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Tuesday, April 28, 2026 at 10 a.m. ET

Call participants

  • Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer — Leon Topalian
  • Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer, and Executive Vice President — Jack Sullivan
  • Executive Vice President — [Unknown Executive; provided detailed operations and market commentary]
  • Executive Vice President, Commercial — Dan Needham
  • Vice President and General Manager [West Virginia sheet mill] — Johnny Jacobs
  • Executive [Sheet Group] — Noah Hanners

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Takeaways

  • EBITDA -- $1.5 billion, with a significant sequential increase attributed to all three operating segments.
  • Net earnings -- $743 million, or $3.23 per share, exceeding internal guidance by nearly $0.50 per share due to higher volumes and product mix improvements.
  • Record steel shipments -- 7 million tons, the highest quarterly shipment volume in company history, attributed to strong execution and new project contributions.
  • Steel mills backlog -- 4.7 million tons, up 20% from year-end and at the highest level since Q2 2021.
  • Steel products backlog -- Up 9% from year-end, with increases across all primary product groups.
  • Steel mills segment earnings -- $1.1 billion pretax, more than double the prior quarter, driven by increased volumes, higher average selling prices, and expanded metal spreads.
  • Steel products segment earnings -- $285 million pretax, up 24% sequentially, with volumes increasing 13% and a new shipment record in the Tubular group.
  • Raw materials segment earnings -- $45 million pretax, up from $24 million in the prior quarter, driven by higher DRI production after scheduled outages.
  • Pre-operating and start-up costs -- $108 million, with these costs expected to increase as the West Virginia sheet mill nears completion.
  • Capital expenditures -- $661 million for the quarter, with roughly 40% allocated to the West Virginia sheet mill; full-year CapEx guidance remains $2.5 billion.
  • Shareholder returns -- $254 million returned via dividends and share buybacks, equating to roughly 34% of quarterly net earnings.
  • Cash and liquidity -- Ended the quarter with $2.5 billion in cash and $3.2 billion in total liquidity; total debt as a percentage of capital at 24%.
  • CapEx trend -- Capital investment remains elevated but is moderating, while cash from operations is increasing and free cash flow improved materially this quarter.
  • Guidance for 2026 shipments -- Management expects shipments to grow by more than 5%, after achieving approximately 6% growth in 2025.
  • Q2 outlook -- Anticipates higher consolidated earnings, with stable volumes and rising metal margins in Steel Mills, higher volumes and stable pricing in Steel Products, and higher earnings in Raw Materials from DRI pricing.
  • Import share decline -- U.S. finished steel import share fell from over 22% in Q1 2025 to approximately 15% this quarter, following Section 232 tariff enforcement.
  • West Virginia sheet mill project -- Construction at 85% completion, with commissioning of operations ongoing throughout the year and commercial ramp-up to begin in early 2027; expected to reach ~50% utilization by the end of 2027.
  • Downstream project updates -- New bar micro mill in Lexington (North Carolina), Kingman melt shop (Arizona), and Crawfordsville galvanizing line (Indiana) all achieved EBITDA positive performance in March.
  • Towers and structures business expansion -- Indiana facility to be fully operational in Q3 2026; Utah facility expected to reach full production by mid-2027; Alabama facility expansion tracking to EBITDA positive run rates by end of summer.

Summary

Nucor (NUE +4.83%) reported its highest-ever quarterly steel shipments and a record steel mills backlog, supported by double-digit sequential increases in earnings across all operating segments. Management cited the effectiveness of trade policy, disciplined pricing strategy, targeted capital reinvestment, and execution of growth projects as critical drivers for ongoing performance improvement and forecast further gains in shipments, margins, and cash flow for the balance of the year.

  • Management reaffirmed its commitment to returning at least 40% of net earnings to shareholders annually, describing flexibility above this threshold based on performance and reinvestment needs.
  • Slow, steady pricing and disciplined order book management in the sheet segment were explicitly cited as helping stabilize domestic market share and mitigating speculative import risks.
  • The West Virginia sheet mill is positioned to supply advanced steel to Midwest and Northeast markets, areas previously identified as underweighted for Nucor.
  • Management highlighted a diverse portfolio enabling supply to high-growth sectors like data centers, border fence, infrastructure, and energy, with the ability to meet up to 95% of steel requirements for large data center projects.
  • Leadership changes were formally announced, including the promotion of Jack Sullivan to Chief Financial Officer and the retirement of Dan Needham, Executive Vice President of Commercial, in June.
  • Proactive energy cost management strategies were discussed, including hedging and investments in nuclear and fusion, to address anticipated long-term power demand from major customers such as data centers.
  • Trade policies, including Section 232 tariffs and enforcement actions, were credited with driving import shares to "the lowest I've seen in my entire career at Nucor."
  • Management stated, "The pent-up tsunami of earnings power that Nucor has invested is still yet to hit the balance sheet," anticipating significant contributions from recent $20 billion capital deployment as projects ramp up.

Industry glossary

  • Section 232 tariffs: U.S. trade measures imposing tariffs on certain steel imports to protect domestic producers.
  • Metal spread: The difference between the selling price of finished steel and the cost of raw materials.
  • Direct reduced iron (DRI): An iron source for steelmaking produced by reducing iron ore without melting.
  • HSF structural tubing: High-strength, fabricated steel tubes used in structural applications such as border fences and infrastructure.
  • Pre-operating and start-up costs: Expenses incurred prior to the commencement of commercial operations for new or expanded facilities.

Full Conference Call Transcript

Leon Topalian: Thanks, Chris. And as always, I want to begin by recognizing our 33,000 teammates across the company for their continued commitment to working safely. Safety is and will always remain our most important value. And at Nucor, that means more than the physical safety of our team. It encompasses the mental health of all of our teammates as well with May being mental health awareness month, it's a great time to reinforce that commitment. And as we move through 2026, we are firmly focused on making this the safest year in Nucor's history. Before turning to our financial performance, I'd like to briefly highlight a few leadership updates.

Effective March 1, Jack Sullivan was promoted to Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer and Executive Vice President. Since joining Nucor in 2022, Jack has demonstrated strong leadership, deep financial acumen and a clear understanding of Nucor's culture and how to create long-term value for our shareholders. Congratulations, Jack. We also announced that Dan Needham, our Executive Vice President of Commercial, will retire in June after 26 years with Nucor. I want to thank Dan for all the sacrifice and leadership during this time in which he and his family the very best in retirement. Turning to Nucor's first quarter financial results. We generated EBITDA of approximately $1.5 billion and earned $3.23 per share.

This is an excellent start to the year and a significant increase compared to the fourth quarter, driven by strong performance across all 3 of our operating segments. Consistent with our capital allocation framework, we returned $254 million to Nucor's shareholders through dividends and share buybacks during the quarter, while also reinvesting $661 million into the business. Roughly 40% of CapEx in the quarter went towards our new sheet mill in West Virginia. Operationally, our team has performed incredibly well during the quarter. One of the clearest indications is the record shipments our steel mills achieved for the quarter.

At 7 million tons, this was the highest quarterly shipment volume in Nucor's history, reflecting strong execution across our 26 steel mills and growing contributions from recently completed projects. Equally encouraging is the momentum evident in our backlogs. At the end of the first quarter, our steel mills backlog was up to 4.7 million tons, a 20% increase from year-end and the highest level we've seen since the second quarter of 2021. And Steel Products, our backlog grew 9% from year-end with increases across all major product groups.

I want to thank our operating and commercial teams for a strong start to 2026 and for putting Nucor in a position to deliver even better second quarter results for our customers and our shareholders. Turning to trade policy. The combination of Section 232, steel tariffs and trade remedy orders have been effective at reducing imports with that trend accelerating in the second half of '25 and continuing in the first quarter of 2026. Import share of the U.S. finished steel market declined from over 22% in the first quarter of 2025 to approximately 15% this quarter.

More recently, we were pleased to see the administration reaffirm the 50% 232 tariff on steel and implement important changes to how derivative steel products are treated specifically applying tariffs to the full value of those products. This action simplifies administration and enforcement while closing a key loophole that has allowed for undervaluation and circumvention. Taken together with existing trade remedies, these measures are working to ensure a more level playing field for domestic producers. We appreciate the administration's recognition of the importance of a healthy and competitive American steel industry.

That said, we remain vigilant and there is still work to be done as USMCA discussions continue, there is an opportunity to address ongoing challenges including steel subsidies provided by the Canadian government and the use of North American channels as back doors to our domestic markets, putting U.S. manufacturers at a competitive disadvantage. We also continue to advocate for policies that prioritize the use of American made steel in critical sectors such as energy, infrastructure, defense and shipbuilding. With that, I'll turn it over to Steve for an update on the growth initiatives and market outlook. Steve?

Unknown Executive: Thank you, Leon, and thank you all for joining us this morning. Our team continues to make great progress on our new sheet mill project in West Virginia, and we'll see key milestones achieved in 2026. We're entering the final phases of construction and will be sequencing commissioning of operations throughout the year, beginning with the pickle line in the second quarter. By the end of the year, we expect commissioning, inspecting and testing of all equipment across the mill to be complete. Following commissioning, our priority will be to operate safely and reliably as commercial shipments begin ramping up in early 2027. We will be increasing production and advancing product development throughout 2027 and '28.

And with capacity utilization and product offerings building steadily over time. Once fully ramped, Nucor West Virginia will supply some of the cleanest and most advanced sheet steel in North America with expanded capabilities to better service automotive and consumer durable markets. This positions Nucor to grow market share in the Midwest and Northeast, 2 large sheet consuming regions where Nucor is relatively underweighted today. In addition to West Virginia, we have several major capital projects under construction or ramping up, and we're making meaningful progress across all of them. Starting with projects under construction, in our Towers and Structures business, we're building 2 new utility towers facilities, 1 in Indiana and 1 in Utah.

In Indiana, we expect to be fully operational in the third quarter of this year. And in Utah, we expect to reach full production by mid-2027. We are also advancing the construction of the second galvanizing line at our Berkeley County, sheet steel mill in South Carolina. Once complete, this line will expand our ability to service automotive customers in the Southeast. Equipment commissioning is planned for the middle of the year, and we expect production to begin in the fall. In addition to projects under construction and commissioning, we have recently completed several growth projects that are advancing their strategic and commercial plans as expected.

In the bar group, our new micro mill in Lexington, North Carolina and our new melt shop in Kingman, Arizona, were both EBITDA positive in March. In the sheet group, our new galvanizing line at Crawfordsville, Indiana was also EBITDA positive in March, and we expect to commission the paint line later this year. Finally, our Alabama towers and Structures facility is expanding its customer base, improving production and on track to reach EBITDA positive run rates by the end of the summer. Before I turn the call over to Jack, let me share how we're thinking about the current market environment and Nucor's place in these markets.

Already the established industry leader, producing roughly 1 out of every 4 tons of steel in the United States and having unparalleled range of product offerings in our downstream businesses, Nucor continues to find ways to grow. After achieving approximately 6% growth of shipments in 2025, we expect shipments to grow by more than 5% in 2026. A confluence of factors are enabling this. First, consistent with our comments on Nucor's fourth quarter earnings call in January, overall demand remains relatively stable. There are pockets of strength, such as data centers, energy, border fence and infrastructure. and there are some markets that have remained softer for now, including consumer cyclicals, traditional office, heavy equipment and agriculture.

Taken as a whole, we expect domestic steel consumption to be stable with overall demand remaining flat to up 2% for 2026. Second, as Leon highlighted, enforcement of trade laws is stabilizing what might have happened in the past where patterns of flooding dumped imports shock the supply picture. And third, execution by our team with the investments we've made. Nucor is well positioned with the portfolio we've developed to service market segments exhibiting particular strength right now. A few examples include, we can supply 95% of the steel needed to build a data center. We're the leading manufacturer of HSF structural tubing that are the primary building materials for large sections of the border fence.

Our industry-leading pre-engineered metal buildings and insulated metal panels offering helped to accelerate our customers' speed to market, which is increasingly valued in today's landscape. And as a leading domestic producer of beams [indiscernible] bar. We are an essential material supplier, an enabler for the construction of pipelines, LNG terminals, bridges, manufacturing facilities, and power generation and transmission infrastructure. Nucor's national reach, coupled with our strength in raw materials, steelmaking and downstream products provides supply chain integration, improved reliability and operating efficiencies that no other North American producer can match. We have the right capabilities and team for this moment, and we're always looking ahead to ensure Nucor remains well positioned as markets evolve.

With that, I'll turn it over to Jack for a closer look at our first quarter financial results and our outlook for the second quarter. Jack?

Jack Sullivan: Thanks, Steve, and good morning, everyone. In the first quarter, Nucor generated net earnings of $743 million or $3.23 per share, exceeding the midpoint of our guidance range by nearly $0.50. The beat was largely due to higher volumes and higher margin product mix. After some weather-related shipping delays early in the quarter, the team delivered a very strong March with our sheet, plate and rebar groups all setting quarterly shipment records while structural steel shipments reached levels not seen since 2021. Turning to the segment level results for the first quarter, the steel mills segment generated $1.1 billion of pretax net earnings, more than double the prior quarter.

Volumes and average selling prices increased across all 4 product groups with sheet and structural being the largest drivers. Metal spreads also expanded across all formats. In Steel Products, we generated pretax earnings of $285 million, up 24% from the fourth quarter. Volumes increased 13% on stable pricing with our Tubular group setting a new quarterly shipment record. Strong demand related to the border fence was a significant contributor, and we expect that to continue for the next several years. We did see some margin compression due to higher steel input costs flowing through, but we expect this to ease as the year progresses and realized pricing catches up.

And in our raw materials segment, we generated pretax earnings of approximately $45 million compared to $24 million in the prior quarter, reflecting higher DRI production following 2 planned outages in the fall. Pre-operating and start-up costs totaled $108 million for the quarter. As a reminder, we expect these costs to trend higher as we work our way further into 2026 and toward the completion of our West Virginia sheet mill. Moving to the balance sheet. Our strong investment-grade credit profile is the foundation of our capital allocation framework. It allows us to execute our strategy of disciplined investment to grow our business while still providing meaningful cash returns to shareholders.

We ended the quarter with approximately $2.5 billion in cash and liquidity of $3.2 billion. Total debt as a percentage of capital sits at 24% and our credit ratings remain the strongest of any U.S.-based steel producer. Capital expenditures totaled $661 million for the quarter, and we remain on track with our $2.5 billion CapEx estimate for the full year. While this level of investment remains elevated as we finish several remaining growth projects, it is moderating compared to recent years. And as our CapEx is trending down, our cash from operations is moving up. That combination produced a meaningful increase in free cash flow for the quarter, and we expect this trend to continue.

We also returned over $250 million to shareholders in the form of dividends and share repurchases or roughly 34% of quarterly net earnings. Consistent with our long-term track record, we remain committed to returning at least 40% of net earnings to shareholders on an annual basis. Looking ahead, Nucor's financial strength, highly variable cost structure and business diversification, position the company to invest in growth, reward our shareholders and navigate through economic cycles. Turning to our second quarter outlook, we expect higher consolidated earnings with improvement across all 3 operating segments. In steel mills, we expect stable volumes and increasing metal margins. The margin improvement reflects higher realized pricing, partially offset by rising raw material costs.

Within the segment, we expect our sheet and plate businesses to be the largest contributors in the sequential increase. In Steel Products, we expect higher volumes and stable pricing. And some of our longer lead time products like fabricated rebar and joist and deck, margins have been impacted by rising substrate costs but are poised to improve as we work through backlogs and start to realize higher average selling prices. In raw materials, we expect higher earnings driven primarily by improved realized pricing for DRI. Taken as a whole, the earnings uplift across all of our operating segments will be partially offset by higher corporate and intercompany profit eliminations upon consolidation.

As we look further into 2026, we continue to expect that Nucor's earnings and cash flow will trend significantly higher than 2025 as we benefit from strong nonresidential construction and infrastructure demand and begin to see returns from the investments we've been making these past few years. With the hard work and dedication of the Nucor team, we are confident in our ability to create value for our customers and shareholders. And with that, we'd like to hear from you and answer any questions you may have. Operator, please open the line for questions.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Bill Peterson from JPMorgan.

William Peterson: Congratulations on a strong quarter. Congrats to the new management appointees, and thanks for the details thus far. On the West [indiscernible], which you provided some granularity, I was hoping to get a bit more color on the phasing of commissioning the strategy through year-end and maybe what to expect for the next few years? I guess, specifically, how long do you expect the commission phases it be complete? When do you expect the construction of the galv line to be complete? And I guess, how should we think about when you're going to start production as well as the customer qualifications? And then any sort of thoughts on utilization in the next few years as well? I appreciate that.

Leon Topalian: All right, Bill, thank you for the question. I'm going to kick it off and maybe just stay at a high level and then ask Steve Laxton or Noah to jump in with some more of the details around the commissioning of that mill. But look, I want to begin with the backdrop of our most important value, which is the safety, health and well-being of the entire new quarter 33,000 team member family. Today, we sit at 65 of our divisions are recordable free at this point.

It is an amazing accomplishment, and I want to thank each and every one of our teams who are delivering exceptional results, and you will see and continue to see those amazing results continue as we push into the quarter. More specifically, Bill. And as we think about West Virginia, and we touched on it in the opening remarks. I and our team could not be more excited about the capability set that, that mill will bring [indiscernible] for our customers, our shareholders, the value that's going to be generated and created in the largest sheet consuming region in the United States. Johnny Jacobs, who is our Vice President, GM and his team have done an incredible job.

And as you know, the work that sits behind the scenes during construction and start-up is tireless. It's thankless and it is just a really, really challenging environment. And those individuals have done an amazing job. So thank you to our entire West Virginia team. And again, I'll let Stephen, Noah maybe update some more on the details.

Unknown Executive: Yes. Happy to do that. Thanks for the question, Bill. And I'll just echo what Leon said about the team in West Virginia. They've had a remarkable safety record. I'll lead off with that. They've only had 1 reportable in all the years of that project. So outstanding safety culture and leadership in that team. And in terms of the specifics of your question, right now, Bill, we're about 85% of the way through construction. So we still have work to do on the construction side. Having said that, we're starting right now with some of the commissioning, and we'll be sequencing that throughout the year.

And so we'll start with the pick line, and then we'll bring up the cold mill and proceed through one of the galv lines, the automotive quality galv line will be the next thing we start up after that in commissioning. Ultimately, we'll get to commissioning the melt shop and in hot mill later in the year. By the end of this year, we'll be done with all the commissioning. We're on track to hit that milestone. And then we'll start moving up through production and ramp-up in '27.

Bill, what you'll see there is a very intentional and deliberate plan from that team and our entire sheet group, Noah and our team in the Sheet Group have really design an excellent plan to bring that mill up in a very constructive and coordinated and intentional way. And so by the time we get to the end of 2027, you asked about utilization rates and markets are going to dictate some of that. So I might hedge here just a little bit depend on market conditions somewhat that we'll be operating somewhere near that 50% of capacity by the end of next year. And so that team is poised.

We're going to make great progress over the next 1.5 years and into 2028, even with product development and continued penetration of the markets. Anything you want to add.

William Peterson: Great. And Steve, obviously, I've been working with you as a CFO and now we have Jack congrats on -- for both of you. Maybe the next question is for Jack is your new role how should investors think about any potential shifts in strategy relative to recent years? Or anything you would continue anything you would change or just any sort of insights on how you're considering your new role. .

Jack Sullivan: Yes. Thanks, Bill. I appreciate that. I step into this role with a lot of humility and gratitude to serve this great company and the 33,000 teammates to make it such a special place preceding me in the role are 4 highly accomplished Nucor CFOs. And really, my goal is just to carry on their long-standing tradition of doing 3 things really well. maintaining a healthy balance sheet, investing for the future and generating attractive returns for our shareholders. . And Steve Blackstone, who's sitting right here to my right, did a terrific job during his 4-year tenure, funding $15 billion in growth investments returning $9 billion to our shareholders and improving our credit profile along the way.

So that's a pretty impressive tra factor right there. And as the old thing goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. So Bill, no major shifts from that winning strategy. But what I would say is, I think I bring a fresh set of eyes, a strong understanding of this business and how we make money. And just a lot of excitement to accelerate what is already 1 of the most compelling stories in American manufacturing.

Operator: Our next question is from Alex Hacking from Citi.

Alexander Hacking: A couple of questions. I'll ask them together, if that's okay. Firstly, on the sheet side, the new slow and steady approach to price hikes in this cycle that we're seeing right now, could you maybe discuss the rationale a little bit there and how the customer feedback has been? I mean I hear only good things from customers, but I'm curious. And then secondly, on structurals, demand are very, very strong. imports are down, but don't seem to be down that much. Is there any particular subsegment that's driving structural to be so good.

Leon Topalian: Yes, I'll kick it off, Alex, thanks for the question. And again, keeping a little broader base. But the question you asked around sheet is an important one. And there's some very deliberate strategies there that I'll ask Noah to kind of walk us through because again, I think it's an important context as you overlay the backdrop of the current sheet market and demand today versus '21 and '22. And again, no can touch on that. You mentioned the structural side. And again, having spent 3 years at Nucor-Yamato our Nucor-Yamato team and our Berkeley beam mill continue to deliver excellent performance, both from a safety standpoint as well as from a just net earnings.

They are absolutely on fire. Their backlogs are at historic levels. Their customers, customers are busier than anything that I've seen in again, my 30-year career. So -- where is that going? I mean, it's obviously the non-res data centers, energy structural side and infrastructure around energy and chip plants and facilities, warehousing and in an area that we're going to continue to see expanded into the military complex in the years to come for Nucor. So I would tell you it's hitting on all cylinders. And while data centers are white hot, everyone's looking to participate if you pulled out all of the data center backlog from Nucor mean it only takes that down about 10%.

So the historic backlogs we're seeing are really, really spread out incredibly well across the enterprise that give -- give me great confidence that not only as we indicated, Q2 will be better, but I think 2026 is going to be a very strong year for Nucor -- or for Nucor. So with that, Noah, why don't you walk through a little bit of the sheet strategy and where we sit today.

Noah Hanners: Thanks for the question, Alex. We like slow and steady, and our customers are like and slow and steady, and let's take a little time to unpack that. The fundamentals supporting pricing right now are really strong, and I would say the rally we're in is probably the strongest kind of fundamentals we've seen for some time. Maybe to give you some context for how we see the rest of the '26 would step back to the last inflection point in the market, which was Q4 of last year. The low side of pricing in Q4 of last year. And to think about how our strategies work differently this year.

You recall that historically, what would have happened in that low point that trough in the market is we would have had opportunistic speculative buyers overloading their order books to try to time the market. And the result, if you think about traditional behavior in Q4 would have been that we would have overbooked on the mill side, lead times would have jumped significantly, prices would have jumped significantly and we would have really overshot basic market fundamentals. So then due to the spreads and the lead times we then inevitably create the surge of imports that arrived a few months later, similar to what we saw in the back half of '24. And that's what usually happens.

We've seen this time and time again in the sheet world. But this time, our trajectory and our behavior has been markedly importantly different in this cycle. We didn't chase the market down in Q4. We managed our order book to match what we saw as true underlying demand. And you saw this reflected in our steady, I would call it, modest consistent approach with pricing [indiscernible] consistent modest increases that were supported by underlying demand. And then this is one factor that we believe has helped to keep imports low. If you think back to '24 and you saw imports that were 9 million-ish tons -- this year, we're tracking $4 million or under.

So there's a 5 million-ton window of serviceable market for domestic suppliers. That's a huge impact to the positivity with which we see the market today. And then as importantly, the supply chain is really healthy right now. Inventory levels are modest, which just tells you we haven't seen the speculation that traditionally drives the volatility we would see in this market. A couple of other notes just on the strength of the current market while we have a pretty positive outlook. We have some key markets that are starting to show signs of positive outlook. Service center shipments are starting to move up. They're trending up.

We heard from HVAC customers recently that are really in the nonresidential construction space about a really strong second half there. So there's some tailwinds there in non-risk construction that yields some strength as well. And then you already heard mention of the Board defense, which is 1 million, 1.5 million tons over this year and next. So all that together, we believe, supports a strong operating environment through '26 and then into potentially next year.

Operator: Our next question comes from Timna Tanners from Wells Fargo.

Timna Tanners: I wanted to follow up, if I could, on the guidance comments. So the 5% year-over-year volume increase would seem to imply that this level that we saw in the first quarter year-over-year is not sustainable. So I'm just curious about what's driving that expectation? And I conclude just looking at the values that perhaps the bigger driver into Q2 could be price catching up with the market rather than volumes. Is that a fair conclusion? And if you could comment a little bit more about the moving parts, that would be great.

Leon Topalian: Yes, Tim, look, I think both are true. I think you're going to see volumes. And again, Nucor's operating rate is about 87% right now, utilization across the board, some groups being a little higher, some a little lower. So we have room. And again, from a contract standpoint, when you think about sheet market and the things Noah just walked through, we remain and have tons available in a very strong market. So we maintained some discipline at not booking all of those tons through contracts. So we have spot tons to offer. But again, we have -- we still have availability. And again, I think you're going to see that continue to move up the demand drivers.

Again, I'm not going to underplay this I've been in this business a long time. I've been in our long product businesses or [indiscernible] and -- from a loan perspective, our customers that I'm talking to today are busier than anything they've ever seen in their history. So when I tell you the demand driver drivers today are -- it's like '21, '22 or even beyond in some cases, depending on the product group. So it is an incredible market. So I do think you're going to see some improvements in volume, to your point, on the 5%. Yes, I think you're right.

I think it's much more likely that it pushes closer to double digits. -- again, a number to say it's going to be at or above 10%. But we -- I think it will strongly be above that 5% mark. So you're going to see that move up as well. So I think that answered the 2 questions you were pulling on. Did I miss anything there, Tim?

Timna Tanners: I think that's fair. I think I just -- it would be always helpful to get a little bit more color on how to think about some of the lags in pricing if you want, that would be great. And then I guess, the second question I was going to ask us to do a cost and Obviously, we all track scrap really closely, and that's a key one, but I just wondered if you could elaborate on some of the cost pressures that you alluded to earlier in the script, that would be great.

Leon Topalian: Yes. Steve, actually, why don't I take both, I mean the cost as well as the lag effect on -- which, again, I think playing through, but will play through very positively as we head into Q2. SP1773698727 Here, Tim. The lag effect, just to elaborate on that just a little bit on the prior question. You know this, but for the other listeners on the call. of our volume goes to our downstream business, and that gets in our financial results backed out through intercompany Elen.

So you see that impacting financial results for us, but also with over 70%, 80% of our business in sheet being contract and some other businesses that have a lag effect to the pricing as pricing trends move up, it does -- there is this catch-up effect that takes time. And so to the heart of the question you were asking just a minute ago you'll see some volume pickup. We had weather effect, particularly some of the downstream products. You'll see a little bit more volume pickup relative to pricing in our products grow.

But on the sheet side -- or excuse me, steel side, you're going to see it the other way around. -- where the pricing is catching up with catching up with the trends that you're seeing today in the marketplace that's sort of putting a little bit finer point on your comment about the lag effect. And with regards to cost, new course costs have been down year-over-year and quarter-over-quarter. I think that's important to note. And a lot of that has to do with utilization. Our utilization is up and -- but also supplies and services are down on a few other little details.

The 1 area that is up that might be on investors' mind is energy, but I think it's important to note that energy is around 10% of the cost in steelmaking and it probably has a far less pronounced impact than some investors might be thinking because of what some of our integrated competition has in terms of their costs. So our profile is simply different there. we hedge -- we typically forward by anywhere between 40% to 50% of the year's worth of natural gas heading into it. And most of our cost, 80% of our energy cost is related to power anyway.

So we don't have quite the same degree of exposure to near-term moves and costs on that front.

Operator: Our next question comes from Lawson Winder from Burfa Securities.

Lawson Winder: Could I ask about the capital return? So in recent years, Nucor has exceeded the 40% net income return. I mean, last year, it was like just under 70% -- is there room to push that higher in 2026? And how are you thinking about that? And then the corollary to that would be looking at the investment opportunity set, are you seeing any new opportunities in which to invest in the business that could compete for that free cash flow versus capital return?

Jack Sullivan: Lawson, it's Jack. Thanks for the question. In terms of share -- returns to shareholders, I think over the past 5 years, we've trended close to 60% of net earnings over that time. Starting out the first quarter a touch under that 40% target, and that was really the result of our earnings beat. So as we work our way further into the year, you should expect us to continue to close that gap and potentially exceed it. But when it comes to actual returns to shareholders, it's sort of that balancing act between staying true to our long-standing targets of roughly 40%, recently higher, but also being opportunistic about other areas to create value for shareholders.

And a lot of that is through reinvestment. So we'll continue to do just that, balance reinvestment opportunities as they come along, maintain a healthy balance sheet along the way and make good on our commitment to shareholders.

Lawson Winder: Okay. That's quite clear. And Jack, congratulations on the promotion. If I could ask follow-up questions related to joist and deck. You noted that pricing is expected to recover to help offset some of the higher substrate costs going forward in 2026. Can you just speak to some of the strength and weakness that you're seeing in the underlying market for that business?

Jack Sullivan: Yes. This is John. I'll take that question, Lawson. So really, the biggest market for the joist and deck business is the warehouse market. That's really in a steady state. It's certainly not what it was in '21 or '22, but leveled off to a good position. The data center market continues to be really strong for us. That's where we're seeing a lot of our price increasing. And our backlog pricing has benefited from that and will continue to over the course of the year. So we feel good about where we are in that part of the business.

Operator: The next question comes from Katja Jancic from BMO.

Katja Jancic: Earlier, you mentioned the recent change to Section 232 tariffs impacting derivative products. Have you since then seen an increase in inquiries from manufacturers that could potentially try to reduce the impact? Or do you expect that to happen?

Leon Topalian: Got you. I want to make sure I understand the question. With the 232, are we seeing our customers look to basically shore up their supply chains domestically? Is that.

Katja Jancic: Right or even the nearshoring because there's an ability for them to reduce the tariff from 25% to 10% if they use 100% U.S. steel. So I'm just wondering if you're seeing any inquiries.

Leon Topalian: Yes, we absolutely are. And again, I think what you've seen with Trump 2.0 and the trade things that he's implemented both from a NO and 232 is to create a long-term level fair playing field. And so again, we're seeing import levels trend down to 15%, which is certainly the lowest I've seen in my entire career at Nucor. So it's at a healthy and what I believe is a very sustainable level for the U.S. industry. But yes, to answer your question, and it's something that we will certainly support in the melted made in America provisions of any trade policy that gets enacted.

And so yes, our customers are certainly aware of that and looking to see how they can control their cost and output. And so yes, the domestic industry is healthy. It's strong. And again, Nucor's best days are still in front of us.

Katja Jancic: And maybe going back to the energy side. I understand that it's only 10%, but maybe looking more longer term, given that there is this expectation data centers are going to consume more energy and power costs are going to be moving higher. How are you thinking about your power costs longer term? Or are you thinking in any way to potentially look at longer-term contracts? Or how should we think about it?

Leon Topalian: Yes, Katja, Look, this is something we've talked about for a long, long time. In fact, very early days from when I became CEO in 2020, we've taken small positions, but financial positions in things like NuScale Power, which is the small module reactor technology because we need all the power that we can get, not just in solar and wind, which are good. We're suppliers to both of those industries, but it's simply not enough. We've got to embrace -- or we believe Nucor believes we've got to reembrace nuclear power in this country. It is the cleanest, most sustainable, always-on demand-driven power that we can bring to the grid. So you saw us invest in NuScale.

You saw us invest in Helion that we're incredibly excited about. But those investments also tied to being able to build those facilities, whether it's nuclear or vision and/or Fusion behind the meter so that we could generate our own supply, any excess then would go to the grid. So to your point, the demand profile and what the U.S. economy is not doing to keep up with supply has been an issue and something we've thought about for a very long period of time at Nucor. So we've made those positions. But Steve mentioned it earlier as well, part of the reason why we hedge our natural gas buys.

It's part of the reason we got into drilling wells on our own to begin with. It's the reason why we have a great relationship in every state that we're in that we have a steel mill in with the utilities so that we maintain long-term uninterruptible power contracts that are very, very efficient and cost effective. So do I expect in the years to come that will get a lot of pressure? Absolutely, 100%. As you know, the data centers aren't pushing 200, 300, 400 megawatts. Now they're pushing gigawatts. These facilities are massive, and they are massive power consumers. And so we've been thoughtful about it.

We continue to be thoughtful about it, and we will continue to invest in the things not because we want to make electrons, but we recognize that this nation has to reembrace nuclear. Today, China is building 46 new nuclear facilities. The U.S. is building 0. We've got to change that. And again, I think it's one of the clearest ways that we remain a superpower in cloud computing, AI and the things that are going to transform and revolutionize the U.S. economy.

Operator: Our next question comes from Carlos De Alba Morgan Stanley.

Carlos de Alba: So a couple of questions that are basically follow-ups from prior inquiries. One is on returning money to shareholders. As your CapEx starts to peak and you get the benefit of the new projects, would you have any preference between incremental buybacks or special dividends? Or are you agnostic to those 2 choices?

Unknown Executive: Yes. I think -- thanks for the question, Carlos. With respect to the best way to return cash to shareholders, traditionally, our preference has been through -- there have been very few instances over decades in which we've contemplated a special dividend. Not taking that entirely off the table. It's just our traditional practice has been through buybacks and sort of dollar cost averaging our way through the year.

Carlos de Alba: And then the other question is related to imports. The administration recently put out procedures for submissions by steel or aluminum producers that would be committed to new capacity in the U.S. This is related to the proclamation 10984 on imports of medium and heavy-duty vehicles and vehicle parts. How do you think this could impact potentially the announcement of new capacity in the U.S., steel capacity in the U.S.

Unknown Executive: Imports from 50% -- sorry, not imports, but the tires from 50% to 25%.

Leon Topalian: Look, Carlos, I think it's a fair question. And look, we've seen it. We've seen the interest from overseas. We've seen Nippon Steel come in and buy the U.S. steel assets, and that company no longer exists, right? It's now owned and operated by a Japanese company. You're seeing similar results in Louisiana with Hyundai building their sheet mill there. And when I think there are drivers to that, not just trade policy, but when you're the strongest economic situation in the world, people want to come here and build things. Certainly, there are some incentives for them to do that. But Ben, maybe just touch on some more specifics to Carlos' question.

Unknown Executive: Yes, Carlos, I appreciate the question. We're obviously aware of that to EO. We've studied as well. I would not add much more actually than Leon did, right? We continue to study that. I think that a lot of people are always going to tend to move towards the U.S. market as strong as it is. However, we're still a wait-and-see approach on that EO, along with many other things that are coming out right now.

Operator: Our next question is from Nick Kash from Goldman Sachs.

Nicklaus Cash: I just want to double-click on Timna's question in response from earlier. So, the guide from 4Q was about 5% volume growth, and now it sounds like Nucor is expecting more than 5% volume growth for the year. You sound pretty positive and constructive on that in the environment. So I'm just trying to -- any more color on what specifically has changed over the past, I guess, 2 to 3 months? Are you more positive on the end markets? And does that give you conviction in heading into the back half of the year?

Or are certain end markets seeing stronger-than-anticipated rate of change over the past 2 months, imports weaker than thought or what you're seeing potentially even across the backlog? Any additional color would be helpful.

Unknown Executive: Yes, Nick, look, I appreciate the question. And I think you're seeing a trifecta come to fruition. So I think it's all the above. So I'll unpack it in 3 categories. One, I think in our core businesses, we're seeing incredible demand, incredible growth. Our long products groups are from rebar, MBQ, our structural backlogs are beyond numbers that we've ever seen. Our customers' customers in the nonres, the structural fabricators are incredibly busy. There is a demand picture today that is incredibly robust that I think is a part of that driver. The second piece of that is our expand beyond businesses that are continuing to ramp up.

When we talk about insulated metal panels, our doors and door technologies, the towers and structures, greenfield plants, that we're building that, again, we are incredibly excited about what they're bringing to the table. And then the enclosures and data center spaces all are going to be contributing to a much healthier bottom line for Nucor and our shareholders, not just this quarter, not just in the coming quarters, but year-over-year, you're going to see it. And then the third and last and probably most important point, Nick, we spent nearly $20 billion since I took over the company as CEO. And our teams have done an incredible job of a, implementing that cash and projects safely.

They've worked tirelessly to bring those projects through construction, commissioning, start-up, you're beginning now to see some of those in that planting and that toiling and just nurturing come to harvest. So for, again, years of working towards and building out, you're now beginning to see the harvest starting to hit the balance sheet, and that's only going to continue. The pent-up tsunami of earnings power that Nucor has invested is still yet to hit the balance sheet. It is why I am so incredibly optimistic and looking at where our share price closed last night, the opening this morning, we're just getting warmed up.

And so Nucor's best days, weeks, months and years are still in front of it, and I couldn't be more optimistic. So those 3 factors combined bring to me what's going to generate the healthiest returns Nucor shareholders have ever experienced and ever seen and higher lows than Nucor has ever experienced by balancing out the M&A portfolio with countercyclical companies and product ranges that are in different end markets that, again, just stabilize the earnings portfolio through the balance sheet. So again, I couldn't be more optimistic. And that -- those 3 pieces really are why we feel very confident about 2026 and beyond.

Chris Jacobi: We currently have no further questions. So I'd like to hand back to Leon Topalian, Chair and CEO, for any closing remarks.

Leon Topalian: Well, thank you all for joining us on today's call. And before I conclude, I want to once again thank our team for delivering a strong start to our year and also for your unwavering commitment to becoming the world's safest steel company. I'd also like to thank our customers for the trust that you place in us each and every day. And finally, to our investors for your continued confidence in our long-term strategy. Thank you, and have a great day.

Operator: Thank you. This now concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.