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DATE
Friday, March 13, 2026 at 11 a.m. ET
CALL PARTICIPANTS
- President and Outgoing Chief Executive Officer — Randy Smallwood
- Incoming Chief Executive Officer — Haytham Hodaly
- Senior Vice President, Operations — Wesley Carson
- Chief Financial Officer — Vincent Lau
- Senior Vice President, Technical Services — Neil Burns
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TAKEAWAYS
- Total Production -- 690,000 gold equivalent ounces (GEOs) for the year, above the upper limit of annual production guidance.
- Fourth Quarter Production -- 205,000 GEOs, an 8% year-over-year increase primarily due to higher contributions from Salobo, Antamina, and new production from Aljustrel and Blackwater.
- Salobo Gold Production -- 89,000 ounces attributable in the fourth quarter, a 5% increase compared to the prior year, setting a new quarterly record.
- Antamina Silver Production -- 1.6 million ounces attributable in the fourth quarter, a 49% year-over-year increase on stronger grades and throughput.
- Constancia Output -- 700,000 ounces silver and 15,000 ounces gold attributable in the fourth quarter, each down approximately 25% and 18%, respectively, due to lower grades and throughput following Pampacancha pit depletion.
- Sales Volume -- over 190,000 GEOs sold in the fourth quarter, up 35% year over year, reflecting an inventory drawdown and increased production.
- Revenue -- approximately $865 million in the fourth quarter, up 127% year over year, with 59% from gold, 39% from silver, and 2% from other metals.
- Gross Margin -- $664 million in the fourth quarter, an increase of 168% over the prior year quarter.
- Net Earnings -- $558 million for the fourth quarter, a 533% year-over-year rise, and adjusted net earnings of $555 million, up 179% from last year.
- Operating Cash Flow -- $746 million for the fourth quarter, up 134% compared to the same period last year.
- Full-Year Revenue -- $2.3 billion for 2025, representing an 80% gain driven by higher prices and volumes.
- Full-Year Gross Margin -- $1.7 billion, an increase of 108% compared to 2024.
- Dividend Increase -- Quarterly dividend raised by 18% to $0.195 per share, following record 2025 dividends; over $2.6 billion returned to shareholders since inception.
- PBND Balance -- 155,000 GEOs as of year-end, representing 2.5 months of payable production; expected to rebuild in early 2026.
- Major Transaction -- Announced $4.3 billion Antamina silver stream with BHP, doubling exposure and expected to provide ~18% of total production by 2030.
- Funding Plan for Antamina -- $1.2 billion existing cash, $400 million of expected free cash flow, $300 million from monetization of non-core equity investments, $1.5 billion term loan, and $900 million revolving credit facility draw; anticipated net debt of $2.4 billion at closing.
- 2026 Production Guidance -- Forecast of 860,000 to 940,000 GEOs, including 400,000 to 430,000 ounces gold, 27 million to 29 million ounces silver, and 19,000 to 21,000 GEOs of other metals.
- Five-Year Growth Outlook -- Targeting 1.2 million GEOs by 2030, implying a 50% production increase over 5 years.
- Dividend Payout Policy -- Vincent Lau stated, "paying the $0.195 represents just over 10% of our operating cash flows," indicating capacity for further growth and resilience to lower metal prices.
- Leadership Transition -- Randy Smallwood moving to Chair of the Board effective March 31, Haytham Hodaly assuming Chief Executive Officer role.
- Portfolio Expansion -- Hemlo and Spring Valley gold streams added in 2025, contribution from new development projects and recently expanded Antamina and Hemlo streams highlighted as key drivers of growth.
SUMMARY
Wheaton Precious Metals Corp. (WPM 4.02%) announced the largest precious metals streaming transaction on record with BHP, substantially increasing its future silver production and portfolio diversification. Management outlined a forecasted return to a net cash position within approximately one year, even after funding $1.5 billion in capital commitments and maintaining elevated dividend payouts. The company expects cumulative operating cash flow to exceed $10 billion through 2028, providing capacity for further growth investments without issuing equity. Executives detailed a portfolio strategy targeting sector-leading production growth of 50% by 2030, underpinned by significant ramp-up from new and recently acquired streams. Management explicitly confirmed progressive capital allocation and balance sheet flexibility to support additional transactions ranging from $1.5 billion to $3 billion, with leverage levels managed conservatively.
- Wesley Carson projected 2026 production to be weighted with approximately 45% in the first half and 55% in the second half, reflecting mine sequencing and ramp-up of new assets.
- Antamina's production increase in 2026 is expected to be "significant" following the addition of the new BHP silver stream beginning in the second quarter.
- The board's newly declared dividend level was described as sustainable at materially lower gold prices, with management estimating that even a substantial drop in metal prices would leave the payout at only a mid-thirties percentage of operating cash flow.
- All new development projects included in the five-year growth profile are fully funded, permitted, and either under construction or scheduled to begin shortly, mitigating execution risk.
- Management stated there are contractual mechanisms, such as "delay ounces," to maintain returns if new mine deliveries are postponed.
- Net leverage at closing is targeted at 0.7x net debt-to-EBITDA, with stated comfort to raise leverage to 1.5x-2x for future opportunities, and debt instruments are entirely non-dilutive with low-cost and flexible repayment terms.
- Vincent Lau indicated that the depletion rate for Antamina, combining the Glencore and BHP streams, will be "roughly around $27 an ounce."
- PBND (produced but not delivered) balances are expected to rebuild to approximately three months, in line with historical trends as doré deliveries accelerate and new mine contributions ramp up.
- According to Neil Burns, the acquisition pipeline remains "extremely robust," with most opportunities in the $200 million to $300 million range and several larger deals under review.
- Management noted a shift back to primarily gold-focused deal flow, with new high-quality silver opportunities now harder to source.
INDUSTRY GLOSSARY
- GEO (Gold Equivalent Ounce): Consolidated measure expressing production and sales of various precious metals, converted to an equivalent amount of gold using prevailing market prices.
- Streaming Agreement: A contract in which a company makes an upfront payment to a miner in exchange for the right to purchase all or a portion of future metal production at a fixed, usually discounted, price.
- PBND (Produced But Not Delivered): Inventory of metal ounces that have been produced and are awaiting physical delivery to fulfill sales commitments or contracts.
- Delay Ounces: Contractual compensation delivered to the streaming company if production or initial deliveries from a mine are postponed, protecting returns against schedule slippage.
- Doré: Unrefined metal bars (commonly gold or silver) produced at a mine site, typically shipped directly to refiners for final processing.
Full Conference Call Transcript
Randy Smallwood: Thank you, Emma, and good morning, everyone. Thank you all for joining us today as we review Wheaton's fourth quarter and full year results of 2025. Our portfolio of high-quality, long-life assets delivered another outstanding year in 2025, surpassing our production targets and generating record revenue, earnings and operating cash flow. We've realized annual production of 690,000 gold equivalent ounces, exceeding the top end of our production guidance for the year. Our results were supported by strong contributions from cornerstone assets, including Salobo, Antamina and Peñasquito, alongside the continued ramp-up of Blackwater and Goose, further demonstrating the strength of our diversified streaming model.
Last month, we also announced our 2026 and long-term guidance, which outlines Wheaton's expected production growth of 50% to 1.2 million gold equivalent ounces by 2030, a remarkable milestone for our company and a first for the broader streaming and royalty industry. With the strength of our performance reinforced by our confidence in future cash flows, we are pleased to announce an 18% increase to our quarterly dividend to $0.195 per share, highlighting our commitment to returning value to shareholders. Many of you know, the coming weeks will also mark an important transition for Wheaton. After 15 years as Chief Executive Officer, I will be stepping into the role of Chair of the Board effective March 31.
I have tremendous confidence in the leadership of Haytham Hodaly, who will be assuming the role of CEO next month. Haytham has played an integral role in shaping Wheaton's strategy and growth over this past decade and has been instrumental in many of the key transactions that have helped build our portfolio into what it is today. Wheaton is entering its next chapter from a position of incredible strength with what we believe is an unrivaled portfolio of high-quality assets, a robust pipeline of development projects and a balance sheet that continues to provide the flexibility and capacity to pursue new opportunities.
With that, I would like to hand the call over to our next Chief Executive Officer, Haytham, to discuss our capital allocation strategy and some of the key developments across our portfolio. Haytham?
Haytham Hodaly: Thank you, Randy, and good morning, everyone. 2025 was another significant year for Wheaton as we continue to execute on our disciplined capital allocation strategy, focused on acquiring high-quality assets, structuring agreements with strong counterparties and maintaining attractive margins with long-term growth potential. During the year, we strengthened our portfolio with the addition of the Hemlo and Spring Valley gold streams, both of which represent high-quality assets operated by experienced mining partners in low-risk jurisdictions and further enhance the diversification of Wheaton's portfolio. Following year-end, we also announced the largest precious metal streaming transaction ever completed, expanding our exposure to the Antamina mine in partnership with BHP.
Although we covered the transaction details on the announcement conference call last month, I'll briefly reiterate some of the key strategic rationales. Quality silver production is becoming increasingly difficult to source, while demand has continued to rise for both critical and industrial uses and for silver's safe haven qualities in today's geopolitical setting. Expanding our stream on Antamina strengthens Wheaton's position as one of the largest silver producers global. Structurally, the stream features highly attractive terms, including a production percentage drop-down limited to 1/3 after 100 million silver ounces are received, no buyback clause and full exposure to commodity prices, consistent with our standard approach to streaming agreements.
Already a major contributor to Wheaton's portfolio, Antamina is expected to provide approximately 18% of our total production by 2030, following the doubling of our exposure, solidifying its position as our second largest asset. This is complemented by 6 additional assets expected to come online over the next 5 years, all of which have received their key permits are fully funded and are either nearing or already well into construction. Antamina sits on an extensive land package that hosts multiple large-scale skarn and porphyry targets with claims covering more than 1,000 square kilometers.
The map on the left provide some visual context for the scale of the land package relative to the size of the existing Antamina pit, all of which is covered by Wheaton's area of interest. Antamina has a large annual exploration program, and to date, drilling has continued to upgrade inferred resources and further define potential at depth below the current resource pit. Since Wheaton's first stream on Antamina back in 2015, over 95% of silver reserves have been replaced through resource conversion and exploration success, a testament to the asset's demonstrated ability to extend mine life through ongoing reserve growth.
Overall, this transaction adds meaningful and immediate production from one of the world's premier lowest-cost mining assets, and we strongly believe that Antamina is an asset that will be operating for decades to come. As I prepare to step into the role of Chief Executive Officer, I am confident in the strong foundation we have built, and I'm excited to support the next generation of mine builders in this unprecedented environment for gold and silver. Interest in stream financing remains strong across a wide range of high-quality opportunities, and we remain focused on delivering sustainable value for all stakeholders while upholding the principles that have made Wheaton a leader in the streaming industry.
I am deeply grateful to Randy for his guidance and mentorship and to the Board for their confidence in me, and I am truly honored to lead the company into its next phase of unmatched growth within the sector. With that, I will now hand the call over to Wes Carson to provide a more detailed review of our operating results and guidance.
Wesley Carson: Thanks, Haytham. Good morning, everyone. Overall production in the fourth quarter was 205,000 GEOs, an 8% year-over-year increase primarily driven by stronger production from Salobo and Antamina, coupled with the commencement of production at Aljustrel and Blackwater. In the fourth quarter of 2025, Salobo produced 89,000 ounces of attributable gold, representing a quarterly record and an increase of 5% compared to the prior year, driven by higher throughput and recoveries. As noted in their public disclosure, Vale continues to advance a series of growth-focused initiatives to enhance efficiency and support medium- to long-term production growth across the Salobo complex.
Antamina produced 1.6 million ounces of attributable silver in the fourth quarter of 2025, a 49% year-over-year increase primarily driven by significantly higher grades and modestly improved throughput and recoveries. As previously announced Antamina's related production in 2026 is expected to increase significantly, reflecting the addition of the new BHP stream commencing in the second quarter. Constancia produced 700,000 ounces of attributable silver and 15,000 ounces of attributable gold in Q4, a decrease of approximately 25% and 18%, respectively, relative to the prior year, primarily driven by significantly lower gold and silver grades and slightly lower throughput.
On February 20, 2026, Hudbay announced that the depletion of the Pampacancha pit was accelerated and completed in late December following an optimized mine plan in the fourth quarter of 2025. Due to strong outperformance across several assets during the year, Wheaton exceeded the upper limit of its annual production guidance in 2025, surpassing the midpoint of the guidance range by approximately 9%. Company anticipates that 2026 GEO production will continue to grow from levels achieved in 2025, driven by expected contributions from newly acquired operating streams at Antamina and Hemlo, along with anticipated start-up of several development projects, including Mineral Park, Fenix, Marmato and Platreef and stable production from Salobo and Peñasquito.
Attributable production is forecast to be consistent at Salobo in 2026 with slightly lower grades as per the mine plan, offset by increasing throughput, supported by staged upgrades and optimization across Salobo 1, 2 and 3. At Antamina, attributable production is expected to increase significantly due to the newly added stream. Overall, silver performance is expected to be in line with 2025 with higher throughput, offset by lower grades caused by a higher ratio of copper-only ore versus copper zinc ore mined in 2026. Attributable production at Peñasquito is anticipated to increase in 2026, driven by an increased stockpile process. Attributive production at Constancia is expected to decline in 2026, reflecting the depletion of the Pampacancha pit in late 2025.
Wheaton's estimated attributable production in 2026 is forecast to be 400,000 to 430,000 ounces of gold, 27 million to 29 million ounces of silver and 19,000 to 21,000 ounces GEOs of other metals, resulting in total production of approximately 860,000 to 940,000 GEOs. Annual production is expected to be weighted to the second half of the year with approximately 45% in the first half and 55% in the second half, driven by mine sequencing at Salobo and Peñasquito and the ramp-up of newly operating assets throughout 2026.
Production is currently forecast to grow at a sector-leading rate of approximately 50% over the next 5 years to over 1.2 million GEOs by 2030, driven by expected growth from operating assets, including Salobo and Blackwater, newly acquired operating assets, including BHP production, Antamina and Hemlo and development projects, including Mineral Park, Fenix, Platreef, Koné, Kurmuk, El Domo, Spring Valley, Copper World and Santo Domingo. From 2031 to 2035, attributable production is currently forecast to average approximately 1.2 million GEOs annually, supported by incremental contributions from additional predevelopment assets. That concludes the operations overview. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Vince.
Vincent Lau: Thank you. As outlined by Wes, production in the fourth quarter totaled 205,000 GEOs, representing a quarterly record and an 8% increase year-over-year. Sales volumes totaled over 190,000 GEOs, representing a 35% increase year-over-year, with the increase reflecting a drawdown of PBND coupled with higher production. Strong commodity prices, combined with our solid production base, resulted in record quarterly revenue of approximately $865 million and gross margin of $664 million, representing increases of 127% and 168%, respectively, compared to the same quarter or same period last year. Of this revenue, 59% was attributable to gold, 39% to silver and the remaining 2% split between palladium and cobalt.
The higher margin reflects the leverage provided by fixed per ounce production payments across the majority of Wheaton's operating streams, which accounted for 80% of revenue during the quarter. Notably, year-over-year margin growth exceeded the appreciation in gold prices over the same period, underscoring the effectiveness of Wheaton's business model in generating higher levered cash flows and margins in the quarter's rising precious metals price apartments. At December 31, 2025, the PBND balance totaled approximately 155,000 GEOs, representing roughly 2.5 months of payable production, which is on the lower end of our expected range of 2.5 to 3.5 months.
As is typical following a PBND drawdown, and further impacted by seasonal shipping factors early in the year, PBND balances are expected to rebuild in the first quarter of 2026. As in prior periods, PBND levels largely reflect normal timing differences between mine production and concentrate deliveries. These ounces expected to be delivered in the early part of 2026. In the fourth quarter, strong operating results and commodity prices drove record revenue, earnings and cash flow. Net earnings increased by 533% prior year to $558 million, while adjusted net earnings increased by 179% to $555 million. Operating cash flow increased to $746 million, a 134% increase in the fourth quarter of 2024.
For the full year of 2025, revenue totaled approximately $2.3 billion, representing an 80% increase compared to 2024, driven by higher realized commodity prices together with strong production and sales volumes. Approximately 99% of revenue was derived from precious metals, including 62% from gold and 36% from silver. Gross margin for the year totaled approximately $1.7 billion, an increase over the prior year of 108%, reflecting the strong operating performance across our portfolio, coupled with higher commodity prices. Wheaton continued to generate strong cash flow in the fourth quarter with operating cash flow totaling approximately $746 million.
During the quarter, the company made total upfront cash payments of approximately $646 million, including the $300 million upfront payment for the Hemlo gold stream, which closed during the quarter and began contributing production immediately. In addition, the company paid dividends totaling approximately $75 million to shareholders during the quarter. As Randy mentioned earlier, the Board has declared its first quarterly dividend of 2026 at $0.195 per share, representing an 18% increase compared to the prior year. After declaring record levels of dividends in 2025, Wheaton has now returned $2.6 billion in dividends to shareholders since inception, representing over 70% of the total equity ever raised by the company. We remain committed to a progressive dividend policy.
And since introducing this policy 3 years ago, we have increased the dividend every year and at an increasing rate, reflecting the growing cash flow profile of the company. Overall, cash and cash equivalents amounted to approximately $1.2 billion at December 31, 2025. Subsequent to the quarter, we announced the Antamina silver stream with BHP for an upfront payment of $4.3 billion, which we expect to fund through a combination of existing liquidity and new financing on or around April 1, 2026.
Funding sources are expected to include the $1.2 billion of cash on hand at year-end, approximately $400 million of incremental free cash flows currently expected to be generated prior to closing, and $300 million from the recently completed monetization of non-core equity investments. The remaining balance is expected to be funded through a $1.5 billion term loan and an anticipated $900 million draw on Wheaton's existing undrawn $2 billion revolving credit facility. The term loan and the revolving credit facility provides flexible non-dilutive financing that may be repaid at any time without penalty.
At closing, we currently expect net debt of approximately $2.4 billion, which represents a modest level of leverage for a company of our size and cash flow generation profile. With the strength of our production guidance outlined by Wes, we currently forecast more than $10 billion in operating cash flow to be generated through the end of 2028 at current spot prices. As such, we currently expect to return to a net cash position in approximately 1 year while maintaining strong capacity to fund existing commitments and potential future stream acquisitions.
Given our strong cash flow profile, Wheaton believes it is prudent to utilize a portion of our debt capacity to finance a transaction of this scale, allowing our shareholders to maintain maximum exposure to precious metals price upside while preserving balance sheet flexibility. That concludes the financial summary. And with that, I turn the call back over to Randy.
Randy Smallwood: Thank you, Vincent. Clearly, 2025 was another very strong year for Wheaton that underscores the benefits of consistent execution of our strategy. As we reflect on this impressive year, there are several key highlights that stand out. First, our portfolio continued to deliver strong operating performance with production exceeding our annual guidance and generating record revenue, earnings and operating cash flow. Second, we continue to strengthen the quality and diversification of our portfolio through disciplined capital allocation, including the addition of the Hemlo and Spring Valley gold streams, further expanding our exposure into high-quality assets in low-risk jurisdictions.
Third, following year-end, we announced the largest precious metal streaming transaction ever completed, doubling our expected production from our best-performing asset, Antamina, in partnership with the largest mining company in the world, BHP. This transaction adds meaningful near-term production while further enhancing Wheaton's long-term growth profile. Fourth, our development pipeline continues to advance with assets such as Blackwater and Goose ramping up alongside several other projects expected to contribute to Wheaton's sector-leading organic growth profile over the coming years to record levels of 1.2 million ounces per year.
And finally, with over $3 billion in annual cash flows expected at current commodity prices, we maintain ample capacity to support a meaningful 18% increase to our annual dividend, while continuing to pursue accretive opportunities. I would simply summarize this Wheaton release and these Wheaton results as record everything. With that, I would like to open up the call for questions. Operator?
Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Fahad Tariq from Jefferies.
Fahad Tariq: Can you just remind us over the next year or 2 years, what the funding commitments are, and whether that's been factored into the comment that Wheaton can get back to a net cash position within 1 year?
Vincent Lau: Fahad, thanks for the question. We have about $1.5 billion of capital commitments over the next couple of years. And yes, the estimate that we would come back to a net cash position does include that and also paying our dividends at the current new level. So we have a very robust cash flow profile where we can pay this all back in about a year.
Fahad Tariq: Okay, very clear. And then just on corporate development, do you see additional opportunities in the portfolio to go back to assets that you're already familiar with and maybe increase the exposure the way you did with Antamina or...
Neil Burns: We always look for that opportunity. And as you know, majority of our deals that have been done in the last few years have been done with existing partners. So we're always in communication with our existing partners, to understand what their funding needs, and of course, suggest further streaming from their high-quality operations.
Operator: [indiscernible]
Daniel Major: Can you hear me, okay?
Randy Smallwood: Yes.
Daniel Major: Great. And firstly, Randy, good luck in the future, and I know we'll still see you, but congrats on the move. Yes, three questions from my side. Yes, first thing on Antamina, just back to just a few considerations of the transaction. I mean, I guess BHP's pitch on the selling the stream was a little bit along the lines of it's a mature asset, which is a known entity, and therefore, they're happy to part with the potential upside. Where do you see the key source of upside to this asset? Is it purely a mine life extension? Or are there other characteristics that you see upside?
Haytham Hodaly: Thank you for the question, Daniel. It's Haytham. I'll answer the question. First of all, I think the way BHP pressed it was they wanted to unlock silver in a time of strong commodity prices. So it's not that they think this is by any means maturing and coming up to its twilight here. This is an asset that's going to go for at least the next 4 to 6 decades based on the replenishment of the reserves that we've seen over the last 10 years as a participant with an existing stream with Glencore. We've had access to a lot of the information. There are certain limitations on tailings capacity and stuff in these expansions.
There's various different methodologies they're looking at to continue to expand it. But from a resource and reserve perspective, this asset will be a generational asset.
Daniel Major: Okay. And then the second question, just touching on the balance sheet and funding commitments, et cetera. I mean, as you point out, the level of leverage, even at $2.4 billion of net debt is low. How do you see this in your ability to compete in the market for new transactions over the next 12 months? Is there a limit to the kind of size of deal you would be comfortable in taking on whilst you're in this period of deleveraging? Or are you open for the business just the same?
Haytham Hodaly: Thanks for the question. I'll tell you, we're incredibly comfortable with where we are from a cash and debt position right now. We're generating over $3 billion or roughly, call it's, $3 billion in free cash flow over the next 12 months is our expectation. And looking at our existing revolver and cash that we're generating, we would easily be able to fund a transaction in the $1.5 billion to $3 billion range, if we need it in the next little while. Outside of that, if we see any $4.3 billion Antamina transactions, yes, we'll probably have to look for other sources of funding.
But at this point in time, if you look over our last 7, 8 years, and you look not just at us, but our peers as well, typically, funding in this area has been $1 billion on average a year. So Antamina was definitely, I would say, something that was -- is not an annual repetition. This is something that we'll continue to move forward with looking for larger transactions, but we're more than comfortable with our existing balance sheet and our cash flows going forward to fund any transactions we see in front of us.
Randy Smallwood: Daniel, if I'd add and Randy here, we've been talking about the concept of multibillion-dollar streams now for a while, and there will be multibillion-dollar streams coming down the pipe. But most of those are going to wind up being construction funding of big copper projects. And so the advantage of those, of course, is that you drip feed that over a period of time during the construction process, which, of course, the advantage being you don't have anywhere near the permitting risk if you're buying royalties and such, where you typically wind up having to pay upfront. And so -- but that drip feed of construction also gives us plenty of capacity.
And so we still see plenty of capacity to enter into a multibillion-dollar streams. And ideally, if they are on operating assets like Antamina, we will find a way. We have never been limited from a capital perspective. And I would actually simply describe our current balance sheet is efficient right now. It doesn't have any lazy cash sitting there looking for a place. We are in the precious metals business. We're not in the cash storage business. So I personally think that this is the perfect place for a balance sheet to be in our business because we are fully exposed to the metal as our shareholders are investing into us for. So pretty comfortable with where we are.
Vincent Lau: I would also add, it's Vince here. If you step back, the leverage that we have is very modest. It's a 0.7x net debt-to-EBITDA level. And you have to remember, as a streaming company, our EBITDA is our cash flow. So it can't be compared to another producer, for example, being able to delever in a year is an extremely powerful cash flow profile that we have.
Daniel Major: Very clear. And just one more, if I could, just a couple of modeling questions just around the distribution of cash flows through the year, 2 points. You've given the schedule for capital commitments on streams about $590 million during the year, distribution through the year on that? And also, can you remind me when you would expect to make the tax payment? I think it was $115 million during the year.
Vincent Lau: Sure. The tax payment is expected to be in the second quarter, June 30 is the timing. In terms of the upfront payments, for Q1, I would say, excluding the Antamina stream, probably in the $250 million range, plus or minus, depending on some timing. And then for the entirety of 2026, again, excluding Antamina, would be about $500 million. And then 2027 is about $500 million to $600 million at this point. Obviously, these things are really dependent on construction schedules. But again, we have plenty of capacity to fund all that.
Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Lawson Winder from Bank of America Securities.
Lawson Winder: Can I ask about the dividend and just thinking about how the dividend relates to gold price. When you were considering today's updated level, how is the downside in gold price factored in? Or put another way, to what gold price on the downside is the dividend level sustainable?
Vincent Lau: Lawson, our current dividend policy, paying the $0.195 represents just over 10% of our operating cash flows. We have to see a materially lower gold price and silver price before we're constrained at all. I think we ran some math, even if we went down to $3,000 gold, the amount we're paying out is still only kind of in the mid-30s in terms of percentage of operating cash flow. So very sustainable in terms of what we're paying. Our goal is to have a progressive dividend where we deliver this growth back to our shareholders in a consistent manner over time. We're trying to avoid these big hockey stick jumps and deliver it in a more gradual manner.
So we have a lot of room to grow our dividend and a lot of room to maneuver if there were any downside in the price.
Haytham Hodaly: Lawson, it's Haytham here. A couple of years ago, we started this progressive dividend. We've been paying dividend out that was previously linked to cash flows. We increased it by 3.5%, 2 years ago. Last year was by 6.75% roughly, this year is about 18%. We've got something that should give you a lot of comfort. And what I would say, regardless of what the commodity price does, even if the commodity price has, we still have a lot of comfort. We have 50% growth in cash flows over the next 5 years. So even if commodity prices went down by 50%, we still have a 50% increase in production.
So we don't see that being any kind of concern for us whatsoever. In fact, I think over time, as we continue to generate more cash flows, we would expect to continue to see that dividend increase as well.
Lawson Winder: Yes, that's very helpful. And then just related to that and related to the earlier question on size of deal. So I mean, Haytham, you mentioned like $1 billion to $1.5 billion would be sustainable. But I mean, even at those levels, we're looking at net-net leverages of below 2x. Like -- theoretically, like what level of net leverage would you guys be comfortable going to in order to get another big deal done?
Vincent Lau: Thanks, Lawson. We don't ever want to introduce credit risk into our company. What we provide is safe, high-quality exposure to precious metals. So 1.5 to 2x leverage is kind of what we are comfortable with at this point. Even with that, we're talking about an addition of almost $2 billion of capacity from a debt perspective. And we currently just don't see a deal where all that needs to be paid immediately. A lot of this is, as Randy said, drip fed over a long period of time. And again, we're replenishing our coffers rapidly. We're generating $10 billion of cash flow over the next 3 years. So plenty of capacity to continue to pursue growth.
Randy Smallwood: And I'd just add, Lawson, we would never let that balance sheet limit us in terms of a new opportunity. We never have. I mean, I pride ourselves on not issuing new equity, but there's always that if you had the right opportunity to go down that path. But we just don't see the need for that, and we don't want to dilute our existing shareholders. They are the ones that we work for. And so our approach is to is to maximize the leverage side if we have to. And then there's other sources. So it would never limit our ability to grow.
It's just a matter of our preference is to use debt because we find it's the best way to deliver premium returns to our shareholders. And it's worked very well for us. The last time we issued any significant [ DRIP ] type of equity financing was I think a decade ago, 10 years ago, and I have very little interest in doing that again. And I know that the use of debt effectively over the last 10 years has dramatically improved the returns for our existing shareholders. And so we're staying with that plan. But we've always got other options in the background. We've never been limited.
The limiting factor for Wheaton has always been quality assets, finding quality assets to invest into.
Vincent Lau: And just as a reminder, the interest rate we're paying on that debt is less than 5% or around 5%, very efficient cost of capital. And the only covenant we have is a test of 0.6 net debt to total cap. So very, very, very flexible in terms of ability to manage that.
Lawson Winder: All right. That's all extremely helpful commentary guys. I appreciate it. If I could ask one follow-up. There are several new mines that you guys have streams on that are starting up and will be ramping up this year or early next year. So there's Fenix, Kurmuk, Koné are 3 that I'm thinking of in particular, and there's more in '27. Just with these new mines, are there any delivery delay considerations that we should be maybe thinking about factoring in, in terms of like when those mines and the operators will realize production versus when Wheaton will ultimately take delivery?
Haytham Hodaly: I'll answer that question. Obviously, when we structure our transactions, we structure them to ensure that if there are any delays, we are kept hold from an IRR perspective. we have mechanisms in place that are called the delay ounces that compensate us for the time value of money in case any of that happens. Now looking at the half a dozen different projects that are in the pipeline. I'd say the majority of them are pretty close to their time lines, we maybe a few months off. One of them is actually a few months well ahead of schedule, and it's one of the bigger contributors. So we're excited about the profile here going forward.
Keep in mind, every single one of these projects that are in our 5-year profile that give us that 50% growth are funded, are permitted and half of them are already in construction and the other half are starting here shortly. So we're pretty excited about those.
Randy Smallwood: Lawson, I think the other part of your question there had to do with the physical deliveries. These are all assets that produce doré. Doré moves very quickly. So they're not producing concentrates. If we have a mine, a copper mine when it starts up, you're right, there's a pipeline of getting that production to the smelter and you have to get that when a mine starts up, that takes a while to get going. But all the mines that we have in the next while are actually producing doré, which finds itself to a refinery very fast. Nobody likes having that sitting around. So we shouldn't see any issues there.
It will -- they'll all push us as we always give guidance, 2 to 3 months of produced but not yet delivered. These assets will all be to the lesser side. We've always found the doré mines are much tighter.
Operator: Our next question comes from Tanya Jakusconek from Deutsche Bank (sic) [ Scotiabank ].
Tanya Jakusconek: I think I'm at Scotiabank. Okay. Can I just put in just a congratulations for Randy and Haytham on your new positions going forward. Let me just -- okay, I'll start with a very simple modeling question. I just want to make sure -- I noticed that the depreciation has gone up quite a lot. I just want to make sure that now with the new Antamina coming in as well, should we be thinking about like $90 million to $100 million a quarter or thereabouts, would that be reasonable?
Vincent Lau: Tanya, the depletion really changes quarter-to-quarter depending on our asset mix in terms of what's delivering. I would say there wasn't a materially different change in our depletion rates by asset from last year. The depletion rate for Antamina going forward will be combined between the legacy Glencore stream with the new BHP stream, that would be roughly around $27 an ounce.
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay. Okay. And then just making sure I understand correctly as we look through the year, you've got the rebuilding of the PBND you mentioned going through Q1 or the first half of the year. Did I hear that correctly?
Vincent Lau: That's right. We -- Salobo kind of delivered a big shipment at the end of 2025. That was a little bit unexpected. So we would expect a bit of clawback in Q1. We're sitting at 2.5 months right now. I think we're closer to 3 months by the end of Q1.
Randy Smallwood: It's pretty typical, Tanya. Fourth quarter is always a squeeze on that as companies try to elevate year-end performance, right? And so it's -- there's two things that we've learned. One that it squeezes down in the first -- or in the fourth quarter, and two is that it bumps back up again in the first quarter. So there will be an increase in that.
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay. So if we think about it just for the year, we should think about it somewhere in that 2.5 to 3 months, would that be fair?
Randy Smallwood: Yes. I think it's 3 months. As I mentioned in one of the earlier questions, the more doré production we have, the tighter that gets, the more concentrate production goes the other way, right? So the concentrates that we get out of Antamina will push us towards the 3-month side. I think our general guidance has been typically 3 months. The other comment and just to reinforce again that earlier question is when we have new projects starting on it does take a little bit longer to get the processes and the flow streams -- the pipeline is full, so to speak. And so that will probably push us. So I would say 3 months is a good target.
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay. That's all my modeling questions. Maybe just coming back to the transaction market. Obviously, a great deal with BHP. And so maybe Randy or Haytham, can you talk about now that you have a relationship with the BHP, are there opportunities to do other deals with them on some of their portfolio? The Koné district, obviously, is one that needs to be built, and that's a lot of capital there, but maybe also within their operating portfolio.
Haytham Hodaly: I would hope there's opportunities to do deals with all of our existing partners. And BHP is just our newest partner. But you're right, there's a lot of large-scale porphyry projects that are going to be in production probably -- or in construction, pardon me, probably in the next 3 to 5 years. And we are in constant contact with all of our existing partners, including BHP about trying to figure out ways to continue to help them fund those capital projects.
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay. And excluding these big deals that are over $1 billion, and there are a few out there, what else would you be seeing in sort of the smaller category? Have those increased at all? Or has everything shifted to these bigger deals?
Neil Burns: Maybe I'll take that one, Tanya, it's Neil here. As Randy mentioned earlier, our opportunities pipeline is extremely robust, continuing off the strength that we saw in 2025. In fact, keeping the lawyers very busy right now signing NDAs with lots of interesting opportunities that came out of BMO and PDAC. Size-wise, we are a majority in the $200 million to $300 million range. But there are a few that are in the $0.5 billion to $1 billion range as well.
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay. And in our last conference call, I think, Randy had mentioned there was a big shift to silver. You're seeing a lot more silver. Has that shifted at all? Or is it still silver or is gold back in the game?
Haytham Hodaly: I think a lot more silver was probably in reference to Antamina, which is now, Tanya, I think I would say the majority of new opportunities we're looking at is primarily gold. It's one of the reasons I like silver, it's really tough to find.
Tanya Jakusconek: Congratulations on the deal.
Operator: Our last question comes from Richard Hatch from Berenberg.
Richard Hatch: Congrats team on record everything. I've got a few questions. First one is just on where we are in the cycle. I completely agree that we're going to see more of these large porphyry copper deposits funded and built. But kind of strikes me that we're probably a couple of years away from really starting to see those come to market and get funded. Is that the right -- are you in the same thinking as me? Or are you seeing it differently? That's the first one.
Neil Burns: Sure. That's true for sure. There are a number of big projects out there, and those do take a while to get permitted, obviously, and have massive CapEx. So I agree with you there that they will take a few years to come about.
Haytham Hodaly: Richard, I'll point back to a comment that Randy made earlier is a lot of those of that funding is construction funding, and it's stripped during the overall construction profile. So I suspect over the next 3 years, as Vincent pointed out, we're going to be generating close to $10 billion a year -- oh, sorry, $10 billion in total in free cash flow. We're going to have a lot of excess cash, and we're going to be looking to deploy that cash into those type of projects.
Richard Hatch: Yes, makes sense. Good stuff, please do. And then just a few final questions. Just on the Koné payments. When should we be thinking about that last $156 million going out the door?
Vincent Lau: The Koné payments will probably be sometime in 2026. We only have one left of $156 million, so either Q1 or Q2.
Richard Hatch: Okay. And the -- I was curious about the Santa Domingo $30 million refund. What's going on there? Is that -- just perhaps could you just give us what's the deal with that?
Haytham Hodaly: So Santa Domingo, obviously, we put up some capital when we first entered into that transaction. And because the project hasn't come online, we've given our partner an opportunity to repay that $30 million and defer making any additional interest payments from this point forward. That's what it was.
Richard Hatch: Okay. And then my last two. Firstly, just to clarify, you said that Antamina will be slightly lower year-on-year. Is that the right way to think about it?
Wesley Carson: Yes, that's correct.
Richard Hatch: Okay. And the last one is just on your accounts receivable, they've kind of picked up to over $40 million. And I'm just kind of -- is that going to come down -- is that expected to come down anytime soon? Or should we keep it at that level? I'm just sort of thinking about working cap and just how I should be thinking about it?
Vincent Lau: Yes, we probably expect that to come down a bit. It's a mark-to-market thing on our concentrate sales, so a pretty anomalous item, but it should normalize over time.
Richard Hatch: Congrats on a great quarter and keep going.
Randy Smallwood: Thanks, Richard. And thank you, everyone who joined us today. Today marks my final quarterly conference call as a CEO, and I'm deeply grateful to close this chapter on such a high note, capping our best year on record with the largest transaction in the history of streaming our royalties. As I transition into the role of Chair of the Board, I could not be prouder of the company we have built together, our people, our culture and the value that we have created for all of our stakeholders.
Wheaton is entering its next phase of growth from a position of exceptional strength, and I have complete confidence in Haytham's leadership and the broader management team as they continue to build on this strong momentum. I would like to thank our employees, our mining partners, our shareholders and the communities where we operate for their unwavering support over the years. serving our employees, our shareholders and, in fact, all of our stakeholders as Wheaton's Chief Executive Officer has been the greatest privilege of my professional career. As I sign off, I do so with great pride, gratitude and immense optimism, if not excitement for Wheaton's future, and I thank all of you for joining me on this incredible journey.
Thank you.
Operator: This concludes this conference call for today. Thank you for participating. Please disconnect your lines.