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Magnite (MGNI 7.66%)
Q1 2023 Earnings Call
May 10, 2023, 4:30 p.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:


Operator

Hello, and welcome to the Magnite first quarter 2023 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator instructions]Please note today's event is being recorded.

And now, I'd like to turn the conference over to your host today, Nick Kormeluk, investor relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Nick Kormeluk -- Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Magnite's first quarter 2023 earnings conference call. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. Joining me on the call today are Michael Barrett, CEO; and David Day, our CFO.

I would like to point out that we have posted financial highlight slides on our Investor Relations website to accompany today's presentation. Before we get started, I will remind you that our prepared remarks and answers to questions will include information that might be considered to be forward-looking statements, including, but not limited to, statements concerning our anticipated financial performance and strategic objectives, including the potential impacts of macroeconomic factors on our business. These statements are not guarantees of future performance. They reflect our current views with respect to future events and are based on assumptions and estimates and subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause our actual results, performance, or achievements to be materially different from expectations or results projected or implied by forward-looking statements.

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A discussion of these and other risks, uncertainties, and assumptions is set forth in the company's periodic reports filed with the SEC, including our first quarter 2023 quarterly report on Form 10-Q and our 2022 annual report on Form 10-K. We undertake no obligation to update forward-looking statements or relevant risks. Our commentary today will include non-GAAP financial measures, including revenue ex-TAC, or less traffic acquisition costs, adjusted EBITDA, and non-GAAP income per share. Reconciliations between GAAP and non-GAAP metrics for our reported results can be found in our earnings press release and in the financial highlights deck that is posted on our Investor Relations website.

At times, in response to your questions, we may offer incremental metrics to provide greater insights into the dynamics of our business. Please be advised that this additional detail may be one-time in nature, and we may or may not provide an update on the future of these metrics. I encourage you to visit our Investor Relations website to access our press release, financial highlights deck, periodic SEC reports, and the webcast replay of today's call to learn more about Magnite. I will now turn the call over to Michael.

Please go ahead. 

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Nick. Q1 was a standout quarter for Magnite. Revenue ex-TAC grew 8%. CTV revenue ex-TAC grew 10%.

Adjusted EBITDA came in at 23 million, and we posted an adjusted EBITDA margin of 20%, all exceeding our guidance for the quarter. We continue to demonstrate the value of a differentiated strategic sell-side partner in the ad tech ecosystem. Our growth and outperformance relative to walled gardens and numerous peers in Q1 is further evidence that our strategy is working, and there is a big opportunity for a leading sell-side platform to serve the open internet. It is most evident in CTV.

We're having an ad service becoming critical to long-term success given that so much inventory is still transacted directly. CTV publishers require a fully integrated offering that maximizes yield across their portfolio of programmatic and direct inventory, providing tremendous performance advantages. At an increasing pace, we are seeing undifferentiated SSPs struggle as they are unable to serve customers in new formats or geographies with the depth of tools and solutions that customers demand. This has resulted in market share gains for Magnite, and we believe there are significant opportunities for market share gain in the future.

As we look forward, our growth expectations for 2023 have improved from our last update, and we expect this strength to continue throughout the year. David will provide greater detail on our financial results and future outlook in his prepared remarks. Our CTV results were propelled by strong performance in our SpringServe ad server business and by our managed service business, where we saw good traction with new and existing partners. We've had success this quarter with our lead partners in CTV that include LG, VIZIO, GroupM, Disney, FOX, and Roku, who recently announced changes to their go-to-market strategy.

Our momentum with these partners is very visible with our active participation in the upfronts and new fronts that have recently kicked off where programmatic continues to play a bigger role, especially as it relates to direct deals. On the new CTV partner front, Rakuten TV, one of the leading video-on-demand platforms in Europe, recently adopted the SpringServe Tiles solution. As a reminder, this proprietary ad unit provides publishers with the flexibility to showcase custom ad creative within the streaming interface in any size in a wide variety of formats. Rakuten joins VIZIO and others who are now leveraging Tiles to create incremental revenue opportunities and enhance the advertising experience and effectiveness within their platforms.

Moving on to TV Plus, we continue to build momentum with our initiatives in this business. TV Plus revenue ex-TAC grew 7% year over year, showing further improvement in share gains. We have seen broad-based improvement this quarter across many of the leading DSP partners we work with. As I've mentioned in the past, TV Plus growth is a result of many incremental wins and improving the fill rates between our publishers and DSPs.

And we look forward to continued strength as we drive further improvements in the quarters to come. We had a very busy quarter from a platform perspective. In February, we officially launched Magnite Streaming. Magnite Streaming is our next-generation CTV and OTT platform that merges the best features, functionality, and technology from Magnite and SpotX.

Customer feedback so far has been very positive. Migrations to date have gone very well, and we expect to have all migrations completed shortly after the end of Q2, as planned. On the product front, we also announced the launch of ClearLine in early April. ClearLine is a self-service solution that provides agencies direct access to buy premium video inventory across all Magnite publishers and is ad server agnostic.

ClearLine significantly increases spend going toward working media, makes it easier for sellers and agencies to securely share data, and helps Magnite publishers generate more revenue and develop new sources of unique demand. This product captures CTV ad dollars that have traditionally been transacted outside the programmatic channel through direct deals and, therefore, represents an incremental opportunity to bring additional ad spend into the ecosystem. In addition to our agency launch partners, we've received positive feedback from publishers as well who see this as a potential alternative to drive additional revenue. ClearLine has been portrayed by some in the press as an alternative to DSPs.

This couldn't be further from the truth. DSPs will remain the primary method for agencies to access premium video inventory on our platforms. ClearLine represents a programmatic market expansion for publishers, agencies, and DSPs. We are excited to share more details on ClearLine's traction in the coming quarters.

Also, on the technology front, we announced that SpringServe will be joining the Amazon Publisher Services, or APS, Ad Server Certification Program for streaming TV. Working with APS through the certification program is a significant opportunity for our SpringServe publishers as it will add Amazon DSP demand to their existing monetization solutions. We've been doing a lot of work behind the scenes in CTV audience creation and targeting, helping media owners extract greater value from their first-party publisher data while carefully protecting the confidentiality of their user IDs. This is a big shift from the browser world of display and online video where the buy side would typically perform this work through third-party cookies.

More to come on this in the quarters ahead. Before I turn it over to David to cover the financials, I'd like to mention the promotion of David Buonasera to the role of Magnite's new CTO. He's been pretty busy, as you can see from the platform and partner developments I just covered. David joined the company in 2021 when we acquired SpringServe, which he helped co-found and scale to a leader in video ads serving with an impressive global client list.

Prior to his appointment as our CTO, David was serving as a member of our office of the CTO, as well as leading our SpringServe and CTV platform engineering efforts. He is a phenomenal leader and technologist, and we're thrilled to have someone with David's unique experience and capabilities lead our global technology organization. Welcome, David. With that, I'll turn the call over to David Day for more details on the financials.

David?

David Day -- Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Michael. Q1 finished with strong momentum. As Michael mentioned, revenue ex-TAC, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted EBITDA margin all exceeded our guidance for the quarter. Total revenue for Q1 was $130 million.

Revenue ex-TAC was $116 million, up 8% from Q1 of 2022. CTV revenue ex-TAC was $46 million, up from $42 million or 10% from last year. TV Plus revenue ex-TAC was $70 million, an increase of 7% compared to Q1 last year. Automotive, travel, and food and beverage were our top growth verticals for the quarter.

Consumer categories such as technology, retail, and health and fitness made more modest improvements. Our revenue ex-TAC mix for Q1 was 40% CTV, 40% mobile, and 20% desktop. From a geographic perspective, we saw good international growth that was roughly double the growth rate of the U.S. Total operating expenses, which includes cost of revenue, for the first quarter increased to $231 million compared to $158 million in the same period a year ago, with the increase primarily driven by $53 million of noncash accelerated amortization resulting from our platform consolidation.

Adjusted EBITDA operating expense was $93 million and within our guidance range. This was an increase of less than 1% sequentially from Q4. We would typically see a bigger increase seasonally, but the impact was offset by our reductions. The increase from 78 million in Q1 of last year resulted from increased platform and personnel expenses, along with return-to-office travel and event-related costs.

Net loss was 99 million for the quarter compared to net loss for the first quarter of 2022 of 45 million, which includes the previously mentioned 53 million of accelerated amortization expense. Adjusted EBITDA was 23 million versus 29 million for the same period last year, and adjusted EBITDA margin was 20%. Note that we calculate our adjusted EBITDA margin as a percentage of revenue ex-TAC. GAAP loss per basic and diluted share was $0.73 for the first quarter of 2023 compared to a loss of $0.34 for the first quarter in 2022.

Non-GAAP earnings per share in the first quarter of 2023 was $0.04 compared to $0.08 reported last year. The 53 million of accelerated amortization expense had a negative impact on GAAP loss per share of $0.39 and a negative impact on non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.09 in Q1. The reconciliations to non-GAAP income and non-GAAP earnings per share are included with our Q1 results press release. We expect to recognize additional accelerated amortization expense of $53 million in Q2 and $8 million in Q3 this year.

There were 135 million weighted average basic and diluted shares outstanding for the first quarter of 2023. Fully diluted weighted average shares utilized for non-GAAP earnings per share were 144 million for the first quarter. Capital expenditures, including both purchases of property and equipment and capitalized internal use software development costs, were $10 million for the quarter. Operating cash flow, which we define as adjusted EBITDA less capex, was $14 million for the quarter.

Our net interest expense for the quarter was $8 million. During the first quarter, we purchased and retired approximately $50 million in face value of our convertible notes using approximately $41 million in cash, resulting in a discount of approximately 19%. We have 34 million remaining under our current program for the repurchase of common shares and/or convertible debt. Cash balance at the end of Q1 was 237 million.

The reduction from year-end is based on use of cash for the repurchase of our convertible notes, typical seasonality, and timing of receivable payments around quarter-end. Our net leverage ratio was approximately 2.5x at the end of Q1, down from 3.x year over year. We expect the ratio to be meaningfully below 2x at year-end. We are excited about our business and ability to generate strong cash flow while providing the flexibility to reduce debt and maintain a healthy cash position.

We continue to expect to generate significant free cash in 2023, especially in our seasonally strong second half. And we will continue to evaluate the best use of our cash as it relates to debt reduction and share repurchases. I will now share our expectations for the second quarter and thoughts for the year. Our guidance is based on recent growth trends, although we have been somewhat measured due to the continued uncertainty in the macro environment.

For the second quarter, we expect revenue ex-TAC to be in the range of $132 million to $136 million. We expect revenue ex-TAC attributable to CTV to be in the range of $56 million to $58 million. We expect adjusted EBITDA operating expenses to increase slightly from Q1 to between $94 million and $96 million, which implies adjusted EBITDA margin of approximately 29% for Q2 at the midpoint. For 2023, we expect our revenue ex-TAC growth rate for the full year to be in the high single digits, assuming current course and speed.

We expect that adjusted EBITDA opex will be lower in the second half of the year compared to the first half as we complete our CTV platform migration and remain focused on managing costs across the business. We anticipate full-year adjusted EBITDA will be comparable or better than 2022 and that adjusted EBITDA margins will show meaningful improvement in the second half of 2023. Our full capex expectation is unchanged, and we expect 40 million or less in 2023. And lastly, we continue to expect full-year free cash flow to exceed 100 million.

Q1 performance gives us a great start to 2023, and our differentiated market position as the leading independent sell-side advertising company puts us in a great place to accelerate growth and expand margins as the market improves. With that, let's open up the line for Q&A.

Questions & Answers:


Operator

Yes, thank you. At this time, we will begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator instructions] At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble the roster. And the first question comes from Laura Martin with Needham.

Laura Martin -- Needham and Company -- Analyst

Hi there. Great beat and great quarter, you guys. Congratulations.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Laura.

Laura Martin -- Needham and Company -- Analyst

Upfront week is next week. I'd like to drill down a little bit on ClearLine. One is I know that GroupM was your launch partner. Do you expect other partners and ClearLine announced imminently? And two, what's your business model? How do you make money from the ClearLine product? That's my first question.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Hey, Laura. It's Michael. Yeah, great question.

So, yeah, we're looking forward to upfront. As we said in the script, programmatic is playing a bigger and bigger role, and therefore Magnite is as well. You're right about GroupM. I do anticipate further announcements regarding client adoption of ClearLine, timing to be determined.

But yeah, the marketplace has reacted really positively. And again, to be clear, this is great for the industry because we're talking about freeing up those linear dollars that have been clogged largely because of the inability to transfer on the fee structure that is currently in place in programmatic. So, we think it's super exciting. As it relates to the fee structure for ClearLine, we're quite facile about it.

We would charge advertiser percentage of media, a CPM base fee, a SaaS kind of base fee. So, those conversations are ongoing, and we're quite flexible as it relates to what the model looks like.

Laura Martin -- Needham and Company -- Analyst

Terrific. And then my second question is about the two servers. I thought your point about ad service was really interesting. You said that you'd have -- it sounds like a majority adoption of the combined new platform by the end of the second quarter.

Is it your feeling that, as we're modeling the back half, therefore, we get to close down one of the two platforms, and therefore, there's cost savings in the back half of the year?

David Day -- Chief Financial Officer

Yes. This is David, Laura. That's correct. So, we'll have decreased costs from fully shutting down the legacy on-prem platform.

It'll be offset -- those costs will be offset slightly the new Magnite Streaming platform uses more cloud costs. It'll be some offset there. But net-net, it will decrease costs in Q3 and Q4.

Laura Martin -- Needham and Company -- Analyst

Great. Thanks very much, guys. Appreciate it.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you. See you next week.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Shyam Patil with Susquehanna.

Shyam Patil -- Susquehanna International Group -- Analyst

Hey, guys, great job on the results. I had a couple of questions. Michael, I know you had talked about this in the script, but can you just talk a little bit more about, you know, how you're feeling about the CTV business right now? Obviously, you had a great quarter, but how are you just thinking about the CTV business for the balance of this year and kind of growth and how new initiatives like ClearLine will layer into that? And then second question, you know, we're hearing a lot about, you know, walled gardens potentially opening up. How big of a tailwind do you think that'll be for you guys? And is this something that you think would impact, you know, the business in the near term? Or is it more kind of an intermediate to long-term kind of business impact from walled gardens opening up? Thank you.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, great question. I think CTV growth, again, is kind of a victim of the macro environment, and you look at the linear companies that reported this week, all had a really tough quarter. You look at YouTube's number, you can kind of tease out Roku's number from their platform number, and it's all been kind of some pretty decent headwinds. And although we showed, you know, low double-digit growth, I think that we anticipate the business to continue to grow perhaps at that rate, perhaps a little more, a little less, but we're not in normal times.

And so, I think that we're still kind of facing that macro challenge upfronts. It will be very interesting to see on the strategy between buyer and seller and how much gets committed, how much doesn't. Some of that could be a boon for CTV from a spot perspective. But more and more, CTV's being included into the bigger picture of the futures kind of upfront model.

So, I think that we remain bullish long term on CTV. I just think we got to kind of muscle through the next couple of quarters from a macro standpoint. And as it relates to walled gardens, I mean, I think we're seeing some benefits immediately when certain platforms that we had kind of not been able to access are now opening up, and we're able to pipe demand into it. So, those are all good guys.

I think generally speaking, the theme of the kind of demise of the walled garden is going to play itself out over time. So, I think it's, longer term, a good guy for us. But I think undoubtedly, folks are seeing that creating a lot of hurdles and effort for buyers to plug into your platform of premium video is a lot more challenging than trying to create a search walled garden, right? Search is kind of a monopoly with Google. It's really hard to run the table on premium video as a monopoly.

And I think more and more folks are seeing that in order to take full advantage of maximum monetization, you're going to have to open up and allow the whole ecosystem to be a part of it.

Shyam Patil -- Susquehanna International Group -- Analyst

Great. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Jason Kreyer with Craig-Hallum.

Jason Kreyer -- Craig-Hallum Capital Group -- Analyst

Great. Thank you, guys. Nice quarter. Michael, you talked a few different times about programmatic taking a more prominent role in the upfront.

Just wondering if you can talk more about that, why the role is expanding this year and where you see the benefits to Magnite.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Well, I think it's a combination of a couple of things, Jason. I think that publishers and buyers are getting more comfortable with programmatic in a high-value inventory like CTV, desire of buyers really wanting to use data overlaid buys from a targeting standpoint, and publishers being more acquiescent given the environment that we're in and how powerful those agency dollars have become overnight given the kind of macro dampening of spend. And lastly, I think the efficacy of it. Folks are seeing how well it can work.

You look at someone like a Disney company that's proclaimed that by 2025, that over 50% of all their inventory, you know, sold programmatically. You don't have to look much further than the success that Hulu has had doing that to understand that there's a really nice way you can thread the needle between direct sales -- the traditional direct sales and upfront to overlaying that with programmatic combined with that. 

Jason Kreyer -- Craig-Hallum Capital Group -- Analyst

And then just between ClearLine and OpenPath and I think we've seen other solutions hit the market in this kind of end-to-end type of offering, maybe what's the view of all these different solutions over the next several years? Like over the long term, how do you expect all this stuff to play out?

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

You know, think that it's easier to comment upon our product than it is others. It won't stop me from doing it, but it's easier for me to do it than others. You know, with ClearLine, there's a stated goal in mind, and that was, you know, our top publishers came to us and our top agency partners came to us and said, hey, if we're really ever going to unlock those dollars that are being sold directly and those dollars that are in the linear world that want to move into programmatic but can't stomach the take rates that are normally associated with the programmatic buy, can we just move them forward at a lower cost of service? And you know, as you know, ClearLine has been a product that we've been kind of dog-feeding ourselves over the past year with our managed service team. They've been using that as their kind of buying tool to process our direct sold business.

So, we have a lot of experience with it. It's been really successful. We have an agency that's up and going on it that's had a great success and has been singing its praises. So, I think it will accomplish that goal.

When I talked about market expansion, I meant it, and that is I don't believe that that is the best use of programmatic longer term, just translating a direct sale deal to workflow through the pipes. I think we all believe in a world where there's data overlaid on it. We believe in a world, in a biddable world whether it's invite-only auction or open auction, and I think those dollars, once they get acclimated into the programmatic ecosystem, will expand into that. And that presents a bigger opportunity for monetization to publishers and DSP participation because there's -- as we said, until we're blue in the face, we aren't building a DSP here.

What we're doing is building an on-ramp to allow those dollars that are direct sold to be able to get into the ecosystem, and then once in there, we see them flourishing and going in a more programmatic kind of auction-oriented world.

Jason Kreyer -- Craig-Hallum Capital Group -- Analyst

All right. Always appreciate the thoughts. Thank you, Michael.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Nick Zangler with Stephens.

Nick Zangler -- Stephens, Inc. -- Analyst

Yeah. Hey, guys. Just on ClearLine, just delving deeper here. How would you describe the difference between an agency buying CTV ad inventory directly as they do now from publishers versus buying on ClearLine? Obviously, I see the benefit of wanting to buy on ClearLine versus a DSP because you could avoid some of the higher take rates.

But just trying to better understand why they need to make that shift from buying directly from publishers and instead utilize ClearLine. Obviously, low take rates in, I think, both cases, but what's the real benefit of driving those -- that ad spend from direct into the ClearLine channel?

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Nick, it's a great question, and I think some of it just goes to the heart of -- and that going through every bells and whistle about it. But the real heart of it is this ability to overlay data to it, right? If you buy direct from a publisher, you're basically buying audience segments that have been defined by the publisher. And whether it's day parted or whatever the case might be, you know, it's just a very traditional way of doing it. And if you buy through ClearLine, you're starting to get those programmatic capabilities of data targeting audience segmentation that involves advertiser data and publisher data mixed in to create unique segments to purchase.

So, I think you're starting to get a level of data overlay and targeting that aren't available to you if you were just to place an ad insertion with an ad server.

Nick Zangler -- Stephens, Inc. -- Analyst

OK. So, that makes sense, but then -- so I understand those benefits. But then I guess the next question is then, how would you compare the ClearLine offering with potential targets targeting specific audiences, maybe providing some measurable feedback versus what the DSPs offer, right? Because now you're talking, if you're going to switch to ClearLine, obviously, you get a lower take rate. But just how would you compare what a DSP offers from a targeting measurable feedback opportunity versus what ClearLine offers?

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, another great question, and again, DSP is slightly different. But you know, listen, I would say that there's comparable value proposition when you're talking about just translating what is kind of a straight-up, you know, kind of audience buy that you would normally do direct to, you know, what ClearLine could do versus what a DSP could do at that level. But you know, where DSPs shine and excel is when it starts to come to, you know, finding audiences across a wider array of inventory and in a biddable format, right? And so, we're just really talking about -- training wheels probably isn't the right way, but it's the lowest form of programmatic, right? It's mostly workflow with some data versus what a DSP would provide, which is, you know, a robust, full-fledged offering across the spectrum of ways that you can purchase programmatically.

Nick Zangler -- Stephens, Inc. -- Analyst

Got it. And then for publishers, obviously, the draw is -- for ClearLine is just, hey, why not open myself up to yet another source of demand? And I'd assume there's limited hurdles in getting a publisher set up with ClearLine.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

That's exactly right. Yeah.

Nick Zangler -- Stephens, Inc. -- Analyst

Got it. Awesome. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Nick.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Matt Swanson with RBC Capital Markets.

Matt Swanson -- RBC Capital Markets -- Analyst

Yeah. Thanks for taking my questions. Congratulations on the quarter. I guess it'll be the first thing.

If we look back on to mid-February, to the strong results now, it might be hard to parse it out. But I mean, how much of it was the macro performing better than expected versus your company-specific execution? Obviously, it kind of takes a bit of both to deliver results like this.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. I mean, I think if you look across the, you know, all the folks that have printed this week and last week, I think you're certainly seeing a market share acceleration for Magnite. And listen, we benefited from a freshening ad spend environment like everyone. Like if you -- when we talked about, you know, the end of Q4 going into Q1 last year, the end of December and the beginning of January were quite dismal, painting a pretty bleak picture for 2023.

And then you start to see things pick up in February and in March and continuing. So, I think that we certainly benefited from that. But I think we punched above our weight, and if you look at other people's performance, ours excelled. So, kudos to the team for doing things that others aren't and taking share.

Matt Swanson -- RBC Capital Markets -- Analyst

And then both for the quarter but then also for the Q2 guide, adjusted EBITDA was really strong relative to some of the headwinds we had talked about with the platforms coming together. Is that just kind of a product of the top-line outperformance, and then obviously, it's the structure you have to be able drop that down to the bottom line? Or was there anything else like maybe more efficiencies than you expected from combining the platforms?

David Day -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. Matt, it's David. I'll take that. Yeah, that's exactly right.

It's top-line overperformance dropping through to the bottom line.

Matt Swanson -- RBC Capital Markets -- Analyst

All right. Appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Dan Day with B. Riley FBR.

Dan Day -- B. Riley Financial -- Analyst

Yeah. Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking the question. So, just at face value, you've rolled out ClearLine, PubMatic's Activate earlier this week.

It seems like they're going after similar markets. Maybe just compare and contrast those. You touched on it earlier in the Q&A, but I'll ask it a little more directly.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

I'm sorry, again, so the question was the difference between the products --

Dan Day -- B. Riley Financial -- Analyst

Yeah, compare and contrast.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, it's kind of hard to contrast to a product that isn't in the market yet, where ours has been up and operating for over a year. But that said, my understanding from the call and from reading about it is that they're quite excited about the opportunity in CTV like we are. But I would caution that no matter how great your buyer interface might be or the tools or the bells and whistles, you need to have access to that CTV supply. So, if you're talking about transitioning linear dollars that are used to buying broadcasts and used to buying high-quality inventory to the programmatic world, well, you're going to want to buy that same inventory.

And so, you better have access to that supply. And I think we feel really, really good about our differentiated position there, that we have access to that supply. It's sitting on the platform. Folks know us as those -- that player that has that supply in the platform.

And so, I think it's a very different conversation that we will have with buyers than anyone else in the space.

Dan Day -- B. Riley Financial -- Analyst

Thanks, Michael. Just one follow-up. You spent a lot on the convert buybacks this quarter. Just maybe think about that versus the common.

Do you have a specific goal of getting the convertible debt down to a certain level? What is it that might make you more inclined to turn that repurchases back to the common?

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. We think that, you know, given our overall debt quantum, it's just prudent to continue to reduce that overall level of debt. You know, we have a target to get our net leverage ratio well below 2x, and you know, we don't see significant debt as a future long-term component of our capital structure. And so, the converts, in particular, have a due date.

It's still a ways off in early 2006, but we think it's prudent to, you know, reduce that tranche of our debt that has the earliest due date. And so, our focus is there. It has also, you know, a significant discount to face value, so we were able to purchase that at a 19% discount. And so, you know, it's guaranteed accretion there, and so we took the share bet on that.

Dan Day -- B. Riley Financial -- Analyst

All right. Thanks. I'll turn it over.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Dan.

Operator

Thank you. That's next question comes from Shweta Khajuria with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead, Ms. Khajuria.

Your line is open.

Unknown speaker

Could you hear me? Sorry.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Now we can.

Unknown speaker

OK. Sorry about that. I'm asking a question for Shweta here. What's the difference between ClearLine and PubMatic's Activate?

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Hi. We had -- we hit that a couple of questions ago, and it's quite difficult to answer that question given the fact that they just announced it yesterday, and it's kind of not even in market yet, where ours has been up and going for over a year. So, you know, ultimately, we feel like in order to move those dollars over that are being transacted directly, particularly in CTV, the difference maker will be access to supply.

And we feel very good about our position there in terms of access to the premium CTV inventory that these buyers will want to purchase.

Unknown speaker

Thank you. Is there anything you can share on the ad demand trend quarter to date?

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Sorry, I didn't -- could you say that again? I couldn't quite understand that.

Unknown speaker

Is there anything you can share on ad demand trend year to -- quarter to date?

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Nothing that we haven't talked about in the script.

Unknown speaker

OK. Thanks.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. And this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to return the floor to Michael Barrett for any closing comments.

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

Thanks so much, Keith. Bear with me. Yep. So, I'd like to thank our great Magnite team for putting up another strong quarter and working hard behind the scenes to deliver.

We have a great opportunity ahead of us to continue to gain share, advance the ad-supported CTV market in its transition from linear, and accelerate our growth when the market begins to recover. We look to reward shareholders that support us along this journey. We look forward to speaking with many of you at our upcoming investor events. SIG will host our post-Q1 virtual investor meetings tomorrow.

We'll be attending the Needham Conference in New York on May 17th, the B. Riley Conference in Beverly Hills on May 25th, the Craig-Hallum Conference in Minneapolis on May 31st, and the Evercore Conference in New York also on May 31st. We will also be participating in meetings with SIG in Boston on June 5th and in Chicago with Stephens on June 6th. Have a great evening.

Thank you.

Operator

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Call participants:

Nick Kormeluk -- Head of Investor Relations

Michael Barrett -- Chief Executive Officer

David Day -- Chief Financial Officer

Laura Martin -- Needham and Company -- Analyst

Shyam Patil -- Susquehanna International Group -- Analyst

Jason Kreyer -- Craig-Hallum Capital Group -- Analyst

Nick Zangler -- Stephens, Inc. -- Analyst

Matt Swanson -- RBC Capital Markets -- Analyst

Dan Day -- B. Riley Financial -- Analyst

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