2020, Axon was able to outperform in a difficult year because we built a phenomenal team. Looking to the future, our company has the talent, infrastructure and capabilities to manage challenging environments and thrive. The company earned this position over three decades by taking risks, making bold decisions, investing hundreds of millions of dollars in research and development, countless hours of engineering, tens of thousands of hours of customer meetings, and most importantly, maintaining an unfaltering commitment to our mission. As we look to 2021, and we have four key objectives: one, grow the core; two, scale new products; three, unlock new markets; and four, drive efficiency to fuel growth.

We're also taking care of the amazing team that we've built. Our employees' health and growth remains a top priority. We recently added Ginger, a mental health app, providing 24/7 support to our employees as well as rolled out Linkedin Learning to the entire company. In 2021, we will continue to look for ways to support our working parents and caregivers.

In 2021, and we'll continue to invest in our people, products and sales channels, helping individuals level up, aim higher and push harder to make our mission a reality. I'll close out by talking about one of the areas of added investment, which allows us to go after a $2 billion total addressable market, and that is our investment in virtual reality training. As a former military officer, I saw how the DODs near unlimited budget can create amazing training like filled with thousands of Arabic speaking actors, huge multi group training as well as unmatched simulator training with pilot used for flight training. In law enforcement, though, they don't have the luxury of these enormous budgets or the benefit of having the majority of their time available to train.

With virtual reality, we can leverage the best-in-class instructors and training to create scenarios that can be used across hundreds of thousands of officers bringing the cost down to a very economical price that can democratize training and action is poised to be a leader in creating this new category, just like we've done with the TASER devices, our Axon Body cameras, our digital evidence management system, And we're going to do it again with the virtual reality training. In 2021, we intend to transform how agencies train our officers by addressing the inefficiencies around the classroom full playing and simulator train and by leveraging VR, we can address their two biggest issues, budget and time. We'll accomplish this through three assets: First, we have an exciting product launch that we can't say more on, but it is coming soon; second, we intend to regularly release new training modules; and third, we are doubling down on our community engagement training preform.

We're seeing encouraging signs on demand for this product, and we're excited about where it can go. Earlier, I talked about the amazing team and culture we've built at Axon. Before I hand it over to our CFO, Jawad Ahsan, you want to learn more about that culture. I recommend you check out his book What They Didn't Tell Me, you can get it on Amazon.

So with that, let me turn it over to our CFO, Jawad Ahsan.

Jawad Ahsan -- Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Luke. I want to start by talking about the number 28. I'm now referring to the number of days in this month, but rather three important milestones we hit as a company this quarter. We delivered 28% growth on revenue over 2019, 28% compound annual growth in revenue over the last five years, and we finished the year with 28% in adjusted EBITDA margins.

Now before I dive deeper into these, I want to talk about something else, the perception of our two business segments. We've discussed with you at great length, the investments we've been making in our pivot to a tech-enabled solutions company. The perception of our software and Sensors segment is best described by letting the numbers speak for themselves. Year-over-year, total revenues in this segment grew 26%, and our ARR grew 37%.

When I joined Axon in 2017, and our stock price was at $22, and many investors told me that they viewed our stock as appropriately valuing our TASER device business with a free option on a high-growth software business. I think it's safe to say that we're now seeing some value in our stock price for our software business. But what about that TASER devices segment, the one that's been around since 1993? Was there maybe a perception that its best days are behind it? If so, we shattered that perception with our 2020 results. Our TASER Weapons segment grew revenues 30% year over year, outpacing even our fast-growing software and sensors segment.

We're very proud of the TASER energy devices that we've built. And believe that there's still a large base of untapped customers who have yet to adopt. So the 28% revenue growth over 2019 was really fueled by strength across the board in body-worn cameras and software and especially in TASER devices. We feel that this validates our strategy to invest aggressively in both R&D and channel expansion.

R&D to stay ahead of the innovation curve in all of our product segments and channel investments that will unlock new markets and new geographies. We're going to run this play again in 2021. When we look back over the past five years and the 28% CAGR on revenue, that's also the result of investments we've been making along similar lines. As we look ahead to the next five years, we're very excited by the next wave of new products and technologies that are going to become an important part of our growth story in their own right.

Technologies like VR, which Luke just talked about earlier, and we feel can have a transformative impact on the critical area of training for law enforcement. Technologies like Axon Respond in our live streaming platform. What's particularly exciting with this one is the interest we're seeing outside of our core law enforcement market. For example, coronavirus in the vaccine rollout is top of mind for communities all over the world.

A municipal security unit in Chile has been trialing Axon Respond live streaming to ensure the quality and security of the supply chain and transportation process for COVID-19 vaccine distribution in their community. Another technology we're excited about is our new ERP and CRM. Many people across Axon are working incredibly hard on upgrading these critical support systems and their associated processes and they're already driving huge efficiencies as the early modules come online. Luke also talked about the importance of driving efficiencies to fuel growth and we're laying the foundation today for a company that will be able to scale to $1 billion in revenue and well beyond.

Now you might be wondering why am I choosing to highlight our new ERP along with sexier technologies like VR and live streaming. And I'm doing it to highlight something I can sum up in one word, discipline. We have our sight set on some lofty goals by 2030, as Rick mentioned, but our feet are firmly planted in the here and now. I'm so proud of the discipline we exhibit as a company on a day-to-day basis.

In our capital allocation decisions, our budgeting, our execution. This is a team that is absolutely dialed in and ready to build on our momentum and take our company to even greater heights. And with that, we're going to turn it over to questions.

Andrea James

Thank you, Jawad and team. Let's take our first question from Jonathan Ho at William Blair. Go ahead, Jonathan.

Jonathan Ho -- William Blair -- Analyst

Hi there. I just want to just start out with sort of a tremendous quarter and the year that international had. Can you maybe talk about what is driving sort of that increased demand? And is there sort of a broader mindset shift that you're seeing with either how agencies or national police forces are starting to look at the TASER?

Josh Isner -- Chief Revenue Officer

Thanks, Jonathan, for the question. Ultimately, I think it's just a lot of hard work that our team is putting in. A few years ago, we said we were going to continue to focus on Tier one markets until we felt really good about earning the right to go into Tier two and three markets. And now we're starting to see that kind of mechanism pay off.

And this was a foundational year in 2020 in some of our Tier two markets. We're seeing new markets by TASERs at high volumes, and we're extremely excited for that trend to continue this year. And so we're really focused on growing the TASER business and then earning the right to expand into other product lines in these markets, and we're going to continue to execute day-to-day toward that end.

Jonathan Ho -- William Blair -- Analyst

Got it. And just as a follow-up, have state local government pressures created any sort of headwinds in terms of your pipeline of opportunities. Or is it actually the reverse where maybe this is opening up some opportunities just given your strong value proposition? Thank you.

Josh Isner -- Chief Revenue Officer

You know, I can't really offer an opinion on that, to be honest. I think it's more just, we're focused on covering the market as best we can, not only in state and local, but in federal and international as well. And by doing that, certainly, we feel like we have the best products in law enforcement and public safety, and we're going to continue to tell that story and make customers very happy and turn them into evangelists for our company. And regardless of what pressures may or may not exist in any given year, we think that's the long-term winning formula.

Andrea James

Thank you, Jonathan. And analysts, we do -- we have you all in the queue. We added you one by one as you joined the call this afternoon. So we've got you.

No need to do the hands raise, but we appreciate the question. OK. Will Power from Baird is our next. Go ahead, Will.

Will Power -- Baird -- Analyst

Right, great. Yes, this is a bit of a follow-up, I guess, to the previous question in the international comments. But just looking at TASER, obviously, just a huge quarter. Any other color you can provide on the key underpinnings there, as you look at the upside in the quarter, what was the upside surprise if there was? Obviously, you had one big customer that looks broad-based more than that.

Is it tied to certain geographies, certain types of local agencies versus federal? Anything else you'd call out with respect to that TASER strength?

Rick Smith -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes, sure. So I think we had some visibility into some large deals in Q4, but not to get too specific, but some of the challenges in this environment are making sure we can deliver and get accepted in short periods of time. And we did get the order in time in Q4, and we're able to deliver it. We view that as kind of a 50-50 proposition in early November.

The team did a fantastic job executing. But behind that one large order, there were a series of kind of midsized orders in international across all three geographies; the Americas, EMEA and APAC, and I think it just speaks to the work the team is doing to really focus in on markets that are now ready to move to more less lethal solutions. And again, we believe we can parlay that into body camera adoption and records management adoption and virtual reality adoption and so forth over the long term.

Will Power -- Baird -- Analyst

If I could stick a question for Luke. I know as you talked about the key 2021 objectives, you had four key ones. One of them were scaling new products. Wonder if maybe if you could just update us with respect to records and respond, what are you putting in place to accelerate growth there? What does that cadence of opportunities look like as you kind of move through 2021 here?

Luke Larson -- President

Yes. Well, we're seeing a lot of interest from our customers, specifically around the entire kind of Axon portfolio, where we see the biggest adoption of these capabilities is in our officer safety plans that we offer. I'm going to turn it over to Jeff Kunins to add a little more color on the specific product details.

Jeff Kunins -- Chief Product Officer

Sure. Thanks so much for the question. So on records, we're -- we continue to be incredibly pleased with our momentum and records. A latest good data point is that 40 agencies have now signed or in deployment or are live on one or more modules of records, including more than a dozen, we've committed to full replacement of their legacy RMS.

In addition to that, within that early momentum with major cities specifically continues. two recent examples are that Atlanta actually went live on the standard use of force module of records in Q4. And Baltimore, which has been publicly announced before as an upcoming full records customer is on track for their deployment this year. So we're incredibly excited about the continued accelerating momentum there.

Also, as we -- you saw in the shareholder letter on respond for devices, we had a seven times growth in live streaming and other aspects of engagement of the product over the last six months and continue to really see really strong adoption of all aspects of response for devices across the footprint. And as Rick talked about in the beginning, some of the key further additions we're making to the product line that compound the value of all those pieces together that we're most excited about include Auto Transcribe. So now that our Auto Transcribe unlimited package is out, it powers a whole variety of scenarios, including not just accelerating evidence management, but also new capabilities like priority ranked video audit, which really helps agencies use the data that's underneath their body camera video to help them with making sure that they're compliant with policy and helping make them make their body warm camera programs more effective than ever.

Andrea James

Thanks. Well, really appreciate it. Next question from Jeremy Hamblin at Craig-Hallum. Go ahead, Jeremy.

Jeremy Hamblin -- Craig-Hallum Capital Group -- Analyst

Thanks Andrea. Congratulations on an incredible year to the team. I wanted to come back to the international for a second, where you clearly have a ton of momentum and I think this is probably directed toward Josh. Just in understanding the international sales cycle, which has typically been longer over the years.

It does seem like with the momentum that potentially there's greater urgency being seen with the customers that you're talking to. But I wanted to get a sense on whether or not that international sales cycle is starting to compress and if you're realizing these contracts sooner? Or this is just reaping the fruit of a number of years of laying foundation, but it does feel like that sales cycle is compressing a little bit.

Josh Isner -- Chief Revenue Officer

Yes. Certainly. Thanks, Jeremy. I think it is compressing a little bit.

And I think the other element we have is we've added to our international team pretty substantially over the last three or four years. I think it's probably started around 10 people in 2016 that were direct sellers, and we've multiplied that by two or three at least. And the result of that is we just have more activity in the pipeline quarter-over-quarter. So that pipeline is starting to come into fruition, and there's certainly an element of the sales cycle seems to be speeding up a little bit, but we just have way more opportunities now every quarter and certainly, it relieves a little bit of pressure of fewer opportunities, and we have more ways to get there now, which feels great, and we're going to continue to focus on building that out, and we're making some investments again this year in certain markets to create even more momentum.

And hopefully, we'll continue to see that trend in the years to come.

Jeremy Hamblin -- Craig-Hallum Capital Group -- Analyst

Great. And I wanted to ask, I know you can't provide a ton of details around the new product launch. But historically, when you've had major product launches, you take a little bit of a step back on the margin front, investment being made, both on the sales side of the equation, but obviously, also some in R&D. I just wanted to get a sense in terms of the revenue base as a whole is significantly larger than it's been in the past.

And just to get a sense for if there is going to be some margin drag this year, can you quantify, can you give us a sense of the magnitude as you look at both what sounds like an entirely new product launch, but also some of the other -- whether it's records, developments or dispatch, whatnot, the potential drag that you might see on margins?

Jawad Ahsan -- Chief Financial Officer

Yes, I'll take this one. Jeremy, it's a good question. We are not expecting any margin drag from the new products that we're launching. We're actually expecting some margin expansion.

In 2020, we were looking at some of the headwinds that we had on TASER. We also had some customer mix as far as international shipments, and that's behind us. And so in this year, even with the new products we're launching. For some of the newer ones specifically like VR, there's a little bit of a drag from a hardware perspective, but it's so small as so as to be negligible overall, we're not expecting any drag.

Jeremy Hamblin -- Craig-Hallum Capital Group -- Analyst

Last one for me real quick, on supply chain. So as you've gotten more federal contracts and so forth, and obviously, we know how you're producing Tasers and the cameras. Has there been any pressure to alter your supply chain? Is that something that you're considering down the road and where you're sourcing cameras and how the cameras are coming?

Luke Larson -- President

We've got decades of experience producing our TASER devices where ICAR is restricted, which means we have to manufacture in the U.S. And so we feel really, really good about that process. On the camera side, it's something that we definitely keep an eye on. As it sits today, we still feel really, really good with the way that we manufacture and then kind of load the final firmware on the product.

And so I don't see anything from kind of the supply chain side, I would defer to Josh, if he's hearing anything from the customers.

Josh Isner -- Chief Revenue Officer

Yes. I think we're in a fantastic position, inventory and supply chain wise. Our customers have been delighted that we've really, at times, accelerated the speed at which we're able to deliver large deals, and that's a huge credit to Josh Goldman and our entire operations team. They're just doing a fantastic job supporting our customers.

And this is actually, over the years, the best I've ever felt about our ability on the supply chain and logistics side to please customers. So I'm really, really bullish going into this year in that regard.

Jeremy Hamblin -- Craig-Hallum Capital Group -- Analyst

Great. Congrats and best wishes this year.

Andrea James

Thank you, Jeremy. Next question is from Eric Lapinski at Morgan Stanley. Go ahead, Eric.

Erik Lapinski -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

Hi. Thanks and congrats on the quarter. Last month, you announced a deal with a private security company. And I guess I'm just wondering what kind of opportunity do you think that market can represent.

Are you seeing interest from other private customers? Or is that maybe a one-off type deal that wouldn't be something we could see again? And are there investments you could make to attack that?

Josh Isner -- Chief Revenue Officer

Yes. Absolutely. It's a great call last year, our private security business doubled, and the only thing that really changed was a little more focus on it. We have a team led by Mike Shore that is divided between private security and enterprise use cases.

And this year, that team is really focused on at least doubling, hopefully, tripling that private security number again. And building out our first group of customers in non-law enforcement use cases. So we're really excited about both of those opportunities to expand the TAM and really find ways to generate returns on an investment of body cameras for businesses outside of public safety.

Erik Lapinski -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then maybe if I could just kind of squeeze one on the dispatch side. I know you had mentioned kind of over the last few quarters that you're building in incremental capabilities and maybe that would be a hold off for certain customers to start adopting that.

I guess just wondering like where you are with that? Do you feel that the product is there? Is there enough of a road map for even a larger police department to kind of see it and potentially hold off on a replacement to migrate to you? Or I guess, just -- I know it's early, but anything we can to this on there?

Jeff Kunins -- Chief Product Officer

Sure. Thanks, Eric. Great question. I think first, like we said before, dispatch and really more broadly, this idea of respond of a real-time operations platform is a multiyear journey.

And so we're very confident that over the next three to five years, we're going to wind up being number one in what's traditionally called the legacy computated dispatch market, but our sites are even broader and more ambitious than that. But as Jawad said earlier, our feet are also very firmly planted in the present. And so like right now today, as you know, we have one city live on our dispatch platform, and we have multiple more that are signed and sold in the queue for deployment over the course of this year and going forward. So we feel very good about that pipeline.

Just like we talked about records and really in any software category where you have an insurgent trying to unseat legacy competitors, which, in this case, we're the insurgent, there's this journey of building up in the right way, the capability is needed to be the right fit for each successive chunk of the market, while adding on top of that, your unique differentiation that makes you a compelling reason to switch. And that has nothing to do with Axon or CAD or records, that's just the physics of any disruptive and surgent category like this. And we feel really good about where we're positioned and where we're going, even though it's early. And in the case of dispatch, the sort of sequence or latter there is first being great for law enforcement only PSAPs as opposed to also do fire and medical for sort of the midsized cities.

And then actually, after that, gearing up to also cover fire and medical, which we're actively working on this year. And then ultimately, to be not only the largest cities, but the multi jurisdiction PSAPs. So we feel fantastic about our trajectory, but it is early in that journey, but we need to keep you apprised as we win and deploy customers along that way.

Rick Smith -- Chief Executive Officer

Let me jump in as well. I want to share a story. I talked to a police chief of the first agency I believe, in the world, certainly in the United States, that is live streaming every call in the dispatch, video live stream, and it was just so rewarding to have that phone call to hear the things that we have been imagining come to pass. And the month that you shared with me was it's just a total game changer.

They found dispatchers are actually helping new officers in real time. He told me a story where the dispatcher heard a thud that the officer didn't, right? Because the officer is in the scene, they've got total vision. Sometimes, they're focused on their own safety. The dispatcher is sort of a dispassionate aid.

Well, turn out the thud in that case was a gun had been dropped to the person in the car dropped it and tried to kick it under the seat, the dispatcher told the officer, "Hey, I heard something. You should check." And they discovered there was a gun, and obviously, that's a pretty important piece of information the way it's unfolding. The other thing that they shared with me was that by having the dispatchers watch the call, they just have far greater understanding than when they're just listening to a few cryptic transmissions over the radio and they're getting real-time oversight of every incident. So you think about everything that happened last year, and now there's discussion about, well, how did the agencies pick the right videos to have a subsequent supervisory review? In this agency, they're reviewing every video, not by a supervisor, but by a dispassionate dispatcher.

And you can imagine if someone was saying something like I can't breathe, that could be reacted to right now where the dispatcher could say, "hey, I need a supervisor to check this out and see what's going on in real time, not find out weeks later that, that was happening. So is that sort of for transformative new capability that we are uniquely able to position. And you'll probably guess there's a little bit of a dynamic tension between me and Jeff, who keeps me honest, where it's like, hey, we need to do the things he was talking about there, we've got to deliver on the core functions of what they need to be a functioning system today and blending the right amount of these new capabilities because you've got to kind of have both and it's just been a wonder having Jeff on the team that I think he's really shepherding us through that process of how we blend the right mix of legacy features with the right mix of new features to be transformative and effective at displacing existing incumbents.

Jeff Kunins -- Chief Product Officer

All right. So one last tiny bit, just to put all that together, is exactly that combination of why we declare respond, and have a real-time operations platform, that's the real category. Historical CAD is cute. Real-time operations platform is skating to where the puck is going.

And from a business and this insurgent standpoint, the key is just like how with records an agency can adopt standards are use of first module of side-by-side with their legacy RMS, even before they might be ready to make a full migration, respond for devices, what we used to call at what there, what Rick was just referring to, our live streaming, any PSAP in conjunction with their law enforcement agency can easily deploy, respond for device right in their PSAP alongside their legacy CAD, even if they aren't ready to switch over for their full CAD but that not only gets them into these scenarios earlier, but it also gets them acculturated to our experience, and we think that's ultimately an accelerator to when they're ready to consider a full migration.

Erik Lapinski -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

Yes. That's awesome. Thanks for sharing that example. I mean, that's definitely the vision coming to life.

So congrats.

Rick Smith -- Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Eric.

Andrea James

Thank you, Eric. Next question from Derek Soderberg at Colliers. Go ahead, Derek.Thanks, Andrea. So I wanted to start with consumer TASER.

It looks like that was pretty strong again this quarter. I was wondering if you can sort of elaborate on what drove that strength again. I know there have been some tailwinds due to the pandemic and some other things that happened in 2020. Just curious as to your thoughts on that business as we sort of move past that a little bit.

How sustainable is consumer TASER strength? And I guess, maybe longer term, if you can update us on the strategy there to penetrate this -- the nonlethal weapons market?

Luke Larson -- President

Yes. Thanks for the question. Our consumer business doubled in revenues year-over-year, 2020 over 2019. And some of that early in the year was the pandemic and some of the just overall lift in firearm sales, and we were certainly a beneficiary of that.

We did put a new general manager of the consumer business in place around second quarter last year, and he's really up leveled our game. He is a marketing background, Matt Goren. He's got a very strong background in marketing, and he's tried to move things for us. It actually had a very immediate effect and we've seen that momentum continue into 2021, which is how we know it's not a fluke.

We've got some pretty lofty goals for the consumer business. We've got two new products that we're bringing to market by the end of this year. And longer term, our ambition as a company is still to make the bullet of sleep, and that doesn't just happen with building a better TASER device for law enforcement. We're planning on building a consumer device that also does the same thing.

And then I want to turn it over to Rick and let him talk a little bit about his vision as well.

Rick Smith -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes. So we started this business back in 1993, the original TASER was already being sold to police. Our original business model was to drop for consumer for two reasons. One, it is where we can actually do even more loral good by saving lives.

Police officers are involved in hundreds of legal force incidents every year. But private citizens shoot and kill 35,000 to 40,000 of each other every year. So we can save the most lives that we can have impact there. And from a market scale perspective, it's frankly just a much larger market.

So even the block and got to these ubiquitous law enforcement has a far larger, both dollar and unit volume they sell in the consumer market. So we're committed both for the business reasons and for the mission and north star regions to see the consumer continue to grow. And I think part of that -- I personally live, we will hit a tipping point when we can actually prove that we can outperform a standard nine millimeter, that is going to be transformative, not only in our core U.S. law enforcement.

I think every other police agency around the world, I don't want to start naming off entries here, but pretty much any country is not going to have the same relationship with guns that Americans do. So let's just take Iceland as an example. If we could outperform their black hand guns, all of a sudden, I think we could become the standard weapon, and I just picked that as a totally random country. But you go around the world, and I think the minute that we can actually say, this could replace your firearm.

Every police force that carries a firearm is now a customer, and they're going to be under tremendous political and moral pressure to use the better, safer thing that saves large. I think that also opens up the consumer market. So I think we're in the early innings. We entered enforcement in 1999 to prove the technology work so we could reenter the consumer market, and that play has still not played out yet.

And I'd also like to say we moved consumer under Jawad a couple of years ago, and he gets a lot of credit for breathing new energy in, bringing and this is kind of Jawad's, one of his passion project is helping us in the consumer space.

Unknown speaker

Great. Thank you for all the detail on that. And as my follow-up, Rick, last quarter, you had sort of mentioned the conversation you had had with U.S. congressperson.

I guess now with the new administration, new representatives, I guess I'm curious as to how those conversations have evolved over the last quarter. Are you sort of feeling that same sense of optimism around maybe sort of a sweeping police reform bill that includes body cams or how is your sort of sense of optimism changed?

Rick Smith -- Chief Executive Officer

Well, my sense of optimism is pretty thoughtless. If anything, sometimes I need to people to make sure I keep my feet grounded. I would say that, though. I think that the trends toward body cameras and lessee weapons and all the things we're doing is really more ground up.

There's certainly been some talk about whether there's going to be a legislative action at the federal level. I don't want to guess on that. I mean, that would obviously could be very helpful if it happens. But that's nowhere in our plans.

We think we are just continuing to win the hearts and minds of agencies and communities and the end user by delivering stuff that saves their careers, saves their lives, save them all the trauma of having to deploy lethal force or having their integrity question when something controversial happens and knowing they can defend themself to the body camera. So I think I wouldn't say anything has changed, positive or negative at the political level. I think we're just continuing to see that groundswell from the state and local. That's where these decisions really get made.

Unknown speaker

Great. Thanks so much.

Andrea James

Thank you, Derek. Our next question is from Keith Housum at Northcoast. Go ahead, Keith. Keith, you are up next and you're muted.

Keith Housum -- Northcoast Research -- Analyst

Sorry about that. I just want to echo guys, congratulations again on the quarter and a great year. If I can provide or dig down a little bit deeper on the TASERs for the year. Obviously, tremendous growth.

How much of that growth is coming from a nontraditional state and local agencies? You guys were talking about a number of different initiatives in terms of federal and jails and corrections and the security. But if you kind of provide a bit of color and break out between, I guess, the old sources of revenue, as well as the new?

Josh Isner -- Chief Revenue Officer

Yes, absolutely. I appreciate the question, Keith. International certainly was a big driver of CW weapons growth. I think we've talked about that to a large extent already.

Federal also is a place where we had a good year last year in terms of some new agencies coming on board with some of our newer crews this year, we certainly expect to see more of that in our federal business. We're really excited about a couple of the CW opportunities that are out there. And then state and local with really hitting our stride with TASER 7. State and local bookings.

It's a market we hear every year questions about hey, is the growth slowing down as it flattening out. And last year, state and local bookings were up almost 30%. And so that was -- I would say, pretty equal weighting between body cameras and TASERs. And so I think across all segments of the market, the team is doing just an exceptional job of making sure that we continue to grow the TASER line.

We certainly believe like every single law enforcement officer is better served carrying a TASER than not. And until that happens, we got a lot of work to do to bring that to fruition. So that's really what we're focused on, not only in federal or international, but also in state and local, where there's still plenty of room to go there.

Keith Housum -- Northcoast Research -- Analyst

OK. Appreciate it. And I would be remiss if I didn't ask the question about the guidance. It looks like the guidance for the full year next year is about 12% growth year over year.

You obviously got some great tailwinds at your back, but you're obviously going in some huge numbers at your content. If I look at cartridges, I look at the consumer devices, obviously, some good tailwinds for you. And you guys have never grown only 12%, I think, at least in the recent history ever. What gives you the indication that revenue growth is going to actually slow down so much year over year?

Josh Isner -- Chief Revenue Officer

Yes. We're certainly not done. In the last couple of years, you've seen growth in the mid- to high 20s. You've also seen that those years tend to be back-end loaded.

Q3 and Q4 combined are usually significantly higher than Q1 and Q2 combined. And so as we think about it, right, it's early February. We're certainly trying to sell far more than 760, and that's our goal every year is to exceed our growth rate in the previous year. But having said that, we haven't seen the pipeline materialize for the back half to the point where we can be a little more aggressive on our guidance.

And in quarter one, we have to be responsible and disciplined about how we guide. And so this is something we're going to revisit every quarter. And as that back half pipeline materializes, you'll certainly hear more about that as it is happening. But on day one here, we're starting with 760.

And like I said, though, and like you said, we have a lot of tailwinds, and we're really focused on another great year in revenue.

Keith Housum -- Northcoast Research -- Analyst

OK. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Andrea James

OK. Anybody have anything to add? OK? So we're not seeing any slowdown just want to make that clear.

Jawad Ahsan -- Chief Financial Officer

Thank you Andrea, I actually might piggyback on that from an EBITDA standpoint for guidance, just how you should think about that, provide some more context. So ever since I joined Axon, it's been really important to me that we're demonstrating both growth on our top line as well as driving leverage on our bottom line. And we've not only done exactly that over the last few years, but it's also been a central tenet of our long-term guidance, as you know. So it's super important to us that we're continuing to invest to stay ahead of the innovation curve.

That's another sort of thing that we're trying to solve for. So every year, we put together an operating plan or a budget that's trying to solve for those three things; top line growth, driving leverage and investing for growth. And it's actually super hard to do, but we've got a very talented management team, and that's what we've been doing. However, one of the dynamics, as Josh pointed out, of our business is that our revenue profile throughout the year is back-half weighted.

And even then it's really more concentrated in Q4 than in Q3. So what happens is if we hit our revenue targets, our EBITDA comes in on plan, on our internal plan. And we drive that a little bit of incremental margin expansion while still having invested in things like R&D or the channel but if we beat our revenue targets, especially in the fourth quarter, it's too late in the year to reinvest that upside. So we return it to shareholders, which is exactly what you saw this past quarter.

So that's how you should be thinking about it from an EBITDA standpoint, Keith, our base plan is solving for top line growth, incremental leverage and investing for growth. And to the extent that we exceed on the top line, that will allow us to drive even more leverage.

Andrea James

Got it. Thanks, Jawad. OK. Last question, I believe, unless anybody has follow-up is from Scott Berg at Needham.

Go ahead, Scott.

Scott Berg -- Needham & Company -- Analyst

Great. Congrats on the awesome quarter. I guess we've got a couple of questions. Jawad, just a point of clarification, first of all, on the large TASER sales in the quarter.

Were those -- was that $20 million order all for TASER 7s, given its international and their propensity historically to buy something other than that? I just wanted to clarify that.

Jawad Ahsan -- Chief Financial Officer

Yes, Josh, why don't you weigh in. That was all TASER 7.

Josh Isner -- Chief Revenue Officer

It was TASER 7 and accessories associated with cartridges, batteries, holsters and so forth.

Scott Berg -- Needham & Company -- Analyst

No, got it. And then just as a part of that is where they all purchased on a subscription plan? Or were they kind of an upfront product purchase? And I saw the mix in the quarter certainly down shifted for the mix of TASERs on subscription.

Josh Isner -- Chief Revenue Officer

Yes. It's a great question, Scott. So for us, in Tier one markets, as well as in the United States, we do sell TASER 7 on subscription. But in Tier two markets and Tier three markets, we actually sell TASER 7 in a similar bundle, but it's available for an upfront purchase.

And the reason we do that is twofold. Number one, oftentimes, there's distributors in the middle of the deal, and that complicates how the subscription would work. In this case, there was no distributor. But Part two is we don't have a very strong, well-documented payment history with some of these first-time buyers for large TASER orders.

And thus, to protect the company and shareholders, we do ask to be paid upfront so that we're not recognizing revenue ahead of getting paid more or less.

Scott Berg -- Needham & Company -- Analyst

Awesome. That's great. And then my final question, I don't know if this is for yourself, Josh, or maybe for Rick, is your live stream usage up seven times from April to December, it's a big number. I know it's coming off a small base because you're just starting to get those devices in people's hands at the end of last year.

But is that helping in the sales cycle yet? Are you seeing the ability to take that evidence or to take those customer experiences and actually parlay that into new customers that are on the fence, whether or not to buy the AB3.

Rick Smith -- Chief Executive Officer

Josh, I'll let you take that one.

Josh Isner -- Chief Revenue Officer

Yes. We're really excited about where live streaming is going. Certainly, I think over this last year, we've seen a ton of very interesting use cases for the product, and we continue to see more and more. This is something that, as new a new body camera customers that are purchasing AB3.

We are seeing a reasonable number of them by live streaming on day 1 and then customers who have been upgraded to AB3 are trying live streaming early and often building it into their budget in the out quarters. And so under both kind of use cases, we are seeing an uptick in live streaming, and we think this is going to be central to the value proposition across all of our products long term. So certainly, it's an encouraging sign.

Jeff Kunins -- Chief Product Officer

Yes. I think the one thing to add to that is that when people buy access to respond for devices, even in addition to or instead of, if they're not ready-to-use live streaming per se, simply activating their use of that LTE chip and the camera unlocks a bunch of other scenarios as part of our software, including simply having accurate location for 100% of their evidence, which makes it easier to tag and find things later for like compliance as well as the transcription scenario I was talking about earlier where they can now configure us that all of the audio from their video automatically goes up to immediately upon finishing the recording so they can move even faster on some of the evidence management pieces. So response for devices, we love the live streaming scenario, but there's so much more that they unlock by buying that add on.

Scott Berg -- Needham & Company -- Analyst

Great. Congrats on the wonderful quarter.

Andrea James

Thanks, Scott. I wanted to build upon Josh's answer on the pager subscription question just real quick. So those Tier two markets are the markets that we're a little bit newer to or we don't have always the established payment histories that we would have in Tier one. Tier one tends to be the United States, the U.K., Australia, Canada, those English-speaking markets and Tier two are ones where we're new.

And so we feel confident that over time, we're going to be able to drive peter subscriptions in those markets, just like we did in the U.S. and in the U.K. But it's still early, and we also don't have the payment history to extend the credit to do that today. OK.

Are there any other questions? Did anyone put their hand up? No. OK. I think Rick we'll have you close us out.

Rick Smith -- Chief Executive Officer

Awesome. Thanks, Andrea, and thanks, everybody, for joining us today. Obviously, we're delighted to be able to turn in results like that, and I couldn't be more proud of the team. I was just sitting back, noticing and listening to my team, field the questions, it's just been amazing to see us come together, and it's been a challenging environment.

But what a year to have turned in, I couldn't be more proud of everybody who helped make that happening. Many of our employees and team members that are tuned in listening, thank you for just phenomenal effort in a crazy year. So enough celebration on the great results in 2020. It's time to get to work on 2021, and we look forward to talking to you all on our next quarterly update.

Thanks, and stay safe.

Duration: 54 minutes

Call participants:

Andrea James

Rick Smith -- Chief Executive Officer

Luke Larson -- President

Jawad Ahsan -- Chief Financial Officer

Jonathan Ho -- William Blair -- Analyst

Josh Isner -- Chief Revenue Officer

Will Power -- Baird -- Analyst

Jeff Kunins -- Chief Product Officer

Jeremy Hamblin -- Craig-Hallum Capital Group -- Analyst

Erik Lapinski -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst

Unknown speaker

Keith Housum -- Northcoast Research -- Analyst

Scott Berg -- Needham & Company -- Analyst

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